Great idea for a video but it would have made a lot more sense to have used a men's 1x than a women's 2x - mainly for weight differences between boats/athletes

Assuming that you place two equally good athletes each in their specialty, the kayak will always be faster at the start and in a short race, but in a race of 500 meters or more the rower will always be the winner. Neither is better than the other, they are simply different sports.

Why wasn't there a single men rower against the kayaker ? The video was cool, don't stop making videos ! =)

so, I think all rowers will agree that the kayaker came in next to last.

That is like the most rad boat storage place I have ever seen! I think what is so special about rowing is the teamwork and the effort to get multiple individuals to be in sync. Watching the German world record footage for 8x is just amazing.

I would like to see a straight up single against a single and keep it man vs man and woman vs woman

As a former rower who has transitioned into kayaking (which I personally prefer), I can say that the rowers should always win pretty much most distances (With the exception of maybe a 100m or 200m sprint where a kayaker's higher rating is favoured). Simple physics provides rowers with far more leverage than a kayaker (A couple of meters more), and rowing also engages a far larger range of muscle groups making it significantly more powerful. This video is really cool, but if athletes of similar fitness levels from each sport were used the rowers would consistently win. (Or you could just look at record times :D).

Rowing is love, rowing is life ❤

That's a result I didn't expect! This prompted me to look at the record times for rowing, kayaking, and canoeing events. The standard length for a rowing event is 2000m. The closest length to that for kayaking and canoeing events is 1000m. In the following list, I doubled the times for the 1000m kayaking and canoeing events just for purposes of comparison. I wouldn't expect the same pace to be maintained for twice the distance. I could not find a record time for a woman's 1000m canoeing event. Men M1x 2000m Single Scull - Mahe Drysdale - 6m 33.35s Men K1 1000m Kayak - Max Hoff - 3m 22.485s x 2 = 6m 44.970s Men C1 1000m Canoe - Sebastian Brendel - 3m 44.578s x 2 = 7m 29.156s Women W1x 2000m Single Scull - Rumyana Neykova - 7m 7.71s Women K1 1000m Kayak - Teneale Hatton - 3m 48.560s x 2 = 7m 37.120s The kayaks are definitely faster than the canoes, and the sculls are definitely faster than the kayaks, but I didn't expect the time margins to be so narrow between the kayaks and the sculls given that the rowers are able to use the strength of their legs. Another interesting thing is that the kayaker in the video jumped to an immediate lead but didn't increase it by much for the remainder of the race. Perhaps the smaller mass of the kayak allows for a significant acceleration advantage.

1:51 over 500 meters is embarassing for a rower.

The World Record for the K1 500m is 1:35. The World Best Time for the M1x is 6:30 for 2000m. Robbie Manson did 1:38.3 for the first 500m when he set this record and his average split was about 1:37.5. While rowers don't train specifically for 500m races, a world class 1x sculler needs to be able to do better than 1:35 for 500m. And the rate for a max 500 m piece should be in the 40-46spm range.

Worlds fastest kayaker (K1) 1000m: Max Hoff, 3:22 Worlds fastest rower (M1x) 2000m: Robert Manson, 6:31 (thats 3:15 for 1000m) So even though Robert Manson was aiming for 2km he still beat the best kayaker of the world. In a race over 1km he would be even faster than 3:15.

Everyone should know the intention of all these videos are to insult the sport of rowing (despite the purposely misleading title).

Would be cool to see world class men's k1 vs a world's male rower. 1:49 is pretty slow for men's k1

Always looking forward to these

Hello, a question to (probably slightly older?) rowers/coaches. I was able to buy a 40+ year-old wooden/varnished fine-shell single-scull (assembled weight 22kg) with original wooden macon blades (2.7kg each) very cheaply to save it from scrap. After tidying, I have been able to do some long-distance outings in it (for example 28km including self-carry over 2 locks in 3h10m). I wondered if anyone has any factual evidence as to how much slower than a brand-new carbon scull with the latest blades it might be if I wanted to do some half-serious competition in it - or should I hire a new boat?

Is the video made in Ottensheim ?

all i'm gonna say is that that standing shove for the double was cool

Gut gefilmt und einfach mal witzig dieses kleine Rennen "just for fun". Gruß Tino

Why would the rowers rating be so low? 34 is my doubles 1500m rating.

Dude a 1:49 is slow. Put a men's single up against that kayaker and he wouldn't stand a chance.

There also seem to be a headwind which seems to be lifting thr doubles' oars up in the air affecting them more

Does anyone notice how it’s only 500m? That means the start at the beginning makes a huge difference? The shorter the distance the more the kayaker will win by, they have a much faster start than most rowers but over even a 1k I think the rowers will have a much better chance

I really enjoy small boats. Designing, building, being on the water, it's all great to me. That said, the comments on this video make a lot of you sound like overbearing, over-competitive people. The sort of folks that won't be able to leave a comment like this alone...

Why is there so much hate towards kayakers in this comment section. Can't we just get along and enjoy our sports?

So cool!!! 👏 I love the scenes

What length is a single rowing Schull? The k1 kayaks are 5.2meters. Unless you match the craft length the test cannot be a direct comparison. These are displacement hulls so it matters.

its great!

Gratuliere! .... da wird sogar das Wahlergebnis in Frankreich zur Nebensache,...

That was Cool....

Men vs woman?? Not being sexist but there is a clear strength difference and weight difference. Men's single would have been better, but still a good video concept

I’m quite a good level kayaker but I’ve just started rowing training and tbh rowing is so fkn fun

I love rowing is the best water sport

I love rowing singles

I rowed a 1.5k a hell of a lot faster than this kayaker today. The rowers in the video are just bad…

Chill out. This is like Gibson vs Fender, Canon vs Nikon, Steak vs Lobster, Ginger vs Mary Ann... Just follow your own path and your own passion and smile at the A-B comparisons many people make to pass the time.

A diferença maior está na passada. No Remo, por mais que você tem mais força no “stroak” pois usa tronco e perna, o ritmo é mais lento das pás entrando e saindo. No Caiaque você tem muito mais stroaks por minuto. Porém, se você aumentar a corrida pra 2.000 metros, muda tudo… pois um Remador consegue manter por mais tempo força. E o no caiaque a pessoa não consegue ter o mesmo ritmo e força por 2.000 metros. São esportes bem diferentes… é a mesma coisa que comparar snowboard e esqui em um slalom, em uma prova de salto, de velocidade, etx.

I was surprised. I expected the rowing scull to be faster. Then I read the other comments. Sounds like they pitted an athletic kayaker against a couple of recreational rowers. FWIW I paddle in an OC6 or an OC12. The purpose is to have fun, not to go fast. We go slow and I have a blast.

Girls are beautiful!!!

rower is faster then kayaker

LOL I'm starting to not like these. The rowers lost here and the rower lost to the crossfitter last time! Still super epic though.

The fact is that a kayak will most likely go faster than are shell due to the fact that kayaking is a continuous flow of forward momentum as to rowing being a stopping starting type of motion. This will be 9/10 the deciding factor in this kind of race.

For those of you listening to specialists with their BS, this video proves one thing for sure: May not matters much about techniques or how clean blades hit the water, or your shoulder position , etc. All BS, power and stroke rate is what matters. Kayak will win every time because the high stroke rate with similar power output.

Wow.. wouldn't expect the kayaker can win... The girls must be rowing pretty relaxed or had a tough night :)

Oh brother! Another one. We get the message, you don't think highly of rowers though they're probably the fittest athletes on earth. Keep cherry picking has-been rowers for your videos. Sorry you didn't make the college rowing team.

A rower is suppossed to displace more water. How did they lose?

Look at what time the olympic single sculls come through: 1'40s. They still have 1500m more to go. Even in veterans on 1000m at 40 years with 68 kg I was as fast.

"Lets have a fair race with a K1 trying to out sprint a K2", said no one ever. Put a K2 kayak, with Hank Mcgregor and Andy Birkett together, and the 2 best rowers, the kayak will come out victorious.

That kayaker's paddling form was great, and the speed of the stokes was amazing. He definitely deserved to win. Although the two women were pretty amazing too.

I got the impression that the maker of the video is a rower, because the single kayaker was up against a 2 person rower. And at the end, he ranked rower as 2nd, not last, which is a little... It's cool, but I'm a racing kayaker myself, so this immediately seemed a little off!

Very simple: unexpected result because it's men vs women. One man beat two women who had all the advantages (except manhood)

Why girls?

Great Video concept! Kayaks definitely move fast. But not quite a truly Versus video. It's comparing apples to oranges. Let's have a Men's 1x Single scull vs a Kayaker over 500m distance and a separate race over 2k distance. And let's have the athletes be similar in experience and weight class. Men vs Women is not a good comparison for these types of sports.

If only you could surf a rowboat like a surf kayak :)

they we're rating 34 for the entire race, thats a training row honestly

There are so many unsaid variables in this race. Men vs. women, K1 vs 2 person sculling shell, level of fitness and competition level...? So IF this video is trying to state implicitly that kayakers are faster than rowing shells etc. I am afraid they fall short. Cool idea though.

Yeah, but who would win a fist fight ...a womble or a telly tubby.

Interesting video, but kayaks and this type of row boat are made for totally different purposes. If you raced these two boats against each other in rapids, the results would be totally different.

Cant ignore the fact that its male vs female mens doubles wouldve won that race

women’s 2x pulling a 1:50 split i don’t think they’re the best

rowboats are way more efficient then kayaking, duh. you cant compare different sports by speed or a novice kayaker could beak micheal phelps. whatever sport you do doesnt make you better. its how hard you push

Hi friend, the time lap 1:50 for 500 mt is a very good time by k1. But not for the double! This boat it very speed, So I think that the two athletes... Weren't in good phisical condition.

1:51 for a double is very slow. Those girls were having a light paddle...

Why not a single rower ?

Oii eu tambem fasso canoagem e é muito legal

Can try rowing boy 1x ..🙄🙄🙄

considering its 2 v 1 and he's having to work twice as hard, that kayaking speed is impressive. man power!

a double men sculls can easily pull below 1:30

Enticing title, and impressive athletes (even if they're amusingly mismatched)! But not really a very interesting video. How about several better-matched teams over several courses? Then there are the more interesting questions. For example, move beyond just straightline speed over a short course in a flat calm. How about some followups including 20-km open-water courses, wind, waves, etc? Compare the two for bringing some passengers or cargo quickly from a rocky beach out to a sailboat? I think it's a bit sad that many people have forgotten that once rowing and kayaking were both much more than just tame and useless sports done in carefully-controlled conditions, where at the mere whiff of real-world conditions or actual utility we weakly roll over and surrender to motorboats.

I have been rowing for six years and I cannot believe that rowing is inferior to passion. I alone go as much as 1:40 !!! So passion is very slow

Is it just me or does it seem those girls are rushing the slide?

Las canoas mandan

what with only 35 SPM for 500m? Especially in a double and such a short race they should at least be at 40

From what little I know (real little) about displacement craft and waterline length the 2 place boat with the women rowers should have smoked the 1 person kayak, as excellent as he was.

the men is not so fast 😅 1:49?

bitte mehr rower vs... videos die sind extrem cool😃

The only reason that the girls didn’t win is bc they checked the boat on almost every stroke otherwise they would’ve dusted the kayak

If it was a heavy weight men’s boat then the kayak wouldn’t even be able to see them

Those girls' rate was WAY too low. I'm a novice rower and my 500m is way better than a 1:50 and these seem to be rowers much more experienced than me.

If you are and can't beat a kayaker just bad >>>> rowing uses the biggest muscles in the body>>> any male rower should be under 7 min 2k >>> the elite should be under 6:20 for 2k except they stroke too slow >>>rowers are in an ideal strength position like a squat or dead lift >>>> but have exit from the water >>> plus sitting on your ass in both makes it easier >>> YES C-1 RULES

They were going at a 1:51 split for 500 metres - really?!

2000 is way more usual for rowing and than the rower clearly wins seeing that the kayak slows down during the race

Why is it never 1 vs 1

from what i remember, single male sculler = women's four, which is slightly slower than a quad, which is faster than a double by a bigger margin. a battle of the sexes handicap at any rate. kayak most efficient boat, but a little slower than a scull in even competition.

There is no way a kayaker would be as fast as an equally strong rower, not even on a 100m dash.

Only time I've ever seen two girls lose to one guy.

Haha something you messed up a kayaker can not beat an acadammy boat camels to be a pair of cheekbones and to such a distance

I am kayaking student

Мля я на байдарке в 16 за 1:50 прошёл)такчт академисты молчите мужик тоже не айс был

i prefer kayak is a winner what speed it is

Найс подлет в корму.

Shouldn’t you change the title to one man beats two women ?

It so fun....1 kaykar vs 2 gilrs skull...Why not run 1 man skull vs Kaykar or 2 man razpashno Rower vs 2 Kaykars.500m is a kaykayrs discipline....

Die ruderer waren aber such bet wirklich schnell

Dude ... a male rower would be way faster

To be fair rowers are so fast we have to handicap ourselves by banning sliding riggers and the like.

Would have liked to see men rowing for a fair comparison.

Put two alphas instead of betas in the row boat and show the results.

This is the second “rowing vs kayaking” video I’ve watched so far (gawd knows why!), and, although admittedly based only on those two, it’s hard to see why anyone who wanted to pick up one of the two sports would choose rowing! I mean: a) fast, highly maneuverable, not-to-mention ripped, snowboarding-cool, water-skimming machine OR b) kinda sedate, only-in-a-straight-line (and _backwards_ for gawd’s sake!), no-doubt fit but fit like Hodor from Game of Thrones, with a maiden-aunts-out-for-some-gentile-Sunday-skiing vibe, floaty boat Why would anyone pick b) !? Clearly I’m missing something because ... well, rowers. And they don’t just do it, they appear to _love_ it. So, what is it? Early morning after early morning, come rain or shine, with what by all reports are mind-crushing levels of physical discomfort; why? P.S. And the title, about rowing being passion, is a bit click-baity, no? I thought it was going to be all about how rowing might look less cool, but in practice is where the awesome performance lives. In other words, “Yay, rowing!” And of course, that’s not how it actually comes across. Or is the point being made that the only thing keeping rowers going, in the face of it appearing to be (in the video’s terms) a suckier sport than kayaking, is that particular form of bloody-minded insanity typically referred to as “passion”?

the rowin boat is not tippy at all :(