Rugby's GREATEST XV of ALL TIME

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Andrew Forde

Andrew Forde

5 жыл бұрын

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@AndrewDavidForde
@AndrewDavidForde 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re not a fan of my choices, I’ve made a more updated one for the professional era here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbOkrbp5tJysdmw.html
@dhirenfernando8159
@dhirenfernando8159 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that link says the video is not available?
@alfiebibby796
@alfiebibby796 3 жыл бұрын
ye the video is unavailable
@alfiebibby796
@alfiebibby796 3 жыл бұрын
also you say professional era but you can not leave gareth edwards out of that 9 spot he is the best by miles
@AndrewDavidForde
@AndrewDavidForde 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfiebibby796 But it's on the professional era?
@alfiebibby796
@alfiebibby796 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDavidForde ok ye why is your new vid unavailable?
@mikedennehy2454
@mikedennehy2454 5 жыл бұрын
And the best rugby commentator of all time - Bill McLaren RIP.
@edwardstroud8245
@edwardstroud8245 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Dennehy Cliff Morgan for me :-)
@theephraimite
@theephraimite 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite English speaking commentator: Greg Nisbett.
@JBStefan
@JBStefan 3 жыл бұрын
Hugh Bladen
@ianor2304
@ianor2304 3 жыл бұрын
“Mehrtens with the kick” from Jonah Lomu rugby on ps one anyone?
@kelvinlewis4065
@kelvinlewis4065 3 жыл бұрын
Hes a big man ..14 stone of sheer enjoyment !!
@Rupert_Common
@Rupert_Common 4 жыл бұрын
for some reason i got all sentimental watching this. When you play a sport as a little kid, it just remains in your heart.
@Anonymous-rw9ie
@Anonymous-rw9ie 5 жыл бұрын
Francois Pienaar wasn't even the best South African flank in his days, let alone the best number 6 of all time. He was in the team due to his great leadership, not because of his abilities. Similar to John Smit keeping Bismarck du Plessis out the side. Players shouldn't be picked into this side due to nostalgic reasons, but how good they actually were. I would personally replace a few of them, however you got some spot on. I am South African by the way.
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji 5 жыл бұрын
Bismark kept Bismark out of the side, because Bismark might have been a better player but he wasn't a better hooker. (If this confuses you, just imagine Heinrich Brussow on the wing - great in general play but falling short of his 'wing' duties). He also was renowned for being a self centred egotistical player and both PdV and HM had trouble with him. How many tantrums did he throw when he was substituted, refusing to leave the field or standing next to the touchline in line with the play? When we lost to Japan, his (among others) failure to follow the game plan, preferring to take matters into his / their own hands was given as part of the reason. South Africans love him because of his abrasive aggressive nature but truth be told, him and his brother cost us far more than they gave us. Sad but true.
@Anonymous-rw9ie
@Anonymous-rw9ie 5 жыл бұрын
@@Karma-qt4ji But then we are having a smilier situation at Hooker now then? Marx might be a great player but can't even throw a ball in straight which inevitably costs his teams big matches. However, the Bismarck comment was only to give an example of how better players might be sidelined due to the fact that the captain, who is an incredible leader, just happens to be taking their place. Which, going back to the video, is why I am fully against Pienaar being included.
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji 5 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-rw9ie I agree with you on Pienaar. Re Bismark, I don't even rate him as the best hooker SA ever had, let alone the world. Think Uli Schmidt, John Smit (2003-2007 specifically but not exclusively), Chris Rossouw (the unheard of Transvaal replacement who ended up finishing the 1995 RWC when Dalton was dropped), Lucas von Biljon and Malcolm Marx, just to name a few. Marx is a little off at the moment, but he is a class player who leaves everything on the field for his team mates, not himself. That's the difference. To excel in a team, you need to see yourself as a part of that team and Bismark never did.
@Anonymous-rw9ie
@Anonymous-rw9ie 5 жыл бұрын
@@Karma-qt4ji Yea Bismarck probably isn't our best ever hooker, however, post 2007 World Cup, the number 2 jersey should have been his regarding ability, however having John Smit's leadership on the field was a big need which is why it was good that Smit did start instead. Especially during 2009's big year.
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Pienaar was the weakest choice. But these teams always are a bit of a lottery. I thought all but one player having played in the professional era was a bigger weakness. But every player here is a true great (of recent years).
@timtom1971
@timtom1971 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic players! For me, Michael Jones and Victor Matfield play. Also shouts out for Lawrence Dallaglio at 8, and Nonu at 12! Many thanks for the compilation. Great team 👍🏻
@simonhill1590
@simonhill1590 3 жыл бұрын
I had Dallaglio at 8 too even though Zinny was my favourite player growing up.
@kelvinlewis4065
@kelvinlewis4065 3 жыл бұрын
Barry John was the true GOAT Because he was amature ...No drugs ,,little training and changed and invented and developed the way his position was played for the rest of the world and retired at 27 years .He was a game changer for his Era .
@stephenofmilford1216
@stephenofmilford1216 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, a freak - as Gary Sobers and Don Bradman were to cricket. but Gareth Edwards = GOAT
@brianhall3254
@brianhall3254 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jayboyes3806
@jayboyes3806 Жыл бұрын
Agree - Barry John was the best 5/8 by 25% - and I'm an Aussie but I have to agree. Next comes Phil Bennet. Brilliant. The Ella for his creative genius behind an ordinary pack. But Dan carter was in the top 10 - probably.
@kelvinlewis4065
@kelvinlewis4065 Жыл бұрын
@@jayboyes3806 Thank you Jay for a very honest reply .
@uwanttono4012
@uwanttono4012 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenofmilford1216 Agreed! IMHO, Gareth Edwards was the greatest rugby player EVER irrespective of position. A joy to behold!!
@andrewlowe1614
@andrewlowe1614 3 жыл бұрын
How great was Lomu. You could find 3 or 4 great choices for every other position but no one would leave lomu out of a greatest 15
@HarisKhan-us1tb
@HarisKhan-us1tb 3 жыл бұрын
Also McCaw
@Tom-yl9kx
@Tom-yl9kx 3 жыл бұрын
No one is replacing BOD!! GOAT 🐐
@oliveryoung2260
@oliveryoung2260 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarisKhan-us1tb and Dan Carter
@baliksupper6043
@baliksupper6043 2 жыл бұрын
@@oliveryoung2260 💯
@JTM1809
@JTM1809 2 жыл бұрын
Os du Randt, Richie McCaw, Daniel Carter. Those are the non-negotiables for me. Lomu was phenomenal, and was rugby’s first global superstar (becoming literally the face of the game), but I’d pick Habana over Lomu by a hair’s breadth.
@JMac_96
@JMac_96 5 жыл бұрын
Always going to be hard leaving out other greats but this an amazing XV. Good stuff
@richardredmond1463
@richardredmond1463 Жыл бұрын
Glad you put Philip Sella (France) in there at centre. What a player.
@localmo88
@localmo88 4 жыл бұрын
And let the arguments begin!
@damianatkins9363
@damianatkins9363 5 жыл бұрын
Victor Matfield Best Lock in terms of Lineouts and general Play ever
@jesseking7668
@jesseking7668 4 жыл бұрын
John eales was by far the greatest ever lock. Matfield was south Africa's best ever but not as good as eales was. Martin Johnson im not convinced he takes the other spot though.
@nzsoulman
@nzsoulman 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesseking7668 eales was special. Currently though. The all blacks, springbok, English and Welsh have excellent locks with potential to be considered all time. It is length of time at the top which determines all time status
@MKRM27
@MKRM27 4 жыл бұрын
Damian Atkins Disagree
@nzsoulman
@nzsoulman 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching his highlights and definitely awesome in the air but around the field Rhetalick is much better
@aidannichol1812
@aidannichol1812 3 жыл бұрын
In the air yes but for general play I’d go with Collin meads
@allenstroebel1164
@allenstroebel1164 5 жыл бұрын
This list is basically the best captains... not necessarily the best players
@mosreloaded
@mosreloaded 5 жыл бұрын
yes you right. One or two i will keep there .
@fredkelly6953
@fredkelly6953 5 жыл бұрын
True, Matt Damon should not be on this list.
@mosreloaded
@mosreloaded 5 жыл бұрын
@@fredkelly6953 im south african and agree..was good player good captain..but not the best 6 many more better than him.
@davedave5128
@davedave5128 5 жыл бұрын
It’s not far off though mate. Personally, I think there are better blind sides around today the Peinaar and I’d have had Cullen over Blanco but they’re all magnificent players.
@danielebowman
@danielebowman 5 жыл бұрын
@@davedave5128 Richard Hill is probably the best flanker of all time.
@jeremyventer2238
@jeremyventer2238 4 жыл бұрын
This is so difficult to do. Respect for even trying. Jpr Williams, Danie Gerber,Tim Horan, Fourie du preez, Andy Irvine, Jerry Collins, Ian Jones, etc. W
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 3 жыл бұрын
JPR ..... yesssssssssssssss.
@interestedbystander196
@interestedbystander196 3 жыл бұрын
Reasonable list, especially that lethal Sella-BOD midfield. I do have a few queries/suggestions: Not sure about Pienaar at flanker. Fine player and excellent captain, but not even the best SA flanker, never mind being in the best ever XV. I'd plump for Richard Hill (Eng) here. For the #9 jersey, it is Joost all the way for me. Gareth was sensational, but JvdW was to scrumhalfs what Jonah was to wingers. Hard to argue with a Johnson-Eales engine room, but got to have looked hard at Big Vic before discarding him. I think Matfield had the edge on Johnson, so I'd have him with Eales, and Jonno on the bench. Now we come to my biggest concern: Campese?! Seriously?!! The two wing berths are Jonah Lomu and Brian Habana. Campese doesn't even make the top five wingers (think Doug Howlett, Shane Williams, Rory Underwood, Ieuan Evans, etc.) Here's my all-time team: 1. Os du Randt 2. Sean Fitzpatrick 3. Jason Leonard 4. Victor Matfield 5. John Eales 6. Richard Hill 7. Richie McCaw 8. Zinzan Brook 9. Joost van der Westhuizen 10. Dan Carter 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Philippe Sella 13. Brian O'Driscoll 14. Bryan Habana 15. Serge Blanco Bench: 16. Richard Loe 17. John Smit 18. Martin Johnson 19. Michael Jones 20. Sergio Parisse 21. Gareth Edwards _OR_ Agustin Pichot 22. Owen Farrell (covers 10 or centres) 23. Christian Cullen (covers FB or wings)
@madebymonkeys5641
@madebymonkeys5641 3 жыл бұрын
I like it. BUT.... You have not even considered Johnny Wilkinson? Best kick both out of hand and in terms of points. Forwards could not use his channel to build field position coz he would stop them flat, very smart and run systems really well, a Tom Brady type player. But lakes killer speed (not slow though) and the x-factor creatively. But if you needed a match won and a team system working at 98% for 99% of the time you Go for Johnny.
@interestedbystander196
@interestedbystander196 3 жыл бұрын
@@madebymonkeys5641 Hi Monkeys. I certainly did consider Wilko, but had to leave him out for two reasons. First, he doesn't get the 10 jersey ahead of Dan Carter. The second reason has to do with my setup. I have elected to go with only two backline players and six forwards on the bench. Therefore, I needed a strong option to cover both flyhalf and centre, and Jonny only gives me half of that. Had to put Farrell on the bench to cover these two positions (making him the only current player to make my team). If I went with three backs on the bench, I'd lose Michael Jones (heresy, I know!), and have Wilkinson to sub for flyhalf, with Danie Gerber taking the centre spot on the bench. If I wanted a viable alternative to Cullen for covering the back three, then Jason Robinson has to be worth considering. You may have seen I picked Augustin Pichot as an alternative sub for scrumhalf. I initially wondered if he was that inherently that good, or if he just looked so good because he was behind that phenomenal Pumas pack. But then, I also remember he was almost always first name on the team sheet when they were picking Baasbaas sides in those days, so he had something about him...
@boerieroll
@boerieroll 3 жыл бұрын
Some interesting points but you can't have 2 number 5s at lock, Eales is in there because he had a good line out and kicked for goal, you don't need your lock to kick for goal, if your fly half does his job. I don't really rate Johnson, historians would probably go for Frik DuPreez although he would be a little undersized nowadays
@interestedbystander196
@interestedbystander196 3 жыл бұрын
@Henri Panapa When you start your comment with "shit list", your credibility takes a significant hit. Then when you consider a good proportion of your players are also on my list, you just _have to wonder_ ...
@pdjhh
@pdjhh 3 жыл бұрын
Your Owen Farrell pick hasn’t aged well.
@igolfjtweetler4097
@igolfjtweetler4097 2 жыл бұрын
I get why you left out Gerber given lack of tests but he is the best back I have ever seen.
@nickhollman2864
@nickhollman2864 5 жыл бұрын
I think Andrew has this absolutely right. Certain players go straight in: Fitzpatrick, Johnson, McCaw, Carter and Lomu. Thought provoking discussions: Du Randt vs Leonard, Brooke vs Dallaglio vs Shelford, Pienaar vs Michael Jones, Campese vs Habana, Horan vs BOD, Cullen vs Blanco.....
@loganwilliams7635
@loganwilliams7635 9 ай бұрын
I love cullen, although not everyone even puts him as the all black best 15 which i find baffling. Man was a different level athlete.
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 6 ай бұрын
Zinzan Brooke has to be the number 8 - the man had every skill, hands as good as a fly half, and he even dropped goals from distance. As much as I liked Dallaglio, he wasn't half the player Brooke was. I'd pick Leonard at 3. Jones for Pienaar is a good pick, Horan over BOD - don't think so! I like Cullen for Blanco, but I'd keep Campese over Habana.
@MrT67
@MrT67 5 ай бұрын
Tiny Woodcock is the best loosehead. Was a dominant scrummager. I couldn't say the the same about Du Randt. Woodcock was also pretty mobile.
@rogerhawkins6433
@rogerhawkins6433 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t really argue with any of those selections with the possible inclusion of Brian Habana at 14.... otherwise pretty well spot on I think! Well done you - regards from Auckland, NZ.
@ReeceReggiePrice
@ReeceReggiePrice 5 жыл бұрын
Danie Gerber?
@richierich4768
@richierich4768 4 жыл бұрын
Danie Gerber was better than Sella. Gerber knows it and so does Sella. Okay, so Gerber didn't play as many International games as he should have, but the Currie Cup (where he played) was extremely fierce competition, back then, and the top A section teams were of international level, in any case.
@geraldrust9586
@geraldrust9586 4 жыл бұрын
Doring Danie for sure!! The world was deprived of seeing more of this great player.
@mootheconqueror1965
@mootheconqueror1965 4 жыл бұрын
Sella over Gerber anyday
@douglashiri675
@douglashiri675 4 жыл бұрын
Kia ora Danie Gerber my favourite centre of all time, Due to Sth Africa isolation from International Rugby the world never got to see his brilliance, oh and P Sell a my second favourite centre
@ronansavage7918
@ronansavage7918 3 жыл бұрын
thefobbie you obviously haven’t watched O’driscoll play enough
@liofit1006
@liofit1006 5 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge man,obviously there are a lot of options,but those players can be in the XV definitely
@bentuber1
@bentuber1 4 жыл бұрын
No.6 : Thierry dusathoir Has to get a mention But Richard hill for England deserves his place. An unsung hero. And I'm irish.
@freddyf7036
@freddyf7036 4 жыл бұрын
Thierry dusautoir merci
@keithdontsweat8093
@keithdontsweat8093 4 жыл бұрын
Schalk Burger
@owenrichards8901
@owenrichards8901 4 жыл бұрын
Lukhanyo Ntuthu Burger is a 7
@keithdontsweat8093
@keithdontsweat8093 4 жыл бұрын
@@owenrichards8901 he's played 6, 7,8
@owenrichards8901
@owenrichards8901 4 жыл бұрын
Lukhanyo Ntuthu fair comment but he’s more recognised as a 7
@mareschallannes6661
@mareschallannes6661 5 жыл бұрын
Mate, quite an awesome list u put up here bro. Love it.
@nicolaslegrand9414
@nicolaslegrand9414 3 жыл бұрын
Great selection! I sense that your criterias were based on a form of leadership and all these players enjoyed full legitimacy amongst their peers. Would have disagree on the flank, Pienaar, but since we're all peacefully going about our opinions, Ill have to go with Olivier Magne who was a gem of a player, or Betsen. ... Yes I am chauvinistic when I indulge in cheese, wine or certain rugby players. But I really wouldn't have minded seen Christian Cullen at number 15, another gem!
@tollyt7465
@tollyt7465 5 жыл бұрын
I've selected a 23 man squad as a 15 is nigh on impossible, so all would get on, and hopefully it's a balanced side. Unlike many I've been fortunate enough to see all of my squad play. 1. Os Du Randt 2. Keith Wood 3. Carl Hayman 4. Martin Johnson 5. Victor Matfield 6. Richard Hill 7. Richie Mcaw 8. Sergio Parisse 9. Joost van der whesthuizen 10. Phil Bennett 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Danie Gerber 13. Brian O Driscoll 14. Jason Robinson 15. Christian Cullen Bench: Mike Gibson (possibly the greatest individual all round player ever, could play anywhere in back line at international level) JPR Williams( covers FB, wing and played international back row) George Smith( only Richie keeps him out at openside) Sean Fitzpatrick( abrasive, nightmare to play against and brilliant captain) Brodie Retallick( he's a great while still playing, but not enough for starting 15 in this company) Adam Jones( awesome tight head, great scrummager, good round the park and underrated by many) Rodrigo Roncero( most destructive scrummager I've ever seen and another who's underrated because he wasn't from one of the big nations when playing ) Gareth Edwards( I literally tossed a coin between him and Joost for the 9 starting jersey, and change my mind every 10 seconds) Have to mention Dan Carter as a great, but wouldn't be in my 15 because of Phil Bennett being just THE genius, and not on Bench as Mike Gibson covers 10 and centres. One other who I would love to select, but can't is David Duckham. Another amazing player who was never used properly by England, and would have walked into any international side and been considered a great. People may scoff and say a few of these wouldn't last long in the modern game, but I totally disagree. Class is Class whatever era it comes from.
@calrollins4105
@calrollins4105 5 жыл бұрын
Although I am south African so I would have preferred to see Bryan Habana
@WWEFan-ty5xd
@WWEFan-ty5xd 3 жыл бұрын
not better than rupeni, lomu and williams as a raw player, but his longetivity
@tristankrisch8017
@tristankrisch8017 5 жыл бұрын
No Joost van der Westhuizen?
@lgdude9050
@lgdude9050 5 жыл бұрын
And Habana
@Frank-iv2pt
@Frank-iv2pt 5 жыл бұрын
James Lewis spot on mate
@lgdude9050
@lgdude9050 5 жыл бұрын
@James Lewis and habana for campise
@lgdude9050
@lgdude9050 5 жыл бұрын
@@etiennenel4494 whats your problem?
@BD2784KOP
@BD2784KOP 5 жыл бұрын
Gareth Edwards is the most complete rugby player ever. A genius.
@wlk2408
@wlk2408 4 жыл бұрын
Frik Du Preez should also be included at lock. He was a goalkicker, ran like a back, had a good step, he was very strong and very fast for a lock.
@DeLaRey767
@DeLaRey767 4 жыл бұрын
Surely Bryan Habana should've been in the mix, the man scored 67 international tries.
@gus-qj2mp
@gus-qj2mp 4 жыл бұрын
great player but not better than lomu or campese
@MKRM27
@MKRM27 4 жыл бұрын
He could have scored 670 tries, but he’s not one of the worlds best wingers
@alfiebibby796
@alfiebibby796 3 жыл бұрын
habana and shane williams are better than campese imo
@fergus12
@fergus12 Жыл бұрын
He should've been on the opposite wing to Lomu
@bluechief1
@bluechief1 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet team. Think I'd have 4. Retallick 5. Matfield 6. Hill in the pack. Can't comment on anything pre 90s so I'd have 9. Joost/Du Preez 12. Horan 14. CAUCAUNIBUCA! and 15. Cullen
@henryevans1092
@henryevans1092 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think he’s a New Zealander
@dudemsc22
@dudemsc22 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Evans Welsh I believe
@jamescrofton7981
@jamescrofton7981 5 жыл бұрын
No new zealander would omit Cullen
@kickinit8314
@kickinit8314 5 жыл бұрын
What makes you think that? Do you disagree?
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 5 жыл бұрын
I don't.
@henryevans1092
@henryevans1092 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do think that there were a couple players he could have chosen
@dixonmwaura5561
@dixonmwaura5561 4 жыл бұрын
15 Had to be Cullen surely.
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 4 жыл бұрын
Why not Nelia?
@MKRM27
@MKRM27 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@steviedj6730
@steviedj6730 3 жыл бұрын
😳😂
@interestedbystander196
@interestedbystander196 3 жыл бұрын
Cullen's on mybench, to cover FB and wings. But startung wing jerseys to Jonah and Flyin' Bryan, with Blanco at 15.
@tombutcher3021
@tombutcher3021 3 жыл бұрын
@@interestedbystander196 I would have runpini caucau, Sivivatu and Rockakoko all day long over those wingers. Even over Lomu who was a giant in a game that was amateur just going pro. He would never have the devastating affect these days.
@the_katman2181
@the_katman2181 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great team. My SA bias would like Victor Matfield at 5, Fourie du Preez at 9 and Danie Gerber at 13, but when you have Eales, Edwards and O'Driscoll in your team you probably shouldn't complain.
@alwynmalan1
@alwynmalan1 Жыл бұрын
Eales should stay, but Matfield was a better lock than Johnson
@loganwilliams7635
@loganwilliams7635 9 ай бұрын
Dont think you can kick Edwards out man had everything, no doubt he could still play no.9 in todays game with his power as well.
@jon.tarboctarbock1172
@jon.tarboctarbock1172 6 ай бұрын
I think Edwards is the greatest rugby player ever,and all the other scrumhalf options look weak going,du Preez, galleon,donaldson
@ohwhye
@ohwhye 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting list. Well done.
@_Opal_Miner_
@_Opal_Miner_ 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. It is tough taking on a list like this. Everyone is going to have different opinions but with the additions of your honourable mentions (in the description) you've come as close as I have seen anyone come to nailing it.
@fergus12
@fergus12 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Some of these players a uncomparable because they are from different eras.
@TwoLuckGaming
@TwoLuckGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Wheres Paul O'Connell?????????
@sharp2684
@sharp2684 5 жыл бұрын
WHO?
@digitaldemocracyai-rob
@digitaldemocracyai-rob 5 жыл бұрын
Great leader. Good player.....not near best ever standard.
@normanharris6023
@normanharris6023 5 жыл бұрын
using the bathroom perhaps....?
@SuperBlackted
@SuperBlackted 5 жыл бұрын
Probably just shy of being in this company. My only complaint is that Sella and ODriscoll both played at 13. Other than that it’s a pretty accurate team.
@zisssssou
@zisssssou 5 жыл бұрын
Where he is, not in this video. A great leader, but John Eales and Johnson won World Cups and reivented the second-row
@Norfing1995
@Norfing1995 Жыл бұрын
1: Christian Califano / Jason leonard 2: William Servat / Mario Ledesma 3: Carl Hayman / Nicolas Mas 4: Bakkies Botha / Michel Palmié 5: John Eales / Victor Matfield 6: Shalk Burger / Jerome Kaino 7: Richie McCaw / Richard Hill 8: Kieran Read/ Sergio Parrise 9: Gareth Edwards / George Gregan 10: Dan Carter / Jonny Wilkinson 11: Shane Williams / Jonah Lomu 12: Phillipe Sela / Didier Codorniou 13: Brian O'driscoll / Cristian Cullen 14: Brian Habana / David Campese 15: Serge Blanco / JPPR Williams Là on est pas mal .
@Bully1973
@Bully1973 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Horan at 12. Won two world cups and was player of the tournament in '99.
@juanhohaia5537
@juanhohaia5537 3 жыл бұрын
Yip totally agree with Timmy Got an should have certainly been in this team..
@mikeeemike
@mikeeemike 5 жыл бұрын
Great team. But if we're talking best in the position of all time. Cullen at 15. Michael Jones at 6.
@tonyjones1856
@tonyjones1856 5 жыл бұрын
Jpr Williams at 15.
@shaunduncan8332
@shaunduncan8332 3 жыл бұрын
100% correct
@vincentadams7264
@vincentadams7264 3 жыл бұрын
Blanco has to be in the team. He is the best fullback ever, he was revolutionnary.
@tokysobukanla
@tokysobukanla 3 жыл бұрын
Serge Blanco is the best fullback ever period. He single-handedly revolutionized the position.
@WWEFan-ty5xd
@WWEFan-ty5xd 3 жыл бұрын
@@tokysobukanla have you not seen cullen play? he had the greatest striking rate for a bloody fullback. he scored every time he touched the ball
@peterwaring8394
@peterwaring8394 4 жыл бұрын
Must have Tim Horan at 12 and someone other than Pienaar...a wonderful captain but by no means the greatest ever number 6.
@Fuzcapp
@Fuzcapp 4 жыл бұрын
How about MIchael Jones? George Smith? Jean Pierre Rives?
@nzsoulman
@nzsoulman 4 жыл бұрын
Kaino
@naziemmoos6904
@naziemmoos6904 4 жыл бұрын
Schalk Burger was way better than Pienaar at 6
@matthewaislabie7354
@matthewaislabie7354 5 жыл бұрын
Greatest captains. Good video bro.
@kirkwilson1401
@kirkwilson1401 4 жыл бұрын
great to see you did not forget Edwards, Sella, Campo and Blanco - but you probably forgot the one who most commentators and critics (and players) still regard as the "greatest' (even many NZers) - and that is Mike Gibson of Ireland (at No 12) - or maybe you are just too young to remember or know of him
@slychord_
@slychord_ 5 жыл бұрын
No Habana this is outrageous (I’m welsh and kiwi btw)
@tadhgokeeffe310
@tadhgokeeffe310 4 жыл бұрын
SLYcHoRd over lomu or campezie no chance
@ciaranMartin06
@ciaranMartin06 4 жыл бұрын
You're the first welsh person I've seen on here
@alpachino8195
@alpachino8195 5 жыл бұрын
Why aren't I on the list? I was the best left back to ever play for Narnia.
@Tagikakibau
@Tagikakibau 5 жыл бұрын
I was best left back in the changing room.
@alpachino8195
@alpachino8195 5 жыл бұрын
Our dressing room was tiny. Just a bloody wardrobe.
@o.binwheelie9733
@o.binwheelie9733 4 жыл бұрын
Alpa Chino don’t give em that mate it was a fuckoff wardrobe with a forest at the end. Did get fucking freezing in the winter mind
@maxkolbe8893
@maxkolbe8893 3 жыл бұрын
@@alpachino8195 wardrobe? In my day we dressed in a size 2 shoebox!
@Clearlight201
@Clearlight201 6 ай бұрын
J.P.R. Williams for me was the greatest full back, amazing tackler, 100% commitment. Thierry Dusautoir is mentioned in McCaw's autobiography as a great flanker.
@stewartdavies929
@stewartdavies929 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best “best ever” videos I’ve seen.
@californiancondor6860
@californiancondor6860 5 жыл бұрын
Cant imagine anyone listing the best XV of all time leaving out Willie John.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 3 жыл бұрын
McBride
@dazeng4633
@dazeng4633 3 жыл бұрын
Give over. May as well have Webb Ellis in there
@californiancondor6860
@californiancondor6860 3 жыл бұрын
@@dazeng4633 It does say "Of ALL time "
@dazeng4633
@dazeng4633 3 жыл бұрын
@@californiancondor6860 I'm teasing. The man was a fine player
@californiancondor6860
@californiancondor6860 3 жыл бұрын
@@dazeng4633 Only saw him in person once. Never knew thighs grew so thick
@thomashibbert1399
@thomashibbert1399 5 жыл бұрын
Wheres Andy Goode?????????
@Idontbelieveitt
@Idontbelieveitt 5 жыл бұрын
At the hairdressers I assume
@breenwalshe7667
@breenwalshe7667 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck him the pick,as for Martin Johnson ,would he walk through South Armagh ,don't think so........the prick.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs 5 жыл бұрын
sure jaysus, yer givin' the poor soul a lashing too hefty
@thomashibbert1399
@thomashibbert1399 5 жыл бұрын
@@samgreer8274 my dear boi u r in for a treat
@breenwalshe7667
@breenwalshe7667 5 жыл бұрын
Jeru Damage ,shite........
@mikhailbulgakov4296
@mikhailbulgakov4296 4 жыл бұрын
Loads of people saying Cullen should be over Blanco. Have you guys ever seen Blanco play? He really had something special.
@s99bf0c8
@s99bf0c8 5 жыл бұрын
Great list. Solid choices all round although can't please all of the people all of the time
@ianor2304
@ianor2304 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the 15 'most iconic' XV of all time
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it! - all great and iconic players without a doubt - but the best ever at their position ??? In many cases not, but you can't argue with Lomu, Edwards and McCaw - surely the first names on anyone's "Greatest" list.
@jfk3465
@jfk3465 5 жыл бұрын
No habana even though he is all time top try scorer? hmm
@santosl.harper4471
@santosl.harper4471 5 жыл бұрын
rah rah second
@Jondo5
@Jondo5 5 жыл бұрын
Top try scorer for South Africa only
@jfk3465
@jfk3465 5 жыл бұрын
@@santosl.harper4471 that japanese guy only played against 2nd tier teams so I dont include him
@jfk3465
@jfk3465 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jondo5 no the world. That japanes guy only played against 2nd tier teams
@sm0636
@sm0636 5 жыл бұрын
rah rah he played against sa in the 2007 world cup
@jbot6902
@jbot6902 3 жыл бұрын
Some names left out here : Danie Gerber,Sid Goeing,Pierre Spies,Gregor Townsend,Gavin Hastings,Brian Williams,Hugo Porta !
@troyocarroll
@troyocarroll 3 ай бұрын
You must be old like me with some of those names. Glad someone remembers the " old greats".
@Maxu2027
@Maxu2027 4 жыл бұрын
This kind of list is always a heartbreaker : everyone always has in mind 2 or 3 names to add to each post ... and is disappointed not to see others ... but what is always good : "Souvenirs".
@johnroberts9845
@johnroberts9845 2 жыл бұрын
Sir Gareth Edwards....... just wow what a player., rightly voted the best player of all time 👏
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 2 жыл бұрын
Gareth as best of all time .... maybe. As long as remember Jonah Lomu was a rugby God.
@timphillips9954
@timphillips9954 7 ай бұрын
@@3vimages471 Not for me he was a player for his time. Would Jonah get a game today? As good as he was he relied greatly on bulk and speed. Many of todays players would match him at both. Both were real gents, and well respected especially in Wales, but Gareth was really an icon of the game.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 7 ай бұрын
You are joking right?@@timphillips9954
@steviedj6730
@steviedj6730 3 жыл бұрын
Back 3 is strong! Imagine campese and blanco working space for lomu!?
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 4 жыл бұрын
Great 15 thanks for the video
@mikebellis5713
@mikebellis5713 3 жыл бұрын
JJ William's, JPR Williams, Willie McBride. Close to southern hemisphere line up
@eaglecap8553
@eaglecap8553 5 жыл бұрын
Brodie Rettalick is the Greatest Lock of all time. I dont care what anybody says. He still has years left in him too.
@springbokwindowsanddoors5819
@springbokwindowsanddoors5819 5 жыл бұрын
EAGLECAP Matfield best lock to ever live!
@daratheprofessional1827
@daratheprofessional1827 5 жыл бұрын
EAGLECAP He got smashed in Dublin
@eaglecap8553
@eaglecap8553 5 жыл бұрын
@@daratheprofessional1827 113 years of games between Ireland and NZ and the Irish have won on 2 occasions. Talk to me when the World Cup gets started then we'll see who gets smashed. LOL
@daratheprofessional1827
@daratheprofessional1827 5 жыл бұрын
EAGLECAP But Brodie got smashed last week big time.
@eaglecap8553
@eaglecap8553 5 жыл бұрын
@@daratheprofessional1827 Still the Greatest. If we're talking blokes getting smashed then BOD wouldn't be mentioned as an all time great he got bullied by Kiwis for his whole career. Yet he's still one of the best.
@gezzarandom
@gezzarandom 5 жыл бұрын
You can make a case for that XV, but from reading the comments, I'm surprised very few people have put a case forward for Michael Lynagh, one of the best players there's ever been.
@Romans8-9
@Romans8-9 3 жыл бұрын
He's not even the best Australian fly half. Larkham is.
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 3 жыл бұрын
@@Romans8-9 ,I was just gonna say that.
@mattspicer7843
@mattspicer7843 5 жыл бұрын
Castrogiovanni was a bit handy up front as well.
@mattyb3780
@mattyb3780 Жыл бұрын
Its hard enough picking an all-time team for one country let alone for the whole world. So hats off for trying
@alunmorgan2352
@alunmorgan2352 3 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to compare players from different eras. Fitness levels and training ect. Most of the players had full time jobs. Also easier to look good in a better team
@fergus12
@fergus12 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@zisssssou
@zisssssou 5 жыл бұрын
Apart François Pienaar and Fitzpatrick, a pretty incredible selection
@Hshdysissnwhwwu
@Hshdysissnwhwwu Жыл бұрын
Every single player who plays in the pack should look up to Martin Johnson and play with his mentality and attitude. Absolute rugby thug. I love it
@Oprey22
@Oprey22 5 жыл бұрын
Honourable mentions to Shane Williams? Well, thanks awfully! Most grateful, old bean!
@bapple494
@bapple494 5 жыл бұрын
Keith wood ??
@ahjoostdedahbehigpu6749
@ahjoostdedahbehigpu6749 5 жыл бұрын
Plus he looks like Alexei Sayle.
@tollyt7465
@tollyt7465 5 жыл бұрын
Ahjoostdedah Behigpu Uncle Fester
@JohnSmith-wo2fz
@JohnSmith-wo2fz 5 жыл бұрын
@@tollyt7465 We always called him Fester at home. First world player of the year in case anyone has forgotten.
@onlyone6537
@onlyone6537 5 жыл бұрын
How about make a video of the best 15 from before year 2000 and one best 15 after the year 2000..coz to my knowledge there is a lot of players out there that are really good...like joost for 9..Cullen for 15.. John Kirwin and Habana..Rettalic..Tim Horan ,Nonu ..Jeremy Guscot..Wilkinson, Lawrence Dallalio and many More..this are the names that could be in it but your pick is still good too..so let's split the best into 2 great 15s
@RealNzlord
@RealNzlord 5 жыл бұрын
My money would be on before 2000 Hahah if they were to play
@subhuman119
@subhuman119 5 жыл бұрын
Os du Rant K Mealamu C Hayman J Eales B Thorn M Jones R McCaw B Shelford G Gregan D Carter J Lomu T Umanga B O'Driscoll J Wilson C Cullen
@malcolmjohn3273
@malcolmjohn3273 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh when i see Wilkinson named , he was a carthorse , great boot , good tactician , ok tackler ,...no speed , totally predictable and a bore .
@ruffhus2916
@ruffhus2916 5 жыл бұрын
Vaya equipazo !!!. 👏👏👏👏💖💛💖
@taurifleming1578
@taurifleming1578 5 жыл бұрын
Thanx 4 the memories. Some nice some notso
@bullyoz1973
@bullyoz1973 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Horan ? He won two world cups including player of the tournament in '99.
@digitaldemocracyai-rob
@digitaldemocracyai-rob 4 жыл бұрын
Was a dog out of a trap but little imagination or inspiration.
@Romans8-9
@Romans8-9 3 жыл бұрын
@thefobbie 1 series is meaningless.
@therealmrfishpaste
@therealmrfishpaste 5 жыл бұрын
Of all time?...where's Collin Meades, Frik Du Preez, Danie Gerber, Willie John McBride etc...?
@willliam1343
@willliam1343 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Although it is impossible to compare the professional era to the old days.
@greenblood5640
@greenblood5640 5 жыл бұрын
Naas Botha
@mizofan
@mizofan 5 жыл бұрын
Not McBride.
@ronansavage7918
@ronansavage7918 3 жыл бұрын
Not Gerber, Du Perez or Meades
@jukeboxtimebomber
@jukeboxtimebomber 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vid (but surely Jason Robinson needs to be in there)?
@badabing8884
@badabing8884 5 жыл бұрын
Pienaar was an openside flanker for the Boks in the 1995 RWC despite wearing the 6 shirt.
@stephanvandermerwe7219
@stephanvandermerwe7219 5 жыл бұрын
I will include Joost and Victor Matfield...
@emanuelc41
@emanuelc41 5 жыл бұрын
Michael jones over Francois Pienaar
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 5 жыл бұрын
What about Jerry Collins?
@ngabushallday6642
@ngabushallday6642 5 жыл бұрын
@@prof_kaos9341 and the list goes on...
@jasonph2522
@jasonph2522 5 жыл бұрын
Kaino, Kaino, Kaino
@joelyons886
@joelyons886 5 жыл бұрын
@Angela Michael Jones not only best in his position but in the short 5 for greatest ever, how he's not on this list is shocking but as is the case with most of these personal choices are made by those that do them up so can understand that..
@ahjoostdedahbehigpu6749
@ahjoostdedahbehigpu6749 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Jones over Richie and Richie over Piennar.
@brutismaximus1
@brutismaximus1 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything apart from 2. Keith Wood 6. Thierry Dusautoir and 15 Cullen
@jantheron187
@jantheron187 5 жыл бұрын
In: Horan, Cullen, Ice Jones Out:Sella, Blanco, Pienaar. Would like to know how Naas Botha would fit into modern rugby.
@robertwhalley882
@robertwhalley882 4 жыл бұрын
Sergio Parisse at 8....sublime athlete and carried Italy for a decade
@badabing8884
@badabing8884 5 жыл бұрын
Blanco could be got to under the high ball. Prefer Cullen myself. I think Horan at 12 - two time RWC winner or Nonu.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 3 жыл бұрын
I am English .... Cullen second best player ever after Lomu.
@weirdwind1
@weirdwind1 5 жыл бұрын
can sort of see what you were going for, but personally it'd be Matfield for Johnson for me. but then again, I've never seen Johnson at his peak.
@liam-el1yh
@liam-el1yh 5 жыл бұрын
And would love to see another twelve
@rrrkev
@rrrkev 3 жыл бұрын
Sella was a 13 and picked at 12?? Tim horan best 12 I've seen
@Idontbelieveitt
@Idontbelieveitt 5 жыл бұрын
Well apart from the incomparable Jonah you could make a case for someone else in every position. Just call it my top 15 and that is fine.
@stephenofmilford1216
@stephenofmilford1216 3 жыл бұрын
yes, except for Gareth Edwards, peerless
@rage2637
@rage2637 2 жыл бұрын
And Richie Mccaw to be brutally honest. And I'm a springboks fan
@rockinrollinntrollin616
@rockinrollinntrollin616 5 жыл бұрын
nr 9 Joost Vander westhuisen ?...15 Christian Cullen.. & Brodie Retallic. instead of Johnstone .
@declanbackos1941
@declanbackos1941 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with you except on the Brodie Retallic statement
@lgdude9050
@lgdude9050 5 жыл бұрын
@@declanbackos1941 agree with you but Habana over David
@adammiddup-jones4563
@adammiddup-jones4563 5 жыл бұрын
Gareth Edwards is potentially the greatest player to ever play the game so as good as joost was and as much of a fan of his i am he cant make it in
@malcolmjohn3273
@malcolmjohn3273 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Davies anyone ? GENIOUS !
@grahams1609
@grahams1609 5 жыл бұрын
players I think were incredible Barry John Gary Teichmann Mervyn Davies Jason Robinson Richard Hill
@chrisreynecke3129
@chrisreynecke3129 5 жыл бұрын
Missed out on Frik Du Preez & Danie Gerber
@mootheconqueror1965
@mootheconqueror1965 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Horan was better than Gerber
@micky-tm8wn
@micky-tm8wn 5 жыл бұрын
Rugbys greatest XV of all time 1.Ronny Pickering 2.Ronny Pickering 3.Ronny Pickering 4.Ronny Pickering 5.Ronny Pickering 6.Ronny Pickering 7.Ronny Pickering 8.Ronny Pickering 9.Ronny Pickering 10.Ronny Pickering 11.Ronny Pickering 12.Ronny Pickering 13.Ronny Pickering 14.Ronny Pickering 15.Ronny Pickering
@MeanAzz_13
@MeanAzz_13 4 жыл бұрын
Who?
@robinmcewen3286
@robinmcewen3286 3 жыл бұрын
Any 'greatest' selection is subjective. But the one player almost every list includes is Gareth Edwards. Just shows how good he was. Even the NZs rate him the best 9 ever.
@samuelby9574
@samuelby9574 3 жыл бұрын
Bod is the on every list aswell
@rileyfreeman9726
@rileyfreeman9726 2 жыл бұрын
no we don't, JDW's the greatest 9
@tommcglone2867
@tommcglone2867 4 жыл бұрын
Brian O'Driscoll, Jonah Lomu and Gareth Edwards are absolute no-brainers. The rest IMO are totally down to preference. I would actually have Sam Warburton at 7 and Ronan O'Gara at 10. Clutch players.
@leonmoore9848
@leonmoore9848 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaa!!! I literally, wet myself laughing that you would drop Dan Carter for Ronan O'Gara......And then Richie McCaw for Sam Warburton hahahahahahahaa!!!!!! what are you smoking?
@joshharrison619
@joshharrison619 2 жыл бұрын
Im a year late but Tom my guy get off the drugs
@tommcglone2867
@tommcglone2867 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonmoore9848 another insufferably arrogant kiwi.
@tommcglone2867
@tommcglone2867 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshharrison619 and yet another insufferably arrogant kiwi
@joshharrison619
@joshharrison619 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommcglone2867 I’m English you clown
@Mazzakitoomba
@Mazzakitoomba 5 жыл бұрын
Three are at least four more players: Sébastien Chabal, Johnny Wilkinson, Sergio Parisse, Felipe Contepomi.
@josebagaraizar6225
@josebagaraizar6225 2 жыл бұрын
Chabal??? Jajaja, Parise y Contepomi si te los compro.
@edgeofwest5741
@edgeofwest5741 5 жыл бұрын
I'd give that 2 shirt to Keith Wood
@robertcourt8593
@robertcourt8593 5 жыл бұрын
And tell him to get it washed and ironed ready for fitzy to wear.
@Fuzcapp
@Fuzcapp 4 жыл бұрын
I loved Blanco - but Christian Cullen was the best Full back I ever saw. I loved Phillipe Sella (especially when he ironed out Fitzsimmons) but i would take Tim Horan any day.
@michaelcoley7649
@michaelcoley7649 4 жыл бұрын
Why a great team! I’m so relieved that the halfback was the greatest Gareth Edwards.
@Fuzcapp
@Fuzcapp 4 жыл бұрын
Personally i would have gone with Ken Catchpole or Syd Going - Edwards was brilliant, no doubt. Maybe it's a Southern Hemisphere thing ...
@freddiemedley5580
@freddiemedley5580 4 ай бұрын
Why do you Welsh lot love pretending you have the best fallback? When you have the best blind side fkanker and captain with Sam Whaburton, two of the best wingers with George North and Shane Williams and the best lock to play the game with Alyn Wyn Jones. Stop promoting that old geezer who'd get flaterned and celebrate your more modern history.
@Jondo5
@Jondo5 5 жыл бұрын
My opinion is that Pienaar did not play that long to cement a place, Jerry Collins or Richard Hill was better, Phillips Sella was an outside center, Tim Horan was the best inside center, fullback there was Christian Cullen, Andre Joubert, Jason Robinson, Stuart Hogg and even Leigh Halfpenny
@Romans8-9
@Romans8-9 5 жыл бұрын
Think he wanted both O´Driscoll and Sella in the team, which is why he put Sella at 12.
@abubakardouglas8268
@abubakardouglas8268 5 жыл бұрын
Fullback JPR Williams of course. Sella was an outside centre. No 9 and 10 are impossible to name, I'd have put Barry John at 10 but I can think of an argument for many more.
@tritonpoaneki6609
@tritonpoaneki6609 5 жыл бұрын
what about scott burger
@andrewmcdonald6780
@andrewmcdonald6780 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed Horan is the greatest player Australian Rugby has produced and should have been the inside centre.
@charlottecook3571
@charlottecook3571 3 жыл бұрын
dont want to sound like an old codger. Im Welsh and to not mention JPR Williams as fullback but with all due respect to include Leigh Halfpenny who is a wonderful player is ridiculous. JPR or maybe Serge Blanco are best bar none
@will6885
@will6885 5 жыл бұрын
Thierry Dusautoir?
@theroogie
@theroogie 3 жыл бұрын
I would pick Andre Joubert easily as classiest and best full back of all time, anytime. I’m not sure why he’s often forgotten. Probably one of the most exciting players to ever play
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with you but Campese was overrated too
@deshannaidu6081
@deshannaidu6081 2 жыл бұрын
I agree surprised Andre Joubert wasn't there. I also think Dan Carter was exceptional.... But I would choose Henry Honiball at fly half...
@crispinswainstonharrison9042
@crispinswainstonharrison9042 6 ай бұрын
Jouba couldn’t tackle
@rubencuneo1295
@rubencuneo1295 5 жыл бұрын
Hugo Porta scratching Carter´s back, and Morné Duplessis the same with Brooke
@smoovegaming7340
@smoovegaming7340 5 жыл бұрын
All these comments saying #11 shouldve been someone else then Lomu. Just know for the fact that WHOEVER you choose..your comparing him to a Jonah Lomu. The man who only played at 80% of his professional career...now if lomu is considered what he is today ..a "LEGEND" ..imagine what he couldve done ...."HEALTHHY" 🤔😏😊 so regardless your choice...Lomu wins anyways. #JonahLomu #BestWinger #Untouchable
@dougcarter454
@dougcarter454 5 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% ....a REAL YOUNG MAN WAS HE .
@wildSAsavage52
@wildSAsavage52 5 жыл бұрын
JPR Williams @ fullback - Frik du Preez @ Lock over Martin Johnson anyday ;-) Micheal Jones over Francois Pienaar + I`m a SAFFER too
@hermanvzyl
@hermanvzyl 4 жыл бұрын
Jones for sure, but Pienaar shouldn't be there anyway, he also played open side. So Jones should be open side, and Collins most likely should be blind side.
@mootheconqueror1965
@mootheconqueror1965 4 жыл бұрын
Pienaar was very inspirational, but Michael Jones was a far better player.
@markjones464
@markjones464 3 жыл бұрын
@thefobbie These men like J.P.R Are real men , played Test Ruby Saturday On , Tuesday my brother broke his arm Guess who fixed it , Dr J . P. R , To much money and Glamour , Now It just a game
@markjones464
@markjones464 3 жыл бұрын
@thefobbie Yes , that sounds like Our J.P.R , He was so Brave , I was 14 years old and would marvel at This man's Courage , It was not like He was not to Bright , He was a Doctor P.s I Think I had a man crush on him Like my Dad was , he was what men were Supposed to be a Man ( Lost my dad 2Years ago , proud to say I Loved him very Much , There seams to be Dust in the Air my eyes are Watering !!! Regards Mark Ps I am a Aussie , 1976 My Father and Mother , got home sick and took my 3 Brothers and sister to live in Wales , That were I learnt about Ruby , Yes You could not but love that team They had a incredible era , I was Turning in to a proper little Welshman After 2 Years , one Brother was going Back to Australia , It was to cold for us Boys , I wanted to go home , Dad as The Man he was could see the Family Breaking up , so back to Aussie we came A Mistake No we meet All the Family , Dad was one of 5 and Mum 1 of 9 , at That time apart from one Grandparent All were Alive , and for the next 40 years Half the Uncle and Aunty's came for Holidays , sad to say only 3 Left , Well I have wonderful memories it a Celebrations of there life I remember And as you see , I have not Forgotten About Welsh Ruby , especially J.P.R Regards . Mark Jones ( You could Not get a more Welsh Name !!! Psss I Hope to find you are well In this COVID time , you have been Doing it Tough there , we are Lucky We Learnt from Your part of the World and shut shop , We are also In Western Australia and shut borders To other states which has protected Us . So look after yourself my Friend
@thebullishpartridge1227
@thebullishpartridge1227 3 жыл бұрын
Pienarr playing at 6 in SA is their open side btw, I think. Very tough topic, but guaranteed to cause debate. I must admit I was expecting Christian Cullen, but pleasantly surprised with Serge.
@maelughran6981
@maelughran6981 5 жыл бұрын
Ireland and Ulster legend, Cameron Michael Henderson GIBSON, otherwise known as just plain 'Mike'....suggest you check out some footage of the most complete (greatest) backline player to grace a rugby pitch. He could play anywhere in the backline except scrum-half. As good as O'Driscoll and Sella combined....
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