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Rough In Roundup: How Much Does it Cost to Flip a House?

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Күн бұрын

Rough ins are common when flipping older houses with outdated electrical, plumbing, HVAC, and drainage systems. While most people think that the granite countertops and new light fixtures are what drive a fix and flip budget, in reality, it’s these big system replacements that take up the bulk of a flipping budget. With all the different systems you need to replace, how do you know how much they’ll cost?
James Dainard, house-flipping expert at Heaton Dainard Real Estate, has done heavy renovations dozens of times with different home styles, ages, and material types. He walks through the eleven major costs you should account for when walking through a potential deal or a new property under contract.
Knowing general costs is good, but knowing local costs is an even better way to ensure you’re accurately calculating profit. The more houses you rehab, the better you’ll get at making quick estimates like James can!
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00:00 What is a Rough-In?
01:22 Before You Buy Your Next Deal
01:44 #1 Demo Costs
02:41 #2 Toxic Removal Costs
03:40 #3 Electrical Costs
04:54 #4 Plumbing Costs
06:27 #6 Drainage Costs
07:25 #7 Framing Costs
08:14 #8 Seismic Costs
08:58 #9 HVAC Costs
09:46 #10 Insulation Costs
10:56 #11 Siding Costs
11:33 Calculating Your Local Costs
12:28 2 Questions to Ask Contractors
14:15 Property Walkthrough

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@Ceoguywithai
@Ceoguywithai 2 жыл бұрын
Do more of such videos with On Field explanations. They add a Helpful element to the presentation.
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
We will keep them coming! Check out our KZfaq channel and we tons of on site walk throughs!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Hey BiggerPockets community- James here!! I hope you all enjoy our newest episode! Let us know in the comments if this content was useful for your REI journey 💪
@osmanmohiuddin1
@osmanmohiuddin1 2 жыл бұрын
James how did you first start?
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
@@osmanmohiuddin1 I started knocking doors when I was a sr in college for an investment company!
@RichardGolding07
@RichardGolding07 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using copper or pvc for your plumbing lines?
@nova31337
@nova31337 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardGolding07 you can look in the video, for water supplies you can see PEX piping.
@nova31337
@nova31337 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video James! Gonna be hopping over to your channel to check out your other videos!
@gregoryashley7963
@gregoryashley7963 2 жыл бұрын
"No wonder he was so cranky." LOL Thanks for the very informative and well shot video!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thanks!!
@lailaatallah1857
@lailaatallah1857 2 жыл бұрын
This is BEYOND helpful, James!! And, having you do a site walk through while explaining was so much more helpful. I’d love to see some videos talking about material costs, and how that works with contractors. Also, if you could do some videos, going a little slower and more in depth on many of the renovation projects you briefly touched on here (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, seismic, roof, siding, insulation, kitchen only, bathroom only, etc.), that would be great. Also, perhaps a video devoted to the whole budgeting and negotiating process, with either a general contractors or subcontractors. Also a video on what are generally the big cost differences (and specific items) on merely cosmetic renovations vs more in-depth renovations, going all the way up to a full gut and build out.
@markfloors6988
@markfloors6988 2 жыл бұрын
Hey James, I've been following you since I recognized you on bigger pockets, your knowledge is broad, keep up the good work buddy!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mark!!!!!
@ChauvyRocco
@ChauvyRocco Жыл бұрын
What a wizard. Knowing figures off too is impressive man.
@nrsternes
@nrsternes Жыл бұрын
Truly well put together James! Wow! Thanks for the exhaustive run thru!
@greenbeard_actual
@greenbeard_actual Жыл бұрын
wish I could like this video twice. Good stuff!
@InvestorMelDaveDupuis
@InvestorMelDaveDupuis 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, James! More, please!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Working on it!
@donaldlee6760
@donaldlee6760 2 жыл бұрын
At 14:20 - Flipping houses must be terribly difficult if it takes 12 months (through no fault of your own) just to get to this rough stage. Don't you have to still pay property taxes, interest on your loan, home insurance (is your home insurance priced similar to a regular homeowner?), and I assume water and electricity is turned on. When you finally sell, you then have all the typical selling costs. I assume you're either a realtor or broker but I also assume it's mathematically correct and fair to still include the 5% realtor commission fee as that's a lost opportunity cost (I'm not a CPA so I'm just guessing, I'd like to hear from a CPA on this). You likely also pay a property transfer tax. Where I live, Oakland California, this is 1.5% under $2M paid by the seller. Then after selling, you pay federal + state tax on the gain. I'm surprised flipping is still worth it after all the up-front money plus substantial selling costs and risk you put in.
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - but we factor for long hold times in our proforma in certain cities. Going into this deal we factored 15 months because we new the city was backed up from the pandemic. As long as you prep for the costs correctly there is still a great margin. Luckily we are heading into drywall and it takes us about 8 weeks to finish after drywall is complete. Won’t be too over on holding expense but the cash on cash return goes down. Big fixers need big margins to make it pencil right.
@dweidemann
@dweidemann 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! This is one of those “save for later, save forever” quality of videos. Excellent knowledge & easy to apply tips.
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@danielvillagra7292
@danielvillagra7292 2 жыл бұрын
BP, thank you for the great content. Anyone able to recommend a website, app or service that does a line-by-line breakdown on a rehab? Would love to then import local material/labor costs into it and create more formal system. Thanks!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
We are doing a video on how to create your own budget sheet! Will post soon!
@KevinSmith-gw5rk
@KevinSmith-gw5rk 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. Thank you James
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@Stp1974
@Stp1974 2 жыл бұрын
Such good information. Thank you for going into such detail.
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kukuna2012
@kukuna2012 2 жыл бұрын
James, you are so knowledgable! What do you recommend to newbie the best method to gain constrcution knowledge? taking classes? learning from real flip? thanks
@connorcarlin6056
@connorcarlin6056 2 жыл бұрын
Great Content James & BP!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@emilelefebvre3315
@emilelefebvre3315 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos ! Thx James !
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mckinley8185
@mckinley8185 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Daytona
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
👀
@rantsrus8203
@rantsrus8203 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot the most important part, what market? california is way different than oklahoma etc.
@ge7252
@ge7252 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@allinnetworks
@allinnetworks 2 жыл бұрын
hey! love it! can you comment with some fence prices?? i think you said $60/ft in another video?
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Typically we pay $22lf. With lumber shortages it has been more around$30lf
@sstefaniak1103
@sstefaniak1103 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@JDT738126
@JDT738126 2 жыл бұрын
These numbers seem totally bogus. You guys must be doing all the work at the actual cost. Contractor rates are way higher than the numbers he’s quoting. At least in my area.....
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
What area are you in? Might want to explore different vendors..
@nachosucker653
@nachosucker653 2 жыл бұрын
Who would thumbs-down this video?!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dennisnoone7427
@dennisnoone7427 2 жыл бұрын
Great information, but the contractor is messy and rough-ins are sloppy
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yasminmata1313
@yasminmata1313 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know about Architectural and Engineering costs because I’m doing my fist project Engineering was 7k and architecture (drawings and schematics) 13k. Are these numbers correct?
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
How big is the property? That seems awfully high for engineering. What’s the scope they are doing? I would price this out.
@yasminmata1313
@yasminmata1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectRE The house had foundation issues, so decided to build an ADU. The house is a little less than a 1000 sqft. and has a dirt basement big enough to build an ADU. I am not sure if location plays into it but the is in Los Angeles, CA.
@nachosucker653
@nachosucker653 2 жыл бұрын
The key takeaway for me here is that he had all of his costs memorized.
@mr.g937
@mr.g937 2 жыл бұрын
He appeared to be looking at notes off-camera...
@nachosucker653
@nachosucker653 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.g937 I thought the same thing but during the walkthrough he had the numbers at the tip of his tongue
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
@@nachosucker653 it’s all about communication with your vendors!
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.g937 flow of the video :)
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
And I’m more than happy to take a interview quiz :)
@bldfinancial
@bldfinancial 2 жыл бұрын
🔥 🔥 🔥
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
💨
@brady_morgan
@brady_morgan 2 жыл бұрын
You say roofing is $100-$600 per square foot? This must be a mistake. That would make a roof on even a small home hundreds of thousands of dollars.
@dannykent6190
@dannykent6190 2 жыл бұрын
He meant a "square," which in roofing terms is 100 square feet.
@brady_morgan
@brady_morgan 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannykent6190 Thanks. I figured it must be something like that even though he specifically said per square foot on the “presidential roof.” I was not aware of the industry term.
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
Danny is right! Measured by square footage of roof dimensions.
@metalboy27
@metalboy27 2 жыл бұрын
I paused and went back a couple times like "wait... wha...??" Lol 600k for a 1000 sq ft roof?! That would be insane! Forgot "square" meant 100 in that case.
@jakekroll9681
@jakekroll9681 2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt sound like a flip rebuilding a 1920s house gut rehab
@ProjectRE
@ProjectRE 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what we have to do in the Seattle area. Olllllld bones!
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