This is from the podcast series The History Of Rome by Mike Duncan. He currently does The Revolutions podcast www.revolutionspodcast.com/
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@huldrrrr94863 жыл бұрын
Antoninus Pius sounded like a real bro, probably one of my top 3 fave emperors
@HVLLOWS19992 жыл бұрын
Antoninus's reign is one of my favorite emperor because of his long reign of peace. Rome sitting at the top of its peak just for a moment before a slow decline.
@dalegamburg89952 жыл бұрын
Just remember you are glamourising literally a bunch of fascist slave-drivers ,95 percentage of poverty,25 percentage slaves
@coltenbeachel6452 жыл бұрын
Ronald Reagan is our equivalent
@geordiejones5618 Жыл бұрын
@@coltenbeachel645 not even close. America is still in its Republic phase. It hasn't gone full empire yet.
@thewarrior7766 Жыл бұрын
@@coltenbeachel645 Reagan’s trickle down effect in the long term fucked the us sadly
@GillianSeed Жыл бұрын
To quote our favorite Brazilian basket weaving/his/torian "and he did absolutely nothing. For 25 years. Based "
@0livegarden7452 жыл бұрын
Did nothing for 23 years, based
@hazeshi6779 Жыл бұрын
23 years of no dramatic decline in the society? Based
@whippoorwillss10 ай бұрын
Imagine that. Leave the people alone and don't unnecessarily spill blood and treasure.
@scottoldfield824310 ай бұрын
Based or biased?
@ButthurtImmigrant10 ай бұрын
😂😅😢
@tristanhodgson667610 ай бұрын
If it ain't broken don't fix it 😮
@thomsbooth4906 Жыл бұрын
Hadrian is a fascinating subject for study. His energy was boundless. Just trying to follow his travels around the empire is exhausting. I need to take a nap after trying to follow him around the empire.
@USA18485 жыл бұрын
It took me years to clean up Hadrian's mess.
@andrewb83724 жыл бұрын
Well, you needed something to do...
@bullroarer-took4 жыл бұрын
Yea...what mess
@davidgonzalez-herrera29803 жыл бұрын
Antoninus Pius 😂😂😂😂
@Hugh_Morris3 жыл бұрын
@jaca van heesch what did he accomplish that is deserving of best Emperor? He alienated the senate (executed dozens of them), he abandoned Trajan's conquests, he built an actual cult around his dead gay lover, he went batshit insane (we tend to look down on emperors that did that) and his main goal of pan-Hellenism failed by his own admission. Was it his building projects and stability? Emperors before and after him achieved the same things. Was it his rejection of ancient Roman style because he grew a beard? Or wait, was it the wall he built in cold, rainy Britain? Trajan built greater things and Antonius' reign was even more stable. While he preached philosophy and virtue he was paranoid and murdered his own people, so Marcus outdid him in that department too.
@histguy1013 жыл бұрын
Abandoning Mesopotamia was a good thing. The fact that he was able to do this at all is clear indication that he wasn't alone in this thinking.
@niccoarcadia4179 Жыл бұрын
When I think of Antoninus these words come to me: Conscientious, Practical, Logical, Generous, and very level headed. He's one of my favorite Roman Emporer historical figures. I wish there was more written about him but since he led Rome during a quiet period the historians are silent.
@gardenpop Жыл бұрын
Lmao, Antoninus literally said: "Well if you hate Hadrian's decisions so much, then you must hate me too. If thats true then I'll step down and let something else decide who rules." Senate in a now cowed state: "Ummm, I'm just so sad at our god's passing." Antoninus: "I bet you fuckin are."
@PoochieCollins11 ай бұрын
😂😂
@rigulur2 жыл бұрын
antoninus was basically flextape on the empire. he held things together, even if he didn't kill any big problems
@roycejames7892 жыл бұрын
“Would not be taken lightly” Chad statement at its finest
@roycejames789 Жыл бұрын
Fuck around and find out Parthia Lamo
@ryanmillis36485 жыл бұрын
I love your podcast bud, i wish i had more people to talk history with.
@Alamyst20115 жыл бұрын
Random people on the internet feel the same way. To start. I personally find the parrallells between The Roman Republic and the modern US Democracy to be fascinating. I wonder and hope that we will route out the excesses and focus on the strong points.
@Woman_in_the_Wilderness4 жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 I think that ship has sailed - and will sink soon.
@Alamyst20114 жыл бұрын
@@Woman_in_the_Wilderness I believe we are in turmoil as a nation and a people. If we are able to bridge the divide I have hope.
@Woman_in_the_Wilderness4 жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 because of the prophecies, I do not see this getting better: "Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation (translated from the Greek word "ethnos" which means "ethnicity") will rise against nation ("ethnicity"), and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." Matthew 24:3-14
@michaelfisher71704 жыл бұрын
@@Woman_in_the_Wilderness Men who live by apocalyptic prophecies usually find a way to make those prophecies happen.
@lordjimbo27 жыл бұрын
Very fair assessment of Hadrian. He's been a bit overrated by modern historians and is probably a clear 5 or 6 on the Greatest Emperors chart.
@jacobsoltero28725 жыл бұрын
Eh I put him at 8 or 9. Ik it's wierd but im bias toward others of my favor. Like Aurelian and Titus etc. For what they could have done if they reigned linger.
@SkylineFTW97 Жыл бұрын
I think he's underrated compared to Trajan. He was one of the few who understood how important it was to not stretch the borders thin and to fortify the existing borders (Domitian also gets bonus points for this with his policy). And although Trajan's more hands off policy was more practical, Hadrian was at least a capable and efficient administrator like Domitian before him. I think Trajan's eastern conquests actually stand as a black mark on his reign when the unsustainable scope of his conquest is considered. One that even prior to his death were showing that they were not practical to keep up and they would've certainly left the empire weaker had they not been abandoned so quickly. And his handling of the 3rd Jewish revolt makes sense in the context that it was in. This wasn't some unprovoked massacre like Carthage or Corinth before or Thessalonika after. This was reacting to a clear and present internal threat.
@charlesramirez587 Жыл бұрын
@@SkylineFTW97 I dismiss his handling of the Jewish revolt because he was too invested in an antagonistic approach. It doesn't make sense for what Rome was as a state. It seemed to be only provoked by Hadrians obsessive imposition
@rationalbasis217211 ай бұрын
@@charlesramirez587 How many times did the ancient Jews revolt against Rome?
@melvinbrotherofthejoker4367 ай бұрын
@@charlesramirez587maybe because they depopulated a lot of the east in the last war, and they didn’t revolt again after this one did they?
@antoniusbritannia82175 жыл бұрын
Great upload. I have always been fascinated with the Emperor Hadrian. Well thought out, with a good delivery. Fine on depth history.
@tessierashpoolmg7776 Жыл бұрын
How generous
@TK-js7yzАй бұрын
If I ever become an emperor, Antoninus will be my guiding role model ❤
@erinaltstadt42342 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@KeithShuler5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. I followed you on TuneIn know I'm checking it out on KZfaq. I learn something every day! Thanks dude.
@megatron..90325 жыл бұрын
Mike aint uploading shit ! Timeus does thou.
@juanferrero20092 жыл бұрын
I love these podcasts!
@stevenchurch11637 жыл бұрын
I think Hadrian, knowing that the too short front pillars marred the perfection of the pantheon, chose not to put his name on it but to leave Agrippa's--if his name was on it the pantheon would be his defining structure...
@cybersasho7 жыл бұрын
Good point. It's also an unintentional metaphor for the beginning of the end of the golden age of Rome. The strive to the greatest heights of perfection - the conquests of Trajan, his forum and markets. And the end of the ascent during Hadrian.
@richardsmith28795 жыл бұрын
This is complicated. There were two ‘stock’ heights of column imported from Egypt, and there is a strong suspicion that the shorter of the two was used simply because sufficient of the longer ones were not readily available. Also, the perspective from the enclosed forecourt of the temple complex would have made the base of the dome invisible anyway. Plus it was to honour Agrippa that this third restoration was made by Hadrian. I’ve just found this video and will take a look, but I read this observation and felt a need to comment.
@Figgy_233 ай бұрын
Conquest, war and nail bitting tactical battles are always dramatic and entertaining… Call me a spoil sport, but I like the emperors that kept things stable and didn’t bleed money and doom souls in bloody conflict
@festus5697 жыл бұрын
The most interesting part is when Mike Duncan talks about the war between Judea and Rome.
@-timaeus-97817 жыл бұрын
I think the whole period from Caesar to Trajan is a very interesting part of history.
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@josephmasten75883 ай бұрын
Hadrian would be on camera today trying to meet a 14 year old boy at walmart 😂
@redheadchickens10 ай бұрын
To be honest, David Schwimmer is a hell of an actor.
@stephendean28962 жыл бұрын
No one rules alone. The delicate manipulation of those who desire power is what makes a great ruler.
@theskycavedin2 жыл бұрын
There's a slab of rock on an island off the coast of Yemen with a Latin inscription referencing Antinious Pious. Seems during his reign some Romans had made it down there.
@rosiehawtrey2 жыл бұрын
They had dealings with states out that way, Himyar is one and Axum another - part of a trade in Incense of all things
@ashtonbarwick66962 жыл бұрын
Roman indo-parthian trade
@rosiehawtrey2 жыл бұрын
Yemen now is what used to be Himyar just with less Jews and more technicals.
@jackssmirkingrevenge93655 жыл бұрын
the more history i learn, the less certain i become in general about its veracity
@-timaeus-97815 жыл бұрын
Have y looked into alternative history? There's a cool channel called NewEarth on youtube you might like although her accent takes a bit of getting use to.
@jackssmirkingrevenge93655 жыл бұрын
@@-timaeus-9781 yeah, i actually came across her because she deals with megalithic architecture also - another of my passions - but as you mentioned, her accent is just too thick for me to comfortably listen without having to excoriate each word for comprehension dont get me wrong, i love history. i specialise in world war two. but having learnt over time how wrong the mainstream view can be just over the period of seventy odd years, going back two thousand or so seems to me slightly shaky ground. throw in history is written by victors and chinese whisper phenomena and it seems a bit hazy im sure for instance youve heard the theory (i dare say someone as studied as you would call it conspiracy) that something occurred in what would be the north western european dark ages to skew the date of the romans further than it should be into the past, not to mention the possibly likelier one that jesus christ, the new testament and the *roman* catholic church in general were all concocted purposefully by the roman empire. regardless, love your podcasts and knowledge in general. take care 🖒
@kirkfisher1884 жыл бұрын
@@jackssmirkingrevenge9365 that 'theory' is exactly how I am able to stay excited century after century through this. Let me ask you, or anyone, about that possibility (probability)... Did the west, through Judea, endorse the mohammedean culture to further tighten the grip of Roman culture farther east.
@Insectoid_ Жыл бұрын
Be wary of alternative history channels guys. It’s ok to keep an open mind. But don’t end up going down far right conspiracy routes. Lol
@frankvandorp205910 ай бұрын
@@Insectoid_ What is "far right" about any of those conspiracy theories? Or do you just use that term to denote anything you disagree with as something bad and scary?
@808_rafa4 жыл бұрын
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@JonatasAdoM5 жыл бұрын
I imagine Hadrian in the beach making sand walls.
@thepo35604 жыл бұрын
Sometimes just to show up is big .
@armandduarte41935 жыл бұрын
yo Hadriannn
@sunofpeter25 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!
@babyyoda0U8123 жыл бұрын
This is probably my new favorite comment
@mahatmarfigo2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@noahlogue Жыл бұрын
Hadrian was a good emperor but he had his faults but I love his unremarkable traits that made him relatable.
@liamtangney29635 жыл бұрын
How did I get here
@toastmapping75257 жыл бұрын
28:41 If Hadrian supposedly moved Terminus and it was a huge thing, wouldn`t that also mean the empire couldn`t expand either?
@hailalexander936 жыл бұрын
ToastMapping He explains that it never had any boundaries on outward expansion. Only retraction of the borders.
@angelahope32735 жыл бұрын
Hi There, Does the forum still exist?
@betaomega87245 жыл бұрын
Angela- hope this helps- ROMAN FORUM TODAY Today, the Roman Forum is a popular tourist attraction. Visitors can get a first-hand look at the ancient ruins and architectural fragments that were left behind. Persistent efforts to restore and preserve the ruins remain a top priority Source www.history.com/topics/roman-forum
@jahmanoog4613 жыл бұрын
My word Ms Angela Hope. Please try to learn some basic research skills. At least you are interested. Try reading a book for depth of understanding.
@mjonhouston3 жыл бұрын
@@jahmanoog461 -don't be a dick Jah., a simple "yes" or "no" is all Angela was asking., If she wanted to "read a book" or do some "research" , she probably wouldn't be listening to an audio book like the rest of us., we have helpful people like Beta Omega happy to provide a quick,easy answer to Angela.,..."try" not to e such a dick.
@BigMamaJama3 жыл бұрын
@@jahmanoog461 What kind of name is Jah?? That sounds like a sound I make when pushing out a poop.
@jahmanoog4613 жыл бұрын
Thank you Beta Omega, certainly more helpful than me. See Bob Marley for meaning of Jah. Your bathroom humor is base and telling.
@Viktors633 Жыл бұрын
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@gonzalofranco42962 жыл бұрын
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@EPICDZN2 жыл бұрын
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@christiansmith-of7dt2 ай бұрын
What would happen if it didnt hurt so much all the time
@manuelbriceno214410 ай бұрын
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@Wallyworld304 жыл бұрын
Did you monetize Mike's podcast? I just got an ad?
@-timaeus-97814 жыл бұрын
No, my channel is not monetized. It is informational.
@Wallyworld304 жыл бұрын
@@-timaeus-9781 I know it's always been that way which is why I made a comment about it. KZfaq made me watch a commercial before this video played. First time ever and I've listened to it probably 20 times.
@eddiemaciejewski94454 жыл бұрын
It seems to have been monetized. Im getting ads as well now
@youvebeengreeked2 жыл бұрын
There. That image right there. That very time period. That's it: the peak of human history. Beautiful. :')
@TK-js7yzАй бұрын
Lukuas deeds in Cirenaica are not widely known, what is your source on 200k casualties of Jewish rebels?
@TheCaesarion2 жыл бұрын
Im getting sad. The beginning of the end :(
@gjones75473 жыл бұрын
"Foggy island on the edge of the World." Nothing changes in 2 thousand years... lol.
@Friendly-Unit3 жыл бұрын
There was a point it was arguably the centre of the world but back to obscurity we are determined to go.
@dominusdevacore5174 жыл бұрын
Duncan stated the province was depopulated. If the province was so depopulated how did 600k folks die? Seems like an inflated number of 6s.
@histguy1014 жыл бұрын
Per Cassius Dio, 50 fortified towns destroyed, 983 villages, and 580,000 Jews, rebels, rebel Jews, Samaritans, etc died. So it looks like Duncan rounded up
@dominusdevacore5174 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 I suppose you think 580k died in exodus too? Stop being so blatantly anti Semitic.
@histguy1014 жыл бұрын
Sigh....in a world of idiots, the brain is a burden
@danielbylund89374 жыл бұрын
It's a reoccurring theme in the history of the choosen ppl
@Hugh_Morris3 жыл бұрын
@@danielbylund8937 you should see Julian the Apostates written piece on how god selecting the Jews as his "chosen people" shows him to be a stupid god because they amounted to nothing in Antiquity and were always conquered by Pagans
@historycenter40117 жыл бұрын
Does this Hadrian have anything to do with Hadrian's Wall. 2000 subscribers!!!
@Pandacous5 жыл бұрын
Riad al-Assad /MappingArm/ nah nah nothing at all
@rosiehawtrey Жыл бұрын
Yup, Poofterus Imperator is to blame for Hadrians Wall. He's that Hadrian.
@stevenleslie85573 жыл бұрын
This 2nd Jewish war sounds worse than the Flavian campaign 50 years earlier.
@rosiehawtrey Жыл бұрын
From Dovahhatty with love 😁😂😂😂😂
@johnmurdoch30834 жыл бұрын
There is something dislikeable about hadrian. Not incompetent but certainly hypocritical. Domitian was a more honest man and a better emperor.
@johnmurdoch30834 жыл бұрын
@Robert Bonneau because I'm on the internet.
@freyasslain22034 жыл бұрын
I agree
@freyasslain22034 жыл бұрын
@Robert Bonneaufor the same reason that mike Duncan does
@ronaldvronca89993 жыл бұрын
To close to mic.
@staygoldponyboy88813 жыл бұрын
Naturally feeling the effect of 20 years on the throne🤣
@yaboyed57792 жыл бұрын
What a flex🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lucienmonson83984 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have to be that person and point out that saying Hadrian was “gay” is like saying Trajan was “republican” or something, in the sense that that concept didn’t exist yet, even if we consider his behaviors to fit him in that category. That identity didn’t exist anymore than being “straight” did.
@richardscathouse3 жыл бұрын
Triggered?
@levinoseberg42843 жыл бұрын
I dunno man... hunting down dat Anatolian boi pucci is pretty gay.
@CraftyChicken912 жыл бұрын
Okay, sure, in so many words. He wasn't gay, he just exclusivly had sex, and romance with men. And that pissed people off. Or we could just use the modern day shorthand and say he was gay you fucking nerd.
@antthegord94112 жыл бұрын
@@CraftyChicken91 lold
@dyan35682 жыл бұрын
Gay and homosexual are simply just modern terms for people who have same sex relations. In Roman times they were many names used and they would differ depending on if you took the 'dominant' or 'passive' role' in the sexual act/relationship. So those terms may not have existed then, but people attracted to the same sex most certainly did. Hadrian was one of those people. So maybe stop arguing semantics and accept that history is gayer than some people like to believe. And keep this in mind, just because someone was married it doesn't mean that they were straight. It just means they had to follow the norms of their society because to not do could lead to social suicide, imprisonment, torture, death or all of the above. Something which still holds true in many places today.
@epulash57655 жыл бұрын
Heyyy, 50000th view
@pzahyu2733 ай бұрын
Jw jw jw...
@QWERTY199055 жыл бұрын
Slept watching sth I don't remember, yt autoplay was on, now somehow I know that Caesar screwed over Germans, Hadrian wasn't a great architect and was deRomanizing the empire, also I think there was a Gay relationship in there, and Romans had some Law around Pedophilia legitimizing an older man relations with a younger boy,.... *I'm a happier man now, thank you*
@CooleyFord4 жыл бұрын
Ain't it great to be Gay?
@michaelfisher71704 жыл бұрын
@David Sibbald And yet evolution hasn't selected against it, as heterosexual couples keep making gay kids.
@michaelfisher71704 жыл бұрын
@David Sibbald Right. Its always been a minority within the larger population. So it has no bearing, excepting personal offspring production, on evolution. And even that can be overcome these days with technology. So its basically a non issue.
@richardscathouse3 жыл бұрын
Not when your position requires heirs.
@theConquerersMama3 жыл бұрын
Roman law/tradition did not require an heir of the body. Heirs could be adopted and even passed over a man's natural children. Adults often adopted other adults as their heirs. The adoptee then taking their name or form of it as well as the inheritance. Also fun fact, gay men (and women) can produce children. Just not with their lover.
@dittmannrudolfrohr21492 жыл бұрын
@@michaelfisher7170 Gays recruit, not reproduce.
@josefmaster11883 жыл бұрын
Hadrian was a disgrace, 50 years later the empire was falling apart beacause the bad descision of defence over attack, poor Marcus and thank god for Aurelianus 100 years later, without them the wolrd would be very diferent, Kuietus would have been the most convinient succesor of Traijan. not the greekling.
@pharaohsmagician83293 жыл бұрын
Good to think about, what do you think the World would have been like had those men died? Restitutor Orbis
@goodsolonius73053 жыл бұрын
As if the Germans and Sassanids would have allowed Rome to rule all of Germania and Mesopotamia indefinitely. Your hero Aurelian abandoned Dacia why?
@pharaohsmagician83293 жыл бұрын
@@goodsolonius7305 Ah, Solonius. Why how pleasent it is to see you here in the comment section for once. Perhaps the Pits have closed?
@goodsolonius73053 жыл бұрын
@@pharaohsmagician8329 I Don’t favor the pits. I prefer to do battle in the arena, with honor
@Kyle_Schaff Жыл бұрын
@@pharaohsmagician8329 Hey, I don’t know if you remember me. I’m relistening through the podcast again and mindlessly scrolling through the comments. Just wanted to pop into your notification feed and say I regret being hostile towards you back then-it was uncalled for
@johnwayne76215 жыл бұрын
Great content, but it is in no way charming to hear the inner workings of your mouth. Move the mic further away for christ sake!
@-timaeus-97815 жыл бұрын
Lol, he made this ten years ago.
@Pandacous5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me why Hadrian is viewed as a “good” emperor. Pretty much everything he did undermined Rome and what made it great. Whether it was undermining Roman authority or Roman policies. Sure he built great works but so did Nero and Caligula. He withdrew from Trajans conquests that of which made Rome seen as a second coming of Augustus. That and he had a fundamental dissolution with that of what made Rome great. Rome was made by conquests. Whenever it conquered people it destroyed its culture and replaced it with Roman culture. Then they put their collective boot on the throat of anyone who was left or committed genocide to replace the land with roman citizens. See Caeser for proof as he systematically destroyed Gaul and forged it into a roman Province. Trajan did the same even conquering Romes ancient enemy Parthia. Hadrian withdrew sure but not just from Trajans legacy but from Roman ideas and policy. Please someone defend Hadrian I want to be wrong but as far as I see he wasn’t as hot as he is remembered.
@fourthaeon94185 жыл бұрын
no idea, maybe the same reason as Nerva by association with Trajan
@Pandacous5 жыл бұрын
Dirty D Disagrees because he killed the jews?
@slim420MM5 жыл бұрын
Because he was openly gay.
@Moribus_Artibus5 жыл бұрын
He was no Nero and Caligula but he certainly was no Trajan or even Vespasian
@histguy1015 жыл бұрын
Could they have held mesopotamia for that long? Not everyone could be converted to "Roman," such as the Germanic tribes, or the tribes north of Hadrians wall, who simply couldn't be conquered and Romanized. The Romans were beginning to learn one of the most important lessons that helped them last for so much longer; that you don't just obliterate the enemies on your border, as their absense might lead to someone far more dangerous moving in. You simply try to keep them pruned. BTW, Trajan conquered Dacia. Guess who moved into Dacia a century later? The much more dangerous Goths