Roto Grip Optimum Idol & Storm Phaze 2 In Depth Comparison On PBA Viper Oil Pattern!

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Luis Napoles

Luis Napoles

4 ай бұрын

Today we are comparing the all new Roto Grip Optimum Idol and Storm Phaze 2 on the 39 foot PBA Viper Oil pattern! Both of these bowling balls are going to be great options on both sport shots and house shots!
Optimum Idol review on house: • Roto Grip Optimum Idol...
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@itsgizmobtw
@itsgizmobtw 4 ай бұрын
As primarily a league bowler, i could really appreciate your videos more than the pro review videos. Although you choose to do a sport shot on this video, most of you videos are on house shots which i think most of us can relate to. Have you considered doing an arsenal video? Showing whats in your bag and what you look for specifically for your league house shots.
@patrickhayden1977
@patrickhayden1977 4 ай бұрын
Great video !! Keep up the good work!! I think Phase 2 cover is slightly weaker making it more responsive to dry boards. The Idol appears to have a little more core and cover … making it slightly earlier and rounder. I bet you could have both in a 6 ball arsenal if you knew what you were bowling on beforehand. In an “all - purpose “ 6 ball, I’d say not enough room for both.
@rc4361
@rc4361 4 ай бұрын
I’m essentially a beginner to a little above a beginner bowler and I enjoy your videos. I have very low ball speed (12 mph) and likely super low revs. I bowl on house conditions and I have been thinking about getting a Phase II
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely would be a good option! Just always remember to adjust the surfaces until you get the right spot for you
@BlaineDEEJEE1
@BlaineDEEJEE1 4 ай бұрын
You’ll also like Brunsnick- Luis and and him are excellent instructions on everything. Love em both. ❤
@philippeters3253
@philippeters3253 4 ай бұрын
I had the Idol, and it was my GOAT.. I wish I bought another one to hold on to, but I didn't. After mine cracked I drilled up a phase 2 and absolutely love it.. I am very curious how this new Optimum looks. I had the Helios and I could not stand that ball.
@user-gt1wr1vh3i
@user-gt1wr1vh3i 4 ай бұрын
Nice hair cut Luis... looking good! I have a Phaze 2. It is in the bag for league, but doesn't get to see a whole lot of lane time since it is pretty strong, even with a medium drilling. It's definitely better for tournament play. Optimum Idol looks like $$$
@mustangm210
@mustangm210 4 ай бұрын
I've had the Phaze II for a while and I love it. My only issue with the Optimum Idol is the color. I might still get it though.
@adamabdelaziz4586
@adamabdelaziz4586 Ай бұрын
Color wise the Phaze II looks a lot like the old Storm 2Furious
@adamabdelaziz4586
@adamabdelaziz4586 Ай бұрын
I’m planning on getting a second Phaze II.
@bowlerdoc1371
@bowlerdoc1371 4 ай бұрын
Would you be able to do a comparison between optimum Idol versus zen gold label? I get Zen GL is cleaner, should be sharper, but I think both should grab the lane earlier because of the core, etc. Would love to see a comparison. Thanks again!
@jacobspayd4324
@jacobspayd4324 4 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of getting another that Idol since I already have the Idol synergy, so it'll be a nice ball up from it
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
This will be the perfect ball up from the Synergy!
@kevinstoops2623
@kevinstoops2623 4 ай бұрын
Your analysis is usually very good Luis. Give yourself a little credit sir. Ult Idol def earlier no doubt. Luv the 7-10 and stone 9 and the end. Beautiful lol
@user-ms9th6zs6y
@user-ms9th6zs6y 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jojorigos2035
@jojorigos2035 3 ай бұрын
thank you luis for posting the real video.. not the selected ones to post.. thats the reality.. the outcome occurs unexpectedly.. bottom line, its the bowlers choice what to use..
@ReignMusic
@ReignMusic 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff!!
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@kwizmo
@kwizmo 4 ай бұрын
Man I was hoping you would get this review out sooner rather than later. This is gonna be a good one. Question: Do you have an idea of when you’ll do/release the league play review?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
I hope you liked it! I will throw the Idol in league tonight
@batsper
@batsper 4 ай бұрын
P2 looks like it is shined up more than the Idol. Did you surface them both the same?
@lilmonstergame01
@lilmonstergame01 4 ай бұрын
More videos using sport patterns! I like this
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
You got it!
@MHecht-db2ou
@MHecht-db2ou 2 ай бұрын
Getting a phaze 2. How should I drill it? Pin up or pin down? And I'm a 2 finger bowler
@georgeeverett5936
@georgeeverett5936 24 күн бұрын
Is it good to have both balls because I am getting rid of everything the guy at the pro shop drill non spi balls for a right hand bowler and I'm a lefty
@chilzky14
@chilzky14 4 ай бұрын
I love how you compared same shots with 2 balls knowing one shot isnt necessarily the best route for a particular ball because thats the only way you can get a thorough comparison of the differences between different balls. You can't just try to line up a strike every throw from the angle thats meant for the ball which a lot of youtubers do.. if im making sense.lol
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
yea I hear you on that!
@lunchbxx
@lunchbxx 3 ай бұрын
I am finally looking to upgrade my ball - love the videos! I throw an old Hyroad X - would recommend any fo the newer balls? like an absolute power / harsh reality? or older like a phaze2?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 3 ай бұрын
If you want something similar but newer better wait and get the Road
@Tenpins300_Bowling
@Tenpins300_Bowling 4 ай бұрын
Fresh haircut!! And I wonder how the O Idol compares to the Exponent.
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I think the Idol will be MUCH stronger
@BlaineDEEJEE1
@BlaineDEEJEE1 4 ай бұрын
Hey Luis, what ever u have been doing to ur mechanics has really improved. Love ur arm swing. Very smooth. 😇👍
@jayminer8773
@jayminer8773 3 ай бұрын
I'm planning on getting both the P2 and Optimum Idol. Could a low rev/speed dominant (210ish/17+mph) bowler as myself get away with using the same pin layout on both, or should I do pin up on one and/or surface change to make them more different?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 3 ай бұрын
I would do different layout AND different layout!
@oklahomaseniorbowling9412
@oklahomaseniorbowling9412 4 ай бұрын
Would you please give the dual angle lay outs also? Thanks
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
30x4.5x30
@oklahomaseniorbowling9412
@oklahomaseniorbowling9412 4 ай бұрын
@@LuisNapoles thank you sir
@knep24
@knep24 4 ай бұрын
I love my phaze ii. I wonder if/when the Velocity Core will get the AI treatment.
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
you just blew my mind LOL
@TheAggie4231
@TheAggie4231 3 ай бұрын
Definitely would like to see this in the Phaze line. Something like a P2.1
@aaronspringborn34
@aaronspringborn34 4 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I do not know if I told you this yet I finally got my hands on my very first phase too late last month and I have a two ball arsenal now with my IQ tour solid, so I finally have my dream ball originally got the IQ tour when I talk to my Proshop because I want to control as a beginner which definitely did do that for me but I wanted some more action and flare so I can clearly see the difference in shape like you said they both have low RG but what differentiates between the two I have is the higher differential has a unique shape, and the right circumstances shapes well with a good strikes when it doesn’t work, my solid stays a little more straight and it does not shape as much. I am very inconsistent but my scores are getting a little bit better slowly, but surely I may ask what are you planning to do when it comes to bowling ball, reviews and or comparisons plus are you still maybe thinking about doing tutorials/drill videos for us to get better with our game? Thank you you have a good rest of your day.😀🎳
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Thats a great one two punch!
@brianlevandowski3167
@brianlevandowski3167 4 ай бұрын
So the optimum idol is a nano “Micro” base cover correct? The older now gone Idol Pro was a solid cover with no nano, basically R2s base. Is that right ?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
no idea LOL I just know its the same cover as the OG Idol
@jaywhey8822
@jaywhey8822 4 ай бұрын
Luke Rosdahl mentioned in one of his reviews that it is indeed the same base formula of the OG idol, just with the nano tech added. So you are correct!
@GennyI3eerDrinkr
@GennyI3eerDrinkr 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the Optimum. I had a p2 before, and I was largely disappointed. Same goes for the OG idol. neither complimented my game. I wonder when they're going to wrap the velocity core with the AI outer core. call it the next phaze :P
@dom2668
@dom2668 4 ай бұрын
Kool aid looking good!
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Not wrong!
@christopherjonathynbrooks
@christopherjonathynbrooks 4 ай бұрын
Good morning Luis Napoles
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Hello!
@christopherjonathynbrooks
@christopherjonathynbrooks 4 ай бұрын
@@LuisNapoles how are you doing today Luis Napoles
@michaeltovrea7947
@michaeltovrea7947 4 ай бұрын
Never had a Phase 2, but I hear good things..
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
It's an all time great ball !
@michaeltovrea7947
@michaeltovrea7947 4 ай бұрын
@LuisNapoles is there a need for the Optimum and the Phase2 in the same bag?
@moose2372
@moose2372 3 ай бұрын
I am quickly falling in love with the reality check to I can throw it on the fresh or in transition sometimes the xponent doesn't leave my bag I go reality check to xponent pearl
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff man!
@moose2372
@moose2372 3 ай бұрын
Luis in your opinion for bench mark ball for league phaze2 or xponent
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 3 ай бұрын
Depends on oil volume
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl 4 ай бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling ball roto grip optimum idol bowling ball with ai technology in the bowling ball more strike and spares hitting power at time Luis napples
@johnfoster1979
@johnfoster1979 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos and find them to be very helpful. However, I’m not a fan of the turn around and talk to the camera after every shot. Let us see the ball more and give us a summary at the end of the video like you used to.
@acclaimgaragedoorsllc5109
@acclaimgaragedoorsllc5109 4 ай бұрын
Fresh haircut 💯
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
yup!
@acclaimgaragedoorsllc5109
@acclaimgaragedoorsllc5109 4 ай бұрын
@@LuisNapoles Optimum & Helios in the bag for that RG Jutsu
@adamabdelaziz4586
@adamabdelaziz4586 4 ай бұрын
I just got the Phaze II
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Nice! How do you like it
@adamabdelaziz4586
@adamabdelaziz4586 4 ай бұрын
I love it
@garybryant1225
@garybryant1225 4 ай бұрын
My favorite ball. It’s an all time great ball.
@jaywhey8822
@jaywhey8822 4 ай бұрын
I just sold my phaze 2 after 9 games. 👀
@shadowzia229
@shadowzia229 4 ай бұрын
@@jaywhey8822How come? I’ve tried out my friend’s Phaze II and to me it seems to jumpy and responds really hard and fast.
@larrylacroix3944
@larrylacroix3944 4 ай бұрын
If you only bowl on house shot it would be nice to see
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
I shoot this on house shots as well!
@Faturtle1337
@Faturtle1337 4 ай бұрын
summit vs idol?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Ill make that happen
@TheAggie4231
@TheAggie4231 3 ай бұрын
Would like to see this also. Thinking about the Idol, attention star, and maybe the absolute power. Currently have a summit, P2, and xponent. All 3 give me different options, bowl 2 different houses.
@badguykp3000
@badguykp3000 4 ай бұрын
everyone loves the phaze 2 but idk i’ve had mine for like two weeks and im just not that good with it. my highest with it is only 189 :/
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Not all of us are gonna match up with every ball! But give it some more tome!
@badguykp3000
@badguykp3000 4 ай бұрын
much love man will do
@ianhoneycutt3858
@ianhoneycutt3858 4 ай бұрын
What is the core that you hope gets the AI treatment the most?
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Centripetal C3 core from the !Q series and the Velocity core
@johnnyhughes5297
@johnnyhughes5297 4 ай бұрын
I liked the optimum item better.
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Same same
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 4 ай бұрын
@@LuisNapoles you prefer the optimum over the p2?
@BigDangerous311
@BigDangerous311 4 ай бұрын
Big haircut! 😂
@erikknudson3077
@erikknudson3077 4 ай бұрын
you need specto on your reviews...........
@altonrobinson8402
@altonrobinson8402 4 ай бұрын
Not excited, it overlaps with balls I already have.
@LuisNapoles
@LuisNapoles 4 ай бұрын
Which balls? Just wondering is all
@crazycajunj7273
@crazycajunj7273 4 ай бұрын
Phaze 2…. Why? Because it’s the Phaze 2 lol
@Vietboy004
@Vietboy004 4 ай бұрын
Dude are you just recording your strike shots noway u cant strike all day with that swing lol
@scott.church
@scott.church 4 ай бұрын
How do you think it stacks up against the Cosmos? I feel they may overlap because of how strong the Cosmos cover is.
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