I have become a new Rowan Williams fan. 👍

Am so glad this has been recorded, I was very sad to have been unable to join you all for this remarkable man pouring out his profound wisdom for us. Wishing you all a very blessed and peaceful Christmas!

I experienced listening to this homily as an act of worship. So much holy wisdom, that I had to pause it... and come back to finish it. What a wonderful gift this Christmas. Bless you folks of Meditatio for bringing this to us. Merry Christmas to each of you.

So thankful for this. A Christian lifetime of lies and abuses by other denomination has caused enormous damage to relationship with God. Hoping to find a God of love again.

Merry Christmas and a very Blessed Happy New Year 2015 ... thanks for sharing with us this recording. I missed the date I registered for this... I met Dr. Rowan Williams at the courtyard of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, September 12, 2008 after VESPERS by then Pope Benedict XVI and I did not know how to get back to Eymard Pensione [ near Arch du Triomphe ] where I was staying as a tourist from California. It was then Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Rowan Williams who helped me and I will never forget that encounter and his kindness! Merci! Yolanda Aumentado, Santa Barbara, CA

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I am always so grateful to listen to Dr. Williams. He speaks from such a powerful place. The Mass of Christ is a celebration of Divine relationship. Christ is the person united with the Divine. Christ is the individual united with the Unseen Ones, who are the Angelic Forces of the Divine. This is the meaning of the Mass of Christ-Christmas. It is not the glorification of an individual. It is the recognition of real relationship-the relationship of the person with Knowledge within themselves, their relationship and intrinsic bond to the Unseen Ones, their duty to humanity and their affinity with life. This is the celebration of relationship. This is the meaning of Christhood. This is the Mass of Christ. The Meaning of Christmas Marshall Vian Summers

For eons, before Jesus, people lived and died ,without believing in Jesus,(because he hadn't arrived),and even after his time, because of primitive comunications, generations lived and died without hearing about him,what happened to them,and if they are worse off it doesn't seem fair, and if we are worse off if we find it impossible to believe,(what other humans have written) it doesn't seem fair.

Dr. Rowan Williams should meet one engineer to discuss the contributions of engineers to the transformation of God in various forms since the beginning of time. The most recent God is purely engineering energy that enters every home and still brings together distant communities, not through stone Cathedrals, but through Electronics. God still exists in every state through which he evolves and anyone is invited to stay and live within any God state that fits within the mentality of each human individual. From the past to the present there was the following sequential state of God. **Rowan Williams' and the Pope's (Poetic God) (God 0), was followed by Albert Einstein's (Energy God), ( God 1) which was also Baruch Spinoza's (Nature's God) and James Clerk Maxwell's ( electromagnetic God) then this was slowly followed by the (engineering God) where the Energy and matter in Albert Einstein's God ( God 1) was molded into tangible, guaranteed human comforts in and outside our homes. * Rowan William says that his Poetic God ( God 0) was not meant to be discussed with explanations. God (0) was something that comes to us as a gift, something extraordinary, a mysterious richness, always something beyond our imagination. God(0) even in poetic form, could bring a practical utilitarian set of ethics and morals that could assist all communities to live together in peace. ** Albert Einstein's Energy God ( God 1), presumably follows the unknown transformation of "the will of God (0)" in the form of Energy and matter related by the speed of light in the equation E= mc^2. Light is electromagnetic energy and so James Clerk Maxwell's Electromagnetic God is also God(1) which travels around the universal time/ space domains as:- Curl (Electric)=d(Magnetic)/dt. Baruch Spinosa's God or ( Nature's God) is also God (1) evolved in nature as Darwin suggested. Then there is the engineering God, who manifests himself in Energy and matter forms, available in all the tangible engineering guaranteed products that fill in and outside our homes, existing in any community, including the rockets and missiles, now reaching into outer space. The Energy/mass equation E=mc^2 which also contains "LIGHT" may also explain the statement," Let there be light" and not only the birth and death of Jesus but the other two remarkable transformations on which Christianity itself stands, and that is, the Conception of Jesus which is Energy to matter transformation, and the Resurrection of Jesus which is a matter to Energy transformation. Also, God as Energy, E= mc^2 would fit in with what Jesus said, "I am a son( mass) of God ( energy)", and also " We are all made in the image of God ( Energy/mass) " **Most religious people imagine God to prefer to visit Cathedrals, Churches, Mosques, and Temples but the Engineering God, though he was first very satisfied with the Cathedrals which he help to build, saw the COVID 19 epidemic coming, and set in motion the digital online communications that are no more than Einstein's God and Maxwell's God, God (1) working in the electromagnetic form, even assisting to aid the KZfaq organizer, accept and reject what contributors can offer. Einstein"s Energy God in the form of E= mc^2 is seen when the sun's electromagnetic energy falls on leaves, and plants, and changes into the matter to grow grass and plants and fruit and trees where animals and humans, as mass/ energy relation, can be sustained during their evolution on earth. Then when we die, our mass and matter resurrect into an energy form, E, as predicted by Einstein and Maxwell, to roam the universe in energy form or even be reincarnated to matter, serving a similar or different form. For those interested to link Albert Einstein's Energy God ( God 1) to Jesus, all one needs to do is to note that Jesus felt the energy around him and called this Energy that makes storms and Earthquakes and Erupts Volcanoes, " His father energy" and so he said, " I am a son of my father". Jesus did not say, " I am the (only) son of my father God) and so he proceeded to relate the energy to matter on earth, by saying, " We are all made in the image of God the Father". whereas Albert Einstein deduced that matter can be resurrected into Energy as Engineers resurrect, coal, oil, gas, and uranium into Mechanical Electrical and heat, and light energy. **When it comes to explaining Resurrection, we may mention how an "engineering resurrection" can take place during this time of pandemic and physical separation and how it impacts the individual and Church at any level. While we may consider how in the future, resurrection may reveal itself through liturgy and worship of the Poetic God (0) and the resurrection of Jesus as proceeding with the work of Jesus to be active after Jesus's death, we may depict the Energy God(1), first as a transformation of energy into the matter, including how the electromagnetic energy in this KZfaq signal can affect the receiver's eyes and ears if this is read to them using the electronic voice interpreting algorithms working with the programmed Kernels to create a human language. **One can end this discussion, which will probably not be accepted by the mediators of KZfaq, that while the Poetic God(0) remained as a poetic inspirational God, residing outside this universe, as Rowan Williams suggests, not many tangible guaranteed human comforts existed on earth, and it is only when Einstein's energy God ( God 1) and James Maxwell's God again ( God 1) started being handled by engineers to resurrect solutions to problems, which religious people still regard as miracles, as the internet and KZfaq appear to others, and when engineers, with their practice philosophies and aids, are still rejected in discussing these issues in religious circles, when, clearly it is the Engineering God that people now prefer and are allowing in and outside their homes. This separation in the Covid 19 era, it is through the Engineering God that we can make contact and even see and hear each other and even the sacraments and rituals can proceed to be celebrated. **As far as the future church communicating online and bridging the distances, it has nothing to worry about, as, Bread and wine, and oils and flesh and blood are still related to each other, and they can transform and resurrect into one another through the Einstein's Energy God God (1) described as E= mc^2 and of course where James Mawell predicted that the energy Electromagnetic God can travel as Curl(E)= d(B)/dt. **If religious presenters learn to speak the engineering and mathematical language, they will understand the energy of God (God 1) and his resurrections and transformations much better. Meanwhile, we all need to learn to apply a reverse algorithm and try to link the Energy God( 1) to the Poetic God, God(0) to really get the full picture. In getting to fully know the Energy God(1), humans will still have enough satisfaction from living with him wherever they are. Trying to also know the Poetic, Artistic, God ( God 0) is however a good human investment, as the human mind cannot be filled with only Energy and Matter and real information, and a little inspirational fiction can keep us going. Considering the sufferings of people in the past, one wonders if we could see the need for the origins of religions as someone needed to write a particular verbal sonata/cantata/poem to help those who needed mental relaxation. A Sonata is a vague term, with varying meanings depending on the context and time period it was written. It represents the principle of composing large-scale musical works no different than deriving a good Poetic and artistic God. It was applied to the fundamental methods of organizing, interpreting, and analyzing situations and depicting the appropriate music for them. Like the musical styles of sonatas, the styles of most religions have changed since the early era, even to please an English King, but in general, sonatas and religions still try to maintain the same public mental needs. Continued in reply.

Hi Brethren, In Jesus, we have One Fold, Church of God headed by One Shepherd, Christ Jesus. But this man belongs to Church of England headed by Queen, the head of Mammon in the defence of this Faith in Mammon soldiers who died during fighting for secular kingdom of Queen were said to have glorified God. Such a person, who heads this Church of Satan cannot know loving God as displayed by Brother William Both who declared the soldiers died for King and country. They hated him as the Temple Priests hated Jesus. More in my Videos.

As B C Butler said human language is hardly competent to deal with absolute mystery.Stopped listening when this man ordained gay people then changed his mind and then changed it again .He sounds so much like Christopher Lee in Lord of the rings who was the wizard of darkness .

I've never heard so much pseudo-spiritual mumbo jumbo. What a deeply disturbed man.