Never was family

Especially when they are the same hue as you

Periodt

They aren't family though they are just friends and not even friends they are industry friends and when money and Ego's get involved it's a wrap!

@@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551 Do you know them?

Exactly cause Mal being very bias atp. He's speaking from hurt or something cause he can't believe what he's saying. Mal better than this frfr.

Facts this is a hard watch smh.Mal got no common sense on any subjects coming to Joe. I don't watch the podcast but I can tell it's the same old emotions and to cool for school. Wish them the best

Rory actually being PROFESSIONAL

@@tashalove439 ayo Tasha, how much for u too Ride my Meat Package until the sauce blasts out like water from a broken fire hydrant

What are y'all talking about?! Mal was very PC. He made valid points. It's a conversation, just because he doesn't agree,. doesn't mean He's biased or being shady because it's Joe. The remaining two members of slaughterhouse should be able to profit off of a group they were apart of. Period

Not necessarily, Joe and Rory met 4 years before they even started business dealings together

@@ashleyb4549 yeahhh Rory and Joe were friends not like Joe and Mal but they hung out and was there for each other

It’s more like this. Rory and Joe were friends. Mal and Joe were friends and were very close and even lived together.

Bro Mal was in them old love and hip hop episodes he was Joe’s friend since before the podcast

@@MyWORDisntGospel Mal used to treat Rory like trash for the first hundred episodes .

I would too

Warranted tho

@@FrugalFa 100%

@@FrugalFa I disagree because he's giving us female tendencies. Not a good look coming from the man he claims to be

@@amareshkaimal2972 I don't see why

Big facts!

Yea mal is super biased on this topic🤦🏽‍♂️

1,000% agree. At this point I don’t even think Mal believes his own stance. If it were the other 2 slaughter house members doing this I guarantee Mal’s stance would be the opposite

You also have to realize both Mal and Rory know way more about this situation than they speaking on... Hell Joe joked once on the old pod that Mal was the reason slaughter house broke up...

With Mal being like 40, you would expect him to be able to take his own personal emotions out of a debate about legal circumstances

Word!! He sassy as hell

He turned into a chick in this interview..... disgusting

As he should. Screw Joe!

Zesty 😄

Lmao

I was wondering why no discussion of the business side taking place in a minority of the conversation. If any. I stopped listening to the repeat of -I see both sides before this comment.

He gotta cut it out. I liked him but he changed before they left the pod. I feel like Rory worked real jobs before Mal doesn’t understand business. Why just because you know me you think we would be equal partners. They are not equal names The brand Joe Budden has had million in marketing dollars invested into his name and likeness. Then Joe gave these dudes a shot. I think they were just more so embarrassed. They found out Joe had a Spotify deal not them. Joe was telling them they legally can reuse the content to branch out. Joe tried to get these guys to have they own podcast for years why are we avoiding that?

Sure you make some fair points and they acknowledged some of those, but it's beyond business, Joe leveraged there friendship to take advantage of them and keep them in his box, when they got hip to the play is when the issue started way before it got to the public, and they have to take accountability for trusting in someone they though was a friend in business, Joe is a master deceiver you can hear it every time he speaks, both things can be true, the fact they didn't handle business because they allowed themselves to be blind to who Joe truly is a snake because he got snaked

Well joe doesn't honor contracts so if it's true then so can Crook & Joell & they can do their own thing.

Joe's word means very little if he sued for anything. He said he "breaks contracts all the time" so he should not have any problem with this record.

He attempted to not show the jadedness at least, he did his best. Things take time to mend especially when its that close

Scorned ex? Joe and Royce didn't want todo the album. Joel and Crooked went ahead and done one. They was offered the opportunity. Joe Budden is mad he can't control the other two that all.

Why he gotta be playing upset ex… why he can’t have his opinion. I fully agree with Mal.

He is human right?

Mal speaking nothing but facts, Sounds like Rory scared of speaking his mind imo, sounds like a bitch to me, how can you agree with both parties? One is right and one is wrong end of... Royce and Joe basically said fuck you to the fan base probably because they thought it wouldn't be profitable enough for them and now they're mad because Joell and Crook are trying to give something to the fans 🤷‍♂️

The words “does something to you” Joe didn’t do anything to you

@@Qleverett didn’t pay him what he’s contractually owed

It'd be weird for Joe to start caring about what a contract says when he said the things he said to crooked on their pull up interview.

Joe has literally told crook to his face Idgaf about contracts during their pull up. There were no possible solutions in the situation. I don't think they would go into this if they could face legal repercussions.

Well the burnt pig isn’t the pig and they aren’t going on a slaughterhouse run they are saying their peace on slaughterhouse. Their next album wont be slaughterhouse so they did nothing wrong. And as Rory said if anything they upped the value of slaughterhouse of actually rapping

IVE said the same. Real SH fans want all 4 back together ALWAYS AND ESPECIALLY JOE lol SH fans are a hard-core group and will NEVER leave.. I'm speaking as one and if they made up and put out an Album it would EASILY be a Classic and possibly charted again lol Everybody wanna hear Joe rap again cmon lol 😆

"My aura is beautiful" Turned out to be horseshit.. He throws shots every chance he gets but when the shit happened with JB and he should've talked, he had nothing to say

😂😂

@@Wavy_Potts he used to be a real one on stream but I stopped taking him serious completely when he did his nails. How you gonna speak on being a real man, and have pink nails?

Mal always been corny like that

@@nxt1990 his nails are naturally pink lol. He doesn't add paint

They have, but they wanted to give fans closure which the other two didn't want to do.

It makes complete sense to not want to drop something you built just because someone else who helped dropped out of it tho.

Facts

They have been quite about the business for 10 years ...this is for the fans of the house it's not a f.u. diss it's a bio about it

@@jwayne817 so why not do it on there own album??? They already had done a record that didn’t have the slaughterhouse name or logo attached to it why do this now I can see if they had 3 of the 4 but this is not going to be anything but a diss record

Meanwhile the whole time in this clip he was trying to maintain consistency

Damn. I ain’t even peep that one…

Sounds like karma

Mal is the most inconsistent man on the planet. And also has terrible sports takes.

Booooo😂

It was too petty not to be true

It's definitely true which hurts more

I see what you did here.🤣🤣

Especially if he’s talking about thumb being in asses like whaaa ?

I appreciate Mal for stating FACTS.

@@TGA19 lmaoo

@@bringinthedope5929 I appreciate this Cocaine I'm bout too Cook rn into Crack Rock oh I'm more then thankful

@@TGA19 how is he stating facts?? He sounds salty if anything

@@louvelazquez2373 Because the other three guys have just as much right to slaughterhouse as Joe does.

Thats not how business works at all lmao. Man yall stupid.

@@jonathanjacobs1870 that is literally how business work lmao you clearly don’t know business. You can’t make decisions without the other owners voice. If they are equal owners of something you can sue.

@@jayagainsthumanity easy to tell yall dont own shit.

Unfortunately brother that’s not how law or finically obligated businesses work. i.e. If and individual retires owning 1/4 of a company and the 3 remaining parties discuss potential business moves 2/3 out number the remaining parties.

@@jonathanjacobs1870 Easy to tell you don’t know the law or even have a degree in business. Google right there my guy 😂

Dre left NWA and created Aftermath, how wack would it be if he still used the NWA logo and brand without the crew. Rory and Mal managed to create their thing how dumb would it be if they still called themselves JPB or the new JPB, having ur personal brand developed is always the best thing and the least messy root to take.

@@glcsander exactly

Exactly! How hard is that to understand. You just can’t use that brand if the group is dismantled and all 4 members owned a portion. These Internet PODS think we are Dummies or something. SMH

@@bzharris3040 Mal is bitter because of what happen between Joe and him

Bingo

he’s an ex (pause)…he’s an ex friend. his perspective is solely from that 🤷🏾‍♂️

Mal has a valid reason to still feel how he feels tbh … Rory & Joe was nowhere near as close as Mal & Joe were

Mal & joe were real friends who lived together compared to Rory & joe’s friendship. Mal always said he was operating on friendship over business for Rory prolly the same but the years were not there & he understands business is business and it is what it is.

@@GLIMPSE_00 Mal wasn't a real friend. Him taking subliminal shots at Joe's fanbase shows how he always felt about Joe Budden secretly. He showed this same animosity when he came out in the response video.

@@cbenji07 very true very true, I always felt like they always just had that tension even before this

THAT part!!

Bump

Facts!!

Mal is a sucker lol

Mind fucking blowing

Mal isn’t right at all lol.

Facts!! That’s exactly he saying what he saying.. his view his shady and bias

🤔

Damn he sided with his own brother damn how surprising the fuck

@@kjj2656 shit went over your head huh and you cherrypicked

*gasp*Mal not being objective when it comes to Jay? Has that ever happened before?

It's just entertainment.

Mal is right. No saltiness. Blacks always take the side of the more popular parties. They have a right to use it, if they are owners. Period.

@@marcelmarshall4240 did not say they don’t have a right to use it. But Joe and Royce have a right to feel a way too, so Mal saying why they should not be upset comes from a place of not knowing shit about building something from its inception. Rory has a better understanding than Mal does

@@marcelmarshall4240 nah when multiple owners are involved majority have to agree.

@@Stratagee6 maybe royce but joe is a big part of the reason the group is were it is today always beefing with people in his business circles and burning bridges that effect everyone else joe might have help build it but what does that mean if you set the shit alight

Which one do you agree with?

yeah I think Joe mention like if Mal and Rory didn't show are we supposed to not do the show since you guys didn't show up. thats why he called ice and ish

I'll go work

Id rather work

It's over

100%

Man no cares bro lmao why is this a comment

🎯🎯🎯

Yeah everyone is calling mal childish & they may be true but Joe’s decision to retire shouldn’t impact the others

REALIST COMMENT IN THIS COMMENT SECTION

Legally he does

@@nicoclipz91 that kind of legal stuff is more or less arbitrary. Fuck what a piece of paper says

They have Right to name it whatever they want

The intro to the topic, the Segway into the details of the topic. It definitely sounded awkward. Like they weren’t supposed to be touching on the subject in the first place.

Weird asl

You can tell how hard they tried to not say his name lol

Mad Facts

You don't agree with him so you're just saying he's bias without any proof to discredit him.

I mean he knew Joe the longest... They were actual roommates back in the day

Facts

You don't agree with him so you're just saying he's bias without any proof to discredit him.

doesnt change the fact that he is right

Lol. When someone shows you who they are, you damn right you gonna be biased! It’s a pattern

Basically, slaughterhouse is all 4, if they want to make a group, call it two the hard way with your own logo and sell it. But to sell it as a slaughterhouse themed album airing out business, I can see Joe and Royce's point.

Agreed

@@kyrianb naaa mal is right if they approached them 2 about doing it and them not wanting to then its ok to use the brand name

That’s always lol. Mal is a tad dense

@Kyrian Washington 🤣 Its funny how folks don't see how this is Joe's fault. We've waited for years for one man who's said multiple times he's retired and doesn't wanna rap anymore. Now he wants to cry wolf bc some how you wanna rap 🤔

Rory wanna be a nigga

Idk if I wait for you to do something for years... Eventually imma just do what I want

Rory’s was right.

Legally yes. Morally no. Joe has a lane. He clearly hasn’t been interested. Let them do their thing and salute them.

I don’t know, I feel like Rory got the Stockholm syndrome when it comes to Joe Budden…

Mal was also the same one when joe said he had to keep the show going that he thought that was suckua shit, and that he believed if one part of the group wasn’t there that the show should be stopped until everything was resolved, but that’s us Humans being hypocritical at our finest

Super cop out. He clearly was NOT with the shits and used Joe as an excuse.

@@babufits1584 Royce made it clear to every party that if one part was missing no matter who, that it would not be a slaughterhouse album, he has been very consistent

and royce said it was also dead. So them getting mad right now is stupid. A fan EVEN retweeted Royce's "SH is dead" tweet back at him and royce tried to spin it as something else.

@@kosisoonwordi8455 you joe stans are THE worst. two completely different situations, nobody ever said they didnt want to pod no more

Yea Mal forsure sounded burnt out. Like Rory said just go rap bro. You don't have to name your album this or put the slaughterhouse logo thats really corney

They are. They're not calling themselves "slaughterhouse", they made a song together

@Captain Anarchy they are selling merch with the SH branding. They are profiting off the name. Petty sure but from a business standpoint, it's a slippery slope.

@@MrJblazini Not really. They're 2 of the creators of the brand.

They could capitalize crazy off of this if they could just work together one more time

For 1 album only

Nah, you leave your boys behind and don’t want them to get they money without you. They all grown men. They can do what they want

@@jackstone77 facts

That’s what makes a good podcast 🤷🏽‍♂️

Nah you just don't agree with mal so you have to make up shit to discredit him

@@omari436 fam this is like the 3rd comment u said this on. mal get off ya burner my g

Bruh Joe tried to make it seem like Mal was a total weirdo and creep. He told the world when everyone was looking that Mal hides laundry detergent lmao. Mal got free shots for life.

Literally every human being that swears they let things go never let things go..

That's a Joe Budden album

Perfectly said I agree lol

A bitter ex lmao

That's ok.

I Agree

I see a lot of weirdos online that must let people take advantage of them and go about they’re happy way. And until Royce and Joe successfully win a legal battle it’s all just opinion. Nobody on here presides over court cases.

Even starlito and don trip... star said we may fall out but we never switch sides ... its hard to keep a group together... shit my group did the same thing people went they way and we nobody's that was tryna get there like a million different people smh said

The Lox was Day 1 neggas tho Royce & Joe & Crook were all successful solo MC’s the weakest link in that group has always been Joel who’s the loudest of em all & really needs to eat because the other 3 Names are already a brand at this point Joel needs this nobody else

Thank u

People get it

That would be WILD

That would be good

Corny

Naw that’s going to be a bad look. Especially long term

It’s a bad idea. JBP stans will try to spin that as an anti-Joe Budden campaign.

😂😂😂

Best comment. Would be big and beneficial for everybody, even Joe lmao.

@Gabriel Ybarra 🤣🤣🤣

That would be lame as hell lol

@Gabriel Ybarra Joe is a self proclaimed hater. He’s also a cornball. All these dudes are cornballs. I want to be entertained. That’s all I care about.

@Gabriel Ybarra corny is you and joe's assssss 🤣and joe's rejects ? wtf is that ? you must have podcasts in your mp3 😂

💯

Class act for speaking on your enemy? How? Thats low hanging fruit if anything

@@ddelsur2694 😂😂

He Really Is Smfh like woww

Thought was the only one who noticed

Of course he’s in his feelings, Joe was his friend for like 15 years.

He’s been in his feelings.. won’t ever leave it.

He is 100% in his feelings 😂😂😂

Y’all have the lowest standards that shit corny asf

@Peter Parker music is subjective millions think elvis is the king of rock n roll but chuck berry was better in every way.

It’s a Joe Budden diss album.

@@PeterParkedHer grow up my guy, stop trying to feel superior because you don't like something other people do like.

@@bammymaxwell2587 it’s has nothing to do with a superiority complex stop the projecting. This is simply about men who used to collaborate 2 of them have found success doing others things and the other two are caught up on something that never happened. They reasons why are irrelevant. You “fans” are selfish and only care to consume music this shit is the corniest shit in hip hop. Move on and stop trying to win off the strength of another man

“GET ‘EM!!!!”

This right here nails the hypocrisy in Mal

Best comment on here

Yeah that is exactly what happen when Mal wouldn't pod. He was mad LMAO

U do know the pod was changed way after the pod took off right? It wasnt called the joe budden podcast at first. So this comment falls flat

I can’t be around ppl like that. I been knew about Joe, but noticed Royce was the same way during the whole Mickey Factz situation. I don’t understand how anyone n their right mind would do business with either one of them, esp Joe Budden foh

Bruh, that live with Joe and Royce... They gaslit the fuck outta Joell! They were so condescending and dismissive. I 100% expected that from Joe, but not Royce. Shit was sad.

@@babufits1584 yeah man, they ganged up on Mickey Factz the same way. Das why he cooked Royce with “Wraith” lol

I wish Crook was there. It would have been a different live completely.

Joe was gonna come back to rap

He doesn’t have yes Men now🤷🏽‍♀️

@@nicolebabi1314 ok

@@aparedes1122 honestly that’s what I enjoy. They will actually never agree 75% of the time.

@@nicolebabi1314 ish definitely really challenges joe

@@nicolebabi1314 🧢

Big facts 😂

What situation was similar to this with jay when someone retired and someone else didn’t want to do something unless the person who retired is part of it

@@kjj2656 not the retirement part but the brand part. When Dame didn't wanna split Roc but Jay didn't wanna stay on Roc and go become president of def jam. Splitting the artist from roc between Jay and Dame its part of how Beans and the falling out

@@burnx237 Biggs went with Dame too therefore mal was with them

i don’t see why he can’t be. i think he’s obligated to plus rory is being the devils advocate & lets face it they both have the right to.

@@Fac333 That makes no sense

@@juviethegroovy facts a real nigga would have been over that shit a week later like when mall told joe he gave him 7 days to get over his break up with cyn

It’s very obvious

@@juviethegroovy Mal & joe were damn near brothers the all those years down the drain over money yeah hes gonna be bitter ?

yea a long time friend treat you like that you don't forgive and forget easy

also gotta realize him and joe go way further back then rorys relationship with joe. it takes time, just because he is in the public eye with this podcast you cant put a time limit on his dealing with his own emotions

Still tho, he's stating facts. The fans deserve closure and I'm glad that they're trying to do that.

Of course why wouldn’t it be

That's joe misinformed at times

He's right. If I build something FOR YEARS with somebody and they drop out. I'm not starting over. I'ma continue this brand, you do whatever you want

Mal got betrayed way harder than Rory though

hes a child,40 years old still pretending he dont dye his beard

@@henkhenkste6076 I don't know. Rory and Mal both had two different friendships with Joe. Mal lived with Joe, and Rory was buying outfits for Joe's son out of love for his friend. So, I can't say who got betrayed more.

@@shesbaldbutiwould Mal pretends not to do a lot of things. We all know better tho... Lol

@@hovae10 i know,40 years old though smh

They not playing bro... U bugging

That part

Would be wild if they are playing us.

I was thinking the same shit bro.....I'm probably wrong lol.....but it's just what my gut is telling me

Joe's business never is right he got a crazy history remember when they did their first episode rory was saying people were asking them why are yall going into business with Joe at that same time joe was being asked to honor his shady contract by crook

Funny how it comes full circle!

the funny from JBP left when mal did lol. that shit so srs now

Mal emotions making him sound stupid on this.

@@TommyFLO In what way?

@@mell6481 he’s being salty

@treesh slayer ice n ish didn’t let Joe pop off on the last pod. Wym? I don’t have their Patreon then idc if they funny there. The new mal pod way better

Dude’s done the same shit since back when he joined the old pod

Mal always did that tho. He strings three statements together that mean the same shit and it always sound like he saying some profound shit. Shit like "He's making more money now, he's in a different place in his life, he's successful, no longer struggling...."

I just want to see him and Rory win and you can tell that hes not taking it as serious as he should…..like he can just cool his way into a successful podcast. Say what you want to about Joe, but he knows how to entertain and articulate himself well even if hes full of shit most of the time

@@richarddavis3412 I think the cool act is to mask the lack of substance

Yea ... He could articulate himself way better

They clearly didnt wanna do it. Joe has been saying for years he has retired from rap, I don't see why that would only apply to his personal career and not also Slaughterhouse. Joell and Crook both say Royce then said he wouldn't do it without Joe and Royce didnt seem to disagree with that statement, so they really showed through their actions (and even their words) that they werent going to do it.

@@cnsmooth facts....and then Crook went and got them what he claims to be a fire deal and still nothing. Joe always says on his pod that he don't rap anymore. Royce said he don't wanna do it without Joe. Seems fairly clear to me. Sad, but clear!

@@cnsmooth he said on the live he would tell the fans he was retired but he was waiting for the right situation

@@cnsmooth Joe said on the live I tell the public I’m retired but I’ve always told the group not until we’re off shady .

@@foursup3139 and they were off shady and he was still dragging his feet. Nothing n about his actions show he wanted to rap and he didn't call Crooked to discuss it despite saying he would. He would've left them in limbo for years whilst he was collecting his pod money

Those are both different things.

He said the last part on episode 177 when he was dissing Em. The 1st part was episode 420 something when Rory and Mal 1st came back and discussed their fallout. Honestly when he said he didn’t owe his friends respect, Mr. “Integrity” Mal shoulda left then. He was so quiet when I go back and listen. He said respect like 30x that’s it.