I liked the conversation at the end about winning. I'm a fan of F1 and there's a reason why up and coming drivers say you have to have a certain mentality about not giving any ground to Hamilton (for example) because you respect him too much. I think this conversation is universal in competition. It's interesting you had the conversation so openly.

I agree that high-level fixed games (ESPECIALLY with zombies) are a lot more interesting to watch when fog is on. These settings were particularly problematic because it's basically a stalemate until the zombies decide to infect the next player (basically eliminating them). So if you got infected early on, you'd be safe, but if your stack of 120 gets infected, you lose immediately. It's just going to be random and doesn't particularly reward skillful play. Just add fog to these settings and you'll have a more interesting game

Pete I’ve played maybe 100 games of online risk in my entire life. I haven’t played in ages. But I can’t stop enjoying your videos.

Jesus Pete when I started watching u 4 days ago you were only on like 11k and earlier you were on 15.7k now 16k and you deserve it all much love

Hey Pete! I found your channel last week and i've now seen half a dozen of your videos. How do you stay so happy and wholesome? Much love from the UK

With regard to the conversation starting around 1:06:00, about cheating, I have some thoughts. The most important thing to remember is that you can NEVER completely eliminate cheating. Cheaters will find a way, no matter what you do. So when you compromise the game to "stop" cheaters, all you get a compromised game. If you can make cheating harder while making changes that aren't detrimental to the game, then great. Do those things. But there's no end to the rabbit hole of "Let's just compromise the game a little bit because we're afraid of cheaters." It's best to just not go down it, and accept that some amount of cheaters will need to be dealt with the hard way. Will the cheaters ruin some games before they get caught? Yes, they will. But that's better than ruining ALL games in the mistaken belief that doing so eliminated the cheaters.

This discussion about 'pity wins' is something you see in other sports as well. It's called, perhaps euphemistically, 'giving respect'.

Hi Pete! I randomly got into risk recently after playing it with some friends and I just wanted to say that I've absolutely loved watching your content. You're so knowledgable and good at imparting that knowledge too, and just a really nice guy so keep it up! :D

Thanks for adjusting the Discord volume. Honestly, I've been binge hating on your videos all week, until this one. This was your first "like" from me. Your realization of the dynamics of your position within the community was insightful, humble, and honest. I think I will try out this game, now.

Interesting conversation at the end. As for Pete accepting "pity wins" due to popularity, how is that any different from certain NBA players getting special treatment from refs because they know how to talk to them? Or because they're such big stars that the refs don't dare give them six fouls in an important game? (Which forces them to the bench) Otherwise the NBA is a balanced game, right? Yes all that is "unfair" but so is being born taller or with better muscles for jumping. Basketball's a competition, not a collaboration, so you take whatever advantage you can get. Well, that's what Pete is doing. He's turning a meta-game into a meta-meta-game, to get a small advantage. And isn't that the entire point of a game like Risk? If it wasn't, it would be a math game and I can play Sudoku to scratch that itch. Pete brings viewers precisely because he is playing the psych game, not in spite of it.

Love hearing the Comms!

Not sure who was speaking at the end but I completely agree, using fame to leverage wins in an otherwise balanced game does not seem moral

Zaombi! Zaombi! uh oo uh oo uh oo uh oo , it's in your heeeaaaad in your heeeaaad

That [TBH] real_llamas guy did some amazing moves! 😂

Competitive Tournament Games decided 100% on Computer Generated RNG will ALWAYS be the most fair way of deciding who is the best at a Skill Based Game!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know why the algorithm started sending me your way, and I also don't know why I keep watching these videos. I don't even play Risk, but I just keep watching these vids.

Dude looks like he walks a knifes edge between keeping it cool or striking his cat.

Hey Pete, I wanna congratulate you for 15k looking at your stats on social blade you’ve been gaining like 7k in the past week. Your gonna pass champ soon as the biggest risk channel. Edit; I’ve been watching since 2k and it’s crazy how fast your growing rn

Oh shit, this was today lol I started watching yesterday. I love risk and Ithank you for sharing strategy tactics and why. I also subscribed.

wow 15k subs now, it was only 5k a couple of weeks ago, keep up the great content mate, is there any chance of prog caps fog gameplay, seem to really enjoy those ones but nts if you are a fan of them after watching the end of this vid, love from the uk

Really enjoyed reading the conversation between you and Xeroxee in the live chat after you were eliminated. Loved the passive-agressiveness. Risk is a strategy game. Manipulating people is a strategy. And a skill. Don't see why people make a problem out of it. Well, besides of course jealousy...

hey pete iam very long at your channel congrats for so much new subs rooad to 20k next week good luck from germany

Underthegun master of deception and persuasion.

This game felt more like politics then Risk. Feels like a lot of high level fixed games are like that! I enjoy all your videos a lot but I think fog makes it so much enjoyable since there is a lot more unknown. Love to see your tourney videos as well, benched them all :) GG Pete!

Hope you stream again soon man, would love to finally catch you live :)

you lose some and you win some GGs Pete

I'm sure you've explained it at some point before, but why is an expert bot always included in the tournament matches? Is it necessary for hosting, or just to add a bit of a wild card?

Hi Pete, I really think you should organize a tournament so you could choose fair settings because this is painful to watch.

Informal survey. Zombies good. Fog of war good. Progressive cards good.

Congrats on 16k!

i feel like this game would be continuing right now if the zombies didn't happen to randomly infect a major stack. shame it happened to Pete, but the game likely wasn't going to be ended by those in the position to progress it.

I’m all lubed up and ready to go!!

I’ve tried a new strategy where I camp in Australia. It works really well. Have you tried something like this before?

Commenting for the algorithm ♥️

and the zombies decide it :P well played. I finally got over my anxiety about playing other people, and am having a blast! I even got practiced enough that I can play 60s without running out of time too often :} still just a novice trying to make my way in the Domination world!

Yeeeeeeeees Big pp pete

love your vids pete

Great content as always

Would settings where each players position is blind (meaning you don't know who is playing what color) improve how tournament "meta" plays?

I think the discussion towards the end about how some of the games turned out has no perfect answer, however the same problems pop up in any social game. It's impossible to completely separate what is known about a player or that person's influence from the game itself, that creates targets on a player that is known to be more skillful, or just blatantly more popular, at the same time generating advantages if they use their position outside the game to effect it. On the whole, if used correctly, these advantages and disadvantages tend to in my mind even out in the end but that does require an individual to maximize advantages to push the edge. That discussion can really only get you so far though because in the end everyone wants to win or at least go as far as they can. I don't agree at all that it's wrong to press your advantages and covering or minimizing disadvantages, if you don't do that you're not playing the game whether those are directly from the game or not. There becomes a meta within the meta of pressing advantages without pressing too far that people target you more and that's really the hardest part of playing a social game repeatedly with or infront of people you are going to play with in the future. It's like exposing your strategies to people you are going to compete against, you want to use them to win the game you're currently in, but don't want to show everything so you can win the next. Pete does walk this line really well in my opinion because (1) he owns this balance and is upfront about it (2) he knows what is too far and (3) he is honest and open about when others "assist" him more than it makes good game sense for them to do so. Most of what makes it right or wrong in my opinion comes down to the way you take it and being upfront and honest is the best way to play it in game and the game within the game.

Pete was nice here

How do you get the troop and territory counts next to each player? I play on mobile and on steam but haven't seen it, or an option in settings to turn it on.

Just curious. Can you guys work together in the beginning to take out the zombies? Do they come back if they do?

Hello pet, how do i play a true random classic fixed 4-6 no bot friendly or not with you and the gang?

There should be a Westeros Map for Risk

Have you considered playing Diplomacy? If not I HIGHLY suggest it. You would be GOOD

Are you actually located in Bhutan?

So the game just randomly picks somebody to f***** out of nowhere? Great design for the Quarterfinals of a Competitive Event!!! 👍🏼

I can't make the twitch streams, so going to ask here, how can there be a tournament when the people in the tournament negotiate the positions they get? Doesn't that get rid of the skill of the game? Long games on the table top was always the norm just as was alliances. Though I never seen a game where the players negotiate what order they go out for better points. I don't really understand that. To me that gets rid of the skills of this game.

there were so many chances to take green out early before their army multiplied

Super frustrating I can't look at others stats in mobile

What does vcc stand for?

That was a weird one...

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Under the gun went down in my esteem

The finesse/skill disappears when you can talk directly with your opponents. I like alliances cause you never really know what was meant with a "ping" etc. and its less personal - tactics only ;)

I've been watching a lot of your videos but still havent seen a single fixed game that was fun to watch. It's always a turtle fest decided on someone getting bored or people ganging up.

Pete you became to soft with these player early on the giving up the bridge. I think you choose your value system over a win on risk! Shows some character of you as a sportsman!

Hi Pete, been watching your videos religiously for months on end now and I'm hooked on Risk because of you. I know how much you like open and honest conversations so this isn't meant to be a criticism (as much as it's about to sound like it is XD). However, do you think sometimes your behaviour can be a little arrogant and sore loser(ish)? I've seen you report people for collaborating and yet you seem very happy to do the same when it benefits you. Also using your popularity to get wins in some games and to manipulate your opponents into giving you the edge doesn't seem very sportsman like to me. I think self-reflection is the best quality someone can have and just wondering if you think about this or not? This is coming from someone who is very self critical.

Not a fan of all thenplayers in VC it kills suspence and tactic talk from pete haha

Ello maté

Likeability as a skill is a bit rose-tinted. Even of the few people I have swayed over the course of my life, it has always been temporary. It feels more like it's based on a hidden charisma stat than any sort of measure of performance. I see worse attempts work and better attempts fail frequently.

There's a line where the game is over because y'all couldn't work together to prevent the zombie invasion! Playing defensively is one thing, but the longer zombies hold territories and kill player territories, the worse the outcome of the game is. Focusing on the mutual enemy seems to me to be the proper way to play the game.

I’d love to play this game but it’s to rng for me so I guess I’ll stick to watching

Pete haha, horrible at spelling, maybe inform us all in the next video or any other way, Im not that good on social

I personally think you all are playing risk incorrectly its 2 passive which causes these long games ive been watching you alot latly but evrey game has seen very similar evreyone builds up as much as they can in fear of getting teamed up on which offence can be defence in the idea of stopping bonuses is the same as perserving bonuses but im not a master of risk and im sure this is just the "meta" but i wish taking more lands would mean something in risk over just taking 1 land and sitting for the card cuz than it really just comes down to luck of the draw on locations i also think the idea of making allainces in this game is bs and also slows the game down evreyone should just make the choices thats best for them

Pete i must admit i skip this videos when i hear other guys :( . enjoy more just listening to you

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I enjoy watching your videos, must say Risk is not for me. I hate it when games stall out for short periods fo time let alone close to an hour.

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I don't like the matches where you guys are all in discord. It's too much of social engineering and not so much strategy. The person with Charisma and ability to communicate will often get a more advantageous position because of communication skills which is important in warfare but this is a strategy game not Among us. At least in alliance mode your limited on what you can say so things can be mis interrupted or not understood. But the game is significantly better to watch as a viewer when the games aren't discord games. Now Discord games where fog of war is on and alliances is off would be great because then it becomes an actual tactic how much information you give away and too who. But the first hour of this game is hard to watch because of the fact you are in discord and we all know what is going to happen. I'm speaking to pure entertainment value of your content. Fog of war, no alliance discord games are much more enjoyable to watch. Of course this is just my opinion and I might differ from the rest of people which I often do lol. Thanks for the videos. Edit: At 1:06 you actually talk about what I'm saying. This was hard to watch. All the games where everyone is in discord are hard to watch for me though.

Gonna be honest, not a fan of zombies mode.

Well that game sucked to watch ngl 😂 didn't really seem skill based at all just bullshit and waiting until zombies decide who dies

You spent way too much time protecting white and purple from Zombies.

Found this channel and have bingewatched all week while sick. Seems to me you really blew your chances of winning this game back at the 19 or 20 minute mark. You had stabilized and locked down your farm, and controlled the hallway leading to the next one on the right. Instead of aggressively seeking to secure that farm, you were content to let the Zombies have it, and they eventually infested you anyway. It would have cost you a lot of troops early on, and taken a number of turns, but securing that farm would have more than made up for it in the long run. You would have quickly gained the lead in troops and been able to dictate the course of the game better. Clearly no one was interested in coming after you. Any reasons why you did not go after it? Secondly, at the 23:30 mark, you abandoned the crossroads, and let Black and Orange start receiving cards. Any reason why? I'd have pointed to the zombies and told them to earn their own card. It's not like they are particularly hard to kill, and having those 2 fighting the zombies advances your game plan as well. Orange expended way too many troops fighting zombies for a card, which was giving Black a free card as well. Tyler seems to have played that poorly, though I realize he was in a tight spot. This was a very poor game all around, IMO. What is your recap? Love watching your vids, and I've learned a lot.

Fixed is so boring

Wide open chat makes the game worse and longer than it should be. You're channel doesn't need it.