a mildly interesting thing about Pacific Rim is that Del Toro wanted the kaiju to be designed with human proportions in mind, so that a human could fit into a suit version.

Rossatron I do respect your opinion on kotm, but heavily disagree with it. They use the soundtrack to emphasize the majesty of Godzilla and the other Titans. They also used locations, such as the temple of the moth and the underwater city to capture the godlike essence of the Titans. While I will agree that the humans weren't the most develop, but that was the point because the Titans were the main characters. Still love your videos man, I just disagree with you on this.

Respect your opinion, but KotM brought Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan roaring back to life with more personality and majesty than they've had in decades. And the music, holy shit. Rodan's theme gets better each time I hear it.

But where is Clifford the Big Red Dog?

wait wait wait...people didn't like King of the Monsters? fuck i loved it. its plot felt like somthine out of the Showa series but the context of what was going on was being taken seriously. hell you could have replaced that Eco-Terrorist group with Aliens and say King Ghidorah was their monster and the move still works. weather thats good or bad, i don't know, im just saying it felt like a Showa Godzilla The inclusion of Akira Fubuke's music in Kotm was the fucking icing on top for me, finally got an american film with the big G's Theme

Rossatron is the Kaiju of my KZfaq subscriptions. a strange creature that emerges every so often to inspire shock and awe and teach us all a valuable lesson.

I’m going to get reemed for this: I like KOTM ‘19 far more than Gareth Edwards’ Godzilla and Shin. But that’s because I actually prefer a balance between light and dark. I wasn’t invested in the human characters, but they weren’t a vacuum for me and the fully CG-generated monster scenes captured what I love about the franchise (and Japanese monster movies as a whole) with no practical effects in sight after years of swearing to myself that I would never accept a fully CGI Kaiju flick. That said, your views on G’14 are making me want to re-evaluate my emotions. EDIT: I recently rewatched Shin and came out of it with much warmer feelings on it than I had before. The problem I had the first time was that I was too focused on individual characters (and their on-screen job titles) to notice that this was basically a contrast between the outright ludicrousness of a giant monster attacking Japan and the all too real bureaucratic approach of ANY government to a natural disaster. Watching that juxtaposition between the fantastic and the boring just worked in a way that’s hard to verbally explain but is an immensely more enjoyable approach to a more “grounded” take on Kaiju media than most media for me.

Honestly the most powerful scenes in KOTM was the scene where Godzilla first appears underwater and when serizowa dies, the second other people can explain better, but the first is amazing simply for the fact that there is no music in the scene, Godzilla is distant enough that you feel the tension of the characters, the way he communicates like an actual animal is amazing and when he sees them as an enemy, fools them by disappearing, and then reappears to give them a warning sign is so amazing I actually wasn’t expecting it

Man I need to rewatch Pacific Rim. Great video!

Time to watch Kong Skull island, Pacific Rim, shin Godzilla, Godzilla 2014, and king of the monsters!

Visually and sensibly, to me the '14 godzilla is still feels to be the grandest, most god-like one yet, Gareth Edwards really knows his stuff and did Big-G justice in a way where no one has did for decades. so many scenes/shots from '14 movies were burned into my memory.

9:00 I don't know what version of KotM you saw, but I got plenty of scale and majesty. Mothra in particular was absolutely spectacular, and caused me to nearly cry with the sheer beauty of most of her scenes. Edit: Aside from this one point, and the stuff on Showa era Godzilla, which I personally feel at least some of which are required viewing, great video.

King of the Monsters was Very respectful of the kaiju and Godzilla franchise, no idea what you're smoking

For anyone who hasn't seen Shin Godzilla yet, please do. It's as close to the original Godzilla as it gets and it's awesome

It's funny, I loved every second of godzilla king of monsters. One of the few times I've disagreed with you.

I understand where ya coming from. True the majority of Kaiju films is where humans are the driving force to the plot, and in some ways have a fear/ connection to the creature that revolves around the narrative. As for KOTM, though the human elements were below average, but it's still a enjoyable film in my opinion. You can say in some ways that it is a love letter to the Godzilla franchise directed by a fan.

A Godzilla movie is NOT about the people It's about the monsters

1. Cool design 2. Cool backstory 3. Cool special attack 4. Good cgi 5. Powerfull There you get the rules of what makes a good kaiju

Bryan Cranston was in 5% of the 2014 film. The stuff with him and his wife was good, but that was all in the prologue. No other human characters or storylines in that film are worth a damn. I agree about Shin Gojira though. Gareth Edwards is great with effects, but his people leave no impact whatsoever.

I don't think you understood the criticisms of the Gareth Edwards film. It wasn't simply that the film focused too much on the human characters (even if there were people who made that argument), it was that the human characters in question sucked. The most interesting character was the one played by Bryan Cranston, and they killed him off for shock value. Aaron Taylor-Johnson is nowhere near as charismatic or interesting as he was (or at least the character wasn't), and worst of all his role in the story was largely just to be a pinball protagonist who went where the plot needed him to no matter how contrived it made it, just so he could be involved in or bare witness to monster action or when things went wrong, similar to Brad Pitt in World War Z. Ken Watanabe was an exposition machine and Elizabeth Olsen was just "there". Beyond that there were plot holes you could walk King Kong through (like the entire third act with the nuclear bomb), and of course the film constantly teased us with big monster fights only to cut almost every time it started like it was playing a prank on us. There was also the fact that the trailers were extremely popular but generally promised a solo Godzilla film in the vein of the original where he is the main threat, and the MUTOs were unexpected and perhaps seen as a distraction. They were always planning on the sequel having lots of monsters in it and therefore always planning on it having lots more monster action, so I don't think KotM was quite as much a response to the first movie as you do. It no doubt influenced things, but it was likely always going to go in a similar direction.

What makes a great kaiju movie? Have the movie understand and respect its kaiju as characters. Not just mindless beasts out for destruction, but actual characters with motivations, personalities and Arcs. To quote John Hammond from Jurassic Park "these creatures require our absence to survive, not our help. If we can only step aside and trust in nature. Life will find a way."

There is a lot of scale and majesty in the new Godzilla film. And I agree that Godzilla 2014 got the God aspect right, but the human characters (besides Brian Cranston’s character) were not interesting and I didn’t like that it focused on them.

You nailed what makes a great movie kaiju! Like you said, people didn’t enjoy the human characters in Godzilla 2014, but I loved it and felt they gave Goji and the M.U.T.Os weight. By the way, I saw the movie when I was 8, and enjoyed the characters even at that time

I disagree to your Review of KOTM, They made the Titans look Majestic, They made the Humans look interesting, and Godzilla is phenomenal!

I very much disagree with your comments on King of the Monsters. It's a great love letter to the Kaiju fandom and they did get the scale and majesty of these creatures down just right through the use of music and imagery. Mothra unfolding her wings as she hatches from her caccoon, beneath a waterfall. Mothra, the Queen of the Monsters and the Monster of Light, her music playing in a haunting and powerful tone. Beautiful scene. Godzilla rising from the ocean, slow, tense build up to his theme song as he then rises out of the ocean and let's out his signature atomic breath into the sky. Mothra arriving at Castle Bravo with a much more intense and god-like version of her theme as she lights up the sky with a majestic light. They got the imagery you were mentioning throughout down to the nail. I respect your opinion, but I disagree and gave some counterpoints. KOTM was the ultimate love letter, from a fan of the Godzilla franchise to the rest of the fans around the world.

My very first Godzilla film I had ever seen was the Return of Godzilla.

i see the effort in the match cuts there bud, nice

I think kotm made the kaiju's feel more like characters then just monsters. The film has great sound design and soundtrack.

Size matters!

I get the point but KOTM go other way around. Its a movie with monsters as main characters, not humans. The monsters have objectives and obstacles, even what can be called as a character arc with the main character. The amount of personality those creatures got was almost disturbing and the sense of outerworldness was so strong that by the end of the movie its almost ambinguous if those giants are just some old forgotten species or literall deities

I really enjoy king of the monster. I grew up watching Godzilla as a child and when his theme song came up. It brought up all my childhood feels onto the screen.

Godzilla and Cthulu are in totally in different levels. While both have real-life commentaries, Godzilla is limited to "a force of nature" and have humans reflect on themselves on the sidelines. Cthulu and the mythos are about cosmosisym, a far bleaker take where humans are characters until they become insignificant.

It's so wonderful to see Colossal get a short but sweet mention here. It's such a fantastic and yet sadly criminally underrated film. It really deserves to be seen and appreciated by more people.

10:12 has perfect editing.

Another great video! Really sums up my thoughts on the 2014 Godzilla film.

Long live the KING! KoTM is a popcorn flick and I can respect that.

Really? The Bryan Cranston door scene? Wasn't that built up for like 10 minutes or something? It's incomparable to all of the majestic sequences from kotm. I was with you up until that point

KOTM was easily more of a love letter to the genre than 2014 ever was. There's lot's of world building and mythology at work here, it takes inspiration from several works of ancient scripture and legends and if you think deep enough, you can almost imagine that somewhere, in the deepest bowels of the earth, in the vast black oceans, these creatures could perhaps exist

I mean its not just that they focused on the humans but the humans that they do focus on are very bland character types and not well written. Also in the newest one they kept on telling us information about all these characters then just showing us.

God, i love that editing.

Finally someone who understands these kinds of movies. I also watched other videos of yours and cannot agree more. You know movie making is art.

The more I watch 2014, the more torn I am on it. Every event is affected by a kaiju and I enjoy the mutos more and more. I appreciate the build ups more. I understand the military is a crucial role in kaiju movies too, but this is where my criticism grows with the movie. I enjoyed the scene in hawaii on my first viewing when we see Godzillas thigh for the first time and left to its awe before loud gunfire. But the gunfire by lots of fodder soldiers is a mental block for me in the movie. When all the soldiers stand in a clump on the docks and the female muto smashes them. When our gi joe pulls out his pistol against the female muto like the ending of saving private ryan. It just had too much "fearless and dumb" soldier propaganda in it for me. FFWD to king of the monsters and I appreciated seeing more military evacuations. Jets attempting to do damage. A more believable response. King of the monsters just clicked as the military seemed more humane to other people than firing rockets at Godzilla hitting San Francisco bridge in 2014... though it was a pleasure on the big screen. Respect was given to kaiju movies and Godzilla in 2014. But there were really awkward military and civilian shots of no one panicking as hard as I believe they would in real life (since Edwards was going for the more grounded story). Yet it is still a kaiju movie that I probably shouldn't take so seriously with such a serious tone. Thus the confusing scenes on re-watches.

I say there was lots of mythology and majesty behind the monsters in KOTM

Shin Godzilla is without a doubt the best Godzilla film. It gets almost everything right, and Godzilla has never felt more terrifying than he/it does here. I hope that any future Toho Godzilla film will draw at least a little from Shin.

You're seriously telling me you'd go back and rewatch THE ENTIRETY of godzilla 2014 over and over again with skipping to the actual godzilla parts??? Really???

King of the monsters soundtrack was great!

The issue is that Shin Godzilla has compelling drama with the human characters trying to problem-solve where Gareth Edwards’ Godzilla had bland and boring characters (aside from Watanabe) moving around doing barely anything interesting enough to want to focus on them instead. Bryan Cranston should’ve been alive for that whole movie. Shin is about political machination, 2014 is wasteful meandering.

Great video, though I do disagree with your opinion on Godzilla 2014. Overall a great analysis.

The lack of scale is one of the first things I noticed about King of the Monsters. None of the human characters responded to what ought to be a tremendous, deafening roar like they did in the first film. Even though I do think all the non-Cranston characters in 2014 were bland, the strength of his direction still managed to sell the drama far better than King of the Monsters did (which, quite frankly, felt a bit too try-hard for me). I enjoyed the shlocky fun, the hints of Mothra's theme sprinkled in there, and other elements of it, but I feel like there's a whole host of people that just don't get that Godzilla started as, and is fully capable of, being more than the Showa era they grew up with.

To be honest, I've never been interested in Kaiju movies, but I do love your disserations,

King of Monsters is a genuine contender for the greatest Godzilla movie ever made. If you’re not swathed in nostalgia, you HAVE to admit that it’s at least top 5. It brought the G-daddy back, better than ever🤷🏾‍♂️

I’m working on a “little” writing project. This video is very helpful. Cheers!

I've been waiting for this for along time. you brought a point I never thought of. Respect for the creature. 👌

Ok I believe that the reason we the humans weren't as payed attention to in King if the Monsters is because when you think about it, the monsters themselves portray the emotions most humans in movies.

Really? I loved KOTM! Reminded me of the Showa era movies I grew up except with a gigantic budget.

If you're here for his opinion on King of the Monsters, skip to 8:32. Warning: it's not full of praise.

That editing, man 🤤 best channel ever

Rossattron, while I can agree that Godzilla 2014 had great teases of the monsters I can't agree that it was handled like earlier Japanese movie with the human element. In those movies, humans either had a reason to chase after Godzilla or a reason to get in his way. Their lives revolved around the monster and the effect the monster was having on them. Unless I'm thinking of a gamera movie right now, I can tell you there was a film where a man was creating a machine that produced a sound which the villains of the film-space aliens-found detestable. He didn't care about the monsters, just making money by selling the machine to what he thought was a real company. But even though he had no interest in kaijus, his motivations for wealth unknowingly dragged him into the mess filled with kaijus. Let's look a 2014. A character lost one family member to an accident and another to circumstances, and finally they stumble across the thing that caused it. Having an entire new world opened up to them, the character becomes even more invested in just discovering the purpose of these monsters in their universe. Perhaps this will give them salvation for all their suffering and help them move on. And as you can already guess, I'm not talking about the main character-I'm talking about his father who was thrown out of them movie. The reason you probably recognized where I was going with this is because you can recognize the father's plight and character arc compared to his son who is less of a main character and more of a the main characacher if I'm saying that word right. He is 'guy in monster movie who's always around monsters' guy. His wife is 'wife of guy who is in monster movie where there are monster who she is moderately around' wife. Their son is 'son of guy and wife of guy in monster movie where there may be monsters that fourth dimensional beings paid money to see but may want a refund from the theatre' son. When the main characacher goes here, does that, and accomplishes this it isn't because they a real life person wanted to do it or were forced by their real world events, it's because the director had to give them a reason to be on screen because they had none. When Brian Cranston sticks his nose in places it doesn't belong, it's to bring closure to his lost wife. When Brian Cranston forces his way to come in contact with the monsters it's because he's sacrificed his entire normal life for this one moment, and backing out wasn't going to make up for the fact that he abandoned his son. He, simply be frank, couldn't leave; this was his world. Guy however, could go home to get wife and son to leave for safety. Wife could take son to leave for safety if Guy suddenly got an actual reason to chase the monsters and warned her to leave. Let's look at Skull Island which I call an immense improvement. People decided to go to an island for their own reasons, money, fame, glory, mystery. But despite the thumbs up I give the film for making their main characters characters, the actual change that made this leagues better then 2014 was the fact that they couldn't escape. There wasn't a 'I'll just go home, pack my bags, and leave' they're stuck, nor would it matter if they could phone home and ask for help-they have an immediate problem to deal with. Whether they like it or not, this was there world now. As for those old Japanese Godzilla movies, either characters had a reason to be there or they lacked a means of escape (like being on an island with no boat or crew to drive it). Which brings me to Shin with something I say a lot, the main character in that movie wasn't the individual buerocrats, scientists, military, or rando yaguchi. The main character in 2016 Shin Godzilla was none other then Japan, not the people, not the island, but the nation. Long story short, if Shin just became a worse and worse threat-destroying his environment by presence or by proxy of other nations reacting to his presence-Japan would die. The people could run away, they might even be lucky enough to start a Nippon 2.0 if they could acquire land elsewhere, and Japanese would continue to be a race with a home. But Japan as we know it would be gone forever, because it cannot escape Godzilla and what he brings. Same as with the Godzilla movies of old that weren't child friendly, which is why Shin is a good successor. I'm not saying Legendary didn't make an excellent goji, but they definitely screwed the first movie. Godzilla is about one or two things if not both of them at the same time. 1.) A personal act of God to wipe out you, your people, your nation, or just some idea you hold dear and to bring cataclysmic change to the world as a whole. 2.) Watching two or more giant monsters having a domestic scaled to their size. Sometimes you can do both, but Legendary did poorly in 2014. 1.) I'm not afraid for nor am I concerned about the well being of America, especially when 2/3 of the monsters-who only eat radiation-only want to be at one city along the wesg coast and the last one only wants to kill them and will likely return to being passive. 2.) There are no satisfying fights that focus on the monsters-AND NO DO NOT BRING UP THAT GARBAGE KISS OF DEATH ENDING THAT THE FILM DIDN'T EARN, GIVE ME A FIGHT DAMMIT! Now the sequel did better, the world was in danger and only as a species in would humanity survive. I'm genuinely scared for every mortal in this world. In 2014, however...everybody can run away. This isn't some island that we inevitably will come across the same monster over and over, as it it is our only home. We can leave if our lives depend on it by walking if need be in another direction. Now, I full heartedly agree with your last point. Respect is what makes the Kaiju in any movie. But do I agree that the film makers respected Godzilla in 2014, just barely and not near as much as 2019 or even close to Kong in Skull Island. The gave him a good look and good teases but never delivered on handing over the scenes to him. They kept turning back over to the human characters that were boring, not the ones that were good but the ones that should never even existed. 2019 despite having mostly boring human characters, at least made their goals revolve around Godzilla and the other monsters as well as give the King his due with the better focus during fight scenes. The lead antagonist was stupid, I definitely agree-but we got the monsters we came for, so grain of salt. And the one interesting human character they had in this movie was killed not an hour in like the first one when things are just starting to pick up, but at the beginning of the third act when they said all they could be said and moved to do that last that they can. So let me just add to the list of what makes a good Kaiju. 1.) Respect-As you put it. 2.) Inevitable-You cannot escape from them due to internal/external reasons and will be forced to face them.

Completely disagree with you on KotM. I thought it was phenomenal, and easily one of the best Godzilla movies ever made

I understand the critic side of view, but I still loved KOTM, and I feel despite all his weak points, they got right the Monsters, the Music, the sound and the Fights, and you might want to deny it, but we all PAY to see is the monster fights, yes a good story and decent human characters matter, I love for that Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla and recognize they both are better films than KOTM.....but I ENJOY wayyyyyy more KOTM than both Godzilla 2014 and Shin, and I love both films, maybe Im wrong, time will tell, the box office numbers certainly give the point to the critics, but always TIME will define who is right....and I confident Time will give KOTM that definitive win, and I hope future films give equal time to both KAIJU and HUMAN characters in a way that all fans and critic will agree.

The problem with using Pacific Rim as an example is that the kaiju aren't really characters with distinct personalities. It's a better adaptation of mecha stories in structure

What monsters need to becoming a kaiju: 1. Good design 2. Has multiple ways of fighting 3. Must have a good backstory

All of the digs at cg for no reason are kind of hilarious. It’s like you acknowledge that you don’t know anything but continue anyways lmfao

Why does Pacific Rim never get enough credit?

Really enjoyed the video. Glad to see there's someone else out there who appreciates what Godzilla 2014 did to the monsters. I think I was a bit more harsh on The new movie though. Especially because the human characters where unbearable and had more of an impact on the monsters than the other way around

What makes a big kaiju? Big, loud, *extra T H I C C*

Your editing just made the video more whole.

Haven't seen the new Godzilla but my problem with Gareth Evans' film was that it tried too hard to be scientific and had silly plot armour that made no sense. Shin Godzilla was fun.

The issues i have with the monsterverse is how they're treating their monsters. The monsters are never given the screen time they deserve. 90% of all older godzilla movies have a formula, yes there are human stories but when the monsters show up, we watch them shine, what 2014 did was sprinkle in godzilla instead of giving him a good slice and that wouldn't be so bad if godzilla was the only focus instead of the mutos. KotM did a little better but still suffer from the same issue, kong still has the best monster brawl so far. Godzilla 2000 commentary at the end has the best quote "now that godzilla is here, the humans story is done, they just here to watch" KotM also suffers from the fact there are too many extra characters were "sopposed" to care about meaning more screen time dedicated to them and not the monsters. Just how i feel even tho i love the movies.

This was beautiful. Thanks man. You really nailed it.

I feel like if they had kept Bryan Cranston's character alive in Godzilla 2014, it would have made the film much better. Seriously, his character was one of the most interesting human characters, aside from Serizawa, in the film, but they focused more on soldier boy more. I was really hoping to see more of Bryan's character in the movie, but they pulled a GoT and killed off one of the most interesting characters, which both shocked and disappointed me.

Great video, although I feel that the dig at KOTM was slightly misinformed, mainly because there was an interesting story arc for at least Sirizawa and the family.

While I love this, I'm still very much in line with Moviebob when it comes to the newest films. Kaiju films are pulp sci fi and clash of gods mythology. I do think Pacific Rim and KOTM are as good as kaiju films can get. I adore them with every fibre of my inner child

We need a lovecraftian kaiju movie where we barely see the monster, and using the fear of the unknown, about what happens when the stars align.

Great video, loved the analysis!

I thought kotm brought what fans wanted it did focus on the humans with the orca but it also put a great ammount of kaiju action but I can see what you mean and understand.

Man, you put in work with those transitions.

7:12 That is what I've been saying for YEARS! Professional critics and many people don't understand this statement, assuming that kaiju movies are the same as anything else and ignore the completely separate cinematic history of the genre. It didn't come up in the west like most other genres, nor was an attempt to mimic it. The kaiju genre evolved independently to other genres, and although there was inspiration from western sources, overall, it is an entirely unique beast that cannot be judged on the same scale as other genres. They aren't Marvel superhero movies. They're not Michael Bay action movies. They are kaiju movies, with a far richer and more unique history than anything we see dominating the theaters now, with the best based on respect and tradition, but also unapologetic originality, rather than purely based on spectacle and biased professional statements.

In Godzila 2014, he was on screen for just 8 minutes. To me, it was far from enough. Minor screen time for human development is, in my opinion, not wolthy. Sr for my bad english.

I love that in 54, they ALREADY had a way to kill godzilla, but they're afraid to use it because if a country got their hands on the weapon, they'd cause more destruction than godzilla himself

Yeah I honestly didn't like that the monsters moved so fast in 2019 But it was still a pretty awesome movie

Do you think having a Japanese director or production team working on American Godzilla movie would fix many of the problems the western movies have?

that G2014 blast cut had me crying

When you started talking about people in suits and miniatures I was so expecting a clip from Arrested Development. Grraaargghhh I'm out of vodka

I am not an expert whatsoever, so people can say what they wont but still, i adore Godzillas 1/2 and Pacific Rims 1 action scenes. Pacif Rim and Godzilla 1 due to the heavy feel they had, making the action so much more satisfying to watch, and godzilla 2 due to the majestic pictrues and the overall bombastic fights. The creatures felt like they had more of a personality than the humans. So yeah, Kaiju movies in my world were just blockbuster action movies with big big fights because i never ever watched a japanese godzilla movie. I tried my best to stay away from them due to the silly look of godzilla and the goof stuff godzilla did. But everythings changed after i saw Shin Godzilla. I LOVE THIS MOVIE. It was tragic, it was sad, it had a layer of dark and fcked up stuff and so much more. The puppet like look of godzilla made him even creepier and the composer, Shirō Sagisu, completly sold it for me. That score is pure greatness.

"There are traditional Godzilla films where he appears for less time than in the 2014 film." But you also have to remember that the Toho films average about 30 minutes SHORTER than the 2014 film does. That's about 30 extra minutes of film that do NOT include Godzilla in it. I still liked the 2014 film overall, but I'm speaking as a lifelong fan of Godzilla when I say that even by the standards of the classic Toho films, the ratio of Godzilla to non-Godzilla screentime feels horrifically unbalanced. We didn't really need Godzilla to be on screen constantly, but another 5 - 8 minutes of screentime for the Big G would have helped the film tremendously. Show us a couple more minutes of the Hawaii fight, and maybe some longer, uninterrupted shots of the climactic battle that aren't constantly panning away to look at the soldiers. I would bet my lifes savings that the film would have been much more positively recieved by fans and casual audiences alike with such minuscule additions as these. Otherwise, this is a fantastic video. Always happy to hear your thoughts on something we're both so passionate about.

3:37 lol that was so perfect 😂

It's interesting, it seems to be that if you liked Godzilla 2014 you didn't care for Godzilla KOTM and vice-versa. I thought 2014 was an utter snoozefest. I understand the focus on characters but I felt like we were mostly just following Aaron Taylor-Johnson around while he just phoned it in as Soldier Guy. IMO of course.

Good video on the subject and I actually agree with what makes the genre very special for people. Especially on what you said about Biollante, as that's one of my favorite godzilla movies. However, I think the biggest glaring issue is the severe lack of mentioning/showcasing Ultraman or anything else by Tsuburaya. Considering that Ultraman is just as historically significant as Godzilla was and still is continuing to this day, as they were both created by the same guy. I think it also very much ties into the whole respect thing you're going on, since Ultraman really respects it's monsters a lot in how they're handled.

My problem with the story focusing too much in the humans is precisely what you pointed out, they're not interesting. If people come to these films for the monsters then they shouldn't be focusing on the humans. It's the same problem a lot of the japanese Godzilla movies have, but in some the human factor is more fun (or even interesting) than in others. If we are going to spend most of the time with the humans they may as well make them interesting.

could not agree more with the music part i mean, just look at clair de lune in the king of the monsters trailer, the sense of wonder there is *OOOOOOY BLIN*

really good character scene But all of your points are in Kotm with the awesome character moment, soundtrack and respect so I don’t understand why u said it doesn’t?

you contradicted yourself. You talked about respect and how you liked the 1998 film but Godzilla wasn't treated like a god. Hence the name Zilla

Kraken: "a world ending kaiju" Godzilla:im about to change that *makes kotm* The makers of the kraken:welp we failed

I think you're a little harsh on the speed of the kaiju in King of the Monsters. Three of the kaiju featured in the film are traditionally very quick moving. Especially Rodan and Mothra who are traditionally very agile for their size. I was very pleased with the raw power and speed of the two of them and getting to see the two of them clash was amazing. The only Godzilla Kaiju I can think of who actually out performs both would be.. Megaguiras? And no others really come to mind. But the Rodans in particular was out maneuvering jets like it was casually easy in the first film, and I was really pleased to see an homage to that in this movie. There are several shots where it's clear that the director was primarily a Rodan fan and after hearing word about how Rodan is supposed to be on par with Godzilla in this film, seeing Mothra, who nobody really knew what to expect with, actually able to stand up to him was great. I felt like we got pretty much every scene and every shot we wanted out of the kaiju and Mothra's ability to weave around the battlefield and her opponents, and even muscle them around some was just fantastic. This was exactly what I loved about her in Final Wars, and in GMK, and in Tokyo SOS, and in Godzilla vs Mothra. Which, for me, are the real definitive movies that you want to watch to get a feel for her, even more so than her original film, really. And now King of the Monsters is on that list as well.

0:57 for me, the best kaiju movie I've ever seen

A lot of people complained about 2014 Godzilla, some about the lack of monsters, and some about the lack of humans. For me, though, it was the lack of plot. Aside from anything else, they killed off the only compelling character 40 minutes in to pave the way for the monster. Now, had the movie's plot switched to the monster and the monster's arc, or the other characters and their arcs, it wouldn't have been a problem. But from the point Cranston died, there was no further plotting, just random events. Godzilla fights the Mutos. He loses. They destroy stuff. All is lost. But then, randomly, he comes back and wins. Here's an example of the plot. Remember the nuclear canisters? There was all this activity around getting them to blow up, but they never do. They're Chekov's gun, hanging on the wall, only to never go off. I spend the last half of the movie assuming that the remaining hero dude that played Cranston's son, Or Ken Watemabe, or someone, would work out that if Godzilla swallowed those canisters, he'd be healed, or powered up, or something. And there would be a final plot where the plan to blow them won't work, but feeding them to Godzilla will, and Ken will communicate this to the hero dude, who somehow makes it happen against everyone's orders. But it would give Godzilla his nuclear breath, and he'd use that to destroy the Mutos. But what did we get instead? The canisters are forgotten. They could be cut from the film and make zero difference. Godzilla just has nuclear breath all along. But he never uses it till the end, because, well, it's the end right? It's a movie of random action figures just doing stuff, and then doing other stuff, till the credits roll. There's zero structure, zero cause and effect, zero character growth, in either people or monsters. The problem isn't that there was too much focus on people, or monsters. The problem was there wasn't enough focus on plot.

I feel like trypticon is a good representation of a kaiju, if done right trypticon can be a perfect kaiju as he dwarfs the giant cybertronians of his homeworld, he is literally otherworldly as he is an alien, and he has slow lumbering eeriness of godzilla

Creative, distinct design. Simple yet detailed at the same time. Colors are to be embraced not avoided. Even better if it resembles things from real life. That is, it has a quality where you can say, "this is a giant so and so. Anguirus is a giant ankylosaur. Mothra is a giant moth. Kong is a giant gorilla. Destroyah is a giant crustacean Satan."

I believe Shin and Legendary’s Godzilla both work at being great Kaiju for their own respective reasons of what the film was actually going for. The people who don’t like Shin is usually because they didn’t understand that Shin Godzilla was meant to be an event driven film with a message, and meant to expose something going on in our real world, and instead just found it as a boring movie with too many characters and an uninteresting Godzilla. Meanwhile the people who don’t like Legendary Godzilla (that being from 2014 and KOTM) is usually because they don’t understand that those films were meant to add a truly godlike and animalistic feeling to Godzilla we never had to this extent, and make him a true deity, a true King of the monsters with all the crazy spectacle, and instead just found it as a dumb, silly film with characters that are either 1 dimensional or boring, and a Godzilla that is barely shown on screen