ColinsEagleEyeView great portrayal of what the man was said to be

that is why he is my fav character :D

I work in maintenance at my job. We once had a super big wig manager that always wore a suit and tie who would walk past all the office workers that dressed nice and kissed his ass without saying a word and would always stop and shoot the breeze with us handymen. I loved it.

​@@blockmasterscott reminds me when the director I had, well dressed and around 50 years old, walked in and said to me in our sleng "what's up bro!?" :D

@@blockmasterscott I was a junior enlisted honor guardsmen getting ready to do a ceremony at some event. A navy admiral was the head guy there and walks through all the junior officers and civilians kissing his ass to shoot the shit with us for a few minutes. After we are in our ceremony uniform he asked if we would mind taking a picture with him, the lieutenant with him tries to intervene saying everyone is waiting on him and they need to hurry. The admiral cuts him off and tells him to go get the camera because he will be taking the picture.

Vorenus: (ravaged by depression) Marc Antony: *STAND TO FUCKING ATTENTION WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU*

@Gray Jedi It a great pep-talk!

Everything that is illegal exists. Stupid fucking meme.

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Masterful performance by James Purefoy.

Greatest Dude Bro depicted on TV, ever.

Loyalty hah! Marc Antony (as portrayed) simply was a self serving ascendant preying upon the pain of a man he saw as potentially useful. He wanted Vorenus around because he knew he was a good soldier. Vorenus repaid him with loyal service but Marc Antony was a selfish narcissist who didn't deserve him. To his credit, at the end, Antony realized all he had forsaken and he was not just a political snake but a force to be reckoned with and a great character in the series. It's impossible not to like him a little bit but this was not him being magnanimous but raw self interest.

He dropped everything to go see about Lucius Vorenus. Even though he was higher in rank than a General and Vorenus was a former Captain. Like a good friend would.

They paint a good picture of a populist leader in Mark Anthony. Rome was a brilliant series.

Allah Yarahmou InshAllah

What the guy who plays pullo is dead? No way

@@ironlungslc9529 A week before you posted this, age 58. Had no signs of illness beforehand. Fell ill on set in Italy, and was taken to hospital where he died the next day. We don't know of what. Too young, but a great career after Rome, including a primary upcoming role in Star Wars.

​@@squamish4244 Yes, after multiple COVID-19 "booster" shots. Experimental vaccine takes its toll.

damn, I can't believe Titus Pullo is dead

🤣🤣

SirrrrrrRrrRr

Sure does. That was a great scene.

It's translated to Eric Cartman's language respect my authoritah🤣🤣🤣

Classic 🤣🤣🤣

he was a prick but he was "our prick" im sure the troops would say something like that

He was probably like that. From all the documentary I saw, the guy was nut.

He was a lot better than Cicero portrayed him. That defined his picture in most history but Marc Anthony wasnt more elite and for his own gains than Cicero himself was, who was absurdedly rich like most Senators. Marc Anthony was a valliant soldier & general, trustworthy and loyal who even in Egypt wasnt as bad as he is portrayed but history is written by the winners and he lost. The last battle at sea was also bad luck. As a politician he had no real interest into it but his speech at Caesars deathbed showed how talented he really was. If he would have wanted he could have easily eliminated Octavian at several points but at the end was just tired and wanted to be left alone. After Caesar for quite some time he was the most talented leader.

When I read about Antony in Uni he seemed like a joke. I couldn't get why people cared. The show really made him make sense to me.

Great insight. Agreed!

That's what many people think while having a hangover.

Me when I look at myself in the mirror

That is the best reproach I think I have ever heard, anywhere

I guess he gave Vorenus a good account of his appearance.

Well said.

Always

@d R No it's great that they haven't continued it. If they made a season now it would be about black trannies that escape from the colosseum and start a communist fempire in the Greek mountains.

damn this was 20 yrs ago?

@d R For me a perfect sequel to this show would follow the third century crisis to the founding of Constantinople. Hell the season are already set in stone. First season could be about Aurelian and end at his death similar to that of ceaser, second could follow Diocletian trying to restore order, third could be about the reign of the Tetrarchy and the persecuting of the Christians and the rise of Constantine, fourth would follow Constantine’s conversion and the founding of Constantinople.

"Does it"? *Casually tosses

I know. Like how? Imagine being Vorenus’s neighbor and seeing Mark Antony going inside and minutes later you see a severed head get chucked outside his residence and hearing its loud thud. Would’ve made for some juicy gossip in that time lol!

@@adrianmunoz7646 Death was all around them, every day. Body parts were part of the background

lmfao fk i couldnt be that depressed to look at a dead head all day

And when he is reminded of his oath to the 13th.

Muscle memory

Some days, looking at the rotting head on my mantelpiece is the only thing which keeps me sane. I know how Vorenus felt.

His reaction was that because that is where his wife fell to her death.

Lmao his reaction is legit though. "Hey that's mine!!"

hahahhahahahaha

I think the memory of the avengement to Fulman gave him some sort of peace... at now he can't even have that

Possibly the same episode, he complained to Atia that being Consul and running Rome wasn't as much fun as he thought it would be. Mark Antony wasn't known for being a good politician or taking responsibility seriously. He showed up to the Senate drunk off his ass often enough.

mariusz sabadasz he got to kill two birds with one stone. They weren't just lowly soldiers but fairly famous in the 13th Legion and he interacted with them quite a bit. He also got Vorenus to solve the very problem he created when he killed Fullman and made a mess of the Aventine.

mariusz sabadasz the fact that he walked in rekindling their military relationship shows he understood Vorenus. Vorenus was technically a politician even though he was a mess right here. Rather than bringing that into the discussion, Antony went straight for Vorenus' stoic military mindset.

@mariusz sabadasz James (along with Kevin McKidd, who played Lucius Vorenus) has publicly stated he will never do Game of Thrones because "they stole our fucking show." "I won't be doing Game of Thrones, even if they ask me." Later, someone called him out on twitter about it, and he backtracked a bit saying he wasn't being too serious when he said that. But I sort of think he meant it since, ya know, he's never been on GOT and GOT has been good for the career of almost everyone on that show. Yes, I too would have loved to see Rome go 7 seasons, but the show was simply too far ahead of it's time and too expensive. The world wasn't ready for Rome the way it was ready for Game of Thrones.

He likes the “old ways.”

Gives me the chills every single time

yeah! he totally got him back by saying this.

He genuinely likes Vorenus, and also knew the language that he understands. Vorenus is a man who believes in a strict code of duty and honor.

And even a man of Antony's brashness has to genuinely respect a man with such a strict code of honor. Antony knows this man can be trusted-which is why he takes Vorenus back every time.

Great scene

i wouldn't call it charity. he was certainly loyal to his men but this was self interest - Vorenus was a loyal guy who Antony had massive leverage on after this moment. he was able to solve the huge problem of the gang warfare basically free of charge

@@manfrombritain6816 And have a loyal and trustworthy bodyguard.

Where do you think modern mob bosses got these tactics from? These were the original mafia. Get people to owe you

@@manfrombritain6816 I don't understand the obsession people have of imprinting cynicism in everything. Making it out as Mark Antony just being self-serving and manipulative doesn't help to make his character more complex, it flattens it. Even the worst human beings that ever lived showed genuine affection and unconditional love to a degree. I think Mark truly cared about his men, specially Vorenus. When he let him go to free his children he had literally nothing to gain by letting him go on a wild goose chase, yet did. I loved HBO Rome because no one character could be really pigeonholed into an archetype, some of the motivation for their actions were very ambiguous, e.g. realistic and human.

I agree, the writers wanted to show the audience that above all things Marc cared about his soldiers more than anything. A language they both understand, the community of the armed forces

Centuries later one of the Byzantine Emperors, Michael III “The Drunkard”, was described in similar terms as Marc Antony by historians of the usurping dynasty that succeeded Michael. Some actually think that Michael had Antony’s positive traits (his charisma and ability as a soldier) and that Antony’s negative traits were appropriated onto Michael as propaganda.

And men

Be sure he doesn’t drink. He may be poor company when he’s sober, but he’s better at his work.

I feel like some people don't get this if they weren't in the military... but that's typically what we are. When we join we're young, love the ladies, think we're invincible, drink and party way too much. No doubt a man like that could gain our/my loyalty. Add in that in the histories he's shown as a valiant commander and loyal to his men. That's really all the enlisted ask. If he speaks your language.. even better. Sure he probably shouldn't be an Emperor. And if I saw a commander act like he does in this scene for one of my men he'd have my absolute loyalty. Hell watching this 6+ years after I got out, if I saw a commander do this for one of mine I'd drop everything to follow. That shits badass

History needs to be handled with a long fork, as it is the victors who write it.

Very well said!

Excellent summary sir

Only men can understand that Antony is trying to pull him back to reality.

Nicely said !

I agree but if he had tried that on Pullo in a depressed state Anthony would have walked out without a head lol

At the height of his career :(

Now hold on,if you’re talking about Caesars’ speech,that wasn’t that good,that Marcus Antonius was something else,why didn’t he get an Emmy for this role?

@@walihenry4600 Caesars speech was good. The lines are seared into my head since I was a child. "The Republic is in the hands of madmen!"

Yes, it's a incredible detail.

yea, even after his wife died and family supposedly raped and killed, the XIII was still the ultimate

"I expect loyalty Vorenus. To the death." He told him when Vorenus sign for the evotati.

thank you for pointing out the most obvious shit. theres people on every movie and tv show clip thinking they are being deep and poignant with their observations

@@JM-bl3ih Thanks bro. Glad I am my contribution didn't go unnoticed.

gets me everytime

Are you man or mouse?!

i want to know... does he care about caesar, or is he a good actor.

Havockeer--Every military veteran jumps at that line. While they don't tend to use that language NOW, in my day, they did.

@@GustavoRodriguez-qr5po He sure did. Antony was lost after caesars death, as the show depicts.

Too bad he got manipulated by the women. In the start of the series he knew his place. He knew he was a soldier, and not a politican

@@vemundr9263 he got destroyed by his own selfishness, greed, and poor judgement. Typical men, blaming women for their own choices since, Adam and Eve.

@@vemundr9263 I hope you realize i was being ironic with my statement an answer to your ridiculous generalization. Anywayl, it takes two to tango. Interesting how you will blame Helen of Troy for sleeping around with dude who seduced her(despite him KNOWING she was married) but not blame Anthony when he falls for a seducer. What are you saying anyway? I never mentioned the Trojan war(which if it's true, was just a proxy war for conquest, Sparta wanted to invade them anyway, that was just a good excuse). Also, if as the legend goes, Paris had not been an idiot seducing and sleeping with some dude's wife, it wouldn't happen either. Not saying it's not more of her fault since she's the one married but in his case, he actually knew so it makes him almost as guilty. Why are we going off of movies anyway instead of actual historical records and documents? Plenty of the myriad of male rulers have fucked up as hard if not harder. Stupid people are an unavoidable part of life matter the gender.

@@vemundr9263All I'm reading is bad decisions after bad decisions trying to be salvaged as "bad luck." Anthony was always a hot head. Without Ceasar, he was basically nothing. There isn't usually much to gain except personal satisfaction when most people have affairs. Paris was still a colossal idiot too(go after the wife of a king with one of the most formidable armies at the time who as also been looking for an opportunity to start a war with your country then get surprised when a war happens over it). The Helen of Troy argument you brought up really isn't helping your case against women as being worst, so I'd ditch it if I were you.

@@iateyursandwiches "Typical men, blaming women for their own choices since, Adam and Eve." If you read the story both parties are at fault. Adam for listening to Eve and Eve suggesting evil to Adam. Women aren't free of responsibility despite what you say. Otherwise that is being a typical woman blaming men for everything that goes wrong.

Captainjack010 This deserves way more likes

I'm sure they'd been smelling it the whole time.

Just another day in Italy.

I laughed harder than I needed to at that statement😂😂😂😂😂

Just another Tuesday morning at the Vorenus household.

missyadams STANDTOFUCKINGATTENTIONWHENI'MTALKINGTOYOU!!! there, i fixed it

lol

Let's hope he gets some savage cunny up there! RIP

the guy is a Shakespearean grade actor, you get so much from so little.

I just like listening to the satisfying thud.

Wikipedia Intellectual omg it is satisfying!

Lol. His face: my precious rotting severed head!

Yes. He is crestfallen ​@@matthewdietzen6708

marco polo and the last kingdom

Mainly because much of the show was actual historical fact. It’s crazy so much of it actually happened. Reality is truly stranger than fiction.

Makes me want to kick fuck out of Agrippa to be fair .

@Gustav 1 wash your mouth out sir.

Lololol Rome doesnt even hold a candle to GoT in terms of writing, character development, production value, even the plots. I love Rome but goddamn the characters fall into writing stereotypes. Yes, there is history to back up the plot but imo that weakens the shows credibility even further because they dont have focus on the broadstrokes (world building mainly). That gives them more freedom to focus on the individual character arcs. GoT masterfully builds its own world, its own history, with extremely deeply fleshed out characters. Rome is a great show, but its characters are stuck in linear arcs that frankly are predictable. Pullo is the token party boy, Vorenus the token hard ass, Atia is the token evil bitch for no reason and Octavian is the token smart kid everyone underestimates.

Yep!! You can feel real authority right there. It's one of my favorite lines and reactions of the whole series. I love it that Vorenus truly responds with a muffled "Sir..." and stands straighter the moment Anthony talks about the Sacred Oath under the Standards of the XIII. For the Roman soldier the standards and eagles were truly sacred. A symbol of the power of Mars. A symbol of total respect and obedience.

Under the sacred oaths...don't forget that part :)

@alvi syahri Dīs Pater was a Roman god of the underworld. Dis was originally associated with fertile agricultural land and mineral wealth, and since those minerals came from underground, he was later equated with the chthonic deities Pluto (Hades) and Orcus.

Dis: "I am his master" Marc Antony: "You are not his master...I am his master" Dis: "Okay okay man whatever you say...just dont hurt me"

And I am the one who knocks.

Uhm, on the fields of battle, he handled a lot more than a simple rotting head. HA, see what I did there?

“I told him to get rid, but it calms him to look at the thing”.

All 3 of them have killed tons of men on the battlefield. A head wouldn't disturb any of them in the slightest.

Gary Daniel Mark antony gives zero fucks about the stench.

They probably just all had some severe case of ptsd.

Actually said soldier was the first spear Centurion one of the top five ranking men in the entire Legion

One of the most famous and loyal soldiers*

​@@dik56 when you're mark Antony's top guys, then you're his top guy okay. you're such a physical beast dude , I have no choice. but to make you a centurion of the harded cohort

@@nothingtoospiffy7913 he was more than that. He was prefect Evocati, first grade. Signing bonus of 9000 sesterces. Then later a magistrate of the Aventine, and very briefly a senator of Rome.

Actually this has a historical basis. Roman generals usually turned their former soldiers into clients and thus were very approacheable to them. Look up the Roman patronage system.

Yes, giving a friend what they need and not want they want. It doesn't always look pretty to people on the outside but it's anything but toxic. It's done from a place of love and it usually gets the job done!

Quite true. Brotherly love, appeal to virtue/values, honest dealings, and kicking one another's ass for your own good, lol. Good stuff.

@@deploribusrex4480 This is why I can't stand radical, man-hating, feminists. Buckle up cause this is probably gonna be a long one. The Twitter feminazi's simply can't understand masculinity, and masculine love for a brother so they label it as "toxic". It's always the same bs, the feminazi's of Twitter that want to "kill all men" just refuse to see the inherent virtues of masculine, brotherly love. They see two men who look out for each other, treat each other as brothers, say what the other needs to hear, not what they want to hear, give support to each other but in a no bs, tough love kind of way; and they immediately think, no, they immediately know, that those two men MUST be in a closeted, homosexuals relationship. The thought of two men who both love one another as brothers, even though they're not related is so alien to them, that their brains would explode if they didn't label them as gay, and in a relationship. This is where the virtue of masculinity can be seen. Most men are able to form friendships, and over time that friendship leads to the unconditional love both men feel for each other, without there being a romantic relationship at all. Women in general, but especially in the radical, woke, SJW, feminist community are incapable of unconditional love. If they love their romantic partner on a conditional basis, what chance is there for unconditional love in a friendship? My theory is put to the test when you see two close friends fight over something. If it's two men the fight will come to a head very quickly, and may even get physical. It almost always, and I'm talking like 99.9% almost always ends with the two men continuing their friendship. Often times their bond grows because of the fight, and the two men are able to become even closer friends. When two women fight on the other hand, it's never resolved quickly, and instead of a "toxic" fist fight the two men get in, the two women involve others, drawing clear battle lines, and go out of their way to hurt the other on a far more permanent, and devastating manner than a simple fist fight. Examples include lying about the other in order to damage their reputation, or infinitely worse, telling the truth about the other to completely destroy their reputation, and cost them another relationship in the process. I've seen quarreling women try, and succeed in getting the other fired from their jobs, and divorced from their spouse by telling the other woman's secrets. I've seen one woman try, and succeed in seducing the other woman's husband, resulting in a divorce. I've even seen a woman destroy another woman's relationship with their children by exposing the reason for the couples divorce, which was infidelity. The hurt husband didn't even want that out there because it not only embarrassed him, but also ruined the mother's relationship with her children. These actions on the part of two quarreling women who were once close friends clearly prove that most women are incapable of unconditional love in friendships, and I'm even going to go as far as saying all of the woke, SJW, "kill all men", feminists of Twitter are incapable of any type of unconditional love. I'm sorry for being so long-winded but this whole "toxic" masculinity thing really pisses me off. Masculinity has led to some of the most heroic things ever witnessed on this planet. The men storming the beaches of Normandy in WW2 did that because of masculinity, and it doesn't even have to be as dramatic as that. A father working 80 plus hours a week in order to support his family does that because of masculinity. The threat of a mother saying "if you don't stop I'm going to tell your father" only works if the father is a masculine man. Masculinity is so far removed from "toxic" that it truly boggles my mind to hear. When you add the visual of what these woke, Twitter, feminists look like to their message of "kill all men" and "toxic masculinity" you get a textbook, Psychology 101 example of projection. Saying "kill all men" is toxic. Saying that "we need to teach men NOT to rape women" is toxic. Convincing a child to try and kill themselves on the internet just because he was born with a Y-chromosome, and then hiding behind the defense of "oh it was just a joke" is toxic. Believing that anyone trying to shine a light on men's issues is a misogynist, and actively fighting for college campuses to not allow men's issue groups, and men's rights activist speakers on campus in order to silence them, thus preventing them from raising awareness to all of the issues most men are really struggling with right now is extremely toxic. This is what most men sit through, and are forced to deal with on a daily basis. I've seen numerous reports of transgendered people who made the decision to become men tell their story, and it's always the same, "now that I can pass for a biological man nobody cares about me anymore, nobody is willing to help me anymore, and if I dare complain about any of my mental health issues I'm told to 'man up' and I'm usually told that by biological women". One might see this and take from it that all femininity is toxic, but that's not right either. It's simply a case of balance, and the fact that our Western society is way too out of balance, and much too heavy on the virtues of feminine ideals. It's why everyone gets participation trophies, why entitlement is running rampant in both men and women, and why men are suffering from issues like failure to launch syndrome, unemployment, homelessness, drug use, their underperformance and underattendance at college universities, and the ever plummeting rates of new marriages, childbirth, and marriages actually ending successfully. I think the current way men are dealing with this will eventually lead to change. The red pill, and the MGTOW movements are increasing the rate of deceleration in commitment, marriage, and childbirth in the Western cultures. This will either result in change, and a balancing of the scales, or to the fall of Western civilization. Either way we won't be seeing any "kill all men" threads on Twitter anymore. I'm good with either.

​@@jamesteegardner2273 That's a pretty good analysis of our society in these trying times. I'm sure you've heard the saying, weak men create hard times, hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create weak men. We are the weak men and we're slowly seeing the disintegration of Western civilization because we've lost our traditional ideals. We have so many confused people and its showing in society, it's no wonder we have high cases of depression and suicide rate along with the other points you brought up. Society is so soft these days, there are so many snowflakes that create additional problems and see enemies everywhere to suit their narrative. These radical feminists have changed everything and they are supported by weak men who ultimately want to pander to these women. Modern feminism isn't about equality, it's about superiority and ironically its toxic. They want to keep men down and will use the very same phrases you mentioned to do it.

@@jamesteegardner2273 I disagree with you and I believe that toxic masculinity does exist, but what you have stated isn’t what feminists describe as “toxic masculinity.” Men should be able to express emotions and feelings, and if they are reserved for too long, it might led to a subconscious absorption of this toxicity which needs to be released. The idea that “Boys don’t cry.” Is an inundated concept that should be reserved to the confines of the trash can. Everyone at times needs empathy from their best friend when he’s going through something troubling in his life, and I believe it is my obligation as a friend to comfort him, not tell him to “Suck it up, Noah.”. Furthermore, the manner in which many men talk about women is not okay, and it’s best to be removed from our private conversations. Talking about a women’s natural features in suggestive and lustful terms is denigrating for both the woman and the man who is stating it.

Like a kid that gets his candy stolen.

Cast Away - nice reference :D

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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+blockmasterscott yeah, there's lots going on here. I think M.A. genuinely likes Vorenus, but that won't stop him from making use of him. Vorenus, a life long soldier and tough guy is falling apart under the pressure. M.A., big ballsy bastard that he is, walks in and in 3 minutes gets Vorenus back on path by giving him a new mission, gets the Aventine war straightened out and basically asserts the fact that he's got bigger balls than anyone in town and no lack of brains either.

+blockmasterscott yeah, there's lots going on here. I think M.A. genuinely likes Vorenus, but that won't stop him from making use of him. Vorenus, a life long soldier and tough guy is falling apart under the pressure. M.A., big ballsy bastard that he is, walks in and in 3 minutes gets Vorenus back on path by giving him a new mission, gets the Aventine war straightened out and basically asserts the fact that he's got bigger balls than anyone in town and no lack of brains either.

+Cya89 He's not in his right mind either though. So I could see him being a little skittish in the state that he is in.

blockmasterscott

Xavier Vega Agreed. Vorenus is crushed, but part of him is looking for a way out. That's the part that snaps to attention. Also the fact Cya89 isn't taking into consideration here is that the Roman legion was HUGE on discipline. If you didn't snap to attention to an officer, particularly one of Mark Anthony's rank you'd get the lash or worse and in that sense personality just doesn't enter into the equation. This would be drilled right into a lifetime regular soldier like Vorenus so his response would be almost instinctual.

Antony was at least an equal to Pompey. It was just his misfortune to live in the shadow of Julius Caesar and Augustus.

I read Ciceros writings while studying and took it as gospel first but going deeper into Roman History you realize it was a brilliant propaganda piece by an elitist self obsessed rethorical genius that did not reflect at all Anthonys persona but only the bias of a sheltered class to protect their status and wealth

@@listrahtes Pretty much. The modern idea of Roman democracy is a myth.

Hell yeah!!! “You may do as you well please,as for me, I will go north,& raise an army of monsters,& come back & kill these worms”🤣🤣🤣

Cleopatra and Egypt destroyed Antony for whatever reason…

Titus went to the only one he would listen to Jo's commanding officer

Imagine if your boss, one that you respect, or some other figure like that, came into your bedroom. You'd snap to attention too

I don't know how they would've pulled it off though. Very easy to mess it up and then it just ruins the show

Would of been a wonderful scene. Sadly I believe the time constrain on the production and staff prevent such a great moment.

@@Shatamx I agree.

Perhaps they didn't feel that they were up to that particular challenge? After all, Shakespeare's version is among his very best writing. And Marlon Brando's performance of it is pure brilliance. Maybe they wanted to avoid the inevitable comparisons people would have made?

The second season was highly condensed from the intended remaining 4 seasons, so it's likely that they'd planned it and it got cut for time.

Well then...

Kind of statement Jesus could have made. Not so menacingly obviously.

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perfect cadence.

@Goliath Online "Could have been a ditch in Gaul .. not here.. where men who rode with Alexander once stood."

It's "couldn't give two shits" Giving two shits means he cares... Just a lil bit

@@howardchambers9679 dude stfu you fucking loser.

@@truegrit9202 aww did I upset you a ickle bit? Oh well, I'll get over it.

@@howardchambers9679 lol i like how someone got triggered by someone correcting a sentence...it was actually helpful and i just increased my vocab

Correct, but rather simplistic.

ofcourse, especially when they beat someone to death in the barracks, not officers the grunts but grunts the grunts, criminals, and the higher ups turn the blind eye to it

or when they were sent to donbass and their families never knew what happened to them, and later on received letters that they died during an accident in training... bollocks

same here brother

But don't dare to say 'bromance'. It's gonna makes me chill.

they used word SIR over 100 times.... in ancient Rome... or we just ignore it ?

The whole "Cleopatra charmed Antony/Caesar" thing is a historical meme with little basis in reality. In fact, the entire thing started as propaganda by Octavian himself to turn Rome against Antony. Cleopatra and Antony were equal partners in their power grab, and honestly, they both knew Octavian wanted them out of the game, so them teaming up(and falling in love) in a bid to survive makes sense. Both Cleopatra and Antony were intelligent and ambitious leaders. Love them or hate them, characterizing the whole affair as Antony thinking with his cock like an idiot is reductive and historically inaccurate.

Thots have been the ruin of many a great man.

Yess... Imagine the creator of the show wanted to do like two or three more seasons with Anthony ruling Egypt and his campaigns in Parthia. Imagined how awesome would that have been

Sorry but no... Anthony was not a great orator/tactician, Caesar was. Now, Anthony was a great soldier, under Caesar. Caesar did rely on him, despite Anthony's misfortune.

Anthony was super piss since Octavian fail to send promised reinforcements to him during his Parthian campaign. Anthony ultimately the case of "either die a hero or live long enough to become to see oneself becomes a villain".

LegionarioPersa he respects Vorenus

That will do the trick. Nice thinking.

Absolutely.

If you figure out how I’d like to know!

It was his gangsta name, he probably made it up as he was wanted under his real name.

Best fuckin line, and that says a lot, there was so many great lines spoken here

that is a appropriate state to fall into when you find out your kids were raped, butchered and thrown into the river.

The best generals have always understood this. Napoleon had tremendous respect for "les grognards" of the Old Guard.

You mean 'fackin' city 🤣...brilliant dialog. I love this series

Right?

I damn near snapped up so fast hadda catch my self

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I am no classical scholar. But I suppose the pertinent response here would be this: was Ocatavian/Caesar Augustus ever really capable of working with anyone else who was on the same level as him?

@@donaldelfreth553 Yes he was actually. Marcus Agrippa comes to mind as he was a strong & athletic military man. While yes he & Augustus were friends since childhood, Augustus did have his suspicions of Agrippa seizing power as he became wildly popular with the people & army, but never had him killed as Agrippa displayed an unimaginable amount of loyalty & Augustus immediately put his suspicions to rest knowing he had a true friend that he didn’t even to be worried about & was even devastated beyond reason when he heard Agrippa had died in 12BC & personally accompanied his friends corpse back to Rome

This would be perfect for my alarm

Both Mark Anthony and Vorenus were suffering from PTSD. Vorenus recognized it (even told Mark Anthony), but did not know the cure.

What's a PTSD?

Well Julius Ceasar comes to Vorenus's house too. Popular guy.

There was no reason to prevent Anthony from killing himself. His entire world was shattered and Octavian was going to kill him anyway. Better to die on your own terms than be the subject of a triumph like Vercingetrix

Marc Antony was despised by Octavian by the end. He would have absolutely hung Marc Antony and Cleopatra in Rome had he gotten the chance. That would have been his big moment, his “Caesar” moment, the moment to do what Caesar had just done 15 years earlier.

Also, Lepidus´s men deserted him to join Mark Anthony. Troops liked him.