Roland RD 2000 vs Keyscape Battle 2024

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3 ай бұрын

In this video I'm comparing the modeled German Concert sound from Roland RD 2000 with the sampled Yamaha C7 from Keyscape.
Both tracks are at the same loudness (-14 LUFS).
Access 10 presets I made for RD 2000 here:
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#rd2000
#vpiano
#keyscape
#spectrasonics

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@awakenwithoutcoffee 2 ай бұрын

first off: amazing playing here. Secondly: the RD 2000 sounded great but once the Keyscape dropped it was an instant "vibe" so my vote goes to Keyscape.

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

I like that Keyscape has a lot more parameters to tweak. Also the tone is warmer and less metalic. Probably because the plugin uses a tape machine. But for me no plugin can beat the lower register from the V-Piano (German Concert in this case).

@jesusescudero6502 Күн бұрын

No tienes ni idea. Como vas a ni siquiera comparar un programa con el teclaldo físico de Roland 2000.roland suena mucho mejor obviamente

3 күн бұрын

After all we will merely give our opinions on the sound. But both listening to this gorgeous playing and reading the comments are so much fun. So much learning in both. 😊

@markmaw8 10 күн бұрын

Wow your playing Is absolutely beautiful!

@johnalafis1004 3 ай бұрын

German concert was a game changer for RD-2000

@rolandv-piano 3 ай бұрын

Exactly, especially the lower register sounds much better than any sample library.

@lawrencelougheed 2 ай бұрын

Wonderful playing 🙂

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@adamnemeth9965 Ай бұрын

Came for the sound, stayed for the playing.

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@luthandoheshu984 24 күн бұрын

Roland RD300GX/700GX and Fantom had an Ultimate Grand that sound pretty similatlr to Keyscape piano, I may be wrong. The RD2000 sounds completely different to those pianos. I like both piano sounds though.

@towjam2359 18 күн бұрын

The real winner? Everyone who listened to your playing!

@rolandv-piano 18 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@alexcazares4868 4 күн бұрын

I had RD2000 and it wins in terms of keyboard responsiveness. I'm not talking about the hammer action, I'm talking about the combination of pressing a key and then playing the sound. Because it's synthesis, it's as natural as possible and without delay. When you play through sampler libraries, you hear the delay even at the smallest buffer size. It always feels like you're listening from the side, not playing yourself. And it's not just because of the buffer size. When playing on RD2000 on the physical modeling engine there is no such feeling. And the sound is much better than the Pianoteq. But I sold it because I'm not comfortable with its display and menus.

@rolandv-piano 4 күн бұрын

Not true, I have a Mac M2 and you can achieve almost 0 latency with a quality audio interface. But I still prefer an acoustic instrument for playing.

@alexcazares4868 4 күн бұрын

@@rolandv-piano As I said, it has nothing to do with the latency that the audio interface gives you. This is only small factor. I'm talking about something a little different. V-piano has better feel under your fingers, better feedback. It's one of the driest sounds and hits you right in the face. All the libraries sound like it's a beautiful picture under glass, that's how it feels under your fingers. Too many factors for that and it's long to describe. Anyway this is just my opinion

@rolandv-piano 3 күн бұрын

Yes, I agree with you that the V-Piano is more responsive. It has to do with how everything is integrated (keybed, sensors, sounds, calibration, etc…). Sometimes I record my self on the V-Piano and send the MIDI data to a sample library afterwards. I personally like the feel of the V-Piano but the sound is for me not realistic enough in every register and the stereo image is too narrow compared to other plugins.

@alexcazares4868 2 күн бұрын

@@rolandv-piano "It has to do with how everything is integrated (keybed, sensors, sounds, calibration, etc…)" Yeah, that's absolutely right. That's what I was talking about. The V-Piano is good for playing, but for studio work there are many better options out there

@kaanpiyano1 Ай бұрын

A warm tone at the piano in my opinion always wins.

@J-FoxProductionsEDU 4 күн бұрын

It is very much possible to tweak the EQ of the German concert piano's [generated] sound in a way that it could come exceptionally close to a perfect replication of the keyscape's [sampled] sound - I would have made EQ adjustments with slight lowering on the high end and slightly bringing up the mid-range.

@rolandv-piano 4 күн бұрын

Yes it’s possible to EQ both sounds according to your preference. I believe I boosted the highs and lows of the German Concert by a few dB.

@rodrigorsoficial 8 күн бұрын

Boa!!! O piano do Rd é um pouco mais brilhante, com menos graves e mais aberto.. mas ambos soaram lindos. Abraços

@davidsenengele1491 2 ай бұрын

Hey 😊 There's no comparison : Roland is superior ! Even if Keyscape is also great but it sound very "plugin" face to the Roland.

@ricardocastroredondo999 2 ай бұрын

Rd-2000 "the winner", really natural bite and piano performance. Key too much effects but sounds good too(Personally speaking).

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

Some people don’t like the bite :)

@ricardocastroredondo999 2 ай бұрын

@@rolandv-piano Of course!.... ;)

@EduardoRohdeEras Ай бұрын

Feels like Roland will mix better alive, but Keyscape is my favorite for solo

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

I use Keyscape mostly in the studio but I have a couple presets for live too.

@ericmontgomery5241 26 күн бұрын

I would love to know the EQ/compressor settings you used for Keyscape. It sounded great. But your playing is fantastic! The way you play, you could make a Casio from 1980 sound great.

@rolandv-piano 26 күн бұрын

If I remember correctly I just used the “Classical” preset in Keyscape, boosted the lows by 25% and chose the “warm” character. This Yamaha C7 has a warmer/closer sound and is less metalic compared to the default preset in Keyscape. I agree, the playing is the most important thing. Thanks for watching!

@ericmontgomery5241 19 күн бұрын

@@rolandv-piano Thank you. I will try that!

@user-hp2hd5vy5x Ай бұрын

I'd guess Nord piano 5 is the world champ on the market, as to comparison of these two, for me at least they sound equally perfect. But most of all i'd say, Steinway 0 or B :) would be my preference :)

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

Sampling and physical modelling are two completely different technologies

@user-hp2hd5vy5x Ай бұрын

@@rolandv-piano yea , isn't sampling sound more natural and realistic ?

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

@user-hp2hd5vy5x not necessarily, especially when we’re talking about long notes and how they ring, also the interaction between different strings can’t be sampled.

@cremersalex 2 ай бұрын

Does the Keyscape piano have pedal down resonance?

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by that?

@cremersalex 2 ай бұрын

@@rolandv-piano Pedal or damper resonance. When you play on a piano with the damper pedal down, all the strings vibrate a little with the note or chord you just played.

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

It has an option called “sustain realism”

@cremersalex 2 ай бұрын

@@rolandv-piano I see. I looked it up and this option turns off the pedal down samples (samples with resonance) to release the strain on your computer. That means the Yamaha C7 does indeed has pedal down resonance, which is good news. Thank you.

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

Even when it’s on it doesn’t come close to modelled piano sounds but it’s a cool option to have.

@fidelonuselogu8874 2 ай бұрын

Keyscape🎉🎉🎉 but can I use the faders on the rd2000 to control my daw??

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

Yes, if you press shift the led turns green and you can control an external sound

@fidelonuselogu8874 2 ай бұрын

@@rolandv-piano okay thanks what about the knobs and buttons??

@rolandv-piano 2 ай бұрын

I don’t know for sure but I don’t think they send MIDI CC data via usb. They can be assigned to different parameters internally. I will need to try but I usually use AKAI LPD8 controller for external instruments. It’s cheap and very effective especially with Ableton Live.

@luthandoheshu984 2 ай бұрын

Those pianos sound superb. They're both great. As it seems Roland has Ultimate Piano which sounds like Keyscape, I maybe wrong but definitely sound very similar imo. 😊

@MikeHenrick1 2 ай бұрын

Both top notch

@bobaasmr9347 Ай бұрын

I wanna know what the player thinks?

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

I mostly use Keyscape but I like the lower register from Roland modelled pianos.

@instrumentalistjade8367 17 күн бұрын

Keyscape is better but nothing beats the hardware keyboard

@rolandv-piano 16 күн бұрын

Debatable, anything can be replaced

@jonathanalfred9847 17 күн бұрын

Where does the RD 2000 fit in Rolands lineup of keyboards ? Is it the top model ? Is it above a 670 or 920 ? The Roland sounded great until you played the Keyscape. Does that keyscape sound come in a Yamaha keyboard ? And can all of todays keyboards be used as a controller for Keyscape. I want to replace my 15 year old Yamaha keyboard. And i want something allot nicer. But im not sure what to get. I will be using it in my living room. But moving into my bedroom home studeo when i want to record into a daw. And i want the most realistic piano sounds. I am not a great piano player. Just a song writer who wants to record songs that i write. I will not be gigging with the keyboard. I have been watching videos of the 525 and 680, 920, 88, 90 and others. But i still dont know whats best for me. Most videos seem like they dont want to give honest opinions because they are selling all the brands. I wish there was a video that laid out all the strong points and weak points of the top 10 keyboards in a honest way. From someone who isnt bias to one company or sponsered. Any smart advice would be appreciated.

@rolandv-piano 16 күн бұрын

No keyboard or software is the best. You’ll probably need to have multiple options for different types of music. Keyscape is an affordable sampled sounds selection. Modelled instruments are sometimes more realistic in terms of sound. You could probably start with the SL 88 Grand and a M2 Mac to avoid latency and other issues.

@mauroscardini2663 Ай бұрын

The two pianos should be equalized in the same way. Roland is more bright while keyscape looks like it's in the basement!😁

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

That’s not the point of this video. The sounds each have a different character and the eq is part of it.

@frederickbaugher8361 Ай бұрын

The Roland is way too bright. The key scape has its own issues, but it’s the winner.

@rolandv-piano Ай бұрын

When I need a warmer sound I always use Keyscape, plus the plugin has really amazing reverbs. I mostly bring the MIDI velocity down and boost the volume by a few decibels.