DO NOT FORGET MY NAME!

+Otaking Mikohani I'm Brian of Nazareth.

I'm Brian and so's my wife!

I'M THE WITCH! YOU'RE THE WORLD!

XD

I wouldn't call that defending the movie, just pointing how dumb the producers were. Thanks for sharing.

There is actually more information about the films production courtisey of SonictheShapeshifter a.k.a. LadyFoxling who met the screenwriter for the film. she stated the following "I actually met the screenwriter for this movie and he's a really cool guy. He talked to me about what went into the making of this, and he wanted to add darker elements to the plot and explained a lot of things about it that didn't make it to the final cut (including why the fairies were following Rudolph everywhere and cared about specifically him--they were his guardians and gave him the light in his nose, and Stormella was initially rejected by Santa in favor of Mrs. Claus, causing a triangle conflict and also explaining why she had a cold heart, among other things!) He explained to me that the reason why Santa in this version of the story was supportive of Rudolph is because he didn't like how Santa was only nice to Rudolph after Rudolph became of use to him in the claymation, so he wanted Santa to be a character who genuinely cared about people in this cartoon--which I think makes sense because we're talking about a big fat guy who likes to deliver toys to kids all over the world for no profit. I think that it's a bit ignorant to suggest that the cast of the movie should be condemned for not all looking identical to each other, not just for political correct reasons, but because in real life people are racially diverse and come in all shapes and sizes and STILL people are actively bullied. They don't all need to be clones for one person in particular to stand out and be picked on for it. I think it was actually really better of them to color and draw the characters in different ethnicities because they could have been lazier and literally copied the animation cels so that every character was literally identical. Because it took more effort to do what they did I don't think they should be condemned for it; also, it probably did make some minority people happy. Christmas movies are in general all white for cast; political correctness aside, isn't it okay for there to be a Rudolph tale where there are some other races present? Santa isn't only delivering toys to white kids after all according to how we perceive his mythos. One last thing I want to point out before watching other videos is, "Ruddy" was not a typo, it was an insult. Rudolph's nickname in the film was "Rudy" so calling him "Ruddy" was an insult to him; also, it just happens to have red-in-the-face for a definition, it's an actual word. (And in Britain it has the same connotation as "bloody" so it's just a straight-up insult in general). For what it is it certainly could have been better. but it did do a lot of things enjoyably." "The problem was corporate interference. Be glad that Rudolph didn't look like a carebear; the screenwriter pushed hard for Rudolph to look as good as he did, the animation crew cut corners, and a lot of the darker undertones the guy wanted to include to make the story more compelling got vetoed by the executives who wanted the final product to be as inoffensive as possible" That is sad. This could have been a decent film but that is what happens when a direct to video company(rather than a risk taker like Disney) that sells animation as a cheap kids babysitter makes your film.

I wasn't expecting to find interesting and insightful facts about the making of this movie in the comments section of a KZfaq video review, of all places, but in this case I'm glad that I did. Suddenly I feel really bad for the people who worked on this movie and wanted it to be better than what we got but were denied the opportunity to make it so.

@@blapis-blazuli I completey agree with your statement and yes I do feel sorry for the writer behind this film.

@@noahbossier1131 that all goes to show just how much effort really goes into things that you might not think of and even if the final product ends up not going over very well. there was definitely alot of INTENT for symbolism and significance even if alot of it ended up on the cutting room floor. as a yet-unpublished amateur writer myself, i can definitely appreciate that.

The thing is, Rudolph had already saved her life. They could have used that as an epiphany moment for her to decide to turn nicer voluntarily, especially if they added some dialogue to actually justify her reasoning for the change. Sure, it may have felt forced and unrealistic, but that’s par for the course for Christmas specials, and it’s still a lot better than a wish coming out of nowhere and basically brainwashing her. Of course, her voluntarily turning nice would be dependent on the quality of the writing involved, so maybe they just decided that was too much work.

@@erickpoorbaugh6728 supposedly the movie had stornella as Santa's X as a concept. So maybe mix that with voluntary nice amd maybe have her calm down the storm as much as she can to the pij twhere sanra and his deer wouldn't freeze to death or something and santa says thanks and apologizes or ANYTHING other than wish for niceness

@@erickpoorbaugh6728 Yes, they had a perfect opportunity for Stormella to have a change of heart after Rudolph saves her, but instead they use a wish to force a change on her, which totally undermines the story's whole theme of accepting people for who they are. Really dumb.

Like a female Grinch?

Good times needs to make a prequel about her.

That sounds like a Reddit story

Well time for a prequel

Honestly her actions in this movie were understandable. If someone came to my property, wrecked my lawn decorations and left without even apologizing for it, I’d probably be pissed off too.

I thought so too since, Santa Claus and Rudolph's dad both come off a hell of a lot better than they came off in Rankin & Bass movie. I feel like this one had some elements that didn't work (the annoying sprites and the bad characters whose irritation was rational rather than based on evilness). But it kind of made up for it by having Rudolph's struggles come off as realistic and you feel bad for him, but they fact that he had support from his dad and Santa seems like a really positive aspect of the movie since Rudolph would look up to both.

Kolbatsu well that’s just prime

nice person ≠ good character Donner being a dick to his son added conflict to the story, wich is sorely lacking in the Good Times version. yeah he got laughed at in that one scene in school, and that one song where everyone calls him a weirdo to wich he seems oblivious, but overall the "bullying" was very chill, and him being hated by the girl's boyfriend and getting disqualified from the race is totally his fault and not the others being dicks to him (it's bullshit that the guy who was obviously cheating won anyway, but still). no one seems to really hate Rudolph, wich weakens the all point of the story, while the Rankin Bass special made you feel for the guy, and thus made for a more satisfying resolution at the end. also Donner was a consistant character, while Blitzen just starts off embarassed by Rudolph, making you think they're gonna do the "daddy issues" story again, but then they immediately pull a 180, when the mother tells him that there's nothing wrong with Ruldolph, making the previous scene establishing him to be not proud of his son, completely useless now, without even adding water.

While I agree Santa in this movie was better, I feel like Donner was a bit more interesting. Donner had the right idea, but his methods just weren't very good. At least he didn't call Rudolph's nose "an accident" like Blitzen did. He even feels bad for trying to hide Rudolph's nose and even goes out into the wild to find his son and bring him home, that's dedication for ya.

Kolbatsu then what’s in your wallet if this is the case I’m joking xd

+girlfoxgirl (wheezy laugh)

MY GOD!

Now we´re asking the real questions

@AT Productions why

neat one

Well......I don't know what they expected.......

On a percentage basis relative to its cost, even Disney's The Black Cauldron didn't tank that badly, and that was the film that almost killed Disney Animation.

Thank you for that😅 I’m terrible at maths

@@nialldempsey7742 When you make The Black Cauldron look more profitable, you know you messed up.

@@MovieFan1912 Yeah. But at least The Black Cauldron gained a considerable cult following, unlike this piece of crap.

Because Phelous is actually entertaining.

now ten times more!

And Quest for Camelot. I know it is not the best film but even that is a masterpiece compared to this.

The Prince of Egypt and Mulan and the RUGRATS movie is the best movies ever

...did it win tho?

Why is it that it was released to theaters?! Looks like something that could be straight to video... the cheap animation... the childish music... the fanfiction-ish plot... Antz was also released on that month so it most likely got this movie overshadowed.

A.N. Scruggs “the prince of Egypt and Mulan and Rugrats” was the greatest cross over ever before infinity war

This movie makes me want to hunt down Deers and feed them to my dogs... Kkkk

Of course he’s the worst! Santa never punished anyone who did something wrong and Stormella was literally the only person who tried to distribute punishment for any wrongdoing. Disobeying someone’s wishes even if they seem ridiculous is still wrong no matter what and so is property damage and all forms of cheating. Rudolph clearly made his nose go off on purpose and then tried to pretend it was unintentional.

If a child truly got something out of it, I'd like to think the production team thought it was worth it. :)

That's a fine way to rationalize it! I always stuck with Slylie's advice on "It could always be worse". Because if you say it like that, you're basically admitting that you're thankful that it's not as bad as others have it. That's some really humble stuff.

I liked it as a kid too! While this is no reason to cut corners or half-arse anything, it doesn't have to be amazing quality for kids to enjoy it, and that's okay.

I wouldn't call his nose a "mistake" it's not like he asked for it or anything, it's more off laugh at yourself

So......out of THE ENTIRE MOVIE.....they got one or two scenes right

Yeah, that definitely is the inverse of an Air Bud situation.

+GunvorPlays Nostalgia is like Playing Russian roulette.

+GunvorPlays I know right! I remember got this on video for Christmas when I was 8 years old. Never thought it was amazing, but I enjoyed it and watched it hundreds of times during the holidays. I might still have it somewhere in my old nostalgia box, I'll have to check...

I enjoyed The Christmas Tree as a child...holy crap I want a time machine to fix that.

Same here! I loved it!

Same. I liked both this and the Rankin Bass version back in the day. I gotta say though, the character designs are kinda cute imo.

Reminds me of 'The Never Ending Story 2" for some reason.

So basically, the Crystal Tokyo Conundrum?

Evil people are a detriment to society as a whole, they spread misery among others and get enjoyment out of it. How is it "evil" to _fix_ them? Isn't that part of what punishment is supposed to do, in a more indirect way? Even if she was miserable as a result, how is that not justified in the face of what she would inevitably do, and probably already has done, to others, with little to no _real_ provocation? (As Phelous pointed out, she would have likely caused that storm even if random wildlife that didn't even know about the bridge ban and had nothing to do with the christmas village had crossed the bridge instead of those christmas reindeer.) Additionally, did she seem miserable to you after she was changed? She immediately, happily, showered her penguin butler in smooches after finally realizing that he's cute/finally being able to get enjoyment out of his cuteness. Doesn't seem like a miserable existence to me. This concept of being overly nice to bad people, and condemning acts of retribution or even reparation, has to _stop._ It's causing much more damage, to much more undeserving targets, than it prevents.

What the heck are you talking about theuncalled for.not only is it clear the original commenter was joking, but just because someone is bad doesn't mean they have no rights.

@Simple Weirdo Go drink some juice, Jesus.

+cfruge444 Wait. When did Robot Chicken give Rudolph a laser nose???

+Incidentally, I think Johnny Bravo might have done that joke first.

There all gonna laugh at you

Cool.

I would love to watch that movie.

I mean, at least it seemed a bit better than the 1998 release since the original 1964 special was actually good.

Winerbolt was a better villain.

What’s the point in saying‘Retcon’ *shudders* if they had no CHOICE but to debate him cuz the models were destroyed?

Actually, in the storybook, Stormella falls to her death.

I dunno, Ms. Prancer is kinda hot, too.

Phelous just got ACTUALLY'ED!

Wait isn’t he a reindeer?

@@gracekim25 Yes, but any newborn fawn squeaks once they're out of the womb but over time it turns into a bleat.

@@troin3925 so are baby reindeer fawns too?😅

@@gracekim25 Uh, yeah

I HATE THE OLD VERSION IN 1964

Good use of previous reviews

+finalunusedname shut up dundee.

+finalunusedname God damn it, Nappa

This comment is pure f*cking gold.

finalunusedname Rudolph: Oh my Gosh! Beauty's father: Golly Gosh! King Lion: MAH GOD!

I have one of them, too. He actually works perfectly...Which is unfortunate because he emits the most ear-raping rendition of his theme song that you will *ever* hear.

@@graphitetailgrace3870 you gotta film that thing murdering your ears, man

He was robot Santa?!

+EquesTron (formerly FFF1987) Don't forget Santa in the Spongebob special

+Masdaw Galshini Yep. He was Robot Santa in the first Futurama X-Mas special. He was replaced by John DiMaggio in the second one, probably due to schedule conflicts.

+Mathieu Leader I stand corrected. Make that four times. Thanks! :)

The Year Without a Santa Claus was so bad.

That was one of the more realistic parts of the movie, unfortunately. Some people are needless are assholes.

A "Anna" wish.

I saw the Snow Queen 2012 movie. It makes Frozen feel worse after it took what that movie had before it. There was troll in movie who can turn into a polar bear to help his new allies when the rock trolls in Frozen would make fun throwing and rolling objects.

@@fenrir-art4742 mate Frozen was a LOOSE adaptation of the snow Queen. Look things up, you have the INTERNET, dummy🤦‍♀️ people like you who accuse people of stealing without research annoy me

@@fenrir-art4742 also how do you people not know The snow Queen is the inspiration and the very thing it loosely adapted 🤦‍♀️everyone should know

Doesn’t make it right to alter someone’s personality, he could’ve just wished for Stormella to no longer bother the North Pole

"Never Ending Story 2," any-one?

@@andrewkim9848 So she can bother someone else and spread misery amongst other populations or among her own employees? What you have to understand is that bad people are bad (I know how obvious that sounds, dammit!). They do bad things. If they weren't, and if they didn't, they wouldn't be bad people. They always find ways to cause trouble. What's really _lost_ by making a person not-bad? And in comparison to that... what is gained in return?

Ok I get it, but I’m just asking about the ethnically questionable part of it. And I’m also saying it’s a shit way to reform her. This is literally a situation where talking to her and convincing her to not be evil would make sense, and they don’t do that. Maybe have her and Santa talk things through and reach a deal that would leave both sides satisfied, maybe just wish for her to not bother anyone in general? What is it about wishing her good that is supposedly better over these solutions I presented?

@@andrewkim9848 Guaranteed effectiveness, guaranteed success, minimal suffering. By wishing her nice, she is now nice, deep down. Therefore, she is now happy when she can do good things, and will naturally avoid doing bad things without a magical wish blocking her from doing so even when she wants to. She will never even _want_ to do bad. By being converted to good, not only _is_ she likely to be a happier person overall, but she also now _deserves_ it for being a good person. By trying a different solution, there would be a risk of an inferior end result, a possibility of loopholes to exploit later by the angry and still-malicious ice witch, or possibly even deadly side effects as the wish unintentionally prevents her from even talking to people to, say, buy food for example. You're trying to use soft manipulation to achieve the same result, and if that doesn't work, try to cage the problem instead of burning it out at the root. Also, and this is important, I was not looking at alternate solutions in the initial response. I was analyzing only the solution that was already there, because to me it is good enough. So this is a different discussion than the one I was "signing up for", so to speak.

***** I guess there had to be something to make him an outcast but at the same time it had to be something that could save the day and make them like him. Thinking about it not sure it's a great message to send to kids but I guess when it was made that's what they wanted. :)

Being different can always make people make fun of you or even hate you and it does not matter if its something big or something small that should not matter at all.

CyberLance26 I know, just seems like an odd choice and as the video points out the story kind of sends a bad message, mainly that anyone who is different is a freak unless you need them then they're cool. :)

Chris McWilliams Well thats how it usually is in stuff where somebody gets hated on for being different that they always must do something big like saving somebodys life for example to be accepted instead of just being themselves and yea that kinda gives of a bad message in a way. But being accepted only for being yourself maybe would not make very interesting or exciting storys.

CyberLance26 Granted. It's still not a very good message. :) A lot of older stuff like that tends to have messages we would probably think twice about if they were written now.

A _lot_ of American Christmas productions do this. I understand that kids in the U.S. might be more familiar with red deer or mule deer, but they aren't reindeer just because you say so!

Add to the fact that both genders have antlers and the males loose their antlers in the winter. Puts this movie in a whole new light.

To be fair, the original stopmotion one made the same mistake.

Santa's Reindeer are either girls or geldings :)

cfruge444 I think reindeer can be adorable! I have a feeling that they didn't know how to do a glowing red nose with reindeer because their noses blend into the rest of their face while white tail deer have these sort of button noses.

Funny thing you mentioned antlers, because reindeer are the only deer were both sexes have antlers, however they would eventually shed them off to grow new ones, the males actually shed them off around Christmas time, and the females keep them at that time to protect their young. So all of santa's are ether all female, or I guess you can call it Santas Magic.

Brandon Lyon Well, like I said, the American adaptations of most things with Santa's reindeer don't have what you could _actually_ call reindeer for some reason. So, it's less that they're all female and more that Santa has the wrong kind of deer for his climate.

I was taught that penguins live in the south pole instead of the north pole as far back as at least KINDERGARTEN! So anyone down here can shove that "it's for kids," bullshit straight back up their ass!

Maybe the butler is originally from the antarctic regions, and was flown in by Stormella? That, or they just didn't know or care. Still, he's the only penguin in the movie, right? So it's plausible, right?

Mmmm maybe it’s because the red nose would be hard to do on an actual reindeer

Pretty much the same thing happened to me! This was my first exposure to this movie.

+Assiman it's all about perspective: on one hand, the market was sadly weak. On the other hand, good animation companies had higher goasl than straight to vhs

Really? My thrift store seems to be the place where copies of Bridesmaids and the book version of What to Expect When Expecting go.

Stormella wasn’t even really evil to begin with! She just seemed so cold and distant because everyone kept calling her “mean” and talking smack about her, her property was destroyed and she wasn’t allowed to get any compensation for it or even justice, and she never tortured anyone for fun, and she always kept her word. I mean yeah she may have kept Zoey captive but look at the size of her prison! There’s a cave I the background that looks rather deep, Zoey is inside where it is nice and warm, and she has full Mobility inside her prison. Stormella even explains what Zoey did wrong and then doesn’t do anything else to her! Zoey walked across that bridge on her free will and wasn’t tricked into doing it either unlike other movies where someone ends up doing something wrong. Scar tricked Simba into luring Mufasa to his death, Maleficent entranced Aurora to touch the spindle on the spinning wheel, and Lady Tremaine actually uses words to get her daughters to rip apart Cinderella’s dress. Stormella did nothing shady and did explain that there would be consequences if anyone in town had used the bridge as a result of her being denied the chance to get justice for her property damages and punish those who were responsible for it. She had every right to deny usage of the bridge as t was literally the only way she could make sure no one damaged any more of her property.

It's swollen with bioluminescent cells and bioluminescent chemical-fuel to power the light.

Well @koopaKontroller in the original short in 1948 was round. And a round red nose that glows would produce more light instead of a nose shaped nose.

Headcanon: Rudolph's nose was caused by a freak incident regarding a powerful solar storm. As long as his parents were anywhere close to the north _magnetic_ pole, that could've really messed him up. Hid DNA would be no match for ionized solar particles. One flaw: how could it have mutated Rudolph but not his parents?

To be honest, a reindeer’s nose shouldn’t even be shaped like ANY of the reindeer noses in cartoons :D since their noses are more similar to horses’ muzzles

Wait🤔 the sing never mentions a ROUND shiny nose😅

I think the "Red Nose" film that Phelous covered in Christmas 2021 might be the closest thing we'd ever get to a Dingo Pictures adaptation of Rudolph. Except it's so much slower in pace that it makes me think that "Red Nose" film was the result of both GoodTimes Rudolph adaptations having been infected by African trypanosomiasis (a.k.a. the sleeping sickness). In this case, GoodTimes' version of Rudolph has died of it, and now the North Pole has to go under quarantine.

Rudolph voice: *Dorks*

The fact her IMDB profile picture was Trixie makes this even funnier

@jbiehlable that film is still pretty mediocre, another film that also gets this right with female reindeer having antlers is “The Flight before Christmas” or “Niko for the stars” if your in Europe, it’s also a bit more scientifically accurate with the reindeer living in ice forest instead of a frozen ice waste land. Also it does mention most baby reindeer are born in spring (since the film is about Niko a young reindeer whose father is in Santa’s flying forces but he doesn’t know who he was since his father didn’t know Niko would be born that next spring) from what I heard the film is alright, and it’s also a film from Europe

@jbiehlable yea

@jbiehlable eh idk, I just stick the rankinbas film

EVERY SINGLE CHRISTMAS MOVIE PRETENDS REINDEER ARE RED DEER! AAAAAAAAH!

oh do they?

+ThePreciseClimber Oh I remember that one too! That I actually had on VHS!

+Wrath's Attack Really?! WTF is up with GTE doing two Rudolph movies?! I guess it fits their MO. Taking some previously established children's character (Alice, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty & the Beast or in this case Rudolph) and making an easy cash in film about them so that they don't have to come up with anything original.

Jesus.... Don't remind me about that... thing.

1Kenny30 Too late, Phelous already reviewed that one as well! LoL

When I was watching this movie on a website, he didn’t say “mega”.

@@BigBadBuzzard And once again I am... not exactly _forced,_ but motivated by external forces to explain a joke... *sigh* It seems that one particular elf shares a voice actor with "Megagreen" (the version of Mega Man from Captain N: The Game Master). Megagreen was infamous for his annoying habit of saying "mega" at least three times every sentence (this may or may not be slight exaggeration). Phelous inserted the "mega"s to make fun of that.

🤣wow

+elinfini 10 million budget

to make their forgettable soundtrack memorable instead of spending more money on improving the animation. Making this scene even worse is the laziness of the animation displayed in the scene. With lips that do not syinc and the tape used to glue together the backgrounds.

I actually liked the first Alpha and Omega, but the sequels do suck, I will give you that

Oh boy😅

Me too

+Armin Reindl Same here and I must confess until I saw this review I thought the song "Simply having a wonderful Christmas time" was originally from this movie. So for years I thought "well that movie gave us something" then I realized it wasn't from this film and I was like "..........oh"

+botOxymoron I originally thought it was a made for TV movie given how cheap and not very good it was.

i remember when i owned this movie on video.

@@maldon3659 me too I used to have it on tape

I watched it in kindergarten over a decade ago, and I have been thinking about it and trying to find it since.

Same

yup that's exactly how it was for me

Shanna Edenia We all had good memories of this when we were kids... Too bad it sucks now that we're adults... And it's even worse when you realize that this was released in theaters.

Gotta start somewhere.

"They're shooting at me, I must have been expected!" :P

Also instead of eating cookies he eats the plate they're on

He should make it happen this December

I feel the exact same way. Just because someone is popular or can sing well, doesn't mean they can act.

The Mario Bros. movie is coming to mind.

It really got worse after the release and success of the first shrek film.

CaptainJZH was it computer animated

I watched this when I was at Kindergarden for the first time. It's one of my earliest memories.

Or anyone else.

I think the movie got its money back from the home release. I know plenty who owned this along with the RB ver.

Indeed The fox was going to orgionally be voiced by Scott Mcneill(he even recorded most of his lines) but goodtimes replaced him with Idle.

Makes sense

From what I've heard at least, his backstory leads to him nowadays suffering from something that serves as an allegory to Alzheimers.

nerdsman567 I've heard that he pretty much _is_ a tragic Shakespearean villain these days- never seen the show so I don't know that much about him, but what I've heard is pretty tragic.

+nerdman567 That's because Ice King kind of is.

AT Productions she’s not tragic though

N P She almost kills her sister by accident and is forced into hiding away from the world for most of her life by her parents and finally is forced to take on responsibilities she’s not ready for when they die unexpectedly. That’s pretty tragic

Really? "The Island of Misfit Toys" being called "Rudolph 2" was crazy enough!

@@Gilby1385 wrong video 😂

It's a rule against being _different._ Because idiots are terrified of anything that strays even slightly from the norm.

Not really a rule.

I think that was the movie's attempt at a joke.

um probally to stop cheating...

+Clay3613 wanting money in exchange of low effort is not weird

+alucardyoici No. It's just infuriating and depressing to see how a dream from a few people, can be snuffed out and tainted by the hands of others. Or at least, that's pretty much what it's like with the triple A gaming market. >sigh< God knows what'll happen if the movie industry starts stooping to as big of lows as the game industry has.

retrogamelover2012 sorry want me to play violin? oh no actor and game developper don't want to wait 10 years to get a paycheck

***** Ah blow me! I'd rather have a reality, where these sorts of media are treated with respect, rather than have them essentially be so bland, repetitive, insulting and just out-right STOCK, that only the dimmest of simpletons would find something substantial in them, 'cause they're such GOOD little neophobic sheep who don't want change, would treat anything new by clubbing it into dust, and due to their unhealthy amount of consumerism, essentially make the biggest of corporate scumbags the "Mafioso" of the entire god damn media industry!! Why don't you put THAT in your pipe and smoke it???

And Whoopi Goldberg. It happens so often, you forget how funny they really are.

And that one is a follow up to the RB special

I heard about it with Phelous' review... hold me ;_;

+Leo Corbett late 80s were the infancy of cgi

+Harold P. Penisman Hey Harold you got any free drugs I am gonna need it to get through this review.

+Rin Aldrin We all do, Rin. We all do.

+Nintendo Kid tell me it's foodfight quality CG

+ColeVecsion It's worse. However they managed to get Richard Dreyfuss, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rick Moranis on board.

+Nintendo Kid He has. It's on his website and probably will be posted on KZfaq soon.

***** oh...oh dear...allright, time to go the phelous's website, i need to see this abomination for myself

It'd be funny if after the wish for her to be nice, nothing would change.