Gone are the days with indicators big enough to see properly in bright sunshine!

Used to drive a few of these back in the day and owned a 220 turbo coupe. Always annoys me to see the keyboard warriors spouting off about how rubbish Rovers were .. its simply not true, these cars were as good if not better than anything else at the time. The K series was so smooth and advanced compared to Ford and Vauxhall equivalents at its launch.

Rover is always in my heart. I felt devastated when the news came out that the inevitable had happened, their bankruptcy. Such a history gone again.

Thanks for reviewing it Ian. It's definitely a keeper and I'll do my best to keep it as healthy and maintained as possible.

My Dad worked at Rover in the early 90's while I was an infant and would regularly come home covered in specs of nightfire red.

This is a nice one! Absolutely immaculate car, clearly very well looked after. Rare to see such a nice example, should attract many admiring looks at a car show.

Big fan of the K-Series here. I have had many K cars and currently own a 2002 MG TF 160 and an MG6 that uses a beefed up version of the 1.8 Turbo K

I remember the first time I drove one of these, after owning a Maestro, and I was amazed at how good they were in comparison. It has dated very well and is still a good looking car. Nice review Ian, and some happy memories.

I had a Metro Gti as a driving school car.165,000 miles no issues. Original clutch, and only 3 disc and pad changes.Written off by a knob in an uninsured Transit, the engine was sold and ended up in a Caterham . Cam belt, Antifreeze, water pump change every 50,000,and radiator changed at 100,000. Great car.

_(edited because of Primary 2 spelling)_ - Now, I have to say, that's a superb example. Lovely colour. Spotless inside and out. That engine bay is a mechanical dinner plate. Inside is bright and very well kept. This is a credit to the previous keepers, and the current one. A show piece if ever there was one (probably even museum quality!). The steering wheel at first seemed an odd design to me, but when you were on the road, it dawned that the open design at the top was so you could get a clear view of the instrument panel/clocks. Damn good idea!

The early K series were brilliant engines, the big issues comes from when BMW took over Rover and tried to cheapen the build of the K series engines, they changed the metal head dowels to plastics, these cracked and caused the heads to move which blew head gaskets

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I passed my test in a K series engined Metro. the year after I passed, BSM switched to the new Corsa. Have to say, I really got on with the little 1.4 Metro. Maybe i have rose tinted glasses on, but I remember it being pretty nippy. and I always remember some pearls of wisdom from my driving instructor. Don't be afraid to use the throttle (which I invariably did!), it will get you out of as much situations as the brakes will.

Absolutely love the acres of beige, good engineering, light and flat Eric! The R8 to me was the perfect blend of modern and traditional sensibility and no stupid computers or useless tat found on modern cars. Great review Ian!

Rover would have survived and prospered with Honda - BMW finally killed it

I love the R8 really need another. Engines are not as bad as they made out. Look after them and they are sweet. Really nice example.

The K Series as said doesn’t tolerate coolant loss very well at all, a low coolant alarm would have helped mitigate this. It also didn’t help that head gaskets were often changed without investigating the reason for the loss of coolant assuming that it was always the head gasket in the first place, the replacement would pop soon after.

No, never rubbish! Great car and a cut above anything else on the market at the time. I’m getting one early 414 soon, so I can’t wait! There was far too much publicity in regards to HGF and everyone else forgot that engine from other cars also had their pitfalls. On the power, that engine being a multipoint injection, would have 102/3bhp. The earlier single point cars had 95. Also, the reason why they had an adapted Peugeot gearbox for the 1.4 cars was because it was cheaper than developing a new one. The 1.6 had its own Honda gearbox, hence why autos were only available on the 1.6 too.

Nice example good colour and comes with the optional extra of Fox's Glacier mints in the door pocket.

I've owned 2 in my life the first was a two tone K plate 214 and the second was that colour, M plate 214 SEi with half leather. Both cracking cars and great fun to drive.

Having lived in the UK in the 1990's I remember seeing these everywhere. They were very popular, just not able to compete with Ford and Vauxhall in the fleets. I got to ride in some of these and also the 200, and I remember being impressed by the comfort, ride and quality. I had a 1.3 Escort which felt a lot more plastic and thrown together. What an amazing example your friend found, it looks showroom fresh. My favorite of the entire range was the estate.

Very nice car indeed, so well kept for its age. Hopefully it stays that way, too.

Rover should have been sold to Honda instead of BMW, I'm sure we would still have rovers being made today.

That one is the multi-point injection with 103bhp. The earlier single point injection models were 95bhp ish.

I bought and sold loads of these, 214/414, they were great, never had any bother, bought most with body damage and fixed them, didn't rust as bad as Ford Escorts and were generally nice to drive, with a light airy feel, Ialso had a 416gti with the full leather, different engine I know but was fun to drive and quite quick.

Wasn't aware that the front suspension was different in the Rover and the Honda. Exemplary 3 point turning skills. Hint of what could have been possibly, but don't ever stop showing these Austin, Morris or Rover gems. Love them all. I'm sure the people who designed them and built them had a love for them and a pride in them.

The revving engine reminded me of Matt's intro on Furious Driving 😆

That is an immaculate example, inside and out, and even under the bonnet! A credit to its owner:) Lovely car!

It brings back memories as a nipper riding around in a red/grey Rover 214 SLi back in the early 90's. I loved the walnut wood it had as well. Engine wise we never had a problem with it. I always thought the head gasket issues only affected the 1.8 but sounds like it effected it the 1.1, and 1.4 as well.

We used to hire these Rovers back in the 90s to follow tarmac rallies in Ireland and I can tell you after a weekend of hard driving they were a dam good car good reving engine and not to bad handling on Irish lanes easy run as well

Yay - no sandals! On a different note, Rover should have been sold to Honda, not BMW. It would probably be still going had it been.

Great video, I had a MGTF 160, 18 months old when purchased in 2004. The head gasket failed at 24,000 miles. The car was serviced correctly. The garage that repaired it replaced the plastic Rover cylinder liner shims with metal ones and an upgraded head gasket. No more problems. I’ve uploaded a video to my channel after watching your video on the risks of running older vehicles. Appreciate it if you take a look and share it. Possibly help save lives.

Lovely car. Aronline is awesome, the hours fly by there

I’ve got a 1.8 K-series in my 2003 Freelander, it’s been nothing but completely reliable, surprisingly fuel efficient (considering the Freelander isn’t a light car) and best of all, really good fun. It pulls well too, on and off the road, just seems to have a really wide power range. Definitely a better engine than the reputation it unfortunately can’t shake despite the later Ks (post bad gasket and plastic dowels) seem to be quite dependable. I’m at 140,000 miles, I think it’ll keep going as long as it’s looked after. Also remember my great uncle who worked for Rover owning on of those Rovers, quite comfortable.

Compliments to the owner. Very clean car. Very nice indeed!

dude,flat eric from 1999 mr oizo (flat beats) what a tune and video,

The K series engine was a great engine, if looked after and not neglected. Nice amount of power and torque, i had the next model 416 SI.

A friend's parents had a brand new 1984 rover 213SE as a lada 1500 driver at the time,I was blown away by how fast, spacious,well equipped and good handling car it was. Engine revved for fun and the dash (with its 414 simplicity) was fantastic.

Ian you are brilliant excellent video what a lovely old car it's a shame they don't use colours in cars any more instead of bloody awful black and grey

Incidentally, I owned a Rover 200 of similar vintage (k reg), It had the old indicators but had the grille. I paid £275 and it was utterly reliable for the entire time I owned it, a brilliant car. I loved it despite the lack of power steering & only 3 working speakers, great engine too!

The Engine if you ignore the head problems is a gem as the 1.8 K series was used in the Lotus Elise and that is an amazing car

In the rover 25 and 200 when the engine really suffered... Check the metal cooling pipes for corrosion as they can rot thru. remove the thermostat from its housing and fit the upgraded part which fits at the top of the engine thus easier to change in future but more importantly reduces heat shock to the head. heat shock to the block due to thermostat failure and placement one reason they go. Another reason is the very thin single wall inlet manifold gasket between the coolant passages that enter the head they can leak outside and down the rear of the block, or internally as pressure builds into cyl 1 or 4, or both, leads to running lumpy on startup till the coolant burns off, if it gets really bad the engine can't crank from hydrostatic lock. Replacing the inlet gasket does not always cure it as the plastic manifold tends to pinch the gasket more at the fixings, this can be remedied by fitting the vvc aluminium inlet to get a better flush seal. Another issue is resovior caps are crappy and are not always airtight after coming on and off a few times, this causes the coolant to boil as can the above gasket issue causing the head failure not desirable after just doing the head! There is a ball bearing valve in the plastic inlet manifold, the tiniest bit of crud in the coolant blocks it and then coolant flow around the head is massively reduced. Removing the ball bearing from the brass housing solves this. Most garages do the head work and dont even address the causes, that is why a lot fail again and again. The radiators are so cheap after hgf they should be replaced, all the hoses and expansion tank should be flushed or replaced and the ball bearing removed from the inlet to avoid the tiniest bit of mayo blocking the system again. Do all these things and change the coolant regular and it's not too bad an engine. as you can see I've been there and done it a few times. The worst thing about the k series is finding someone who actually knows the engine well and it's flaws to solve them, the mpg was never as good as stated and the fact it couldn't pull the skin off rice pudding In 1.4 guise, zero torque! Thats why although it can be made reliable the cars they put it in are, to most, not worth the repair bill, unless you can d. I. Y it. The early k series like this one are slightly better reliability I hear. My advice is buy the 1.6 Honda unit save yourself the trouble, and enjoy the revvy, perky, quick responsive fun nature it has in comparison.

Seeing Flat Eric in the back did it for me. Mine sits pride of place in the back of my 95 mini sidewalk. 👌🏻

The condition of the car body and engine is amazing. Someone has put a lot of love into that little rover. Nice one.

Touching a huge lump of wood here, but I've had 5 K series (Still have a MGF) and a Kv6 and I've never had HGF. The R8 was a cracking car when you compare it with its contemporary Volvo 440. It was a thoroughly well appointed car at launch in 1989. My Dad was tempted out if a 1990 Volvo 740 into a 94 214 SEI. It was a wonderful little car with very period Frey half leather interior. Well built but my Dad quickly fell back in love with Volvo. It was swapped for a late model 940 Wentworth Turbo.

I had two R8s. The first was a 416GTI. For the day, it was fully loaded with leather seats, electric sunroof and electric windows. You could cruise in comfort and if you wanted to thrash it, it would take on Golf GTIs and XR3is. Had it for 5 years and nothing went wrong. The second was a 216 GSi which was my station car that I picked up for a hundred quid from the salvage yard but with nothing wrong but a broken rear light. The 8 valve engine was nowhere near as good as the 16v but it still ran like clockwork. My mother in law had a 214 with the K series and that was a money pit. I definitely think the Honda powered cars were way better than the Rover powered ones.

I had a 420GSi Executive in Nordic blue as my second car. I secretly loved it (as a 23 year old I didn't let my friends know that). It had every option available on it except Aircon.

Your reviews are spot on. Big Rover fan myself and I own two K-series powered MGs, the K is very much maligned.

What a beauty and not a line out of place.

318.000 km since January 1993 on our white 414GSi Still runs brilliant! I love this red here and I'm jealous of the engine bay condition. The car looks like brand new. My congratulations to the owner!

Such lovely cars. Maybe because in Aus, the Honda Concertos didn't last very well and you never see them, but I don't see Honda when I look at these at all, just a lovely Rover. They didn't even sell in Aus but I have seen more Rovers on KZfaq than Honda Concertos in real life! What a beautiful example too. Cheers

HubNut looking for Clannad album, finds Simply Red instead. "You cannot be Sirius!" As TDS123 says, the early K series engines were cracking units, but in a different way to the later ones! I remember hiring a 1.1 Metro and marvelling at how much more grown up it was than my 1.0 A+ series powered Metro Mayfair. A bit like certain versions of Windows, I wondered how much better the Metro would have fared with that engine/'box upgrade a lot earlier.

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That car is immaculate! Wow! I have a 1994 Rover 416SLi which I have owned since 1997 👍🏻

This takes me back. Owned a 214Si then a 216 Coupe in red followed by another 216 Coupe in silver. Recently found out that the guy I sold my red Coupe to in 1997ish still owns it. It’s been off the road in a garage for the last 15 years or so but he is getting it back on the road... really looking forward to taking my old car for a drive again over 23years after I sold it!

That looks like a fantastic example, used to love the Rover R8's, they were very much ahead of their time compared to Astra's and Escorts of the same era.

We had one of these at work as a pool car back in the day. It was easily the most popular car in the pool and the step change in quality from things like the Montego was huge.

The K series is a fantastic engine but the coolant was achilles heal. It was designed from the outset to have a small coolant capacity for quick warm up. But if there was a leak, the low coolant sensor was halfway up the block and if the level dropped that low, the head gasket was good. The head gasket material used was originally was of top quality, it was only after BMW took over that to save money, lower quality gasket material was used and this is where the poor reputation of this engine started. I love these cars, they were in my view the best design of the '90's. To my eternal regret I never bought one of these . I did however owned a 1.1 8 valve K series Metro. That engine is the sweetest, quietest, most fuel efficient engine ever. An absolute honey of an engine. The gearbox by the way was heavily re-engineered by Rover as the original Peugeot box was a bit loose.

I owned an old 214 si 2 door with the k series, about 12 years ago, had it for a year put 20k on it and it was a superb car, and the engine performed perfectly, performance was excellent for a 1.4, quite quick, and 40 plus mpg, sold to a friend at work, who kept it for another year eventually succumbed to rust. Great car, would drive one right now

My first company car right there. Ironically this car helped me ferry around components used in missiles, satellites and F1 cars. Happy days 😂😁

A really good looking car in its day and certainly appears to be very well put together. The collaboration with Honda was a bit of a golden age for Rover. What a shame that it didn't continue.

Concerto/400-series, absurdly beautiful cars. Always loved them. And what a beautiful colour this one has. Very tasty.

Love it whenever you put up a video on Rover everyone wished it was still around and blame BMW for its demise. Bet the same ones were those that bought Peugeots, Fords, VWs and Vauxhalls over Rovers from the era this car was made.

My dad had one of these in white in the early 90's when I was 10ish I think. It seemed a bit posh. He replaced it with a BX that quickly developed a squeaky suspension noise at low speed that used to embarrass me enough that I used to make him drop me off around the corner from the school. I sounded like a bed that being vigorously used for adult purposes.

I had a Metro GTI 16v as a little runabout way back and I hammered that little thing to bits .The engine never failed once . Fun little car .

I had two 1.8 K-series engined Rovers, put many miles on both with no head gasket issues. Traded the second one in against a super-reliable-and-allegedly-invincible Toyota, which blew the head gasket within 500 miles. Just my luck! I'll always love that shape Rover 400, I had a 420 GSi which was an absolute delight to own. Nothing fancy inside, nothing fancy to go wrong! They seem to have all disappeared at once, they used to be everywhere, now it's rare to see one.

I had a brand new L reg 418SLD Turbo as a company car in the 1994. Gearbox lasted 250 miles went back to dealer found to have no oil in from factory! Was great after that! Always liked the design on these!

Thanks Ian, and it's in decent condition, too! That clutch travel is definitely excessive, and might indicate a developing problem. All three pedals should rise to about the same level, if everything is in order. We had a Rover 111 with a fuel-injected K Series engine; one of the last ones made. It lasted for almost 19 years of standing for several days, then working quite hard, repeatedly. 16 of them were under our ownership., That little car went all over Central England, including going up and down rural North Wales hills on holidays each year, fully loaded, often with 4 occupants. That's hills with gradients of 1:4 or even steeper, on some of those Welsh farm lanes. That little car could hold a true 70 mph on motorways for as long as you liked, and averaged over 50 mpg during its lifetime. It did a steady 53 mpg on long A and B road runs at up to 55 mph. We never revved it really hard, except for 2nd gear on the steepest Welsh hills. The head gasket went at the end of our ownership, and it ended up as one of the last 200 of that model on the road, before we traded it in. Happily, it did go to another owner. We didn't know about the need for thorough warming before working it hard, so took no extra precautions to cater for that. Coolant levels were always well-maintained. For once, rust did not kill off a small Rover which had a design life of only 7 years, even though it stood on city streets for nearly all of that time. 😉 I've only seen 1 Metro and one other Rover 111 over the past 5 years. They're becoming as uncommon as hen's teeth. (Hint, hint!)

My brother in law had one of these, a lovely car,smooth and comfortable[mind you ,his was brand new] head gaskets were a combination of poor components and design and not helped with poor maintenance but lots of cars in the 70,s and 80,s also suffered HGF for the same reasons.

Nice colour. Brought back nice memories of my H plate R8 a white 214SLi. Early Si's didnt get the walnut (real) trim on the doors. So much better than the Orion at the time in my opinion 😊

It was a lovely car.I had a Rover 414 SLi.It had had never broken down..Very well equipped, beautiful and fast..It was the dominator of it's class and not only... Excellent car !

Mr Hub nut, had 2 k-series engined rover R8 1.4 & 1.6. Rock solid, no gasket issues. Kept serviced. Only issue was the steel coolant pipes rotted that went around the back of the engine.

Fab package these in period one of the last truly competitive car's Rover produced, 75 not with standing.

My Mother had a 414 Si just like this one. Hers was a 1994 model and the plate was M91 MDA. Tax was due in 2006 so I'm guessing it's been crushed or SORN since. Not a bad car to be fair, lovely blue with black interior, sunroof and the wood wrap around the dash, and the suspension was extremely soft. Good memories watching this review!

I see so many different styling cues on this; roofline reminds me of a Montego, belt line and taillamps, Honda. Once inside, definitely Honda. A magnificent example! Brilliant video!

Oh wow! That brings back memories. I had a 418tdi for 15 years, exactly like this one apart from white paint. It was a joy to drive and ate miles like no tomorrow, often taking me the length of the country at 55 mpg. Good times before speed cameras on motorways. Did over 300k miles before the rear bumper nearly fell off due to the mounting brackets corroding. An easy fix. I regret selling it to this day.

Worcestershire car on Startins plates I love it. We had a Metro GTi from Startins in Worcester in 1993.

Bertie Bassett, Flat Eric and the Staypuft marshmallow man on the back seat. I thoroughly approve.

Nightfire red has to be top 5 if not top 3 Rover colours

The test car engine was very reliable. Metal inlet manifold and the piston liners were a different design. It's the later one's with plastic manifolds that only leaked when the engine was cold, and the wet liner design that were troublesome. The water pumps were prone to weeping a little to. They only hold around 5 to 5 1/2 litres of coolant with the expansion tank holding 1 litre so any leaks and it would overheat causing the head gasket to blow. that was the most common failure. Sometimes the engine oil would find it's was in to the coolant. I've replaced more head gaskets on these than i've had hot dinners lol. They are a cracking engine though when looked after, very revvy, and would pull like a train from 4000rpm. I once had a brand new 2001 Rover 25 1.4, the 103bhp version, do over 130mph. It was at 6000rpm in 5th gear. Was a very quick car, would race anything with it.

My 1st car was a 1991 Rover 416 GTi a hand me down from Dad when his work gave him a brand new Mondeo, all I got from the 416 was learning to fix the engine.

Had a '95 Rover 214SEi in that exact colour. Lovely car. Looked after it and it looked after me.

I’ve had 3 cars with the K series engine, x2 1.8 and now with a 1.6 K series 216, it’s a powerful, free revving, willing engine. It doesn’t tolerate neglect as you said, hence head gasket failure in so many cars, but look after it and it will look after you.

I bought a 1990 414SI nearly new with 26k on the clock . It was a beautiful looking car in its day. I still remember my neighbour being really jealous when I brought it home. The body was really well built, better than the mechanics. The exhaust snapped off twice at the manifold in the first year. It tried to overheat on me but i caught it in time. Broken cooling fan switch. It was tiring to drive though with the clutch being so high and the accelerator pedal being way too heavy. A long drive left your feet aching. It felt underpowered unless you really screwed it. Despite its faults a classy ride and fond memories.

Nice tour of Talgarreg. Very nice car too, and would be an attractive new buy even today. The gearing is odd considering that my Honda CR-V does 85mph at 1800 revs in ninth gear. Trouble is that it never engages top gear until around 75mph so one has to travel 30 miles to Carmarthen to find the nearest dual carriageway, and another 10 before the M4. In two years of ownership, until last week, it never engaged top gear.

I had a 416 in British Racing Green, in the 90's and it was a cracking car, and clocked up over 150k in motorway miles and it was incredibly reliable

Current head gaskets for these engines are pretty much bullet proof. I bought an MG TF with a terrific warranty on the triple layer head gasket, water pump and cam belt. This 414 you are driving is a surprisingly nice car in a great colour with a lovely interior.

Great review... I had a 41-something, same shape, different trim/grille, with the Honda engine, and I loved it, even being an auto!

I bought a Rover 414i from 1996 with the 14K4F engine today. Damn. This car better than I thought. A sporty brittish elegant Honda Civic. So good car. :D

No! They're not that bad. And the rover 400 had the best door closing sound ever! My friends dad had the 414, albeit 2 head gaskets throughout his 17 year ownership, the second being a genuine rover gasket set. Problem solved. The K is definitely lower on the NVH scale. With a coney filter, it's a very nice sound. And I know the road you are on, that one is a great one to have a chuck around on. Except the road at the end.

Used to dream about getting one of these in the early 90's when i had the chevette's. I thought they seemed good quality. My favourite was the rover 220 GTI in bottle green though yum yum.

This reminds me of my Green Rover 418 Turbo Diesel, with Peugeot XUD7TE. Such a really well handling suspension and so quick off the mark when the traffic lights turned green. I miss it so.

I had a 214 SLi, 91 model, loved it to bits, did 120,000 mls in it never put a foot wrong, had it regularly serviced, due the yearly mileage I was doing had the oil changed every 6000mls. The engine revved like the clappers. The K series was a brilliant engine, but the ancillaries attached to it were suspect. Head gaskets not a problem, it was the seals on the thermostat housing and water pump that were the big problem, they would leak and people would not look at their temperature gauge or have the cars regularly serviced, next thing coolant loss. Never fit a MLG, unless it's the N series one because they're prone to failure. I've had over 16 K series engined cars and only had two head gasket failures and these cars I'd bought S/H, replaced with the later type Rover neoprene gasket with new head bolts plus the seals on the thermostat housing and water pump and never had a problem with the engines. The R8 was a very good series of cars, shame there are so few around today. The car driven here is beautifully looked after and does the owner proud.

Simon should be proud, he's got himself a right corker of a car there. Spotless inside and out. And the soundtrack is just heavenly (rarely do you hear a K-series engine being given the beans). Should my aspirations of acquiring a Volvo estate or a Rover 75 as a first car fall flat, I certainly wouldn't mind one of these in their stead (preferably in that gorgeous shade of red). Right now though, I'd be grateful to have anything as a first car to be honest lol Cracking vid as ever, Ian. :)

It looks new! Absolutely remarkable condition for 28 years old. Has it had a restoration? Great looking car that drives well - I'd have one.

I have a 2003 MG ZS with the 1.8 K-Series and it is a lovely engine, punchy and pokey when you need it to be but also happy to just tick over when cruising along at 60 or so. It too has the same issue with the pedal height as does the 45 and I believe there is an after market mod out there to lower the pedal down an inch or so. As others have said though and I see if often on forums, people are so quick to "diagnose" issues as head gasket failures when in fact it's usually down to thermostats or small leaks from hoses. Great engines in my eyes and so easy to work on with basic tools.

I have to say, from my personal point of view, the 400 was by far the most successful of the R8 versions, and something that was unique to Rover in this country, though I believe the Honda Concerto was available as a saloon, built at Longbridge, in other markets. The tourer and coupe (usually known as the Tomcat now, though that was officially only the parlance for the top of the line turbo cars that were raced in the one-make championship, and if you've never seen them then look them up on here as they were extremely exciting races) which were also Rover only, were very good looking too, but for me, from the original sharp nose versions, the 400 was the looker of the range. Nightfire red was very much the stand-out colour too, as no other manufacturer on the UK market had a colour even similar at the time, which was probably why a lot of the early press cars were painted that colour, and it really made them pop in the motoring magazines of the time...

Great review, Ian, I really enjoyed that. Back in '95 I bought a '93 414Si in dark blue with light grey interior. In the three years of ownership I took it from 21,000 miles at purchase, to 60,000 miles when I sold it & in that time the only issue I had (honestly!) was the bulb failing in the clock in the centre of the dash! The K series never gave me any trouble whatsoever. In 2000 I bought a M reg 214SEi in platinum with the superb 1/2 leather interior which was just as reliable. Lovely cars!

That engine bay is immaculate. Very impressed.

Absolutely love R8s! Daily drove one for nine months, WILL own one!