ROTEL RX-802 Receiver Restoration (Ep. 207)

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Trevor's Bench

7 ай бұрын

Another vintage ROTEL receiver gets worked over

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@SuperXygt
@SuperXygt 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your superb videos and the time you take to explain issues, procedures etc. I've learned a lot and currently fixing an amp for a friend after learning the general how to from you 😊 Regards Brendan
@craigm.9070
@craigm.9070 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy seeing these old Rotel's getting the love they deserve to continue on with life. Very thorough t'shooting and problem solving. You and family have a Merry Christmas!
@ianc4901
@ianc4901 7 ай бұрын
I like your minimal Xmas decorations !
@michaelcarey
@michaelcarey 6 ай бұрын
The oil on the old clear PVC tubing is the plasticizer leaching out. This is the same substance that "melts" hard plastics when soft PVC cables are left sitting on them for too long.
@TurntableGuy
@TurntableGuy 7 ай бұрын
I had the exact same issue with adjusting the bias on mine. So funny to see you going through the same issue! I left mine at 20mV.
@steveoszman8746
@steveoszman8746 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas stay warm, great work.
@Rakatawhat
@Rakatawhat 6 ай бұрын
Awesome channel
@TurntableGuy
@TurntableGuy 7 ай бұрын
I restored my 802 about 5 years ago. It sits in storage now because I have other units that I use. Mine is the silver-faced unit.
@Bioniclegs01
@Bioniclegs01 6 ай бұрын
Excellent restoration, nice to see the whole process come together. Happy New Year!
@nomexus123
@nomexus123 7 ай бұрын
I love your videos Trevor go ahead
@jhjove
@jhjove 7 ай бұрын
Using 100V caps instead of 35V is no issue....as long as same capacitance value and that they fit. That being said these replacement caps were sloppily installed, probably what the pevious tech had in stock. And the main filter caps, I would remove the old and replace with a similar diameter form-factor cap. Nice vintage Rotel.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Some would argue that installing the wrong voltage caps is sloppy
@jhjove
@jhjove 7 ай бұрын
@@TrevorsBench If the original design is 35V and the operating voltage of that circuit is near 35V for sure I'd replace with a 50V @105C cap.
@alainblazit9504
@alainblazit9504 7 ай бұрын
Bias current is for the A part of class AB amplifier, working in class A at low level, thus avoidind crossover distortion. You can test if your bias current is not too low by measuring distortion at low level.
@JamesE707
@JamesE707 7 ай бұрын
I bought the RX-402 back in 1978, cost me £128 here in the UK.
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb 15 күн бұрын
Which retail store was it? Laskeys or Dixons? Did they even have Dixons back in 78?
@JamesE707
@JamesE707 15 күн бұрын
@@AlexMitchell-sj4sb It was COMET.
@RotxuF
@RotxuF 7 ай бұрын
I always aim for 20 ma of current thru a single emitter resistor when unknown . Seems to be the sweet spot most of the time
@robertdavis5714
@robertdavis5714 7 ай бұрын
Happy Holidays to you Trevor. Yes, the width is eye catching along with the color contrast of the Face plate, hard to believe 1975 (except green lighting) looks more 1980. Service Caps look good. Enjoyed the BIAS fiasco.
@sirsuse
@sirsuse 7 ай бұрын
Great video Trevor. Merry Christmas to you and your family.!
@maebeans
@maebeans 7 ай бұрын
used to have one of these, but had to get rid off it during a move, such a shame
@alexismethenitis
@alexismethenitis 7 ай бұрын
Excellent work as always. A very Merry Christmas to you and your family!
@alanarmstrong2323
@alanarmstrong2323 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@Craig_Spurlock
@Craig_Spurlock 7 ай бұрын
One thing I really do hate is soldered-in fuses!
@JamesE707
@JamesE707 7 ай бұрын
BTW, you don't have to match the voltage rating for electrolytic capacitors - use the same or higher rating. So the 100v rating was okay. :o)
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 7 ай бұрын
I thought the QI was a miss print with probably 13/15 mA being right. A quick look for any crossover would confirm if the QI was correct or not.
@martinkoskella3943
@martinkoskella3943 7 ай бұрын
I would also assume it would be a typo for 30mA bias for each channel. Perhaps the spec is poorly written to mean 30mA for both combined. Nice job however Trevor. Always excited for your videos!
@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez
@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Trevor. 🎅
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas back at you and I hope there's a taco waiting for you under the tree😃
@martyh9309
@martyh9309 7 ай бұрын
There is usually a multiplex level adjustment for the stereo decoder to kick in only when the 19khz level in the carrier is high enough. Might need tweaking to make the stereo light behave.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Broken trace on the lamp connection at the multiplex chip, fixed
@user-iy1fg9sl2i
@user-iy1fg9sl2i 7 ай бұрын
Feliz Natal 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👍👍👍👍
@martyh9309
@martyh9309 7 ай бұрын
I saw that those 2 carbon comp resistors on each side of the power amp board were still there. Did you check them as you had mentioned? Enjoyed the work on this Rotel!
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
I checked them and they were still within tolerance
@humoursque8447
@humoursque8447 2 ай бұрын
I have a Rotel RX602 which is similar to your RX802. The power button playing up. Can switch on but difficulty switching off. Need to give a hard push with the finger. Would appreciate your expertise.
@philipslighting8240
@philipslighting8240 7 ай бұрын
What was the fascination in US with receivers ?
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
We enjoyed some really good FM stations back in the 70's and 80's
@philipslighting8240
@philipslighting8240 6 ай бұрын
Same here in the UK. Now the radio is full of trans ethnic dwarf Vegan presenters. talking bollocks@@TrevorsBench
@paulschreuder4211
@paulschreuder4211 7 ай бұрын
Maybe it's 30mA over BOTH emitter resistors?
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
That's what I though too but that's not the case
@malybboy
@malybboy 6 ай бұрын
do you have any hitachi amps or receivers to repair ? not many about.
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 7 ай бұрын
Are those power supply caps 85 deg celsious or F?
@nomexus123
@nomexus123 7 ай бұрын
The manufacturers of capacitors agreed very early on the international SI units, which is why the temperatures on electrolytic capacitors are given in degrees Celsius
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 7 ай бұрын
@@nomexus123 Thank you, good to know info.
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 7 ай бұрын
I have read on some commments that people say that you can go higher on the voltage on the caps but don't go higher on the mfds to stay with the recommended? so now i am confused? What happens when you go higher on the voltage? Thank you
@davidlong1786
@davidlong1786 7 ай бұрын
You're right. No harm going higher in voltage. If anything, the ESR will be lower.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Really, there no harm in it, just wasteful. Those 100v audio grade caps were not cheap. The proper replacements were probably 1/10 the cost. Using caps that are wildly overrated in voltage will not form properly during their service life, not sure if that makes any difference in their performance, just sayin
@Haakonisak
@Haakonisak 6 ай бұрын
Nice video. I'm working on the same receiver that kept on blowing the power transistors on one channel because the temperature skyrockeded. Found out that the stabistor on one channel was fried, but on the other channel the bias voltage could be adjusted to be bang on 30mV. It turns out the stabistors are impossible to find, so one solution is to put two tN4148 diodes in series which ain't the best solution. Someone are talking about making a resistor circuit instead but there is no description to be found. Other say a green led diode painted with nail polish to make it voltage stable might work. Does anybody know what is the best solution to replace the stabistors?
@adamwatford5234
@adamwatford5234 4 ай бұрын
Xraytonyb on youtube has some to say about stabistors and varistors.
@atw4321
@atw4321 7 ай бұрын
Well if you get tired of Canada your welcome in Tennessee USA
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 7 ай бұрын
MC... HNY... :-)
@user-yn8mz5bf9y
@user-yn8mz5bf9y 7 ай бұрын
OZZY ! REPORTED FOR PLAYING COPYRIGHTED MUSIC
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you too John
@user-yn8mz5bf9y
@user-yn8mz5bf9y 7 ай бұрын
@@TrevorsBench SAME BACK TO YOU !
@user-yn8mz5bf9y
@user-yn8mz5bf9y 7 ай бұрын
VIDEO IS TO LONG REPORTED
@atw4321
@atw4321 7 ай бұрын
Well damm if its too long for you then don't watch it DUH.
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 7 ай бұрын
I guess some people have a low concentration level.
@knifeswitch5973
@knifeswitch5973 7 ай бұрын
This ass-clown has been doing this to Trevor’s channel for quite some time. I don’t know, maybe Trevor stole his girl in junior high school or something like that. Probably should get some professional help.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Did you know, time accelerates as we age?
@knifeswitch5973
@knifeswitch5973 7 ай бұрын
@@TrevorsBench happy holidays to you and yours Trevor
@mohindersembi7647
@mohindersembi7647 7 ай бұрын
Wow very nice video as I always watch your all video I must say that you are master of the master professional electronics engineer 🎉🎉 you must be rocket science 😊 and you are the best on KZfaq no one can beat you 😊the best master professional guru and merry christmas and happy new year to you and your family ps if need help I will it you know and please kindly don't forget me 😊I am from London England thank you
@paulb4661
@paulb4661 7 ай бұрын
Are you sure you're from London? If so, then language proficiency levels have hit rock bottom right in the cradle 😉
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words but I admit, I'm no master at this. From the number of mistakes I make, I'm still learning
@mohindersembi7647
@mohindersembi7647 7 ай бұрын
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