great stuff!

you know your shaper is too big when you can just throw a full size rotary table on it and still cut slots in a brake. (I'm jealous). nice work.

That was great Steve! Love the ole Cincy shaper, sure wish I had one that size. I appreciate your enthusiasm over doing a job for practice and experience. Looks like your going to have a great channel to view. I'll be sure to check out some more videos.

Another great demonstration of the versatility of that shaper. Thank you!

It's neat going back looking at your older stuff, especially now that your shop is getting a great upgrade.

Just because you can is the best reason in the world to do something. If we all only had the tools we NEEDED we would all watch too much tv. Excellent job. Ben

This old Tony and Jimmy Diresta visit you...so cool and very well done sir

The first time I see such a notch on the brake discs. Super!

That's awesome Steve, I always wondered about putting a rotery table on a shaper!

Sweet! Nice to have tools, AND the desire to learn!

Nice job. Thanks for making the video.

great watching your channel and shaper work thanks for sharing it with us ,

I love it. Absolutely creative

The shaper works great for resurfacing heads and exhaust manifolds. I use brazed carbide and grind into a large radius on a piece of rectangler bar stock. I like those old cincy 24" shapers that your can cut compound angles. Mine is a 22" Wotan with a solid cube. At work they trashed (scraped) the 3 Cincinnatis we had. Wouldn't let us get them, no matter how we tried............. called them obsolete. They work great on Amco metals (18, 21,25) when a mill puts a lot of stress into the operation.

very cool. i love your shaper!

Cool never thought about using a rotary table on a shaper.

Metal shaper.. a very nice machine!

Nice job! That was fun to watch.

thanks for sharing. keep having fun!

The man who explores his vision in life will prosper. Any flunky can be trained to operate a machine . But real machinist know the how , the why , and the way. It's not the machine a man uses, it's the machinist who can do it all with what he has. My words of wisdom. God bless you and your family

Nice! It introduces a rotary table on a shaper. As to the rotary table, you are really using it as a dividing head. Since I built my own micro-dividing head, which obviously did not come with a chart, if you bought your dividing head without a chart, there is a simple way to figure out what the proper rotations + holes is. I won't go into it but it is all over the place. Don't need no steenking chart. I am really enjoying watching someone do neat things on a shaper. And I see you have gained some really heavyweight subscribers, and all I can say is well deserved. And I envy both the shaper and the lathe :)

100% that's a first. I've not used a shaper since I was an apprentice in the 70s. Great machines for stress relieving steel...so much nicer than ripping it off using a carbide head on a Huron mill.

Thanks For watching everyone. Please help me and this channel grow, I'm new. Share the video with a friend. Thank You. Steve Summers

Hey...I've seen some of your vids in the past, but now I'm hooked (and subscribed)! That is some nice stuff!

Very cool!

Well it looks like your rotary table shaper video did very well and you did a very good job with it STEVE. I am enjoying your channel keep them coming.

Good video, never seen a setup like that but it worked great. I'm a lifetime car guy and was a heavy truck mechanic. I wouldn't hesitate to use that rotor, if you were to make another just start your cuts for a left side rotor with the angles opposite so the grooves can expel the hot gas from the brake pad outwards. The rotor you cut is now for right side use. Great idea and nicely done.

Hi Steve I just subscribed awesome channel that you have started here. I've not found so much video in one place on metal shapers as you have, so keep up the great shaper vids. Thanks

Hi Steve great vid and I have to agree with you on being the first to use an indexing head on a shaper on You tube. Here's a challenge for ya, cut curved slots in the disc.

Love it. The interesting thing here is that you can shape the bottom of each groove, by grinding the profile into the tool. Like adding a little longitudinal textures to retain the water by surface tension in the bottom of the groove, while also changing the angle of the sides from 90 degrees, to undercut, so losing the absolute minimum pad contact area.

Its good to Just have a little play with the Unknown some times Steve. And your Right it Came up Real Good mate. :)

Day after 2021 Thanks giving, and have wanted a shaper for couple of yrs now. Hit FB MP early on Thanksgiving, and a Klopp 450 was listed 20 min away. Going this Saturday morning and unless the casting is cracked, should be setting in our shop soon.Watching your little shaper leaving your shop to make move room a few videos back when the DoAll drill came, I was jealouse I missed picking your up. The 450 Klopp will eat up floor space, and I too may have to let another tool go,, but will open up a new avenue for our shop..Keep on Keeping on,,,Hope one day to come to KY to visit your and Brains shops,,Happy 2021 Holidays,,Bear from TX. PS. Had a hoot on toolfest2021. First time to participate in any event, but meet a lot more of YT Creators..

Hello Steve, superb video still, good use of the indexable table, be careful always block the table so as not to damage the worm and the gear, great job again, good continuation, very cordially Thierry

Great job amigo!!

Very cool you know you could do it on mill but it wouldn't be as cool. Great video thanks for sharing.

I Ran an Old Step Toe Shaper back in school 40 years ago

I also wrap my rotary table and indexing head in cling film to stop the iron dust getting into the mechanism. Unlike steel that makes large cuttings, brake disks give off a highly abrasive dust that needs to be contained by wrapping and using a powerful vacuum extractor.

Are you able to resurface a rotor with a shaper in a way that resembles one that's been Blanchard ground?

Got me wondering if I can put slots in my 81 Goldwing rotors on my Logan 7” shaper. 🤔

I had a 2009 Chevy Cobalt that I bought new. The disc brakes never very good. When the car was in need of a disc brake I was thinking of returning the rotors on my lathe but l found a new pair of drilled and slotted rotors and ceramic pads for a price I couldn't justify turning my old ones. Those rotors and pads were the single greatest improvement I ever did on a car. I should have done it much sooner. You may already know that the slots are put in the opposite direction from one side to the other. My new ones were marked for left and right. The car was a lot more fun to drive and much safer as well !

Another great video Steve!

I thank Adom Booth for your channel great work sam

i see that the table has 360 degrees marked in the table. every 45 degrees would produce 8 spaces just like the way you are doing it but i like degrees better Steve. and i like your shaper i have 2 one like yours and a vertical shaper

Nice set up and yet another informative video. Thanks, Steve. I don’t have nor understand a rotary table indexing plate, but wouldn’t you just move the table 45 degrees for each slot pass (360/8)? It seems the round table has marks going all around it. Wouldn’t you want the slots on each side to be offset so that you are not thinning the material too much on both sides in each groove? Maybe it doesn’t matter. You are a first!

Is it possible to machine a curved surface on a shaper?

excellent

Steve - One thing I like about the way you produce your videos is when you display text on the screen. You don't leave it on the screen too long. Some people seem to think that their audiance is third graders who struggle reading big words.

really neat, I thought about doing the same but with a spin indexer that I was building so I can cut square and hex ends on my parts to make bolts and such, that and maybe cut basic gears too eventually. I was always wondering why people wanted slotted rotors, I dont mess with car stuff unless I can melt it, so Im not really sure. Also, Ive seen a few people using rotary tables on the shaper, but mainly for cutting gears and stuff like that. The one was cutting a bevel gear for a small traction engine or small scale locomotive.

Man, I miss the shaper, do you still have it????

What's the name of the dial indicator arm you are using? It looks much easier to set up then mine.

When skimming disks you need to clock off the mounting face rather than the friction face. The mounting face references the friction face to the hub. I clock to mounting face first and skim friction face true to that. This makes them parallel. Flip over and then machine that friction face true and parallel to the first. Jobs a good one every time.

Sweet!

can you link the index plate kit

That slot pattern reminds me of the aperture science logo :-) Awesome work!

Would a dividing head be strong enough to use on a shaper for this?

It sure does a nice job. No liability issues if it is for your own vehicle. Besides most accidents have little to do with mechanical problems human error almost every time

"You may not want to dick around with your brakes". Sage advice. Great video.

There's a 0% chance I could get 11 turns every time.

Hi Steve, nice set up. What are you holding with your left hand during the cuts? Thanks!

If you wanted the slots to be curved, is there a way you could do that on the shaper or would it require a different machine? Some of the slotted discs I've seen were curved slots, not straight. It was an interesting and entertaining video, thanks for sharing.

Nice lookin job for just goofin around. I like that machine...whats a beast like that set ya back? I never see them for sale on craigslist, just machinery dealers

Definitely a first! I don't think I can use my 6" RT on my 7" shaper though. I've been meaning to ask, is that a lug nut on the tool post? And I like the shaper bra too.

Too cool

Another fantastic video Steve! I'll admit that I have the disease.....there's just something sexy about machining divisions on a shaper. Cutting splines comes to mind. Since I know you're in the same part of the world as me; do you have any issues with surface rust due to condensation/rapid temperature change? I've started using Hornady Tap HD Extreme & WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor, but curious if you have the same issues and what you prefer. The fact Diresta & (This old) Tony are watching/commenting on your vids speaks to the great job you're doing....keep up the great work & thanks!

Before putting the brake disc into operation, it is not necessary to balance? Since you have removed some material .. New subscriber here, I still only watched some of your videos and I'm enjoying it. You have a great way, keep it up, and good lucky :)

Steve builds racing parts!

This is a different twist on a vertical mill job

I'd run them all day long nice tinkerin

It seems you locked the clapperbox ?? Why ? If you use it you should set the stroke a bit bigger so the clapperbox has time to return Peter from Holland

Very cool video nice work? Just FYI I know this was a demo and you stated you had no intention of using this on a car but you would never slot rotors all the way to the edge, as it causes a loud high pitched noise under braking due to the friction material off gassing also the slots should be cut symmetrical on both sides to avoid oscillating the floating calipers. On a passenger car this would only result in accelerated brake wear and very unlikely a pulsating feel in the pedal. On a F1 or say NASCAR you would surely see dangerous vibrations and harmonics with resulting broken components just FYI

Great

Великолепно !!!!!!!!

Very bice work. Thanks.

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Next use it to sipe your tires. 😂

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thumbs up for "the first to do it on youtube"

Ill watch anything cut on a shaper. I bought one just to look at it work. You can make anything on a shaper, except money.

You should put up some flags to help with echoes and give for better sound for videos

I worked in a machine shop we didn't have a shaper but by the looks of it you could make gears with it. Pretty cool machine. What was its basic propus in the first place? I'm sure you could cut cross cuts in a disk brake a lot faster on a different setup and machine. or even add a arc cross cut and not a straight cut askew from center. CNC Bridgeport and like you said a bullnose or ball type cutter. I would imagine you can add a power rotation to the CNC for indexing.

That is good but make it by milling is very easy

The metal "itch'r"

Жаль я не понимаю что ты говоришь , но хотя бы понимаю что ты делаешь. Хороший у тебя строгальный станок

A shaper is cheaper, dependable, reliable, and easy to mass produce and IT IS ONE OF THE FEW MACHINE TOOLS USED TO DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY MAKE MACHINE TOOLS, ONCE YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE TO DO IT RIGHT.

11: How prime is a prime number when you can "turn" it into 8 slots? It just don't seem right and yet, there it is...

Cool video. Love the shaper. How come the clapper didn't "clap" if you know what I mean?

how about plunge cutting a spur gear on your shaper there are no videos at all on doing that out there it would make a great video.

Cast iron rotors?

I think I would have done 9 slots, but the 8 slots sow how to index better.

Why?

Ok

i don't think you're holding the rotor properly, both braking surfaces should be parallel with the middle surface (the one with the stud holes ) ...just saying....

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