Rome's GENIUS border defense strategy | 3D modeling the Rhine frontier

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We covered Roman frontiers in Britain, Jordan, Egypt, and the Neverlands... We thought its time for the largest one; the Rhine frontier! It is often said that Augustus founded and built the Roman border with the Rhine, that he installed stone forts along it, and that it was an unshakable border meant to repel any invasion. This video aims to dispel the above myths and shed some light on Roman borders. It wasn't one emperor who built it, it took decades for the wooden forts to slowly become permanent stone ones, and the border was very dynamic network that shifted through the centuries! This video covers the grand strategy of the Rhine frontier and explains how Roman borders worked, as well as how Rome built its largest border. (Defense in depth - How Rome guarded its LARGEST border)
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Breeze, D. J. The Frontiers of Imperial Rome. Barnsley: Pen and Sword. 2011.
Kortüm, K. Zur Datierung der Römischen Militäranlagen im obergermanisch-raetischen Limesgebiet. Chronologische Untersuchungen anhand der Münzfunde, Saalburg, Jahrbuch, 1998 , 49: 5-65.
Planck, D. ‘Das Kleinkastell Rötelsee nördlich von Welzheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis’, Archäologische Ausgrabungen in Baden-Württemberg, 1974, 40-43.
Reuter, M. and Thiel, A. Der Limes: Auf den Spuren der römer Darmstadt: Konrad Theiss. 2007.
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Thiel, A.‘The Odenwald limes and its relation to the Antonine Wall’, in W.S. Hanson (ed.) The army and frontiers of Rome: papers offered to David J. Breeze on the occasion of his sixty-fifth birthday and retirement from HistoricScotland Portsmouth: Journal of Roman Archaeology, 2009, 134-141.
Woolliscroft, D.J. 1997 ‘Signalling and the design of the German limes’, in W. Groenman-van Waateringe, B. van Beek, W. Willems and S. Wynia (eds.) Roman Frontier Studies 1995 Oxford: Oxbow, 595-602.
Intro (0:00)
Creation of the Frontier (1:55)
The Roman thought process (5:37)
The watchtowers (9:17)
The fortlets (11:21)
The Roman Grand Strategy (13:28)
Fighting Invaders (14:32)
Impressive self-sufficiency! (16:07)
The frontier's death (17:51)

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@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

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@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

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@Hallgrenoid 2 ай бұрын

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@davidhughes8357 2 ай бұрын

After years of studying Roman military history videos like this one with this kind of detail are so important. Thank you friends .

@ciuyr2510 2 ай бұрын

indeed, thank you for such detailed inner-workings of an empire. All behind Praetorian for atmosphere, yum.

@daylight3325 2 ай бұрын

Grammer?

@rainmaker132 2 ай бұрын

I contributed in this video. I am happy you enjoy the video, but please, don’t call me friend.

@rainmaker132 2 ай бұрын

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@ditto1958 2 ай бұрын

@@rainmaker132Huh?

@wfr1108 2 ай бұрын

That letter from "Bassus to Galatus" made me think of my brother. I have many qualms with modernity, but I am glad I don't have to worry about him like that. Doubt I'd ever leave my family's locality if I lived in such a troubled world.

@jonbaxter2254 2 ай бұрын

People haven't changed.

@plazmica0323 2 ай бұрын

Guard duty was, is and will be most hated duty in the world hah I can only imagine the horrors on alien planets future human guard will have to be on a look out post

@SenorTucano 2 ай бұрын

Wow I’m impressed. I thought the Roman defences were on the Roman side of the Danube and Rhine. I never realised they projected so far forward into Garmania

@benjamindees 9 күн бұрын

The Rhine was named after the grapes that the Romans planted all along it. They would have preferred a southern exposure, which means controlling the north bank.

@Proud2bGreek1 2 ай бұрын

The soundtrack from the Praetorians is a nice touch, brought back memories.

@kogerugaming 2 ай бұрын

I was wondering why is it so familiar, then I also realised that it is from praetorians.

@andychap6283 2 ай бұрын

Love how this channel provides in depth coverage of the ancient world by focusing on a case example of a specific section of the roman border

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Now that you know how chaotic and complicated Roman borders were, something equally impressive is how they managed to outfit EVERY soldier with state-of-the-army equipment and supply it to them. Check out their GENIUS weapon production industry here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ermUrdeGmZydhqc.html

@EllieMaes-Grandad 2 ай бұрын

The difference between chaos and genius is that genius has its limits.

@ZefiBear 2 ай бұрын

Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. The 3D models help so much in visualizing how life was!

@pipp972 2 ай бұрын

Very neat to be able to visualize day to day life in the frontiers so well!

@GarfieldRex 6 күн бұрын

Incredible the complexity of such defenses, not only locally, but the regional strategy done, they were truly advanced and sophisticated. Great video as usual, excellence is the cognomen if this channel 👌🏼

@thalmoragent9344 2 ай бұрын

Man, imagining Rome with an Industrial Revolution would've been wild to see. Same with what if the Eastern Roman Empire had continued on, with aid from the West to stand up to the Turkish armies.

@david7384 2 ай бұрын

imagining any European power rising without white guilt would be insane. global government in decades

@DazBochiz 2 ай бұрын

tbf the eastern roman empire was ransacked by\from the west multiple times

@wedgeantilles8575 2 ай бұрын

A Rome without the (later) constant civil wars would be enough. Without these constant fightin legions vs legions, Rome would probably never have fallen - and then sooner or later it would have come to an industrial revolution in the Roman Empire. Well, I can't change the past - but at least in Stellaris I always create my Roman Empire and lead it to domination in the galaxy :) (And funnily enough I must have a lot of "brothers" who do the same - the devs implanted Roman numbers and names for leaders and ships several years ago!)

@Tjalve70 2 ай бұрын

Q: "How often do you think of the Roman Empire?" A: "Only once per day. Unless I have a sleep in the afternoon. Then it is twice per day."

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Same for me; just 1 continuous thought in between bedtimes…

@DarkVeghetta 2 ай бұрын

3:56 Hadrian's love of walls continues into the modern day in all those RTS players that build three rows of walls around their entire base, cover every inch of said walls with towers, and keep a decent mobile response force handy in case of long-ranged attacks. It's possible to break those defenses, but it _will_ be painful for any attacker.

@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 2 ай бұрын

Its a good day when Historia Militum uploads a Roman Fort video!

@ROGERIUSTEUTONICUS 2 ай бұрын

Incredible seeing more focus on my home region. The agri decumates and the other border regions are the most interesting thing for me in roman history. The way the roman culture merged and organically adapted the germanic and celtic influences seems kind of like a return to a panindoeuropean conciousness like parts of a whole that were torn apart and now put together again. I would appreciate more focus on these topics.Thank you for this interesting video.

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Im very happy you enjoyed. There is a good chance we will be 3D reconstructing a huge legionary fort on the Rhine. Just have to decide on which one!

@TP-ym1xe 2 ай бұрын

This episode was another great addition to the channel - and one of my favourites! The details you have included about the Roman borders was original and insightful. I actually feel I'm getting university-level education with this episode, as well as details about history I would struggle to find anywhere else. Awesome artwork too!

@DaniellaCoronel-pr9pq 13 күн бұрын

When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you.

@istoppedcaring6209 2 ай бұрын

i'd argue that rivermussels were a lot more palletable when rivers were clean

@SoulWhite 2 ай бұрын

I'm going to leave this video for tomorrow to enjoy next to my morning cup of hot stuff. Thank you for amazing content!

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it! :)

@Purgatory73 2 ай бұрын

Oh my god finally! A rare gem of a channel that is not same ol! Thank you and keep up the great content!

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Thank you and welcome aboard!

@kafon6368 2 ай бұрын

Amazing work, definitely one of the best channels for Roman history!

@robbabcock_ 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great presentation; it's particularly stunning in 4k! 👏⚔🎇

@jonbaxter2254 2 ай бұрын

Love these 3D vids of yours man. To be so close to the wilderness must have been like being on another planet...

@prolamer7 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great educational video!

@larsrons7937 2 ай бұрын

...and thank _YOU,_ Historia Militum, for your time and effort in creating this interesting, thought-provoking video for us. Super graphics. Good flow in the story. Cheers from Denmark.

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

You are most welcome. More to come! :)

@larsrons7937 2 ай бұрын

@@HistoriaMilitum I will be looking forward to it. 😊

@micahistory 2 ай бұрын

Cool video, I have never seen anyone go into this much depth on this subject!

@nickdreiath4010 2 ай бұрын

Epic video man! I can‘t believe the quality. Simply lovely 👊🏼

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

We are very glad you enjoyed!

@natedarosa3786 2 ай бұрын

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@vGalaxy1401 2 ай бұрын

Howdy, love your content

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@nevisstkitts8264 2 ай бұрын

6:02 redundancy = defense in depth, mutual-support + increased reliability; it calls back to the method of fortifying routes of march and logistic support during expansion

@tatianaprokhorova4111 2 ай бұрын

It is so neat to details, taking me inside to feel the vibe of those times...I forgot the present.. Thank you for your outstanding work!

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed!

@neilplace8522 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic vid! Thorough and detailed. Thanks

@RENATVS_IV 2 ай бұрын

Amazingly detailed video. Thank you for this quality content, once again

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Always glad to hear from you!

@user-cu3ok8ij5b 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video and very informative. The 3d rendering really adds to it.

@lawsonbrady2586 2 ай бұрын

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@matthewmatt5285 2 ай бұрын

The only videos that I wish were Longer : )

@aleksanderhristov7222 2 ай бұрын

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You sir got a follow just from this video alone 👏🏼 well done

@Ridingaroundandgettingit 2 ай бұрын

Great work

@qubla2 2 ай бұрын

"...in safety and peace.." under domination and servitude! Greetings from Germany

@calebroberts5422 2 ай бұрын

Love this channel as usual incredibly unique and interesting content .

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed!

@Deamonomnibusintenebris 2 ай бұрын

Great video!

@Miamcoline 2 ай бұрын

Super interesting and realistic depiction. Thanks

@georgecristiancripcia4819 2 ай бұрын

Very nice video

@philippschwartzerdt3431 2 ай бұрын

I like that you chose to have a similar music in the background as for the game “Pretorians” 🤔 It really creates a pleasant mood. 😉

@lachbullen8014 2 ай бұрын

I actually never knew that the Roman frontier was so complex I actually thought the Romans were light on natural barriers such as rivers in mountain...

@awkwardsaxon9418 2 ай бұрын

Mateo Pascual Music always takes me back :)

@cutsqwishsqwish3724 2 ай бұрын

Great video

@JohnSmith-jt5qr Ай бұрын

Thanks for using AD (and BC), so I can upvote you.

@adrianlouw2499 2 ай бұрын

Great video.

@aprilthunder 2 ай бұрын

Rome's INGENIOUS border defense strategy

@Marcus001 27 күн бұрын

Hadrian sure loved building walls

@lautaronavarra8226 2 ай бұрын

It would be interest a video of the romanization process of conquered territories. Love your vids 🤩

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

That would make a fascinating video actually... Thank you, I'll note it down!

@blazejdrazkowski1608 2 ай бұрын

Great video:)

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@soldier22881 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

You are most welcome :)

@danko6582 2 ай бұрын

It reminds me of the Great Wall of China and Hadrian's wall. More about keeping watch and facilitating reinforcement by a rapid reaction force than a trench line.

@tonyromano6220 2 ай бұрын

Wow!

@rubenmontaini7676 Ай бұрын

Bellissimo video, in più con la musica di Preatorians 😍😍

@Bolognabeef 2 ай бұрын

Damn that's impressive ngl

@brett.c1649 2 ай бұрын

So many similarities to my time in marine corps security forces pretty cool 😎

@RoniiNN 2 ай бұрын

Didn’t know there where fragment of letters of such mundane matters from the Roman era.

@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez 2 ай бұрын

There are thousands of documents that have survived. The only downside is that a huge part of them are either incomplete or very damaged for reconstructing the text inside.

@lachbullen8014 2 ай бұрын

I love Roman history and I have such a wonderful fascination... By the way what part of the Roman Empire do you generally focus on..

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the donation! I suppose our channel has a natural lean towards the late Republican and early principate period, because the sources are the most descriptive for that period. But we will always try to tackle other periods as well!

@etherealessence 2 ай бұрын

Add fort Saalburg to my list for a European trip. Thanks for the heads up.

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

You and me both! I thought the same when making the video, haha.

@mariadespina80 13 күн бұрын

The Danubian Limes, or Danube Limes, refers to the Roman military frontier or limes which lies along the River Danube in the present-day German state of Bavaria, in Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania the ancient DACIA , In UNESCO.

@EokaBeamer69 2 ай бұрын

As always very interesting video. However I would love to see a legend and scale added to your maps to make them more comprehensible. :)

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

A scale is actually a good idea... We will try to do that for the next one. What did you mean by the legend though? We had one for the forts which we color coded.

@EokaBeamer69 2 ай бұрын

@@HistoriaMilitum Oh right I missed that because it was not always visible. :) Well anyway keep up the good videos, I freaking love your channel.

@sarcasmo57 2 ай бұрын

That would be a life of adventure and monotony.

@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez 2 ай бұрын

On equal quantities XD

@user-xg3cq3by9n 2 ай бұрын

All difficult things have their origin in that which is easy, and great things in that which is small.

@KyoushaPumpItUp 2 ай бұрын

1:52 Ooh BGM from Praetorians game!

@CaptinLongdong1 2 ай бұрын

Please do a video on post-battle influence it had on the region. Did locals go and pick up all the gear and sell it? Use it? Barter?

@samym1694 2 ай бұрын

Yo I thought your gonna make vid about Part 3 of Dacian Wars or what Greek or Barbarian Battles looked like. I still wanted to know that some sources say that the Macedonian Phalanx protects whole unit from projectiles like arrows which doesn't make sense with their use of long but thin Sarissas & their small shield Pelta

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

We are actually working on those exact scripts right now; the Dacian wars and what greek battles looked like. But we wont include Macedonian combat yet, maybe next time! We have 2 other videos that will be released before them though.

@iandaniel1748 2 ай бұрын

I hope add how tower depends from attack or how hold battle and proper use tactics

@garypulliam3421 2 ай бұрын

16:15 "... to self-sustain themselves ..." 😂

@istoppedcaring6209 2 ай бұрын

its interesting to think how similar these are to US forts in function, they essentially protect roman interests abroad

@numberyellow Ай бұрын

This is how you defend a border.

@user-my9hg5hf9g 2 ай бұрын

Cherish your visions and your dreams as they are the children of your soul, the blueprints of your ultimate achievements.

@IosuamacaMhadaidh 2 ай бұрын

Hmmmmm... Good timing.😉

@nevisstkitts8264 2 ай бұрын

11:51 it seems the fortlets would employ an elevated structure for observation and communication with adjacent line-of-sight towers. The structure would not require the heavy construction of the independent watch and signal towers. Thus post and truss above an existing building would suffice. There is evidence that fortlets included towers in Ravenscar, Yorkshire, England where a fortlet was found to have a Latin inscription "Justinianus the First Centurion and Vindicianus the Magistrate built this tower and fortification from its foundations" Some speculate that fortlets would present a threat to any raiding party's ability to withdraw, particulary where the fort troops could march out and destroy improvised structures, boats or rafts necessary for exit past a body of water.

@The_ZeroLine 2 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone would ever think “a straight line of defenses would make more sense.” That’d be the type of thing someone with no idea of how to setup defensive bastions or lines would do.

@faustinoelia965 2 ай бұрын

Am still waiting for The Dacian war part 3😊😊

@salty82ndveteran 26 күн бұрын

This is one of the best channels I have accidentally found on KZfaq! I love how you break down the economics of ancient Rome! As an archaeologist I totally enjoy and support this channel.

@HistoriaMilitum 26 күн бұрын

Thank you, glad to have you onboard. We have many more to come!

@user-db8su6rj6s 2 ай бұрын

A man who doesn't trust himself can never really trust anyone else.

@CrunchyNorbert 2 ай бұрын

Rome was fighting a losing battle trying to hold the CEP against all the rest of Eurasia at the Rhine and Danube

@steiner554 15 күн бұрын

Imagine if the germanic tribes kept working together. They might have done far more damage. But they kept fighting amongst themselves and occasionally attack the border.

@paultyson4389 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. An excellent presentation.

@milanpavlovic2456 Ай бұрын

Why wasn't the Maine river a part of the Roman border ? It would be a more logical and natural defensive line and thus by making a continuous Rhine-Main-Danube river border it would increase the defense of the empire and reduce maintenance

@unifiedhorizons2663 Ай бұрын

Man image hanging out with boys and y’all like damn that’s a damn fine bath house then the massager soldier tell y’all gotta move destroy everything and move to the new fort god that be the worse I swear.

@loge7358 2 ай бұрын

What music did you use as the ambience?

@Proud2bGreek1 2 ай бұрын

From an old game called Praetorians. There's a youtube video with the entire soundtrack.

@user-ho7sp1cq5t 2 ай бұрын

wheres the link for the merch?

@HistoriaMilitum 2 ай бұрын

Just added it to the description. Thanks for the reminder!

@ciuyr2510 2 ай бұрын

When in doubt, build more towers & walls.

@The_ZeroLine 2 ай бұрын

Hard to see what an easily burned hundreds of miles long timber palisade would achieve. The Romans knew to use stone. So, I have to question that bit. Anyway, I like that Opera tab organizer.

@920WASHBURN 2 ай бұрын

Talk to me about life on the backtier and I'll be impressed

@ioanstef1983 Ай бұрын

They Should've Made Swamps There!

@davidgold5961 2 ай бұрын

9:47 create video. At 9 minutes and 47 seconds, the word maintenance is misspelled.

@_Bruno_Cesar_ 2 ай бұрын

18:14 In Latin America we refer to Germany as as Alemanha/Alemania. And the germans as Alemães/Alemanes. So... Its from these guys that this name came from. Since its the frontier that got occupied by them, i might be plausible to think this was an important tribe that the Romans got a lot of contact with. It might be from the events described on the video that originated the term, which is quite different from the english one.

@atlantic_love 2 ай бұрын

LOL, who cares what Latin America thinks of Germany or the Romans :)

@Dr.Yalex. 2 ай бұрын

7:16 Allowing FEWER forts and FEWER men...not "less forts" nor "less men"

@Sk0lzky 2 ай бұрын

Watchtower duty must've been hell. Probably boring as hell, cold (or too hot) and with garbage food, but when it stopped being boring there wasn't much you could do not to die a gruesome death (other than, perhaps, deserting in some cases)