He was the absolute worst! So, the fact she never bad-mouthed him is simply remarkable, but also she didn't want to lose her head, I suppose.

Shes beautiful

simp

on a contrary

@@cowdaddy4595 "when his wives behaved" 🤮 sounds like some shit tate would say, And also he was cheating on his wives all the time that's why some of them did the same to him

That's usually the case of the ones that do

He was in a position of power and in those days nobel women were not allowed to pick their husbands.

He was actually very good looking & athletic until he became immobile and unable to exercise. plus the severe depression from every son he had dying of young age or stillbirth. not to mention, we dont know how Anne looked like. Despite him finding her unattractive, Henry took care of her for the remainder of her life and treated her like a younger sister. I am sure he made the painters not make her look ugly, you have to be pretty ignorant to think she looked like her portrait.

He was known for his good looks when he was young. He was also in a position that allowed him to choose.

women are attracted to money and power, men are attracted to physical appearance. being king made him the hottest guy in the country.

She tried to remarry him after Katherine Howard was beheaded, but Henry said no. She had a life of luxury without any close relationships because she still belonged to the king. It's kind of sad.

You do know wealthy women of her day actually had a plenty of freedom and agency, quite far more than any common people.

God knows her purpose very well. Her family raised her just to be a marriage doll but I think she is more than that, she is pretty trustworthy of some of properties of King Henry as well and can manage to be intelligent enough to owe those big properties such as palace and mansions :)

She was NOT oppressed for crying out loud. Women of her power could have people killed if they wanted. She had servants galore. It would be rare to even interact with her husband if she didn't want to. Try thinking of the peasantry who had no freedom or agency no matter which of the two genders they happened to be.... hmmmm?

Most women still have that view now. Just looking for the right man

and Holbein's portrait is astonishingly beautiful - he captures her tiny waist and the detail on her headcovering is out of this world. As an art historian who works on this period I can say that it is absolutely top-of-the-line work. This video undersells Holbein as an artist to a degree.

​@LondonLite02 100% agreed. Holbein is one of my absolute faves. As an art and dress historian, the detail he applies to dress is second to none. So much so that people have been able to accurately recreate the blackwork pattern on Jane Seymour's cuff ruffles. It's insane!

⁠@@LondonLite02thank you! Holbein is legendary for a reason. None of these Tudor “stans” or accounts that do facial recreations would have a single thing to work off of, if we didn’t have Holbein’s portraits. His attention to detail, color and depth is unmatched. I think people need to understand that what little we know of Henry’s spouses and their fashion relies mostly on hans Holbein’s portraits. We even only have a 3D view of certain hoods and headdresses only bc of his sketches

She weren’t ugly she’s pretty actually

She looked like a solid 6/10

Same! I think there’s a reason she never remarried :)

Still is!

@@milivanili2603 True 😂

Exactly!

@@RoyaltyNowStudios She was smart 🤗

Oh yes it's always nice when you're servants think that you're kind LOL what are human beings even doing with servants is the real f****** question

After their divorce, chroniclers record that Henry occasionally liked to visit Anne and play cards with her. He enjoyed her company and conversation.

Very nice

@@kristincusick1342 i'm pretty sure cleves bowed down to howard the day she was crowned

and she gave birth to the future Queen Elizabeth I ... my impression of Anne was that she was a GOoD WOmaN and everyone loved her so naturally, Henry didn't have her be-headed as she was GOoD to HIM too! She was jealous of his affairs and in fact, didn't she and his 5th wife get along splendidly? She sounds like she was the 'unheard of' perfect ex-wife. lol More 'power' to her, I would have curse that fig pig King and told the entire Kingdom what a big fat dolt he had become from lust of all the forbidden fruit for HIM to eat as if he were JC HIMself! A God in the flesh and blood of the KING of KINGS$

She Thrived.

catherine parr survived, anne LIVED

​@@FranziskaVonProdigySlaysagreed

@Esphaeras Praestans I thought so too!

She honestly looks like someone I know today and she looks pretty/normal

Well, actually the portrait was fixed by the painter... when Henry asked for a portrait of Anne, the painter did some "photoshop" (if we can call it that way) because anne had had smallpox before, so her face was stained and had scars; the painter made some fixes to make anne look more attractive. Henry was quite disappointed when he met anne and realized she didn't look like the woman from the painting

Maybe not. Execution for treason might have been more complicated for such a foreigner with political ramifications. Maybe it was the political aspect that limited the psychopathic narcissist Henry's options so he didn't want that

Random thought but when I usually think of “Holbein” I think of the Korean art brand

I feel like Catherine of Aragon could have had this outcome as well

Katherine of Aragon was way too proud/arrogant, she could have had a great settlement. Henry needed a male prince as aire to the kingdom.

She became an honorary Tudor as a result of playing her cards well. Both knew it wasn't going to work out.

@Legion ... I'm confused as to why you said this, as if it undoes the murders and every other messed up thing he did. 😂

@@wellwellwellhowinteresting technically the King cannot murder anyone. Before you come down on Henry too hard remember to take into account things were a lot different in the 1500s. The Pope had a lot of blood on this hands. Charles V even more and we won't even discuss the French. Henry wasn't a Saint, but he was an effective king. The middle-class started to bloom under Henry (thanks to Cromwell). Henry had a temper to be sure, in part his health issue are not known to help with that.

She did an amazing job navigating the situation, that’s for sure!

She knew what she was dealing with and used it to her advantage. She would have been faced with an ageing obese, opinionated narcissist who couldn't see what he was becoming. Remind you of anybody?

She may have had her feelings hurt a bit by the “Flanders Mare” comment but I think understood her situation, was compensated very well, and got along very well as Henry’s “sister.”

@@dominaevillae28 No doubt. Out of all of Henry's wives, Anne of Cleves did the best. She only had to tolerate him for 6 months and then got to live the life she wanted. She got around a lot of hassles by having been as amenable as she was to Henry when it came to the divorce. That she went quietly, gracefully with out slamming Henry is an accomplishment in itself. She was a very shrewd court player and she played the game extremely well.

She out lived most if not All of her potential killers (I regret until lately I have been ignorant of her life just following the propaganda put out)I would have loved to be in her inner circle at her court

Totally agree! The classic “I didn’t want you anyway”

I find her to be very beautiful in the paintings and recreations, but if King Henry did not find her attractive he was probably just using this as an excuse. If he did think she was attractive I doubt it would have mattered.

@@faulltw and hello look at him he is no oil painting even in oil paintings

@@sueb6662 🤣😅...

She had a good life after the annulment. Clever lady.

I heard that too. I believe from the KZfaq channel Reading the Past…

Lol he must be the one so ugly 😂

I found the way in which the series The Tudors dealt with Ann was interesting.

And his ulcer leg stinked Yuck and a little Wacker 😷

@@michaelstusiak5902 yeah me too. they probably didn’t go this route most likely bc they had Johnathan Rhys Meyers playing Henry who he looked nothing like during this point in Henry’s life. Maybe didn’t think it would be as beliable to audience? idk tho.

🤣🥹🤣

🤣She was probably appalled, considering how she was raised.

He wasn't much of a looker either haha

Didn't he literally have a leaking gang green smelling leg? Yeah.......

I Learned*

Amen!! Tell it!!

A M E N

A M E N

more as Merkel i tought, but red hair....

I can absolutely appreciate that! Also if you want to know the answer to who the ugliest King was it was Charles II of Spain bar none.

@@RoyaltyNowStudios I looked up Charles II, the poor guy exhibited some very bad genetics.

Very much so :(

We all already know who "the ugliest king" is though without the aid of such a title.

The inbreeding is really in Charles the 2

Henry is the original r/niceguy! He was self conscious and so said she was the ugly one. And I completely agree him divorcing her was the best thing to ever happen to her! Her whole life she was under the thumb of her parents and then her crazy husband but she became independently wealthy and was able to be free! Extremely rare for any woman in that time period and decide how to live her life herself! I think it's telling she never married although she could have! I'm sure her fortune and favor with the King on top of her looks was very attractive to many men.

I'm so glad you said that!! I have read several different books that talked about her as a common sense, quiet and caring person, who was the only wife of Henry's that came out BETTER OFF after she married him. She was smart enough to instantly agree to EVERYTHING laid out before her and publicly declare that she was forever grateful to the "great king" for giving her such attention and kindness. She did end up being a true friend to the end, never once complaining, always grateful, and helpful when asked, which thrilled Henry enough that he rained favors down on her, and she, as you said, seemed to be always warm and comforting as a friend, a novelty for the king, who was used to fawning, flattering courtiers wanting more and more...

Her brother sounded like such a jerk. Being free of him, Henry too, turned out well for her. Good!

She was one quiet little smart cookie!

@@christineparis5607 She had nothing to complain about although he found her unattractive besides that he gave her everything

True

She was probably actually a man. Just saying. Henry probably figured that out later.

@@NuckinFuts2215 Dude what are you on?

I think he didn't like that she didn't fall head over hills and swoon for him when he kissed her

@@clairefordzetterstrom9973 I’m not on anything, unlike Henry. Lol! I don’t even take ibuprofen or Tylenol. So there’s that.

Beautiful comment 🌷

*Anna of Cleves

@I am sovereign You'd probably like Queen Adelaide too. She was kind to her husband's "illegitimate" children.

You should be an author. Your literary skills are to be commended!

Winter: I wonder, why you use quote marks around the word illegitimate for children? Do you mean to say they were not illegitimate in some way? If the father is not married to the mother, if the father has a previous wife still living, the children are by definition illegitimately conceived. Please tell me more.

this line reminds me to Leonardo De Carpio for some reason

@@lizzie.136 heard his new gf is 19 🐥

Well, Anne wasn't well-educated or worldly. But I find it hilarious that Old King Hank here was a gross, middle-aged fatty with a big, festering, reeking ulcer on his leg... but had the gall to call a 24-year-old lady with some pockmarks and a big nose ugly.

The last thing I’d expect is a girl that looks like uh… you, to like a line about insulting someone’s appearance.

@PKMNTrainer Christy bruh the person probably came with a bad intent but seriously, if you're fat then don't call out fat lifestyles. Unless it's health issues ofc. That's hypocritical. The intent wasn't the best but isn't it obvious why they said so

Handsdown

Holbein would have 'adapted' his interpretation to the ideal of beauty of the day.

It's not her true appearance though.

@@AnneBoleynRome Exactly. Her true appearance included a lot of pox/scarring and other skin flaws. Back then, it was customary for a medieval photoshop to be done by not including flaws in portrait paintings. It was so drastic that Henry IIX was quite distressed when he saw her in real life, but he also took great pity on her for this reason.

@@unicornglitterfart5201 only if the person they were painting was paying for it. In this case it was not worth Holbien losing his head to fool Henry. Henry was offended and had a tempertantrum calling her ugly when she wasn't suitably impressed by him. He only looked favorably on her when she was compliant, because again he was a spoiled brat

Yep, she knew when to not make a fuss and when not too demand too much. Although arguably Katherine Parr also knew how to deal with him.

So, not gorgeous but far from ugly, smart too. Thank you.

She is not ugly at all. I think he needed some new glasses. He married an intelligent woman And didn't know how to deal with it; his loss her gain.

And Yet Parr was the one that survived, Cleves outlived Henry and even kept in contact, she was also one of his only wives that wasn't enprisoned

She was pretty..I'm sure Henry figured that he needed and deserved Better.. Kings have big egos because of the people they surround themselves with. He needed a friend who he wouldn't execute to tell him The Truth. Hey, Henry..if you don't want to marry or bed down with Anne, there's plenty of deserving men who would. I do love intelligent women especially if they beautiful.

Yea, she lived as "perfect protestant"....

@@martinplojhar There is no such thing!!

@@puttytat007 OK , small correction: "Perfect Protestant Bride"...

You are so correct. I personally think she was beautiful, but she was also really smart and a survivor.I would rather be smart any day of the week.

“Smarter enough not to seek power, fame, or influence“. If Anne Boleyn had practiced that, she might’ve stepped over the bodies of her enemies and survived.

Indeed, she got to be the fortunate one!

I wonder how she would have fared with Queen Anne as a Lady in Waiting or The Favourite. She could have been good friends with Queen Victoria.

She is a natural beauty

Real stretch on the ‘luckiest woman in history’ 🥴

@@Emanuela9 Who? Cleeves was 400 years before Queen Vic.

Agreed. I think Henry is the worst example of Kings. Why his behaviour became acceptable implies the thought processes of people during this period.

It wasn't the killing that shocked them, it was the fact that it was being done as a conienent form of divorce.

@mundy No it was not. Lutherism allready had a hold in Northern Europe at the time. In fact the pope had given Henry a special title due to his opposition of Luther.

True. The French ambassador reportedly said "What sort of man is the king? How many wives will he have?" on hearing of his marriage to Katherine Howard, which indicates that Henry was raising eyebrows even then. And Christina of Milan's sick burn "If I had two heads, I should consent to wed his gracious majesty; but alas, having but one, I dare not" was EPIC 🤣

@@kristincusick1342 That is because they knew the annullments were contrived, something literally no one else could get away with.

She wasn't into him based on the accounts. He reversed this as him not being into her and just like that he wanted out. This explains why nothing happened to Hans Holbein. If Holbein had really exaggerated her looks, Henry would have had his head for sure. The fact that he didn't execute Holbein tells me the portrait was accurate and Henry's ego got wounded by her reaction to him....

Exactly, he threw a man-baby tantrum because "she didn't immediately recognize him as her true love." Spare me, this is the only thing he's remembered for, his kingdom revolved around the stirs in his cod piece and his fragile ego. On paper, she is his ideal woman, gentle, virtuous, gracious, kind, amiable and intelligent but "stayed in her lane." She deserved better than to be considered the "ugly one" considering she was basically bartered off to petulant man-child whose tantrums and pride almost completely tore his country apart and caused so much ruin.

​@ChadiusMaximus196 that's a very good point.

I agree. From the sounds of it, she was polite, didn’t freak out but also didn’t encourage further actions from him.

Also, Henry was upset that she didn't fawn over his looks (making him feel ugly) so he says SHE'S the ugly one 🙄

I think that's going a wee bit too far. She definitely wasn't a looker. Likely Jewish 😆

I think you're right that it may have saved her life, as never remarrying meant that she escaped childbirth, which killed one in four women at the time. Probably the reason why she was the longest lived of the six, dying of the then ripe old age of 42

@@yeetnama9094 What? How does being Jewish affect anything and she wasn’t Jewish because she wouldn’t be a marriage option then

@@yeetnama9094 oh vey!

@@yeetnama9094 Erm...what??? That's a very weird and unkind thing to say.

yep, men walking around looking ugly as f*** and women are the one who get ridiculed

Not thought much about history?

In the past it was. But now both men and women are under pressure to look beautiful

Some things never change....

@@sarithajagajith6568 Women are actually under more pressure than ever to be beautiful. Don’t be fooled by the body positivity movement, the beauty standard is narrower than ever with beauty oversaturation, filters, instagram and photoshopped bodies. When you see only attractive people on your phone everyday, normal people become ugly due to your warped perception. Now ladies are expected to have big eyes, a symmetrical and slim face, a small chin, a tiny nose, and big lips regardless of race. In addition to big boobs, hips and butt with no hip dips and flawless skin along with narrow shoulders and a microscopic waist. The beauty standard was always meant to be unattainable, however thanks to modern day fakery, we’re now convinced that it is closer than ever.

Everyone who's not on the 'right' side is treated unfairly by history. Imagine a politician who doesn't serve the West poisoning an entire country with agent orange, like JFK did in Vietnam. How would they be considered today if they were on the zionist-inspired 'axis of evil'?

I didn't know much about her❤

A remarkable woman at the way she behaved. Wise. Not so sure, how she could have done it. But on the other hand, she must have been detached and wasn't affected by Henry’s remarks as devastating they were. He was a widower too. She must have known. Nonetheless, After Catherin of Aragon. I think many women would have being on red alert about him. I think Ann learnt what not to do from Catherine of Aragon., or even Anne Boleyn too. Maybe, what was ugly to Henry vIII. Was the blessing in this failed marriage ❤

Thanks ❤️

Are you a relative ?

Agree

I subconsciously burst out laughter when you said she kept her head literally 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah she definitely dodged a bullet.

"Saved by the bell", as some would say

Feminism should take more cues from Anne of Cleves, as opposed to the largely toxic movement that the fourth wave is.

Yep.

Precisely, and he never got reality checked because of his spoilt and privileged position as it is with so many even now.

@@rustyhowe3907 He would be total incel material nowadays. Everything is all women's fault to him, and they're disposable baby making machines. Typical. 🙄

Luckily, not a fatal wound to Anne!

Very interesting.

Must have had diabetes ..

@@rebaeasler certainly possible, given his extreme obesity, his diet and unhealed wounds.

A typical narc ploy... someone else is repulsed by them, they see that, it wounds their extremely fragile ego, they have to be the first to react aggressively. I didn’t want you anyway, you’re ugly. Classic projection.

She's always been my favorite of all his wives.

She outlived Henry, as I recall.

Have you read the book: The Six Wives of Henry VIII by Alison Weir? She is the best biographer of the Tudors I have ever read. Her research is amazing and this video could have come from this book.

@@dawnlockaby7737 Ah I haven't read it, but thanks so much for the recommendation!!! I'm adding this to my tbr list. Thanks so much 🙏🏻

Exactly! She might be my favorite too, she didn’t do anything to hurt the king even when he was unfair to her. Just all grace and calmness and patience.

She was ugly compared to his other options. A man with the power and wealth as a literal king can pick from the top 0.0001% of women. Anne may not have been ugly in the conventional sense, but she is definitely not up to Henry's caliber.

​@@TeemoTemosson It's not like the king was good looking himself when I see his portrait

​@@FLiPModeAriaO5 A man back then was tested on his valor and character than his looks.

@@kennymichaelalanya7134doesn’t change what she said lol

​@@FLiPModeAriaO5 He was apparently handsome and well fit until his jousting accident. He couldn't be active like he used too and didn't change his eating habits which made him fat.

her being too "ugly" did play out to her benefit for sure. she not only kept her head but made out like a bandit. 🙏😊

Probably a smart lesbian who knew how to work it

So did #6, and she had to deal with him much more closely.

I think she was quite a lovely lady

@@swish3432 No.

I think Anne Boleyn was also extremley intelligent, but she unfortunately couldn't escape like Anne of Cleeves

Maybe he was describing himself, when he said “there’s something old and fat and smelly and not a virgin in here”.

She was described as quite thin, so I doubt that was a fair assessment by him.

I agree. She's not ugly lol. He just said it since she bruised his ego. While Anne Boleyn is extremely intelligent as well, (I wasn't able to read enough so correct me if I'm wrong) she's indeed beautiful, bold and savage but I think she's blindsided by the fact that losing her head is possible since she was once adored by the king while on the other hand, Anne of Cleves already knew the options that if her marriage will fail, it's either she will get a divorce or lose her head and by these possibilities she already have a plan. She's armed and prepared this woman played him like a damn chess piece lol and the fact that she's foreign and still learning the language, think they underestimated her intelligence to pick up things but this lady is sharp. as gentle as a dove but as wise as a serpent. I mean come on! She's foreign to the country and do you think she just stepped to the land that she's unfamiliar with unprepared? I don't think so. 😂

@@stuffwithsoph8264 Yeah, I personally respect and relate to all of Boleyn's decisions, and Don't Lose Ur Head is catchy lol

She was also a very important influence on Elizabeth, who became the greatest monarch of England between Henry V and Victoria.

@@alexism5404 ?? She had one 1/2 sister Mary, and one 1/2 brother Edward. She killed neither of them. If you are referring to Mary Stuart, Mary plotted to have Elizabeth killed and steal her throne(Mary had been deposed is Scotland). This was when Elizabeth was shielding Mary from her enemies in Scotland. Elizabeth was actually quite pretty in her youth.

@@GG-yr5ix Indeed. In a world ruled and run by men, she was a woman centuries ahead of her time.

thank you David.

@@GG-yr5ix I don't think Elizabeth was one of the "greatest" monarchs... She kick-started slavery in England and also I can't imagine that the native Americans had a high opinion of the person who's subjects were invading their land and killing their people with her blessing. She was brutal and had a short temper like her father, but she confined her anger to the court it seems unlike him. There are only a few great things about her reign that I can think of. A, she defeated the Spanish armada with the help of the French, although accounts at the time suggest that it was luck because of the bad weather. B, the culture and art of England thrived during her reign, but I don't think that was because of her, as all culture and art was thriving at the time in Europe, no matter where you went. It was the renaissance after all. She was a patron though. And C, she was a Protestant, but not as extreme as her brother had been. By her time, most of the country had gotten used to Anglican ways (at least in the South. The majority of the population lived in the south and the north was quite empty at the time, and the further north you went, the more traditional and catholic people you got). Unlike her brother and sister, Elizabeth was far more liberal when it came to religion, but still quite strict. Many Catholics were killed (I think about 600) and they had to keep their practices behind closed doors so they wouldn't get found out. Edward wanted everyone to be a Protestant, so he was far more forceful. Same with Mary, only she was Catholic. But by Elizabeth's time, the religious turmoil within England had calmed down a little. It was still raging, but it wasn't as bad as before. People were starting to warm up to the new ways, as they called it. So I think the reason why Elizabeth is regarded as "great" was because her reign was largely seemingly peaceful compared to the reigns of her predecessors. The later parts of her reign were the most peaceful times.

He did not deserve her friendship though

@@mara3572 true. But he also didn't have her killed....

@@wickedkat5061 hee? Was he suppose too? Should we be grateful for that? Lol

@@mara3572 Henry the 8th had all of his wives killed unless they died on their own, the only 2 exceptions were his first wife Catherine, and Anne of Cleves.

​@@mara3572 He had his wives killed when he was done with them.

YES!

She was actually very intelligent.

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Not ugly? Agreed. 'Gorgeous'? Uhh... nah.

@@Veritas.0 beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find her gorgeous you do not, simple as that.

@@heatherpettigrew1615 Yea, but you're just engaging in that feminine activity of mindless positivity; "Oh my gosh your hair looks AMAZING!!" right after the stylist butchered her hair.

@@Veritas.0 no I'm not, I personally find her gorgeous, nothing more to it. It's not "feminist positivity" it's my personal opinion. And honestly I'm the first person to tell someone if their hair is butchered.

@@heatherpettigrew1615 'Feminine' not feminist. There's a window into your mind you left open.

Completely agree, she's gorgeous

Agree!

she was average

I know. She is pretty. She has an inteeligent, kind face. I feel a of warmth of character coming from her eyes.

Look at other paintings than Holbein's and try and find a description of her that was an independent observer from that time.

From a letter in the Royal archives that Henry wrote, expressing his dissatisfaction with Anne, he didn't like her full bosom. He preferred small breasts. The love letters he wrote to Ann Boleyn go on at length about her small breasts or "sweet little duckies" to use his expression!

This was long ago in the 60 s but we had a teacher who told us that king Henry rejected Anne of Cleves because she was above average height and ungainly...awkward and shy. She also said Henry was angry that holbein painted a portrait of Anne that was a little too flattering....he banished the painter. I always felt sympathy for Anne and when I grew to 5 foot 11 I began to realize that some men just don't like a tall woman....

@@sherryglisson4885 the tide has begun to turn my friend

I agree. I think she`s cute, her nose is charming and adds character.

He divorced her because the portraits were fake. She didn't look like that lmao

And the painting is made to make the woman fit the beauty standards of the day/ look better ... don't believe these are real images of the people

@@jennifermoriarty2188The incest ones are real no one wants that face

AND ........... *Thanks to the UK's Channel 5 TV station, we even know what Anne Bolyne's last words were* : . . . . It cuz I bleck innit?

​@Legion no shit

@@babboon5764 🤣

My Oma calls her's a "schnozz" and claims she can charm geese out of the sky when she blows it. A bold German nose is a glorious thing! May you be surrounded by smitten geese and smile at your own pretty reflection 💖🐥

@@MrQueerDuck that's so sweet

same I can see my own features in her face

Ay me too

Anne was beautiful and I am sure you are too. There is beauty in all cultures, shades and shapes. We need to get away from what television, movies, music videos and magazines say is beautiful as that is always changing and fleeting.

I definitely wouldnt call body types “fashion”

@@einhorntaschentuch9404 It is fashion. During the era of Henry the Eight big boobs were not fashionable those documentaries confirm this idea. Even during the seventies very large breasts were not number one on the list I remember this in person because I was there and I felt ugly because my body parts are large. Now I'm happy.

@@einhorntaschentuch9404 It's certainly fashion! Remember the "does this make my butt look big?" jokes of the 2000s? Now it's certainly considered something that's valued 😄

@@nickidaisydandelion4044 right phrase is beauty standards. but I get what u mean

@@shrutiiyer9531 What is fashion? Beauty standard. And that can shift any time.

Yep; my maternal family is still very strongly German (very weird to visit and suddenly be around SO MANY people who looked just like an aunt or grandmother or uncle), and Anna could easily pass for several of my cousins.

While I'd agree for the average man, he certainly would have no right to complain... I have to say, as a King he most definitely had the right to complain or be picky if he wish, perhaps not warranted, but the right given his status lol. Sort of like the 80+ year old billionaire who will only date hot 20 year olds because hot 20 year olds will willing date him for his money.

​@@xionnae3771 Nah, he didn't have any room to complain at all, given the circumstances and the culture of his time. He alienated a lot of European royalty when he spit in The Pope's face and made his own church. If that wasn't enough, he had an incredibly hard time getting a wife after he beheaded Anne Boleyn. If you can find the many letters from the women who rejected him, you should absolutely read them, they're hilarious. He wrote to one woman that he was looking for a large wife, and she wrote back something like "I must decline for I fear that though I am large, I have very little neck." This is still absolutely a case of "buddy, do you know what you look like? Do you know what you ACT like?"

@@haileybalmer9722 plus, he may have been more powerful than her family, but she was still royal after all. The comment made sound like she's nothing without him. He was the one who had to look for alliances and German royals were some of the hand full of options so it's not like he had a lot of women to pick from to begin with. His treatment of his first wife also certainly wasn't helpful for many monarchs to entrust him with their daughters.

The modern rendition looks a lot like the north central European descended people in the part of the US where I grew up, with ancestors from Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic.

She had cute large eyes and a cute smiling looking small mouth she didn't fit the standards of back then but that was it today she would be a little above average but not a lot she would be a 7.5

Holbein was limited by some of the fashion of the day. Also the standards of beauty changes significantly between 1500s and now.

Then there’s me who clicks on the vid bc I’m thinking “Wow! She’s gorgeous” lol

@@BlueMax507 I wouldn't do this to my close ones since it can come off as rude and superficial, but I think rating celebs and historical figures is alright since they gave up most of their privacy out of free will.

Yeah, I thought Henry said "Oh, she's ugly! She's much too ugly for me!" because she bruised his ego and he went sour grapes about it.

@@UrpleSquirrel That's exactly what it was. She hurt his poor little feelings. If he was so unattracted to her why would he sweep her into his arms and kiss her? xD

@@UrpleSquirrel 🎯

Henry was a narcissistic nightmare. I feel bad for the women who had to deal with him.

Of course she was. A virgo/Libra . Kind,gentle funny,never lazy and attractive.

Imagine she is replying to you from the past with deep and meaningful : "Lmao"

Small minded and so typical

@@brandontodd3799 People can't make jokes at you? You need special treatment?

@@ScarletEdge small minded

Very true indeed! If anything Henry should have been pleased from the start that Anne didn't flirt or do any of the sort to entertain the disguised Henry. But of course at the time he was going with the whole "true love will recognize" gig 😒. I think people nowadays would probably disguise themselves or ask a friend to approach their significant other to see if they remain faithful to them or not 😅. Overall Anne of Cleves made out like a bandit, literally kept her head on her shoulders, and outlived the other wives to boot! Not bad at all Cleves not bad at all 💅👏👍!

I wonder if part of Henry's belated admiration of Anne of Cleves could have been that he finally decided "the exciting personality of his previous wives" was a deceitful game to manipulate him, and Anne's gentle, intelligent, composed outlook suddenly became a lot more attractive.

Nailed it!

Lol pretty much 😂 - his ego was bruised so he needed to put her down. It seems like men haven’t change one slight bit.

Yes, this! such a strange thing, lol.

Somewhere there's probably undiscovered letters where he accuses her of being a lesbian.

Yes absolutely 💯 🙌 and the nerve of him, he is certainly NOT attractive at all.

Especially since Anne of Cleves knew Henry's reputation as a womanizer from her maids who observed in secret. How he mistreated his previous wives that came before him. Henry had already banished one wife, Catherine of Aragon, and executed another, Anne Boleyn. Other women he tried to betrothed himself to had immediately refused. Anne of Cleves was able to turn the situation into her favor by making herself look undesirable and unattractive to not only bruise Henry's ego, but also not marry him. She as able to get a good deal after her annulment: get a house of her own, salary and independence in England

@@ladyfire44 she didnt make herself unattractive. she just didnt' know enough about courtly love and flirtation to understand Henry and charm him

Anne Cleaves was a much more significant influence on Elizabeth I; Elizabeth I chose not to marry as well.

@@glen7318 Considering how he first approached her, Henry didn't know about courtly love and flirtation, either...

@@glen7318 'charm' him? look what happened to those who did charm him

Yes !!!

So what? He had wifes after her? Why shouldnt she have lied how masculine/ fertile he is too?

No

@@herzkine Anne was really beauriful henry i feel is such an insecure royalty.

If you did Tudor history at School, the leg ulcer was due to his syphilis....What a catch he was !

I would definitely marry her, and I’m a lot better looking than Henry, and a nicer guy too.

Everyone is too good for Henry lmao

Indeed. A fat ( using this physical trait as relevant because of his repulsive personality ) psychopath like him doesn't deserve a kind soul like she appears to have been.

@@jmwilliamsart Marrying dead people is a bit desperate...I think mormons do it..

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Oh jeez the god nuts and jesus freaks have arrived. America is awash with religious mania