Ruger American Stock vs Upgraded: From 100-1000 Yards

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11 ай бұрын

We took a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor and upgraded it step by step showing the results along the way.
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@disfordiesel8219 11 ай бұрын

You proved the scope was the biggest improvement of the test.

@KS_Penetrator 11 ай бұрын

Can’t shoot what you can’t see

@tiputipu777 11 ай бұрын

@@KS_Penetratorbad fundamentals with the stock rifle. The parallax error shows that head position isnt constant.

@michaelhill6451 11 ай бұрын

@@tiputipu777 In fairness, that was absolutely horrific parallax.

@realcounterfeitchristianity 11 ай бұрын

thats it,100%

@misterlewgee8874 11 ай бұрын

I'd have liked to have seen original stock with upgraded scope at 1000 yards..

@biggs8729 11 ай бұрын

You guys usually do really good tests and comparisons, but You really stacked the deck here with that Leupold Mark 5. The take away from this MDT video was that if you use really expensive Leupold optics, your going to improve the accuracy of your rifle. Put the Mark 5 on the gun for all the tests and the margin will be pretty close.

@IHateYoutubeHandles615 11 ай бұрын

I see your point, but you're also making their point for them; better optics (and a muzzle brake) make a huge difference regardless of the rifle. What they did was sort of like buying a stereo amp and then buying 3 sets of stereo speakers; adequate, good, best.

@biggs8729 11 ай бұрын

the scope was 4 times the price of the rifle and I thought the point of the video was how MDT products can improve the rifle. A muzzle break and a budget chassis to enhance a budget rifle. And then a $2200 scope on top.

@IHateYoutubeHandles615 11 ай бұрын

@@biggs8729 Yes they used an expensive scope. But they were shooting at long ranges where most 'normal' scopes wouldn't do the job. You need the parallax adjustment and on most scopes that costs.

@biggs8729 11 ай бұрын

@@IHateKZfaqHandles615 then why not use the same scope in both configurations and let the MDT products stand on their own? That's all I'm saying.

@IHateYoutubeHandles615 11 ай бұрын

@@biggs8729 Ahh I see your point. That is a very excellent question!

@allentrevino9280 11 ай бұрын

The rifle was always that accurate but the additional upgrades reduced the variables limiting the shooter ability to see the target. Great video!

@misterlewgee8874 11 ай бұрын

Impressive accuracy from rifle it seemed

@allentrevino9280 11 ай бұрын

@@misterlewgee8874 I'd say that's about what's to be expected from these particular rifles. My Go Wild American is 1/2 MOA but hard to repeat that accuracy with the factory stock since getting a consistent cheekweld is hard. I swapped stocks to a McMillan Game Warden and the consistency has taken care of itself. I did always have decent glass on it though and a brake I could rely upon.

@mike6252 11 ай бұрын

Well done as always Andy! Always a treat to see you shoot in these videos 👍

@fattigla 11 ай бұрын

Good optics make a big difference. The ruger american is an excellent barreled action. The factory stock is really hard to shoot accurately. I was able to get about 1moa with mine. A great rifle to get into shooting, and spend the money on optics and a good stock later on. Great video

@SlavGuns 11 ай бұрын

Surprised you went that far and did not replace the trigger. Probably the second cheapest upgrade for that rifle. Recently took a stock barreled action 6.5 Grendel American out to 1550 and it was a joy. Most important upgrades are decent scope, good muzzle brake and good trigger. The rest is gravy.

@GreatLakesLogger 9 ай бұрын

What trigger do you use? I'm looking into it myself for a short action

@saltpro5603 5 ай бұрын

Looking for what trigger you use as well

@fraserlordly2432 11 ай бұрын

This is a great great video. MDT makes some of the best videos.

@lz3572 11 ай бұрын

Yes the scope upgrade was a definite improvement. My always said [ you can only shoot as good as you can see ] And the chassis is a huge improvement

@barneygo2010 8 ай бұрын

Tonnes and tonnes of good learning here, fellas! I’m using this video as a training tool for my clients. This is a fabulous resource (you MDT crew, too). Peace Be The Journey!

@possum__puncher 11 ай бұрын

This is one the most informative channels on KZfaq! Love it

@justinmcbee8881 11 ай бұрын

Great heads up test. This proves you dont have to spend 5K to have a good match day. Keep the content going.

@doncarnage3539 11 ай бұрын

Wow so interesting! I love these experimental videos you guys do

@kurtissmith4555 11 ай бұрын

MDT definitely pumping out the sick long range content on KZfaq man it’s impressive

@calvin17b 11 ай бұрын

Great stuff! What would’ve happened if you had mounted the better scope on the stock rifle? Also, wouldn’t mind seeing one of these videos with a Howa 1500. Keep ‘em coming!

@justinbeall5821 11 ай бұрын

Yeah i definitely think its a mixture of all the different components working together to improve the consistency rather than making it any more inherently accurate. Interesting though that the cheap base rifle can do as well as this with a factory barrel. My rem 700 had to be rebarelled to see a big improvement in performance. I bet a Tikka would've done really well with all these improvements.

@Adam_Bileckyj 11 ай бұрын

Love it! This type of content is incredibly helpful. It would be interesting to see a similar test keeping the rifle lightweight for hunting.

@tiputipu777 11 ай бұрын

Even the fully upgraded rifle is pretty light for hunting. I hunted years with a trg 22 that weighed about 8kg

@Hammerback972 11 ай бұрын

I have a 6.5 Axis II Precision, optic, can and all, i just use an appliance dolly to get it to the stand.

@edwardrock1666 10 ай бұрын

I put my 6.5 predator ruger in a oryx chassis, I polished the bolt and chamber, put the mcarbo trigger spring in it, a long ported muzzle break and a good fully adjustable bipod.

@jaydavis6594 11 ай бұрын

This was a great video!

@chrisgreenly9796 11 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to see the performance with incremental upgrades. I’d guess the scope and muzzle brake improved the performance more than the chassis. With the muzzle brake being the lowest cost upgrade it would likely be first, then the scope, then chassis, bipod, etc.

@davea9502 11 ай бұрын

Enjoyed the video!

@joshclemons9975 10 ай бұрын

I like the way his mustache raps around the rifle stock😂😂

@davelpz3340 11 ай бұрын

This was excellent.

@johnknouse8846 11 ай бұрын

Really showed how good these factory rifle barrels have become!

@adamb2619 9 ай бұрын

Exactly. Pretty incredible what you can easily buy right off the shelf, and still consider it 'cheap'

@nicobadenhorst3496 11 ай бұрын

Why not test with the mark5 on the stock?

@wheelzandgillz 11 ай бұрын

🤫🤫 buy a chassis first 😂

@xSP3CTREx 11 ай бұрын

My Predator just been sitting around, this would be a good path to take. Thanks!

@Shooter308 10 ай бұрын

I have the American Ruger in 308 , and really like it . Wish i had a better scope then the Walmart scope i have . Everything depends on your budget . But im humble for all i have . Great video guys .

@txmexnittro 2 ай бұрын

Wow, what an awesome video and well done!!! I love your products! I'm thinking of getting a long rifle and getting the upgrades from MDT! Thanks for the video

@MDTTAC 2 ай бұрын

Perfect! You will not regret it ;)

@TheDollarSportsman 10 ай бұрын

That was very fun to watch 😎; thinking about elk season right now so these are all on my mind: chassis, scope, and which barreled action to choose (and caliber for that matter).

@brysonliles1857 11 ай бұрын

Need more of these videos

@05Dmax_LLY 11 ай бұрын

Nearly identical to my 308 build! Been upgrading over the last 2 years and it shoots consistently sub-MOA. Finally decided to drop the coin on a heavier contour Bartlein as the thin factory contour wasn't holding up to the heat well after a stage. IMO a Ruger American in an XRS with a brake and half-decent glass is an excellent entry-level PRS setup for anyone looking to get into the sport without dropping 8k on a full custom rig.

@michaelpeters6659 10 ай бұрын

Did you replace the barrel yourself? If so how did you find the process to be?

@05Dmax_LLY 10 ай бұрын

@michaelpeters6659 I did not as the local gunsmith installs it as part of the chambering process. He made me a custom fixed shoulder barrel so I don't have to deal with a barrel nut. That said, if I were to buy a prefit from some place like Preferred Barrels or X-Caliber, I wouldn't be afraid to install it myself. There's a number of youtube videos showing how to install a barrel with barrel nut like those found on Ruger Americans or Savages.

@michaelpeters6659 10 ай бұрын

@@05Dmax_LLY okay sweet thank you 🙏🏼 I have some experience with savage pre-fit barrels it’s nice to hear that the Ruger is similar

@kerrygarvin6176 9 ай бұрын

Very Nice!!! What optics you going with ?

@Calaveras32Spcl 10 ай бұрын

Have a Gen 1 Ruger American Standard in 223. Was able to ring steel out to 800 (believe I hit the 1000 but was hard to tell). Upgrades consisted of an Amazon strap on cheek rest, 20moa rail and an Athlon Optics scope. Was surprised by that little rifle. And it was my first time trying to shoot that far.

@MDTTAC 10 ай бұрын

Awesome great shooting!

@robertjackson1407 8 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

@ThinkSoberly 11 ай бұрын

That’s some Lorax level stuff!

@brianc0019 7 ай бұрын

Great Vid 🔥🔥🔥👍🏾

@Juliang61 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video!! Fun and learned a lot. You bought the rifle in Tennessee, where did you shoot it? Love the look of that range

@noahfowler9791 10 ай бұрын

You guys should make this a series!! I’d like to see a savage in .308 next

@benmahanay2152 11 ай бұрын

Anything for the long action?

@scruffyarms 11 ай бұрын

Just putting the Oryx on my 6.5 Ruger made a world of difference. Next up is my scope.

@gunsultant7733 11 ай бұрын

Awesome video

@jordanyang3066 10 ай бұрын

Dang now I wanna get a mdt stock and a new scope for my Ruger

@RepMontreal 10 ай бұрын

Damn..you know the craziest thing happened when I shot my Ruger American Predator..I shot it more than 6 rounds with the stock scope mounted properly and the cheap plastic stock it came with and I was getting sub moa groups with S&B 140gn at 100 yards no problem. To think I was that close to spending more than I did on the rifle on aftermarket accessories. I was so sure attaching a piece of plastic to my rifle would make me an expert marksman. Glad I shot more than 2 mags! Fewf!! (Yes, this is satire..the rifle works fine without expensive plastic accessories. You're money is better spent on a quality optic than a new stock..Don't waste your time and money, just go out and shoot the rifle)

@ShooterAcademy 11 ай бұрын

What scope camera are you using?

@robertsahli9998 22 күн бұрын

The chassis and scope are most important parts showing accuracy!

@jiajianhou426 11 ай бұрын

Perfect advertisement for the comp brake

@mikek2824 7 ай бұрын

What scope was the really nice one?

@brandon1910 11 ай бұрын

Good video. I think you should have put the nice scope on the stock rifle on tests as well.

@sethhughes2163 3 ай бұрын

Nice video! The one thing that I need to purchase per yours and others have suggested... is The Trigger Cam. Just seem to forget... until I am on the bags again! KUDO'S to MDT for such PINNACLE SHOOTING PRODUCTS! Respectfully, Seth

@MDTTAC 3 ай бұрын

Thank you, we appreciate the support

@IHateYoutubeHandles615 11 ай бұрын

Does MDT make any stocks for the Ruger American Ranch bolt actions (short barrels, threaded muzzle, extremely lightweight.)

@lanix17 11 ай бұрын

Does the break clamp on to an unthreaded barrel? The stock rifle you were using was unthreaded and adding threads would be an additional cost.

@daporter84 11 ай бұрын

Hitting those 1k plates like they owed you money

@justjeepinitreal 28 күн бұрын

MDT is a cheat code! 😂

@wubaru 6 ай бұрын

I think it is the beard that makes the rifle accurate!

@matzec2485 4 ай бұрын

Nice Video 👍 Did anybody know-does this magpul stuff fits also to a Ruger American Standard?

@fourhourswest2164 11 ай бұрын

Good this have been just fouling? Was the rifle brand new?

@alexmills1329 9 ай бұрын

I have a 7 prc american, when can I expect any long action chassis support for it?

@samuel-JF1981 Ай бұрын

What muzzle brake did you use?

@stackscustominc1 6 ай бұрын

i have the xrs chassis on my proof barrel savage, great chassis! i have the same Ruger but i dropped it in a magpul stock, put on a trijicon tenmile 3-18x, precision armament M4 -72 brake, and teardrop bolt handle and it's shooting just as good as the one in the video. I'm going to be giving it to a family member is a graduation present but i think I'm going to do the same set up but with the xrs chassis to replace it

@chadperry4021 11 ай бұрын

Wonder how close the end result would be with a vortex venom or arken ep5 instead of a scope I’ll never be able to afford.

@mikea327 7 ай бұрын

Does the mdt work with the ruger American go wild 7prc?

@realcounterfeitchristianity 11 ай бұрын

i get under 1 moa with my american in 308 win at 100 and i use ppu ammo. but i still want a stock upgrade, love the video.

@codypaul4181 2 ай бұрын

You guys should do one with a gen 2

@michaelhill6451 11 ай бұрын

It's cool that we saw such a big improvement, but to me it doesn't make sense to spend more on a stock than you did on the entire rifle and to put 5 times the money into the scope as you spent on the stock rifle. Along with the brake and upgraded bipod (that wasn't even mentioned), you've easily got ~$3,300+ in that setup. If you're spending custom rifle money, you might as well get a custom rifle.

@blantant 11 ай бұрын

Doesn't habe to be that specific scope. If it were a duplex side focus leupold results would be similar. Why spend money on a match rifle and have no money leftover for an optic

@michaelhill6451 11 ай бұрын

@@blantant I'm not saying not to buy an optic. I'm saying that you no longer need to spend thousands of dollars to get a decent optic. These days you can get an optic with a lifetime warranty that does what 99% of users will ever need for

@sneakybow1 7 ай бұрын

@michaelhill6451 those sub 400 dollar scopes don't hold zero. Bang them against something one time and you're re-zeroing. You aren't buying a quality scope for under $400. You're buying a warranty that you'll definitely end up using. Buy once, cry once. Optics are definitely true in that regard.

@michaelhill6451 7 ай бұрын

@@sneakybow1 I've literally never had either of my sub-$400 scopes ever lose zero. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

@sneakybow1 7 ай бұрын

@michaelhill6451 a sample size of two is insignificant. I'm betting you're shooting Vortex scopes too. I've literally had a turret FALL OFF of a Vortex in under 10 shots. Take your rifle and drop it on its side from about a foot off the ground and shoot it and see what happens to your zero. That's nothing compared to the knocks a scope goes through on a backcountry hunt. I'm going to venture your rifles never see nothing more than going from the truck to the treesstand or shooting house. Come back when you've got something more than "my two scopes haven't failed". You should spend as much or more on your optic than you do on your rifle. Buying a good rifle and putting a cheap scope on it is handicapping the rifle. Like running regular unleaded in a drag car.

@HB-kp6rl 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting.

@5jjt 6 ай бұрын

Does first focal plane mean you don't have to use holdovers if there's no wind?

@ohms139 11 ай бұрын

I did this but way more to the extreme with the LSS XL chassis with the SRS stock, bolt and trigger upgrades, arca rail, and a Kreiger 26" barrel MTU profiled. Also used an Area419 hellfire brake and Atlas BT10 bipod.

@chrisgreenly9796 11 ай бұрын

If you are going to go that far, why not start with a better action, like a Tikka t3x?

@ohms139 11 ай бұрын

@@chrisgreenly9796 it was my first bolt gun I ever owned and didn't want to get rid of it . Also, in NYC it's a hassle to get anything taken off your permits. And... I like project guns.

@jasoncarr551 9 ай бұрын

Was the stock rifle broke in before showing the first group ?

@jeffmiller2433 11 ай бұрын

I have the XRS, it will make a difference over a cheap stock by just simply fitting your body more comfortably, plus the extra stiffness and weight will help. I would not hesitate to buy another, they are pricy though.

@slattscoo 11 ай бұрын

Were the lights blinking then turned green a level??

@kramed24 11 ай бұрын

Cool video

@dustinwhitrock1418 5 ай бұрын

Had this rifle with good scope in .243 and 5/8 group 100yrds and down to 1/2inch

@michaelg2641 10 ай бұрын

Does mdt chassis fit 6.5 predator w 22in barrel

@MrJose3600 7 ай бұрын

What muzzle brake did yall have

@TXRed1836 11 ай бұрын

Why no howa LA option on the xrs? I just went to the website to make a purchase and was let down.

@Lucas12v 6 ай бұрын

Interesting test. I would have preferred to see the stock rifle with the good scope vs upgraded with good scope though.

@atomicpsych0 8 ай бұрын

Will this stock fit the Ruger American ranch in 5.56?

@bison1638 10 ай бұрын

I want this for my ruger 308 predictor but I can’t find the actual chassis on there we set for the 308 variant

@Thepaintballinfool 9 ай бұрын

Can you do this with a savage axis

@becomeraptureready 11 ай бұрын

Guys, this test was bogus. What you should have done, before installing the chassis, is install the scope first. That way you would show the true improvement your parts make over the factory rifle. Good video though guys

@APRAYAY 8 ай бұрын

Just a small suggestion. Maybe in the description post the links to what upgrades you have done and where they can be purchased. I have just recently purchased a Ruger American Predator and am upgrading it almost exact according to the video. The only thing I’m torn on is the ESS vs Oryx chassis. On MDT website I haven’t figured out what action ESS chassis to show bc unlike oryx it doesn’t have just the Ruger SA option. And as a new shooter I want to insure everything is compatible and corrext

@richardoliver1468 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. After watching it, I am going to save up and get one of your chassis for my Savage Axis XP II 308 Win. I looked it up on your website, and I believe it is listed as the Savage SA. I hope that is correct.

@nunyabeeswax2575 11 ай бұрын

Get in contact via the website asking the Q if the FAQ section doesn't address it.

@GreatLakesLogger 9 ай бұрын

So basically scope and muzzle break were the important things. That's what I figured out on mine anyway. I still want to buy a good chassis for it at some point though, don't get me wrong. I am a little puzzled about only getting four rounds in the factory mag. Mine takes standard AR / m4 mags.

@K-bob_45 11 ай бұрын

Did you happen to chronograph that ammo from that gun?

@IHateYoutubeHandles615 11 ай бұрын

I'd like to see this same sequence done with a Ruger American Ranch bolt action in 5.56 and 7.62x39, showing not just the differences with accessories but also caliber vs. caliber. The 5.56 uses AR mags and the 7.62 uses Mini Thirty mags.

@topgunne12 11 ай бұрын

They could make the MDT for this take the 7.62 x 39 AR mags.

@jeff9062 11 ай бұрын

Why would you run that optic and chassis on a 7.62x39? That round don't have enough juice to get out to yardage.

@topgunne12 11 ай бұрын

@@jeff9062 Don't need to push it that far, just need a comparison. C'mon.

@sray2stay 11 ай бұрын

I like the video but if you're going to use a Ruger for matches wouldn't use the precision versions?

@godfreypay-yac8011 10 ай бұрын

what rifle can fit on that rifle chasy

@dariusnaderpour 6 ай бұрын

I have that rifle ! Where is the list of upgrades?

@kentuckywindage222 10 ай бұрын

I'm no professional but from my experience on a budget build, glass is where biggest money goes. Especially if you are handy with basic tools. Factory heavy barrel rifle, most are threaded now. A good muzzle device, (your choice). I run an Athlon Aries 4.5 x 27 x 50, Vortex 5 x 25 x 50 scope. Good 20 moa or like bedded base with like rings. A scope mount side level, tight lines are best for bubble. A swivel bipod. I ran one from Amazon out to 1200 yards for a bout 2 years without issue. Bedding, pillar bedding, partial bedding etc. on stock. Some may not need it. I Stiffen the forearm with an engine push rod and bedding material. Work, yes. Buying is easier. However, you do learn about somethings, of which may be you can't do some of this. So this is just an alternative for budget minded or folks who enjoy doing this type of thing. Nothing against MDT. Matter of fact I want a couple of the stock they are using for 2 of my home builds to try. I run one of their Aluminum rigs on my main setup as of now.

@juanislas4804 3 ай бұрын

Does you existing stock/chassis line up work with the Ruger American Gen 2?

@MDTTAC 3 ай бұрын

It should fit in our Ruger American SA inlets however, we have not been able to 100% test it yet. However, we have heard positive feedback from customers.

@Hammerback972 11 ай бұрын

And ppl say there are no clear pics of a sasquatch. Heres a video of him shooting a rifle!😂

@LedGuitar1218 11 ай бұрын

What turret tape is that?

@waynederby4684 8 ай бұрын

Would like to see you do the same testing on the Ruger American base in 30-06 and Barnes TSX 180g.. That would be really helpful to all of those who shoot the Really tried & True.....