JC? JLC?

@@scotdoc James Cameron. Deep-sea.

@@paulhammal7231lol yes. I have one. It’s my favourite Rolex! I got mine 4 years ago. It’s a beautiful piece. Good luck in finding one. If you have your name down for it and your AD is half decent and you have some purchasing history you should be able to get one.i know they are in demand like most Rolex but its not a Daytona, sub, or gmt 2.

In the market for the same. I’m seeing everything above list, mind sharing where you were able to pull this off?

@@s.christian7049 collecting watches auction site. A lot of JC come through. If you’re patient you can bag a real beauty in unworn condition. Good luck 🤞

ya i could not agree with you more. I have a few pieces but this air of superiority rather than accomplishment has soured me. I don't care if they have a full store or not, these guys supported the flippers and took kickbacks. A Rolex does not make anyone special, accomplishment does. I'm sure this is why Rolex is taking more control of the ADs now as their message of marking achievement has gone right out of the window.

@@fishheadbreakroomwell said

Same here, I find AD's for Rolex too arrogant. The two Rolexes I have were both walk in buys from AD's some time ago now. I refuse to play the game now.

I am in exactly the same boat.

Rolex is already getting haunted. The CPO program failed, those watches are more expensive than MSRP and you can get them cheaper on the grey market

@@angelacosta466AP is heading this way in insisting in setting its own grey market for new watches.

Who’s to say the “man and wife” story isn’t made up? Point of the story being the man was wrong to not enter the store on that particular day, which really could be any given day. Any store owner wants potential customers to come inside. Whole video is a big giant advert for that airport store, and the “man and wife” story suits perfectly.

People are funny, since the more you screw them about, the more they bow and scrape. Personally, I am the diametrically opposed opposite. We are clearly in the minority my friend.

Same with me when I bought my first Rolex at Selfridge’s watch room in December 1995. I had no AD relationship, no kissing of back sides, none of that nonsense. I just walked in and found a watch I liked, I gave them my credit card, and bought it. I still own that watch 30 years down the road. Money is just as happy sitting in a bank account then going for a Rolex, and can be used for nice other things like a Speedmaster, travel, cars, and investments of other forms. So it’s definitely not the end of the world. But what is for certain is the Rolex brand is not doing itself any favors by having a generally snooty atmosphere in their shops. But that was not the case this time.

@@geronimopoletto3282we all know that ain’t gonna happen lol

I've been on the T5 "list" since August 23 for a Sub and at T2 for an Explorer 2 since September 23. Unsurprisingly, no call yet but I have bought a SMP 300 Green and Blackbay 54 since then from their T3 store to help the itch... 😀

No

Haha 😛.. that is the actual fact

yet their rent gets paid and the staff is still in there for a reason, to lie to people.

I am very happy to hear that the lady working in this shop was equally friendly. It is a refreshing change to what we are used to when visiting Rolex ADs looking for watches these days. If you do get lucky with securing a watch, please let us know.

It’s been a wish list since 2021 been there had that conversation. Registered and de registered as they asked to buy overpriced second hand from just opposite to their entrance

@@suds782 the staff are probably on £12 an hour but look down on you as if you need something from them 😂 What these silly Rolex AD’s don’t realise is that we want to buy a Rolex but We Don’t Need one 😂

Lol there is no waiting list

@@Chris-de2qc if so, how do they know who to call if they've got stock to sell?

What datejust was it ? Colour/bezel/bracelet ?

Datejusts aren't in high demand. Those, and the cheaper Oyster Perpetuals, are the ones you have to buy in order to get closer to the sports models.

Congratulations, you are very lucky that sounds like a very nice buy. May you wear the watch in good health for many years to come.

Wow, you have a fabulous collection and it would mirror my full set Rolex desire as well actually. Even the James Cameron Deep Sea .. when I look at the Deep Sea it’s quite a thick watch and that’s why it’s lower on my list. I’m just thinking that it’s quite a big huge chunk of metal to have floating around the wrist. Does the thickness of the watch and its heft distract in any way from your daily wear experience? I’m just curious your thoughts on this.

@@WatchFanHenry Hi there. No, i dont feel it at all but i can see why others might say this. I can imagine if you are used to wearing something’s bit more sophisticated like a Patek, for example, and then put this on then I can see these people not really appreciating the Deep Sea. For me the attraction is its size, look and the engineering that lies beneath its case. In fact its not just inside the case, its the case itself, the valve and also the bracelet. I love utility watches. I think thats why I tend to gravitate towards Rolex and AP. It’s the sturdiness and design and for the most part the understated nature of them. I did try a few Pateks on and if I’m honest was not impressed personally. The watches I did try were quite flimsy and fragile and too thin. In fact sometimes I couldn’t feel I was wearing a watch…. I obviously would like a nautilius or aquanaut. After I found out the watches I would have had to purchase in order to be put on a wish list was too much for me. Essentially I would have had to purchase two or three Pateks to even be considered to be put on the nautilus and aquanaut wish list which may or may never be successful… I think I am two old in the tooth for this. Also I know Rolex play games but not like this. I think I will stick to what I love and that’s utiliyt watches with a sprinkle of datejusts. You know what I have observed and that is AP really do not play any games… at least based on my experiences.. I just bought all the watches I wanted and was never asked to purchase watch x to get watch y. I have a lot of affection for AP actually. Beautiful watches!

I share the same sentiment. As I was unable to purchase a brand new watch from a Rolex AD over the past 5 years, I purchased the next best thing at a good price in Japan. I got a 2021 Air-King like new and a vintage Sub both for a fantastic price. Rolex has no control on the secondary market in Japan and this is where I found the best prices. So I spent my money in Japan and Rolex didn’t get a penny of it.

I've been on the T5 "list" since August 23 for a Sub and at T2 for an Explorer 2 since September 23. Unsurprisingly, no call yet but I have bought a SMP 300 Green and Blackbay 54 since then from their T3 store to help the itch... 😀

Rolex have no control over who the dealers sell to (aside from Bucherer but that will take time to settle down)

It seems more and more people are leaving comments that they’re finding lots of Rolex watches for sale around the world. Maybe one of these years I’ll have somebody say “would you like to buy a watch?” But I’m not going to hold my breath because of my zero track record. I tried to buy a watch every year for my collection, and I’ve been spending my money in Japan because they’re willing to sell me watches at reasonable prices. My money is welcome in Japan, but clearly not good enough for Rolex, so I’m quite happy to contribute it to the Japanese economy.

@@WatchFanHenry Bravo! Fully agree with you

Wow, I wonder who this lucky person was. I guess he was a professional watch flipper.

Rolex asks questions to try to filter out the flippers

@@Chris-de2qc Ad’s sell to flippers. Plain and simple. How else do you explain walking into a grey market dealer around the corner from an AD and they have a wall full of pristine Rolex to sell for a premium of course. The wait list is not a waiting list like you get at the delicatessen. It’s a list of interest and they have to remember you before you even get a chance at a look in.

In your dreams.. 😂😂

did you buy them all?

Very sad analogy for a salesman in a Rolex shop. I was at London Heathrow again, quite recently, and spoke to a different person who gave me a very interesting perspective, which I’m going to be sharing very shortly. It speaks to exactly exactly what we’re talking about here.

Hard to disagree!

Same watch, around the same year, cost me around £400. In a jewellery shop that was a Rolex agent not an AD. The shop had various Rolex models for sale, over the counter.

That's why Wilsdorf created Tudor...

It's called inflation lol This is nothing to do with Rolex.

@b2bt696 using that logic a can of Pepsi should now cost £15? Or $22 US?

@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv can you not count? What was a can back in 1980 and what does it cost now? Bear in mind, you can't directly compare a can of Pepsi to a high end luxury watch 😂

True Fact

Yes, I had the same thought. How come every single time I walk past it is zero for zero, unless I want to buy a solid gold piece .. which I don’t.

Thanks for your insight. I have my name down in an AD for only 6 months, but have a Bulova on order with them. When I collect, do you think that's a good time to reaffirm my interest, or is that too on the nose? Cheers.

@@fullymechanical9055 Hi - from my experience reminding them that you’re still interested in a Rolex model is worthwhile - especially when you’re purchasing another brand. At the beginning of my ‘quest’ for a ‘Hulk’ when I rang a Rolex AD in 2019 to see if they’d accept me on the ‘waiting list’ the manageress actually said that she had a ‘No date’ Sub available as they had not had a response in 24 hours from a customer they had contacted & it would save her ringing the ‘next person on the list’! Which model have you asked for?

@@macrolex9485 Thanks. I have asked for an OP41 in green.

Thank you for this very informative and detailed information on how the watches that do show up, get divied up among the people coming in through the doors doors. Rolex must be one of the only retailers in the world that has this methodology on how they sell their product in these scare times. I appreciate your taking the time to leave this. Very nice comment for all to see.

No, it’s like saying Porsche might discontinue a variant or colour of the 911, not the complete 911 model line itself.

How come for two-tone watches people are saying they are not worth buying I love two tone watches as you get more gold for your purchase price than if you just buy a steel watch. So I’d rather have gold on my wrist instead of all steel, but I’m in the minority with this thought?

@@WatchFanHenryIt's a supply and demand thing on the 2 tone. Don't know why most people not prefer the 2 tone ones. For Rolex even the steel Daytonas have more demand than the all gold ones.

Thank you for the comment Dave. I appreciate it. Your insight is always welcome.

Personally, I wouldn’t pay a penny over list price for a Rolex watch and that’s why I’m down for five years of visiting authorized dealers and have never purchased a watch from one of the authorized dealers. But I have purchased two Rolex watches on the secondary market in Japan, where prices are considerably less than what they are in Europe and North America.. I agree a million percent there’s no point in paying a penny over list price .. not for me anyhow.

I hear what you’re saying, but I guess he wasn’t going to be chasing somebody outside of the footprint shop. Maybe that’s a red line for employees of Rolex.

I guess you are right Joe .. as I pass through LHR I just like to check in with them for whatever words of wisdom can be shared.

It begs the question .. what are they doing with all that manufacturing volume? Some people think they’re selling their watches through the back door for higher than list prices thus changing their entire marketing model. But if this was the case, why bother even maintaining the retail shops? The whole thing makes very little sense.

Hi Phil, I have been treated the exact same way as you so I know exactly how you feel. I bought my first Rolex from the Rolex counter at Selfridge’s on Oxford Street in London in 1995 and I chose the exact watch that I wanted, and I still own it and love it today. No Rolex dealer has been willing to sell me a watch over the last several years of asking at every single Rolex shop I’ve walked into after lockdowns ended. I will keep trying and trying. As I refuse to pay over list price .. that’s not going to happen for me.

Very good question. I assumed it was Watches of Switzerland, but I’m not sure .. now that you ask.

@@WatchFanHenry , if you have a purchase history, it might help. Two weeks ago, I bought to my wife 31 mm TT LDJ motif flower dial in Bucherer in Selfriges. Not a hard to get piece. The AD appeared to be Bucherer with whom I had around 5k spendings some time ago in Switzerland. After checking my profile, the sales managers found me a watch and put me on the list for a much more desired and thought after piece. I have a strong feeling that I will get it quite soon. It would be good to know if Bucherer is in LHR as having a purchase history with particular AD might make life a little easier. Especially, bearing in mind that I visit LHR quite often.

Pretty much the truth .. in the past it was just a long faced sales person without anything to say other than “we have no watches” so this was in fact the very best visit I’ve had at a UK Rolex shop since I can remember.

Thank you very much for the comment. I’m going to check out the Tudor Pelagos as I’ve never heard of it, but in the past I have owned Tudor and Bucherer branded watches. This was in the 70s in the 80s.

Yeah!! That’s a sentiment that one can hear between the lines, but hopefully there is some truth to his advice🙏🙏

Funny, you mentioned this, I noticed that the Rolex sales people have very nice Rolex pens and lapel pins and I’d like to have one of these as well but I’m sure they are rare items and impossible to purchase anywhere.

But how would you reserve a watch at an airport terminal for a local? They would have to purchase a plane ticket to get in lol

And for this reason, I would not buy a watch in England. I guess if I was offered a GMT I’d be I’d have a major dilemma. What would I do? This is a great topic for a video actually.

It’s like out of a Monty Python sketch actually. Cheese shop sketch.

I agree .. As long as I’m walking this planet, I’ll be walking into the Rolex ADs to ask if they have the watches I want. All they can do is say “no” and I’ll feel no pain.

Thank you for letting me know about eBay. I do watch eBay fairly closely, but I’m looking at the US and Canada ebay sites as opposed to European or elsewhere. For the Rolex prices offered by US and Canadian sellers, I’ve not yet noticed being under retail that you saw. Did you find these under retail Rolex prices on the .uk or a European eBay website as opposed to the North American eBay website?

@@WatchFanHenry UK, I just searched on sold items, it's an option in the filters, you're going to have to be patient, no one is offering under retail Buy it Now. I tell you what though, the previous gen Subs, the 11xxxx, the Maxi case, they are cheap. No date (114060) around £7500 Buy it Now and they have gone for under £6000 at auction on eBay.

They are already sold. That’s why there’s nothing in stock.

they keep the lights on by selling to the gray market dealer at a significant markup. the whole thing is a con. that store is not staying open selling 5 watches a month. you'd be naive to believe that nonsense.

I sure hope that can happen too one day but if you watch my Japan Rolex videos, that’s about the closest thing we can expect in this regard.

I noticed that as well every other watch Brandyn in the world is fully stocked and ready to rock ‘n’ roll. But when it comes to Rolex “ I’m sorry, sir… “ are usually the first words out of the sales person’s mouth as I walk into the store.

Up until this particular visit all of the Rolex AD sales people have been very long faced and non-talkative. It’s kind of like they are prisoners putting in the hours not looking forward to guests. But this particular visit with Nural was quite a nice one so it deserved special mention.

I hope so!! I look forward to seeing more evidence of this in the coming months.

I sure hope you’re right as I’d really like to get myself either if not both a GMT and/or Datejust 41 at retail price from a Rolex AD .. one of these years. And I do a fair bit of travel (more than the average person) and I visit Rolex ADs pretty much all around Asia and Europe on a regular basis .. and I haven’t hit one for sale since I started looking several years ago .. so I’m batting zero for 100 at this point.

I found I can buy nice Rolex watches in Japan without paying ridiculous prices charged in North America and Europe so that worked for me. But not for the GMT so that’s one that I’ll have to persist on. Who knows maybe I’ll eventually find my desire GMT in Japan and then Rolex won’t end up getting one farthing out of me at the end of all of this.

Think John Mayer would walk out empty handed? lol

It is that for sure .. so many people around the world are frustrated and upset and angry at the brand for their extremely poor conduct. The number one mistake that Rolex made is treating people poorly in this period of terrific demand for their product. They should have come up with a fair and equitable solution for everybody to put their name on a central wait list managed at Rolex HQ in Switzerland. It shouldn’t matter where in the world the customer wants to order the watch from, they should have allowed people to place orders by making even a nonrefundable deposit, and then delivering the watches on a first come - first serve basis. This business of having to beg and kiss the back sides of Rolex AD shop managers, and selling watches out the back door to those in the know is total nonsense. You would think if they were smart enough to become a global success, they would be smart enough to know how to treat their customers with respect and fairly. Thus far, this is not the case.

@@WatchFanHenry couldn't agree more but if enough people play the game then why would they change. I enquired at a local AD recently and was basically told I have no chance of even putting my name down, seems silly when other brands allow you to walk out of the store/boutique the same day with a watch

Yes .. I have been told this in a few overseas locations ... where they tell me I can go on a list in my home country only. I was told this at Geneva airport ... I remember it clearly. How ironic it was .... I am at the Rolex boutique in Geneva airport, home country for Rolex, and she was particularly snooty. Having found the ability to buy Rolex watches in Japan at good prices I never bothered to go in and grovel with the local Rolex ADs here in Canada. I am not going to do that. @@michaelhunter636

Wow, that’s incredible .. Congratulations you were able to pick up an Explorer in Spain .. so lucky .. I’ve been looking for many years as you well know with zero luck.

@@WatchFanHenry honestly I could have taken my pick of the 36mm and the 40mm Explorer, plus they had the Air King and Deepsea in stock. On top of that a couple of stainless DJ 41’s including a green dial but smooth bezels. They had numerous two tone and all gold sports models, subs, a GMT rose gold. Literally 20 decent watches for sale. They told me there are no waiting lists I presume because it’s a tourist resort. The AD is called Ideal and it’s based in Playa De Las Américas, I think it’s worth a trip before high summer season I’m confident you’d pick up a decent watch there, possibly stainless steel sports.

Absolutely A M A Z I N G !!!!! Thank you so much for sharing this tip. That's what it is all about ... helping like minded collectors in the community. Wishing you good health and prosperity with your wonderful new Rolex!@@Anonymouslyme1

@@Anonymouslyme1 I just thanked you for this amazing tip using my other YT account ... it is very much appeciated.

@@WatchFanHenry what’s your other YT channel called, I’ll check it out?

Thank you for leaving the comment Frank I do appreciate it, but I am sorry that you didn’t like my video but that’s OK. It is a free world (most of it) and I welcome all comments .. good and bad so it’s all totally fine with me. People seem to resonate to my airport Rolex ADV so that’s why I post them and I generally get some little bit of information from speaking to the people that work at these shops that the viewers find interesting. Ultimately that’s my main focus is to generate conversation around the subject. Lots of people are doing it … that’s true, but I’m passionate about the subject. There’s certainly no rule that says I can’t contribute my content as well.

Dare I say .. I also very recently had another visit to the Rolex authorized dealer at Heathrow terminal 2 just a few days ago, so I’m going to be uploading that video to my channel. If it won’t sit well with you, I totally understand so perhaps it’s best to not watch it. Just a fair warning that it’s coming.

No let up! For now ..

It takes me just a second to ask so I figure why not.

I’ve not been offered one in any of the Rolex ADs I have visited, but if you found that they’re easier to find .. where are you seeing them available? May I ask?

It is mega frustrating that they have “no watches” .. not for me anyhow.

Hopefully it will change soon🙏🙏