RSA ANIMATE: Crises of Capitalism

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In this RSA Animate, celebrated academic David Harvey looks beyond capitalism towards a new social order. Can we find a more responsible, just, and humane economic system?
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@dkwroot
@dkwroot 7 жыл бұрын
The condensed version of his argument is that due to wage suppression and offshoring the rich are getting richer and everyone else is getting poorer. Since the poor can't afford to buy goods which spur economic growth, the entire economy shrinks. This cycles over and over until the economy crashes.
@debralegorreta1375
@debralegorreta1375 5 жыл бұрын
@Deniz Gunes That's right. Credit, no money, makes the whole world go round and round. We're indentured well into the next millennium.
@SCIENCEnENGINEER
@SCIENCEnENGINEER 3 жыл бұрын
Offshoring is not the problem. Real estate, financing, addictions, and lack of skills are the main problems.
@nobbynobnob4637
@nobbynobnob4637 3 жыл бұрын
There is a name for this specific process, “boom and bust cycles” happens once every few years and it is extremely detrimental
@neillholley5061
@neillholley5061 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is Capitalism. Capitalism in itself is inherently evil and brutal for the 99% of the world that is not part of the capital owner class. And if you're not part of the capitalist owner class, then you're one of the exploited. Capitalism does not work without economic worker exploitation. Capitalism creates lower classes in order to exploit and profit off of-prison slave labor, migrant worker exploitation, racism is even part of this.. perpetuating the lie that there are races/classes of people worth less than white people.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 Жыл бұрын
The poor don't have to buy goods, just let the government spend everything in military...
@BathedInMilk
@BathedInMilk Жыл бұрын
I have come back to this video every year since it came out and it only gets more depressingly relevant as the years go by. He called it all and nothing's changed in the intervening 13 years. If you're reading this and aren't a member already: Join a Union.
@Nein01
@Nein01 9 ай бұрын
Better yet, join a communist party. Unions are a great first step, but ultimately limited in their capacity to actually challenge capitalism itself. Most, if not all, big unions in the imperialist countries are pro capitalist unions, meaning there is no real fight for the interests of the working class in the foreground. Unions are often heavily influenced and controlled by capitalists or capitalist-friendly opportunists/careerists/bureaucrats and only operate as "co-management" organs to keep workers feeling complacent. There are far too many examples to name of unions being hijacked by corporate interests that continually mislead workers and do more harm than good. In the end, unions of this character not only pose zero threat to capitalism, but they actually help perpetuate capitalism by "stabilizing" it (allowing capitalists to maintain their power in exchange for small wage increases or other compensation). The great minds of Marx, Lenin, Luxemburg, and others have already proven long ago that capitalism cannot be reformed, rather it must be overthrown. The ruling class will NEVER give up their power and stolen wealth voluntarily, or without a fight. We really are facing the hard truth nowadays (especially facing the global environmental catastrophe) that there are only two options: socialism or barbarism. There is a lot of work needed to UNDO all the anti-communist propaganda spread by the capitalists over the last several decades. This educational work is especially important within workers unions so that they can begin to gain a new, revolutionary character rather than serving as mere employee management tools.
@VelhaGuardaTricolor
@VelhaGuardaTricolor 8 ай бұрын
The ultra elite will push for a WWIII. The American Bankers ( West Europeans ) and it will be just another RACKET. For them is just business.
@ConanDuke
@ConanDuke 4 жыл бұрын
A decade later... The zombie marches on.
@michaelsurname8668
@michaelsurname8668 4 жыл бұрын
This video is becoming painfully relevant again, now that we're in the early stages of another crash
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 4 жыл бұрын
dat algo
@supermanscat6930
@supermanscat6930 3 жыл бұрын
Capitalism is inherently prone to crisis
@michaelsurname8668
@michaelsurname8668 3 жыл бұрын
@@supermanscat6930 Oh, I agree. I just meant that current events are reminding us of how accurate these theories are
@edfoss9974
@edfoss9974 3 жыл бұрын
​@@supermanscat6930 Just as socialist societies without capitalism are prone to misery.
@supermanscat6930
@supermanscat6930 3 жыл бұрын
@@edfoss9974 Doesnt a crisis cause misery? The class system also causes misery. Minimum wage and slave labour
@urdisturbing
@urdisturbing 11 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting question to ask "Is a starving person Free?" I would argue that he is not. A man is free when he determines his own course of action, but a starving man is subservient to anyone who can feed him. He has no say over anything he does, so he is basically owned by someone else. If you say that he is free, at the very least you must admit that there are things in life that are more important than freedom. Food, for instance.
@allypoum
@allypoum 4 жыл бұрын
Getting on for ten years now. Still not having that open discussion.
@debralegorreta1375
@debralegorreta1375 5 жыл бұрын
Nine years on from this video and things have only gotten worse.
@mdaniels6311
@mdaniels6311 Жыл бұрын
Go through KZfaq and it's proof where nowgwre near to a solution. The capitalist superstructure is too powerful.
@nthperson
@nthperson 10 жыл бұрын
A part of the story that should be added is the story of how nature has come into private hands without compensation to the rest of the world's population for what is a privilege and not a right. Adam Smith raised this issue in "Wealth of Nations" and urged on his contemporaries that society collect the rent that arises as land increases in value because of aggregate demand. Thomas Paine also analyzed the way landed property is controlled and in "Agrarian Justice" declared that those who controlled land owed society the ground rent in exchange for the privilege enjoyed. Later in the 19th century, Henry George expanded greatly on this analysis in his writings. George argued the case for a labor and capital goods basis for property. Returns to labor and capital, George declared, are legitimate private property and should not be taxed. The legitimate source of public revenue is the annual potential rental value of land (i.e., of nature, generally), because no individual causes land to come to have exchange value.
@LaSachita
@LaSachita 8 жыл бұрын
The drawer is very talented, indeed!
@ahmaddeedatibrahim6631
@ahmaddeedatibrahim6631 7 жыл бұрын
The drawer has a lot of drawings. lulz.
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 4 жыл бұрын
The animation is brilliant but tbe speaker is clueless.
@turborooster8548
@turborooster8548 4 жыл бұрын
Considering you have the flag of an oppressive dictatorship, anything you say is invalid.
@nomisteaks
@nomisteaks 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign so tell me where he’s wrong
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomisteaks because he calls a mixed economy, capitalism, is he stupid or a liar. Politics and government is the overwhelming problem, and their manipulation of money to the advantage of their friends and massive corporations. That a socialist, who openly admits he has no solution, who is incapable of even describing the problem, is listened to for even a second is amazing.
@jlxproductions6997
@jlxproductions6997 7 жыл бұрын
Whoever does the drawings for these videos is super dope haha
@mge5378
@mge5378 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't read many comments about the drawing or animation process that had to be done for this video so here I go. Great work on producing this video. I might not agree with some of the points being made but its great to hear another side of the conversation. The presentation of this conversation in the animations and drawings was awesome and intriguing. Very cool.
@AnnoyedDragon
@AnnoyedDragon 10 жыл бұрын
Four years on from this video and things have only gotten worse.
@cr4yv3n
@cr4yv3n 9 жыл бұрын
Of course. Nothing changed.
@cr4yv3n
@cr4yv3n 9 жыл бұрын
yakyakyak69 I am only going to say this once 1. There is no such thing as FREE MARKET and there can NEVE - EVERRRR be. 2. Govt. involvement is not always bad 3. Capitalism requires inequality, poverty and even slavery and coercion. Slavery by wages and coercion through poverty. If you want to reply do it in SMALL comments that are to the point. If you are going to write inane walls of text about how i don't understand "freedom" , spare me the bullshit. If you want to reply that "this is not real capitalism but *crony capitalism* " or some other euphemism to try and scape goat your pet ideology AGAIN i will not bother replying to this idiotic statement. Have a nice day,
@karsy579
@karsy579 9 жыл бұрын
***** I overheard some guys at Princeton some weeks ago. They said that after studying what label to put on the US as a society with economics in mind. The answer was "oligarchy". Free markets in some way would surely be nice though.
@cr4yv3n
@cr4yv3n 9 жыл бұрын
karsy579 Full free market is impossible - from a logical point of view. The problem with capitalism is that eventually those who control the means of production and wealth decide they want more power. In other words, power corrupts ( duh :P ) A full free market is impossible because: a) a free market would be eventually be monopolized by one "player" => not free b) the government regulates against monopoly => the market is not free This is why Libertarianist ideologies are completely bonkers. Check out Richard Wolff's analysis - really powerful stuff.
@bassdrumsand
@bassdrumsand 9 жыл бұрын
***** that is why right wing libertarian ideologies are like that! Left Libertarians aren't exactly mainstream in the US, but they make a lot more sense than corporation worshippers...
@atzadio
@atzadio 2 жыл бұрын
this is as relevant today as it was 12 years ago
@joshparrott8841
@joshparrott8841 7 жыл бұрын
"You should know it is crap, and say that it is"
@vampyrikus
@vampyrikus 8 жыл бұрын
That was the Greatest display of "On the Fly" artistic ability that I've Ever seen!! Cheers
@victorhunt5788
@victorhunt5788 8 жыл бұрын
Loved this David Harvey ! Every school in the UK should have a copy of this placed on their curriculum for 1 hour a week .
@brotherlevis8553
@brotherlevis8553 9 жыл бұрын
Well... You forgot to mention that money is debt and created out of thin air since the dollar is no more backed by the gold standart. This also is the reason why inflation is escalating because there is just no limits of dollars being put into circulation. This is why there are more billionaires, the federal reserve loans unlimited amount of dollars, creating more inflation of prices and economic bubbles that look like the economy is growing when in fact the people's debt is growing and they benefit from people's debt.
@EvansRowan123
@EvansRowan123 9 жыл бұрын
So, your solution to a risk of escalating inflation, is to return to a system that guarantees escalating deflation? That couldn't possibly be bad for the economy!
@P3RF3CTD3ATH
@P3RF3CTD3ATH 9 жыл бұрын
Rowan Evans It would be better to have deflation than to continue making money out of thin air. Because having a currency with nothing to back it is totally good for the economy. -_-
@mayhemnecrobutcher
@mayhemnecrobutcher 9 жыл бұрын
Rowan Evans It's not a "solution to a risk of escalating inflation", it's a solution to definite, current and inevitably accelerating inflation. The idea that you can have a prosperous economy without competing currencies is even more insane then the leftist intellectual gymnastics in this video.
@EvansRowan123
@EvansRowan123 9 жыл бұрын
Maxime Laneville What do competing currencies have to do with it? Is this supposed to be the means by which inflation gets "inevitably accelerated"? Are you advocating that gold must exist as a currency in competition with government issued ones?
@mayhemnecrobutcher
@mayhemnecrobutcher 9 жыл бұрын
Rowan Evans Haha nooooo the only way that a currency inevitably inflates is when a government monopolizes it (and in this case, counterfeits it). And no I don't think the government issued currency can compete with anything because it has no real value. It only retains value in the present economy BECAUSE other currencies are banned by the government. I don't advocate gold, bitcoin, or any specific currency I'm just pointing out the basic economic reality that a healthy economy needs competing currencies because it's a basic fact that often get left out of the discussion.
@xaven8168
@xaven8168 9 жыл бұрын
We need an even bigger and harder crash to see something changing.
@dickhamilton3517
@dickhamilton3517 9 жыл бұрын
Xa Ven coming right up...!
@DavidAllen-px7gr
@DavidAllen-px7gr 6 жыл бұрын
If one can make a crash destroy the economy, then they should do it.
@RedIria
@RedIria 9 жыл бұрын
Why is the audio conclusion of this video, after 10:40, when it shows the financier visually in jail.. muted?
@kawaii_hawaii222
@kawaii_hawaii222 2 жыл бұрын
From which lecture is this taken? Does anyone have a written version I can reference? I'd be happy if anyone could help me !
@kfaakuffo1820
@kfaakuffo1820 7 жыл бұрын
Have come to this 7 years on. Great analysis. same conditions and practices abound. Hmm
@gmenezesdea
@gmenezesdea 8 жыл бұрын
We're not debating it because capitalism can only tolerate so much criticism, but not questioning of whether it should still be around or not. Simultaneously, the people who own the money and the media tell us incessantly that all alternatives to capitalism are worse than it.
@humanitasubique
@humanitasubique 8 жыл бұрын
+Gustavo Menezes Form a group with me (we can discuss the structure of this group) to discuss how to change that. I would like to discuss this subject with (not limited to) like-minded people. Kind regards
@fredsucksbutt124
@fredsucksbutt124 8 жыл бұрын
+Gustavo Menezes It's called libertarian-socialism lol. Socialism without a state is the only logical way. We know socialism with a state doesn't work, we know capitalism without a state is a fantasy contradiction, we know that capitalism with a state barely works.
@DavidAllen-px7gr
@DavidAllen-px7gr 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Thank you.
@quixotic7460
@quixotic7460 6 жыл бұрын
Anarchism is a legit school of political thought, in this day and age only an uneducated twat can still think it means edgy punk kids breaking windows. Have you taken your knowledge of politics from MTV? Do yourself a favor and go read the Conquest of Bread.
@feartheghus
@feartheghus 5 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Menezes name a single country doing well as a communist or socialist country.
@MAGNUMNINJA
@MAGNUMNINJA 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing work,well drawn images to a well spoken man, u did a very good job capturing what he was saying with the images
@amazingabby4363
@amazingabby4363 6 жыл бұрын
so like i got a homework assignment to do and i need help because its really difficult for me to process this video onto paper so can someone please help me the question is to pick 3-5 points that i took away from the video about capitalism
@AnnoyedDragon
@AnnoyedDragon 9 жыл бұрын
Since globalism dis-empowered labour because of the resulting competition of a global labour force, wages have been collapsing globally for the majority of the population. As pointed out in this video they compensated for that by issuing cheap credit, they also compensated for it by subsidising private sector wages with state welfare (e.g. tax credits). Well the 2008 crisis brought the end to the cheap credit cards, austerity measures are also wiping out welfare spending. So people are being left with their stagnant wages with nothing to prop them up. So business world, where is your demand going to come from now? Global businesses refuse to pay their labour a living wage, yet they expect this same labour to go out and spend to keep their profits growing each and every year. It's not a situation that can be sustained, you cannot grow spending in the face of falling wages. Arguably globalism which was supposed to liberate Capitalism has in fact broken it, with it only being a question of when this whole thing will collapse.
@johnlemberger5088
@johnlemberger5088 9 жыл бұрын
AnnoyedDragon The 1% don't make a profit by selling you stuff. They wait until the economy collapses and then buy up your assets for pennies on the pound.
@jacklu1190
@jacklu1190 9 жыл бұрын
There is a theory in economics right now that once global wages catch up with the other "advance" countries, wages in the U.S. will rebound.
@sterbprepper4798
@sterbprepper4798 8 жыл бұрын
What is your definition of globalism anyway to me sounds like a global socialism. As far as I'm concern free market paves the road for what we think globalism is.
@AnnoyedDragon
@AnnoyedDragon 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Jung Tell me I'm misreading your post, are you seriously trying to blame Socialism for the current state of the world?
@sterbprepper4798
@sterbprepper4798 8 жыл бұрын
Your using vague terms. "Globalism" which was "suppose' to liberate capitalism...?? Where do you get the notion of globalism? As far as im concern its a vague term that has positive connotation such as world peace and end to world hunger. It is but free trade that brings countries together. A global market. Then how is this "suppose" to liberate capitalism? And what does that even mean? The use of terms are vague.
@hieuthepunk
@hieuthepunk 10 жыл бұрын
first i want to thank u for letting me know that i still have to improve my english much much more
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 4 жыл бұрын
how's it going with the english hiếu?
@hieuthepunk
@hieuthepunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@asuka_the_void_witch LoL good. it's been 6 years. I don't even remember what this video is about
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 4 жыл бұрын
@@hieuthepunk well, as long as your english improved since 6 years ago, you kept your promise haha =D
@jokan3821
@jokan3821 2 жыл бұрын
@@hieuthepunk Congrats hieu
@chenshuo5351
@chenshuo5351 2 жыл бұрын
As this is this 7th year can you tell us how much your English has improved.
@saadhussain7910
@saadhussain7910 10 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know what he meant when he mentioned the Queen. How did you let what happen, I am confused.
@rimmijohnson3361
@rimmijohnson3361 10 жыл бұрын
Surely, the information is fascinating, but I am always mesmerized by the drawings
@666metalhead420
@666metalhead420 11 жыл бұрын
This was a great video and I admire the effort put into these animations. I don't think there is a one-size-fit-all solution for our global problems. The problem lies in the fact that modern capitalism developed closely with the state apparatus, which lawfully enforces more or less singular policies. Different regions with unique ways of life and subsistence should decide their own local economies, instead we were attached to a system that haphazardly attempts to serve a multitude of needs.
@rodentRoundup
@rodentRoundup 10 жыл бұрын
Wonderful lecture, certainly reminds me of Einstein's words--that the choice is between Socialism or Barbarism, not meaning, of course, to step over the speaker's support of Marxism with some topic of Socialism. But without a doubt, as he implies, it is certainly nearing a time, one long overdue by now, mind, at which we as humans must evolve beyond our early predatory stage--surely we are better than that. Surely we don't need to compete for resources, there are enough for all of us and then some if we start making goods meant to last and not meant to make money fast. I should think it is soon--the wage gap increases and old advocates become increasingly aware that in a system built on competition, you can only have as many or more losers than winners, and in a time of such understanding as ours, do we all really wish to spend our lives trying to win, when it makes others lose, or when we ourselves lose? What is it all worth then, anyway? Great lecture, wonderful animations, glad to have seen it. c:
@charmed1991ify
@charmed1991ify 10 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, very informative videos, makes alot of sense, everyone needs to start waking up to this.
@robbidder
@robbidder 10 жыл бұрын
My comment may be swept away pretty quick by the verocious debate below. But I just wanted to say thanks for putting up this informative video and I really like the drawing style in this series. I especially like the little puns and references to pop culture (peanuts, monopoly) dropped in - very clever. Thanks!
@doodelay
@doodelay 10 жыл бұрын
The largest downside of capitalism is that it is not equipped to handle the looming shadow of job loss as robotics replaces people. This is why capitalism is on it's last century and why a new economic system must emerge.
@troooooper100
@troooooper100 10 жыл бұрын
socialism is inevitable...we should make that transition smoother by taking actions collectively instead. Eventually most tasks will be done by robots and those robots can't be owned by certain companies. All of us need to be the part of that company, have shares, and since everyone is going to be part of it...it should be owned by govt a public entity.
@doodelay
@doodelay 10 жыл бұрын
answerOfstupids No, it should be jointly owned by the people and the ceo, therefore giving the people power. Which they don't have at the moment. Government owned businesses is not the way to go, learn from the past. Again, the businesses should be jointly owned by both the people and the CEOs.
@cyberpunkspike
@cyberpunkspike 10 жыл бұрын
doodelay Question, why can't the workers own directly? Or the consumers, in the case of utilities? Actual ownership by the people directly involved. Why should a CEO, chosen by capitalists, be part of the equation at all? Why shouldn't leadership be chosen by the workers directly?
@manudehanoi
@manudehanoi 9 жыл бұрын
doodelay no robots for you, throw away your computer, forget youtube and go watch documentaries at the theater.
@doodelay
@doodelay 9 жыл бұрын
manu de hanoi a computer isn't a fucking robot bro lol
@worldlifesamer
@worldlifesamer 5 жыл бұрын
9 Years on from this video and things hove only got worse
@mwaseem6
@mwaseem6 10 жыл бұрын
please provide hi res photos of these to download
@ahhhwh
@ahhhwh 8 жыл бұрын
Can i get this Animation somewhere as a pdf or on a blog?
@MGTOWJesus1985
@MGTOWJesus1985 8 жыл бұрын
great video. I enjoyed it and absorbed the information.
@mhikl4484
@mhikl4484 8 жыл бұрын
+MGTOW Jesus The best way to listen to this is to wind the window up so the distraction of the artistry does not get in the way of the message. We connect with the human form talking to us, we connect with the human voice. The game of the hands distracts from the message. Namaste and care, mhikl
@aidanivesdavis
@aidanivesdavis 10 жыл бұрын
What the Hell is with all the pausing? With the enormous effort that went into animating the video, you would think they would've taken a few minutes to make sure it all actually flowed together.
@jeanlucthomson2323
@jeanlucthomson2323 10 жыл бұрын
Maybe in order to not breach copy-right-bullshit or something. Copied from lecture therefore has to be inferior for some obscure reason.
@aidanivesdavis
@aidanivesdavis 10 жыл бұрын
:/
@lisahind5988
@lisahind5988 9 жыл бұрын
Ok, I am just at my introductory phase concerning the above . I appreciate this information and animation. Makes it much clearer for me previously middle class person in Canada. I am glad there are more of these videos. I wonder if video education like this and related ones are used in Canadian colleges and universities and independent higher learning? Could you please expand upon this? Thank you.
@SociologyProfessor
@SociologyProfessor 9 жыл бұрын
Lisa Hind Hi Lisa - I teach Canadian university students and also create instructor aids for a higher-ed publishing company. I consistently incorporate and recommend videos for use in the classroom - students engage with the material, and the follow-up discussion is very 'animated' :)
@barbkueber8244
@barbkueber8244 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic artwork!! Amazing!
@KevZen2000
@KevZen2000 3 жыл бұрын
Centralization of power is the main issue. It enables a few people to manipulate and rig the economy in their favor. Multiple decentralized equalitarian communities, such as anarchist syndalicism, are feasible. State Socialism doesn't work. It only centralizes power, no matter how benign it's intentions are.
@christopherepperson3583
@christopherepperson3583 8 жыл бұрын
How many books would you have to read in order to gain the understanding of this empirical verification of capital gain? How many years of studying? I just gained all that knowledge in 15 minutes on youtube. Me wasting my time on this proves the fact that as capital increases that labor decreases. Alan Watts was right on how jobs would become useless in being replaced by automatons, the Pantheistic Buddhism integrating consciousness into the cloud computer? Or Christ? You have choices to make.
@Bisquick
@Bisquick 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Marx also mentions the trajectory of humanity into mere machinery for capital accumulation and even extrapolates this to conceive that generalized mental labor will be discreetly machinated which, if you're generous with thinking about abstractions and consider he wrote it like 200 years ago, is pretty much a prediction of the whole goal of developing AI, which I found pretty amazing/awesome if nothing else. But I definitely agree that this sort of backlash against religious dogmatism from the enlightenment essentially threw out the meaningful spiritual baby with the totalitarian bathwater, and perhaps worse is that it wasn't really "thrown out" so much as it has changed in appearance. "The market" and broad enforcement capitalist realism narrows our imagination/collective goals to the point of effectively having instituted the same dogmatism in a different distorted lexicon. Basically Nietzsche's underlying point in decrying the "death" of god. Yeeeeeeeah...not lookin' too good for this whole humanity thing.
@taina8622
@taina8622 3 жыл бұрын
Bisquick can you explain what you both are referring to in regard to religion? Are you saying Buddhism is the new doctrine?
@alybd3470
@alybd3470 3 жыл бұрын
@@taina8622 No God is basically the equivalent of "dads not home! We can do whatever we want!", we're going to end up in a lord of the flies situation very quickly.
@lovelance__5892
@lovelance__5892 3 жыл бұрын
Read a book titled Capital in the Twenty-First Century by a French economist called Thomas Piketty. Afterward, if you are not exhausted or denying it, read "Capital and Ideology" by same owner, then a Brief History of Neoliberalism by the very speaker of this video.
@Philospoh83
@Philospoh83 11 жыл бұрын
awesome!! visualisation is the best way to make more people understand
@lemonadeez
@lemonadeez 11 жыл бұрын
I love watching this guy draw. It's fantastic.
@FrankGainsford
@FrankGainsford 9 жыл бұрын
What are your views on CAPITALISM?
@roohdarX
@roohdarX 9 жыл бұрын
+Sgt Moose Great, now you have quoted Thatcher, another beacon of equality and working class lover. (Mind the sarcasm) I think you're just taking quotes out of a google search and posting them. Please read some basic economics before you comment. Also, you should know financialisation by Raegan/Thatcher is exactly what led to the global economic crisis of 2008.
@Mrkris2111
@Mrkris2111 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved it!
@houssemsaidaoui2143
@houssemsaidaoui2143 3 жыл бұрын
Doing an amazing job!!
@jackaslope
@jackaslope 8 жыл бұрын
oh my god I love this so much
@shreder89
@shreder89 9 жыл бұрын
well the thing is that if governement gets on the side of the workers, the owners of the industries will go offshore, because they a re moved by maximizing proffits, that´s it. So you move industries out of europe, usa,canada,etc. to countries like china, india,pakistan, south africa,etc. Then the workers in THOSE countries get screwed and ask for better working conditions, and eventually they get them, that wont solve it either cause capital will find new sweatshops like nigeria, kenya, etc. in a cycle that goes on forever. What we will see in the next few years i beleive is a massive kind of intervention or reseting in the economic cycles, throwing us into unknown unreveiled terrain where god knows what can happen, but one thing is for sure: the prime forces and interest of the market will always be the same: maximize profits, minimize loses in an ever increasing pace.
@klausmaxwell3936
@klausmaxwell3936 7 жыл бұрын
Great work but why do you guys always have the audio cut off and have complete on and off silence?
@tessazeilmaker9403
@tessazeilmaker9403 9 жыл бұрын
I would really like to know who the artist is of those animations? :)
@Kickstart1Godeater
@Kickstart1Godeater 10 жыл бұрын
I find that people often like to argue straw man points when it comes to open discussion about the problems of "free market" capitalism and alternative solutions. Instead of building an open environment where people dialogue about solutions to the worlds problems we constantly achieve antagonistic debates about unrealistic expectation of "real" capitalism. No matter how you slice it market economics: socialism, communism and any form of capitalism are wholly incapable of resolving the world's problems of war, scarcity and environment. The first step toward realistic solutions means looking at that statement objectively, if not scientifically, and w/reason. Next, any real solution begins with the very real assumption that the real wealth of any nation is in its natural resources and its people. Here we can begin by making one another increasing aware of this reality and begin working toward a more humane life-style through the elimination of scarcity. All social systems, regardless of the political philosophy, religious beliefs, or social mores, ultimately depend upon natural resources -- i.e. clean air and water and arable land area -- and the industrial equipment and technical personnel for a high standard of living. The money- based system was designed hundreds of years ago and was hardly appropriate for that time. We still utilize this same outmoded system, which is probably responsible for most of today's problems.
@Bennehh
@Bennehh 10 жыл бұрын
@riKringkast, it's worth mentioning that many Scandinavian countries had a system which was close to a Capitalist free-market before the current one today. Sweden is the best example of this. 150 years ago Sweden was a very poor country and it was riddled with crop failure. There was a lack of health services, sanitation, overcrowding, etc. Many people lodged in with other families and disease was pretty abundant. Between 1850 and 1950 the average Swedish income multiplied 8 times whilst the population doubled. Sweden had the fastest economic and social development in history. During this time, the life expectancy rose by almost 30 years and infant mortality fell dramatically. This was all during a time where the taxes were very low and the public sector was tiny than in the rest of Europe and the United States. After this, Swedish politicians started placing taxes on people and disbursing handouts on a large scale, redistributing the wealth that workers had already created. In short; Sweden's biggest social and economic successes were when Sweden had an almost laissez-faire economy, and before wealth was widely distributed by the welfare state. Simply saying that these countries are fantastic because they have this, this and this -- whilst ignoring the history is with respect, rather silly.
@iva6486
@iva6486 10 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful synopsis. It's a shame people with strong opinions and no knowledge/ability of enquiry leave vehemently ignorant comments.
@Camcolito
@Camcolito 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, very creative.
@user-tx7gd3ow4e
@user-tx7gd3ow4e 3 жыл бұрын
Author, you're absolutely right. The modern economic model leads the world to the abyss.
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 8 жыл бұрын
Why is there no debate and discussion on economics? Because it's a high entry level discussion, people can only chew what they can pretend to know about. Finance on the other hands takes hard facts and hard learning to understand let alone master. Hence economics is not a problem the common man can process, let alone solve.
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 8 жыл бұрын
+TheSquidPro I have no idea what's he talking about.
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 8 жыл бұрын
***** There's no excuse for not being educated in today's world, all the information is a click away. Public libraries are in abundance, and all schools except for the tippest of the toppest are free. The unambitious will always be at a disadvantage to the ambitious, but that is no fault of society.
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still saying that economic texts confuse me and I have no idea what it all is.
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 8 жыл бұрын
***** Mandatory education is just a benefit of maintaining a societal standard, if you don't have the agency to educate yourself than you're not as smart as you claim to be schools or otherwise. Meanwhile you try to water the argument of the internet down with baseless drivel then conveniently ignore the libraries who are not 50 bucks a month, luckily for everywhere fibre optic doesn't reach books do. Billions of people don't need access to the internet, billions of people have more pressing issues like "Lets try to listen to all these specialists the west keeps sending and not forget to feed ourselves." or "Lets reject foreign aid so a domestic market can start blooming" or "Maybe democracy isn't a great idea in countries racked by populism and superstition or foreign infiltrators." or "Lets dig a hole outside the city instead of throwing trash two steps away from my doorstep" Basic stuff that doesn't need the internet. It's not hard to reveal who is lazy. From top to bottom there are those who climb and those who wallow being "content", hence any system discriminates against the poor because the poor do not actively choose in life, not they let choices be made for them just like how the media regurgitates opinions for them to absorb in the same way you envision schools. So I will state again that it is immensely easy to separate the wheat from the chaff, because the ambitious choose their lives and do not let it be chosen for them.
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 8 жыл бұрын
I'm just saying that every time I pick up an economic textbook it makes my head spin, I'm not arguing that information is hard to access, there's also a problem of comprehending the texts.
@andreapandinelli7507
@andreapandinelli7507 4 жыл бұрын
majestic video, thanks to David Harvey.
@georgelouis6515
@georgelouis6515 10 жыл бұрын
Who ever drew this is very good at drawing.
@lesliewhite6832
@lesliewhite6832 9 жыл бұрын
I saw very few (if any) flaws in that evaluation.
@ilkeryoldas
@ilkeryoldas 9 жыл бұрын
The solution is simple: cooperatives
@egregius9314
@egregius9314 6 жыл бұрын
There's little specific reason why co-ops couldn't compete with multinationals on the same level, no? I think the only reason the biggest companies aren't co-ops is that there's so few of them, and they're less likely to agressively expand as they go by consensus and member-investment usually. That said, one of the biggest banks in the Netherlands started cooperatively, and several large companies in Spain are co-ops.
@actfree6897
@actfree6897 6 жыл бұрын
There is more needed than just cooperatives. Competition still exists within a cooperative-based system.
@JenkemSuperfan
@JenkemSuperfan 6 жыл бұрын
Act Free yeah, and that breeds innovation. The cure for economic crises is not the economic equivalent of playing soccer without the ball and then giving everyone a participation medal.
@tertium_quid
@tertium_quid 6 жыл бұрын
searchoverload8 false equivalency
@VeganSemihCyprus33
@VeganSemihCyprus33 6 жыл бұрын
Resource Based Economy such as proposed by The Venus Project
@dylanparker130
@dylanparker130 10 жыл бұрын
loving the idea of german dismissing something as `anglo-saxon & therefore nothing to do with them'! :D
@Snarfangel
@Snarfangel 10 жыл бұрын
I was hoping when he mentioned the mortgage interest deduction -- and especially when he brought out the Monopoly ("Capitalism") board -- that he would have mentioned Henry George. I think George's solution to the crisis of capitalism (taxing "land" -- in the economic sense of natural resources of inherently fixed supply -- rather than labor, capital, and trade) makes more sense than the common ownership of all the means of production. Still, a fun animation.
@phm0750
@phm0750 7 жыл бұрын
I got a Prager U ad before this video.
@jwrosenbury
@jwrosenbury 10 жыл бұрын
This video seems to skip the role of management. Western style free market capitalism is based on a triangle of labor, capital, and management. Power needs to be balanced between the three legs. Labor provides demand. Capital provides broad policy (i.e. vision). Management provides day to day functioning. Due to advances in management techniques (some technical, some social/legal) management has striped the other two legs of power. Thus the fundamental problem of capitalism has once again reared it's head -- Winners accumulate too much power, The winners come to control the system and inevitably move it away from its free market roots by making monopolies and the like.
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio 10 жыл бұрын
Nobody has ever managed to create a monopoly through a free market, absent government intervention. All of the real, coercive monopolies which restricted supply to earn monopoly profits at the expense of consumers were created with the help of government. All of the classic examples of suppsed monopolies persecuted under antitrust laws were increasing production, improving quality, and bringing their products to consumers at ever falling prices. This includes Standard Oil and John Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and Cornelius Vandervilt was actually a monopoly breaker. He defied a government imposed monopoly on steamboat traffic on the Hudson river.
@iliyan-kulishev
@iliyan-kulishev 10 жыл бұрын
SaulOhio Who told you the market can be "free" ? No wonder we've never seen it in this utopian form...
@iliyan-kulishev
@iliyan-kulishev 10 жыл бұрын
Role of management ?Tell me how valuable is your vision for making more money straight from money mister creative entrepreneur ? And labor provides demand my ass, under this system it is the capitalist class that solely creates the demand, the laws of supply and demand just direct the labor. "the fundamental problem of capitalism has once again reared it's head -- Winners accumulate too much power, The winners come to control the system and inevitably move it away from its free market roots by making monopolies and the like." Well since it always finishes like this why on Earth you think it has "free market" roots ? How many more years we are going to repair and patch a system that cannot meet even the basic needs of human society ?
@jwrosenbury
@jwrosenbury 10 жыл бұрын
Ilian Kulishev A free market is one where market participants are free to enter and leave at will. They are economically efficient since success breeds imitation and new ideas quickly permeate the entire market. Of course this isn't always a good thing. For example intellectual property laws are designed to limit the free market. Also, economic efficiency is not the end all, be all of life. Having dirt cheap food for 9 years running then no food in the tenth year would be bad, even if the average cost was lower than moderately priced food at all times. BTW, since no one is free to leave the health care market, "Free Market Health Care" is a lie.
@jwrosenbury
@jwrosenbury 10 жыл бұрын
Ilian Kulishev You are confusing capital with management. Capital uses money to make money. Management directs workers in useful directions. During the corporate "reforms" of the late 1980s businesses were being bought, broken, and sold. Workers were losing jobs so they thought this was bad. They supported rules that made boards of directors beholden to the companies CEOs (that's management) instead of stockholders (capital). Since then CEOs usually pay themselves bloated salaries for shipping jobs overseas. In other words they ship their own work (managing employees) overseas while giving themselves a raise. Both employees and stockholders (often retired employees BTW) suffer. But there's nothing they can do. Management has most of the power. Also, in our consumer society it is spending workers who provide demand for products. The hundred or so billionaires just don't eat that many hamburgers (for example).
@a5232106
@a5232106 10 жыл бұрын
very nice, was expecting some wallerstein but still good
@PedrovanderMeer
@PedrovanderMeer 8 жыл бұрын
The absence of doubt, I like that!
@wailinburnin
@wailinburnin 10 жыл бұрын
Total genius!
@Polumetis
@Polumetis 10 жыл бұрын
He's an idiot.
@wailinburnin
@wailinburnin 10 жыл бұрын
John Doe Jr. Which he? I was talking about the animator on the white board. If I could do that, that's all I'd do. There is a problem with Capitalism, by the way, at least the new Pope thinks so.
@Polumetis
@Polumetis 10 жыл бұрын
Oh, sure he's a good drawer. There isn't a problem with Capitalism, there never has been.
@anthonyblackburn7776
@anthonyblackburn7776 10 жыл бұрын
John Doe Jr. Sure, if you're rich.
@Polumetis
@Polumetis 10 жыл бұрын
Anthony Blackburn You have no idea how the economy works, do you?
@awsomeguy001
@awsomeguy001 8 жыл бұрын
We need to stop government regulation and let the free market work things out itself. That is how we can avoid a repeat of 2008
@sirwilliambowlertonesq.2385
@sirwilliambowlertonesq.2385 8 жыл бұрын
+awsomeguy001 The free market doesn't exist. Without the government enforcing private property laws capitalism wouldn't exist.
@anarchocommunist9154
@anarchocommunist9154 8 жыл бұрын
+awsomeguy001 No, we need to move beyond capitalism altogether.
@awsomeguy001
@awsomeguy001 8 жыл бұрын
Anarcho Communist Watch the PragerU video "Myths Of Capitalism"
@anarchocommunist9154
@anarchocommunist9154 8 жыл бұрын
awsomeguy001 PragerU is just neoliberal capitalist propaganda. The problems with capitalism aren't just myths.
@awsomeguy001
@awsomeguy001 8 жыл бұрын
Did you watch it?
@RollingPangcake
@RollingPangcake 10 жыл бұрын
What do you call this kind of smart revolutionary people that is so grecefully helping us understand the world and informs us of progress and other awsome stuff that makes you just want to learn more and more and contribute to the world??
@fernie51296
@fernie51296 10 жыл бұрын
Great watch!
@TheMojomo
@TheMojomo 9 жыл бұрын
“They say that life is an accident, driven by sexual desire, that the universe has no moral order, no truth, no God. Driven by insatiable lusts, drunk on the arrogance of power, hypocritical, deluded, their actions foul with self-seeking, tormented by a vast anxiety that continues until their death, convinced that the gratification of desire is life's sole aim, bound by a hundred shackles of hope, enslaved by their greed, they squander their time dishonestly piling up mountains of wealth. "Today I got this desire, and tomorrow I will get that one; all these riches are mine, and soon I will have even more. Already I have killed these enemies, and soon I will kill the rest. I am the lord, the enjoyer, successful, happy, and strong, noble, and rich, and famous. Who on earth is my equal?” Krishna describing the anti-Christ and ignorance.
@c4p4c1t1v3
@c4p4c1t1v3 8 жыл бұрын
The answer is a switch to an economy based on the commons and mathematics (the blockchain). We need to transcend our view of money and power. Look up Jeremy Rifkin, he's got it. We are going to return to a truly free and global market with many currencies representing our belief in certain things, ideas, and cultures. Capitalism as it stands now (particularly in America) depends on perpetual growth and kicking the can down the road, forcing people and nations to take on debt. Now we are seeing the worst of all materialistic ideologies. The US dollar means nothing, the fed and government keep it going with manipulation and misdirection. But hey, we can't do anything about it until the infrastructure of the new global economy really starts to take off. It starts with us as a people, support decentralization, open-source technology, and the dedicated shift to renewable energy.
@FreeCommunist
@FreeCommunist 11 жыл бұрын
I'm still relatively confused. What does he mean when he says it creates barriers and then circumvents them? In the demonstration, what was the barrier, exactly? Apart from that, great video!
@cosmokramer9378
@cosmokramer9378 9 жыл бұрын
"It's time we got back to Keynes." I hate to break it to you, but we have been living in Keynes country for decades.
@revmysleds
@revmysleds 9 жыл бұрын
We were never at hayek. It's not even keynes, its a manipulated keynes. Hayek would have never bailed out the bankers, the video never even touches on it. You bail out the losers there is no end to the cost.
@talori5417
@talori5417 9 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in homeownership, I want to learn how to get out this money state that I am in... I feel like the answer is going to come to me because my mind has changed a lot but I don't really know to many like believers. I want financial freedom for my daughters and myself. Still trying to figure out the smartest and fastest and cheapest way. Than I'll move to a third world country or something and live in a tree house! LOL!
@comicsans3845
@comicsans3845 4 жыл бұрын
Karl Marx is a goldmine
@joshuagall7252
@joshuagall7252 3 жыл бұрын
So long as you want to fix a paper cut using amputation
@MrGman543
@MrGman543 11 жыл бұрын
without the price mechanism how will we be able to allocate resources without having surpluses and shortages? what is money, and why do we use it?
3 ай бұрын
I remember hearing from Steve Keen years ago (sorta paraphrasing Minsky) that Finance was meant to be the cost of doing business, and never a way a generator of profit and capitol.
@marcusporciuscatotheyounge5795
@marcusporciuscatotheyounge5795 10 жыл бұрын
I do not have a dog in this fight, but I find it perplexing that Sociologist use Marxian analysis to study Capitalism. However the Scholars who actually study Capitalism, Economists, rarely even mention Marxian critiques. And usually, this dismissal of Marxian analysis is done without much respect. I can only conclude that Sociologist's, or anybody else, who uses Marxian critique of Capitalism is not taken very seriously by anyone but fringe Sociologists and others of that ilk. After watching Zeitgeist video's, Sociologists debates and other Anti-Capitalist videos, I can not rid myself of the conclusion that people using Marxian Critiques are merely Pseudo intellectuals with a chip on their shoulders. Sociologists seem the most overly emotional,
@docteurmundele2161
@docteurmundele2161 10 жыл бұрын
its easy, marx points at several problems with american-style democracy. it hurts the establishment so economists (who work for what we call the establishment btw) talk about marx in denigrating terms. if they do otherwise they put their career at stake as the establishment is very vidicative. besides, all thats interesting with marx is him pointing at social issues created by/because of economic laws as well as excesses made possible by capitalizm in its extremes. its not fag blabber, its economists who use economy to have power over government so over us. they zeitgeit fags are only a sickness of today- they talk compassion to hide their own weakness.
@docteurmundele2161
@docteurmundele2161 10 жыл бұрын
besides, marx is 50% utopian bullshit-his economical views- and 50% critique over social issues created by/because of capitalizm -pure social issues- thats why it is irrelevant to economists. as sociology is a half-science cuz poor sociologists dont know much about economics and economics determine social wellness- the best way to keep everybody in the dark, but were into another debate, and its too long for yt comments
@Owltoad
@Owltoad 5 жыл бұрын
First, learn that not every noun is capitalized, second, learn that plural nouns don't have apostrophes. Then make an argument. I didn't even read your post, because nobody would take it seriously. Big words, though. At least you can spell.
@JXZ-JAM
@JXZ-JAM 10 жыл бұрын
Gosh. He gets so much right in here while at the same time getting SO much wrong. He's right, Capitalism can't solve it's crisis problems, not because it's a flaw in capitalism, but because capitalism pretty much DOESN'T exist in the major economics of not just the US and Europe, but in the whole world. It's silly to think Capitalism is part of the problem.
@James-vb8rb
@James-vb8rb 4 жыл бұрын
funny I stumble on this video exactly ten years after it was made, April 26, 2020.
@proutpromotions6827
@proutpromotions6827 9 жыл бұрын
Please check out 'Progressive utilisation theory' (PROUT). Some key ideas for economy include - co-operatives at the centre of the economy, a ceiling as well as a floor on wages and wealth, economic democracy. Decentralized, deeply ecological, etc.
@TheNewWubble
@TheNewWubble 10 жыл бұрын
The issues of "capitalism" in this video appear to have nothing to do with results coming out of a free market, but rather the catastrophic consequences of governments meddling in the market. I think it's misleading to say this crises belong to capitalism. I would argue that they are issues caused by governments.
@TheNewWubble
@TheNewWubble 10 жыл бұрын
I've been looking around for a critique of capitalism that doesn't take the issues governments make, and blame capitalism as the cause of these issues. This video and others I've seen are critiques of crony capitalism. They are excellent critiques, I should mention, just not critiques of what they think they're critiquing.
@tertium_quid
@tertium_quid 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Colby What you call “crony capitalism” or “corporatism” is simply already the standard feature of capitalism. The whole fundamental of capitalism is to maximize one’s own capital for the sake of.. well.. capital.. The capitalist state ensures this through infrastructure spending, the issuing of money, and enforcing capital maximizing based properties (“private property in factories, corps, enclosure of the commons, imperialism, etc”) . www.filmsforaction.org/news/the-iron-fist-behind-the-invisible-hand-corporate-capitalism-as-a-stateguaranteed-system-of-privilege/
@LucisFerre1
@LucisFerre1 10 жыл бұрын
There is no "exploitation of the workers", as the employee's labor is worth less to him than it's worth to the employer, and the reason for that is that the labor + capital equipment makes the labor worth more. The employer has the capital equipment, the employee does not. The employee is paid MORE than his labor is worth TO HIM sans capital equipment, and the labor the employer receives is worth more to the employer than the compensation he pays to the employee. It's a win-win. No one is being screwed. (And Marx was a fucking idiot).
@successfulbuild
@successfulbuild 11 жыл бұрын
Mesopotamia and Egypt had large centralized states/bureaucratic temples where money originated.Loans may be that way too"Interest-bearing loans, in turn, probably originated in deals between the administrators and merchants who carried, say, the woollen goods produced in temple factories (which in the very earliest period were at least partly charitable enterprises, homes for orphans, refugees or disabled people for instance) and traded them to faraway lands for metal, timber, or lapis lazuli."
@asad5067
@asad5067 10 жыл бұрын
richard d wolff needs an RSA animate. he'd kill it
@DataEntity
@DataEntity 8 жыл бұрын
So the problem that was created by government intervention, should be solved by more government intervention? What about allowing the banks to fail? Governments took on the liability of the banks and now governments are mired in debt, we didn't solve the problem, we just moved the deadline.
@xxxxxx5642
@xxxxxx5642 8 жыл бұрын
+DataEntity He discussed this at 9:50
@Alarbee
@Alarbee 8 жыл бұрын
How about nationalizing the banks?
@DataEntity
@DataEntity 8 жыл бұрын
And absorb the liability? You do know that let's the bankers off the hook, right? If anything is nationalized, it's the savings portion of the bank, allowing the investments to fail per market forces. Possibly only after the bank has been declared bankrupt. This protects the average citizen form liability they didn't sign up to, while retaining it for those who are responsible for the situation.
@freesk8
@freesk8 10 жыл бұрын
Gotta make an important distinction between the free market and crony capitalism. Under the free market, corps get no subsidies. There is no mortgage interest deduction. Big banks are allowed to fail. Crony capitalism is really a partial merger of state and corporate power, something that Mussolini called fascism. And fascism is national socialism, not the free market. We are heading in the direction of this merger between state and corporate power in the US, one little piece of legislation and bail-out at a time. But none of this should be confused with the free market.
@pjamesbda
@pjamesbda 10 жыл бұрын
Every time the light comes on, the free market roaches run back and forth all over the conversation, and I try to stomp on at least a few....it's hopeless, I know, but here goes; Every success (as perverted as the measure of it is in this system) is lauded by you market purist's as "the free market", but every failure of it, is simply ridiculed as "crony capitalism". How convenient it must be, to reject anything that doesn't fit that tidy little model, and embrace anything that does. Would you get real? Please? Cause I for one, am sick of the schizophrenia... The "merger" was there from the get go. There is no division. It is a big and messy system of greed, one up man-ship and usury that is out of control and consuming itself. You can't pick little pieces of it out and say "this is our ideal, if only everything hinged on this principle there would be harmony". There is nothing in serving oneself above all else that is principled! Mussolini meant to merge the people with their work, and with the fruits of that work. That is much closer to a principle. Did it go terribly bad? Of course it did, just like it did with Hitler. Of course, if you claim as your system one built upon the most base instincts mankind has, it's success or longevity is hardly something to trumpet about. The cost of that "success" also has a very nasty looking under belly. One we don't talk about much, huh? Instead, we have "Dictator" in our own image; the iron boot of corporatism.
@freesk8
@freesk8 10 жыл бұрын
pjamesbda I readily admit that the free market system has disadvantages. I am just sick of the free market taking the blame for things like corporate subsidies, bailouts, bribing politicians etc. that are explicitly against free market ideals. This is why we need to make a distinction between crony capitalism and the free market. The two are, in many cases, opposites. To be blind to this distinction is to leave yourself open to misunderstanding and error. So I have a question for you: can you name a criticism of the free market? I'd love to discuss the good ones. I am just sick of discussing straw men.
@pjamesbda
@pjamesbda 10 жыл бұрын
freesk8 Yes, certainly the most obvious is the competition. I'll elaborate if needed.
@Brisherk
@Brisherk 10 жыл бұрын
freesk8 What is the "free" market? Governance and capitalism go hand in hand from the beginning of civilization. Who will enforce property rights, currency, and transactions if not the government? The word "crony" means "friend," so the phrase "crony capitalism" implies that friendship has bought these advantages, not the money itself. I can assure you, it's not all about friendship. Money doesn't care whether it's going against your supposed "free market ideals." Like the Marx quote in the video says, "capital cannot abide a limit." In other words, your "free market," which looks for any advantages it can profit from, has overtaken government, not the other way around. Therefore it seems to me that what you're wishing for is a government that restricts (rather than enhances) the advantages that excess capital affords. Welcome to the club.
@standev1
@standev1 10 жыл бұрын
humanelk If government didn't have power to intervene economically in the first place, there would be no buyers for this service.
@renexener
@renexener 8 жыл бұрын
The last 3-4 minutes are a beautiful and horrific characterization and problematization of the current economic situation. When the gap between the haves and havenots widens, you have to ask yourself in which category you and your children will fall into.
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio 10 жыл бұрын
In fact, most dictionaries agree with Rand's definition of freedom: Merriam-Webster Dictionary: "Definition of FREEDOM 1 : the quality or state of being free: as a : the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action b : liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence c : the quality or state of being exempt or released usually from something onerous freedom from care "
@bigmig4356
@bigmig4356 9 жыл бұрын
I hate anti-capitalism. Give me post-capitalism and you might be up to something.
@demianhaki7598
@demianhaki7598 9 жыл бұрын
Miguel 'Big Mig" Benavides Yeah, I still struggle with this issue myself. I really want to be open minded and so I am very willing to entertain new ideas, new theories, new solutions. But, even though I agree that there are many negative outcomes of capitalism, both inherently and as it is practices right now, I also cannot help but acknowledge that it was capitalism that managed to significantly raise the living standards of millions of people in the last 150 years. So, if someone can offer an idea of how we can keep the good stuff and move to a system that gets rid of the bad stuff, I'm happy to hear it.
@llannerch
@llannerch 8 жыл бұрын
+Miguel 'Big Mig" Benavides get past the labels. Harvey isn't arguing for anti-capitalism, rather for being anti-neoliberalism, the extreme interpretation of capitalism that is predatory, short-termist and re-distributes wealth 'upwards'. Harvey isn't anti-capitalist but much of his entire academic output has tended to emphasise the need to be more conscious of, alert to the inherent contradictions in capitalism. And for all those who think that regulation on finance will inhibit innovation - consider how much innovation might *actually* happen if the mega rich didn't hoard so much capital
@anarchocommunist9154
@anarchocommunist9154 8 жыл бұрын
+Miguel 'Big Mig" Benavides What's the difference? How do you get past capitalism without anti-capitalism?
@anarchocommunist9154
@anarchocommunist9154 8 жыл бұрын
+Russell Todd Harvey's a Marxist. Of course he's anti-capitalist, and that's a good thing.
@anarchocommunist9154
@anarchocommunist9154 8 жыл бұрын
+Demian Haki _"I also cannot help but acknowledge that it was capitalism that managed to significantly raise the living standards of millions of people in the last 150 years."_ Yes, capitalism is better than feudalism, etc., which is acknowledged by Marx and every serious anti-capitalist. But that doesn't mean we can't do better.
@sirfinthetube
@sirfinthetube 10 жыл бұрын
The best argument against communism or any other form of government is that they all have a monopoly on the use of force. Wars and world wide economic depressions are only made possible by government coercion and force. A true free market society exists under voluntary agreements between individuals. Consider how many wars would be waged if the soldiers were free to return home at any time? Politicians could not initiate much offensive action under those conditions. Essentially the soldiers themselves would be voting with their feet as to whether or not the war was worth fighting. They say that today's military is an all volunteer force. That is true to the extent that they voluntarily sign away their individual liberty when they join. After signing up they must obey orders to make war or they will be forced into prison. Marx said, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Marx must use force to take from One so that he can give to Another. A centrally planned economy as envisioned by communists, socialists and dictators will end in slavery, starvation and war. Watch Bolivia
@thomassutton4861
@thomassutton4861 10 жыл бұрын
If you have no coercive apparatus then you have no property, and if you have a volunteer based society without a state and property, that isn't free-market capitalism. That's communism.
@FurryMurry7
@FurryMurry7 10 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sutton "If you have no coercive apparatus then you have no property". Actually, it is VERY MUCH possible to me to own property without me having to INITIATE violence or force on other people. If I point a gun at you and say, "give me your (fill in the blank with whatever item you wish)" and you give it, I have just used coercion on you. It was NOT a voluntary trade. However, if I were to offer you something you want (like money) in exchange for that item (and I didn't use force or threaten to use force) then I did not coerce you because I was not causing any harm to you.
@ryanmarsh3989
@ryanmarsh3989 10 жыл бұрын
FurryMurry7 But property rights must be enforceable. If there was nothing to stop me, I could just go around declaring that your belongings are mine. Some socially agreed on mechanisms for exclusion or entitlement must be in place to support property rights.
@FurryMurry7
@FurryMurry7 10 жыл бұрын
Ryan Marsh I completely agree with you! =D And, fortunately, these "socially agreed on mechanisms" already exist. It's called "commonlaw". In a nutshell, commonlaw is basically laws (or rules) that exist outside of government. These are laws that everyone knows and understands. "Common Knowledge", if you will. To illustrate: imagine I went to a restaurant, ordered a turkey sandwich, ate it, and refused to pay, saying "well i never signed uh contract that said ah promise 2 pay for muh food." LOLZ But seriously, everyone would know that what I'm doing is wrong, even if we were living in a stateless society. This is commonlaw at work. And EVEN IF the fear of jail were taken out of the equation, I would still have a damn good reason to pay my bill. I need a job. I need an apartment. I need money (loans, credit cards, etc.). And with all of those things, someone is going to check on my TRUSTWORTHINESS. (another way of saying trustworthiness is "credit"). When word gets out that I keep ripping off restaurants, a lot of people are not going to want to interact with me. Restaurants won't want to serve me. Employers won't want to hire me (for the good jobs, at least. Maybe I could be a dishwasher making a not-enough-to-live-on wage). Banks and finance companies won't want to lend me money (which I will desperately need, since I can't get a good job). And the list of this kind of "economic ostracism" goes on and on for me. In short, we could say that if I turn to a life of ripping people off, my life will turn into a living hell. The best medicine is prevention, not cure. The fear of such economic ostracism is usually quite enough for people to respect property rights.
@sirfinthetube
@sirfinthetube 10 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sutton please visit mises.org
@AedanHamrock
@AedanHamrock 10 жыл бұрын
Care to elaborate on that?
@successfulbuild
@successfulbuild 11 жыл бұрын
Notes Graber: "Credit and debt comes first, then coinage emerges thousands of years later and then, when you do find “I’ll give you twenty chickens for that cow” type of barter systems, it’s usually when there used to be cash markets, but for some reason - as in Russia, for example, in 1998 - the currency collapses or disappears." So hundreds of societies existed before the creation of money and they used debt/credit transaction. This is one (of many) things Rothbard/Austrians get wrong.
@fr.j.steelecsc2150
@fr.j.steelecsc2150 10 жыл бұрын
... because the Soviet Union was sooo much better!
@estellemariexo
@estellemariexo 3 жыл бұрын
Seven years later but here we go... That's not what he means and you know that. It's amazing to me that some people see this and think "maybe we should make changes, both big and small, to our economy" while others hear "we need to abolish private ownership and dismantle the competitive market"
@ckcost8714
@ckcost8714 8 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha...Academics are "seriously involved in the world..." give me a break! The David Harvey types are not seriously involved in anything based in reality. Take your own advice...
@chagoriver7159
@chagoriver7159 7 жыл бұрын
2:27 ay curramba? i think they meant caramba!
@marcusp905
@marcusp905 5 жыл бұрын
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