Ruger PC Carbine Review: Part 5

Ruger PC Carbine Review: Part 5 - Range Tests

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6 жыл бұрын

In this part of my review I show range testing the new Ruger PC Carbine chambered in 9mm. Bottom line, this new firearm shot great! You can see the webpage portion of this review at www.gunsumerreports.com/review...

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@gd5126 5 жыл бұрын

This review was exactly what I was looking for. No hype, no sales pitch, just authentic data! Thank you!

@gunfreak9mm 5 жыл бұрын

Damn fine video. Since getting my Ruger carbine I have watched a plethora of reviews and you did an excellent job covering all aspects.

@nestormacaraniag8604 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review... great effort. One of the best videos I have seen so far. Your honest and professional opinion on the Ruger PC9 Carbine were based on facts and uncontested data. To me, you will never go wrong with that. I just purchased my first ever PC Carbine and it is all because of all the videos that you have put up on this amazing and popular rifle. Thank you to you sir.

@IceMan8123 4 жыл бұрын

Great review Sir. The most info I've seen on the PC9 yet.

@debo8514 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the effort in putting all of this together. I own one and I really like it. Fits me well and I’ve had no FTF or FTE problems. Accuracy for me as it is for you. FYI, it’s a blast switching between the 10/22 and the PC 9. Thanks again.

@hardybirch3630 5 жыл бұрын

Very thorough, informative and helpful. I sincerely appreciate that you covered just about all of the common sense variables and then shared the results. Thanks

@fallbangskid8304 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review and data collection. I just bought this rifle in part because of your review. Thank you!

@tomh7331 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent information. I appreciate all your time and effort in collecting the data. Thank you so much!

@somwrtlftur2367 6 жыл бұрын

I've had mine for about a month now and had no problems on 2 range trips. Very accurate with a scope and a red dot and virtually no recoil. I'm like you these days struggling with iron sights on anything because I just can't focus them anymore. Very fun gun to shoot with all my many Glock mags. Great video.

@centraltexassurvivorpreppe7750 5 жыл бұрын

I've already bought mine. But if I hadn't, this great bunch of reviews (I just watched them all) would have sold me!

@wrxs1781 5 жыл бұрын

Great review, thanks for putting in the time.

@peelreg Жыл бұрын

I have a PC9 on the way to me. This excellent review answered many of my questions.

@charlesglisson8127 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your excellent 5 part series on the Ruger PC carbine. I recently bought one for $476 with the threaded barrel. I think this will be a popular rifle. I hope you do additional videos on this rifle as aftermarket accessories become available.

@towelie4625 3 жыл бұрын

jeeze nice save

@AmericanXification 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a fierce wind.. I imagine those groups would shrink on a calm day. Your video was informative and enjoyable. I'm wanting a 9mm carbine and am interested in either the PC carbine or the cz scorpion with brace. Appreciate the video brother.

@davidb9323 5 жыл бұрын

What did you end up with? Did you consider proprietary mags vs glock?

@joeg4049 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this review. Great job. I have one backordered and can't wait to get it. I like all of the variations and combos you showed and the effect on groups, which was basically no effect and a good thing. I have two of the 10/22 takedowns and love those as well. These 9mm PCC guns are fun to shoot. I recently purchased a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen2 and it is also a fun gun for plinking. Thanks again.

@GunsumerReports 6 жыл бұрын

Joe, thanks for the feedback. I think you are going to love it.

@jonasaurasrex 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. Exactly what I needed, enough info to make the purchace

@frankgrillo8094 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! You've actually duplicated all that I've done- wish i had found this first ! 1 thing -- I've found after chronoing lots of ammo- IMI BLACK TIP & GOLD DOT +P , have givin me superb performance for defenseive applications

@ericdale5670 2 жыл бұрын

I am waiting on that same model to arrive from Buds'. UPS has it moving my way as we I type. Thanks so much for the comprehensive review and testing. I think I have made a good choice for my first PCC.

@sumosupremeking360 5 жыл бұрын

Good review you did a nice job

@jcalpha2717 3 жыл бұрын

I love the concept, the size, functionality, reliability and accuracy. The reviews are all gushing and glowing. NOW !! Tell me who has one ( in stock) that I can purchase.

@frankf7858 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks ill be picking mine up next week. Really can't wait.

@thomasmackay9264 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic job !!!! A lot better accuracy than other reviews did in review ! Will make a good close quarters defense rifle ! Camp and truck gun !

@Rwalt61 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about building an AR style PC carbine using something like an fm9 reciever but now I'm highly interested in a Ruger. I love the capability of using Glock magazines.

@somecrazyveteran 2 жыл бұрын

I have one that I upgraded the crap out of, it’s a tac driving beast.

@dansigmon1559 6 жыл бұрын

Great review. I am looking forward to getting one.

@GunsumerReports 6 жыл бұрын

I think you will love it. I'm surprised at how quickly I have come to admire a pistol caliber carbine.

@chrisgrace1489 5 жыл бұрын

Dan Sigmon I bought one 2 weeks ago you'll love it mine is awesome

@TheRogerhill1234 6 жыл бұрын

Just got done testing 9 kinds of sub sonic ammo in my Ruger 9mm carbine, suppressed. The ppu 158g ammo was one of the 4 quietest , and it is very quiet at the ear drum, with most of the sound being the bolt coming back. But the real separation was the accuracy at 50 yards, which was excellent. will be buy much for of this ammo. velocity was just under 1000 fps. Note: Keep your barrel screw tight, if you don't want the barrel jumping around.

@pleitrap7073 6 жыл бұрын

Relaying the brand of ammo used when scoring the targets was ok but for me bullet weight and pressure are a better indicator when matching rifling twist to potential of the target group size. just a thought...

@DaSmisker 3 жыл бұрын

Class leder, Great job!

@122Music1 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh. Shooting in a minor hurricane? This thing nails center out of the box. Loving mine.

@Billbobaker 5 жыл бұрын

I sure love mine.. my favorite plinker now.

@deanheeb8024 5 жыл бұрын

Great work great detail!

@mits_6131 5 жыл бұрын

I look forward to purchasing this rifle this May. I like the fact it takes Glock mags. Great video.

@drtreeson 4 жыл бұрын

Fine job good detailed review

@zeppafloyd 4 жыл бұрын

That was pretty darn thorough.

@jmount411 6 жыл бұрын

Your point of impact shift when attaching the suppressor could possibly be attributed to slight velocity gains also. The point of impact shift was slightly vertical of the original impacts unsuppressed. Sometimes for example when shooting 38 special and switching to 357 Magnum the point of impact shift is usually a shift in elevation due to the increased velocity of the projectile when shooting at farther ranges for pistol calibers such as 50 yards. I have seen some long range guns have slight velocity increased when the rifle is supressed vs unsuppressed. That's just one variable I could be wrong and it may well be another issue

@trenacook7694 Жыл бұрын

Darn skippy. Fine job ruger. Thanks for posting video.

@vincentj3093 4 жыл бұрын

By far the best review on KZfaq, very informative.Thank you. Just as soon as we’re allowed out again and the local gun shop can restock as they were overrun during this pandemic, I will pick one up. I will probably have to get two because my granddaughter is going to love ringing steel with this.

@slayer1472 4 жыл бұрын

couple questions...how many rounds total and did you have any issues with stove pipes, or failure to eject/extract? I have read a lot that around the 1000 round mark, problems develop

@robpetry84 4 жыл бұрын

Very good review. I don't know how I haven't seen your channel before. I watch this kind of content all the time. I guess the gun hating youtube algorithm is doing its (shitty) job. Subscribed.

@pikesticker 3 ай бұрын

I have a spare 3-9X Athlon BDC scope laying around that is calibrated based on a 1250fps MV. Zero'd at 50 yards the holdover subtensions are 75, 100, 125, and 150 yards. As soon as I get another set of rings I'm going to install it and then fine tune my reloaded ammo to exactly a 1250fps MV and see how well it performs on the marks. Could be interesting.

@jeffryrichardson9105 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with your findings 100%!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸

@christopheryniguez825 6 жыл бұрын

Suppressors and adding weight to front end of the barrel usually improves accuracy. Check out Johnnie's Reloading Bench hear on KZfaq. He clearly demonstrates this

@Paul-wq4qb 4 жыл бұрын

What is the name, make/model of that shooting bag/rest you had?

@philp411 6 жыл бұрын

Nice job! The only think I didn’t care for was the opening sound.

@humacao01 5 жыл бұрын

Thats country for ya!!!

@jonh9710 6 жыл бұрын

Those are $479 new in my neck of the woods but then some places you got gougers also selling them for $579

@makerofmanythings8447 6 жыл бұрын

I paid $475 out the door and got a 50 round drum mag for a Glock 17 for $58...REALLY FUN!!

@Drew4078 5 жыл бұрын

Virgle Phillips nice 👍! That’s a damn good deal.

@guerom1367 4 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly what i paid for mine at a gun show. Wanted the new version with the freefloat hanguard and adjustable stock but they wanted 700 for that one

@FastSloW-qt8xf 4 жыл бұрын

Thats good, i think they retail for like 650

@MoKeefus 3 жыл бұрын

I hope Ruger gave you a gift certificate or something. You probably sold as many rifles as an add in a magazine.

@garylloyd4465 5 жыл бұрын

I am confused. TulAmmo has a reputation for inaccuracy, and Critical Defense is is designed for close range. Given that every weapon is unique in harmonic characteristics, use a quality ammo to zero your weapon with either iron sights or an optic. Once adjusted as close as possible, then try other quality brands. Secondly, subsonic i anything under 1125 fps, so the Hornady ammo was subsonic also.

@doctorxring 6 жыл бұрын

Somewhat concerning to me is not the group size but that your point of impact of the center of of your groups changes among the 4 targets shot for each type of ammo. ?? (even after you found out about the thread protector)

@GunsumerReports 6 жыл бұрын

The shift in POI between the groups is due to me changing the recoil state of the rifle as I twisted it slightly in the Bulls Bag to line up on the target. Good observation on your part. I have seen this before when using this bag while shifting to various targets and not repositioning the bag slightly.

@cowboywoodard2569 4 ай бұрын

Great Video!! Like to see a group at 100 yds. Thanks again my friend.

@TheRogerhill1234 5 жыл бұрын

Barrel Moves. I can't get the gun to shoot in the same place without tightening the barrel nut way down. Shoots straight for awhile, then it starts getting all squirrely again

@webchez69 5 жыл бұрын

i dont see this gun as a target rifle... With the short barrel, I cant see the value of putting on a scope. I think a max of a red dot sight is for this gun...

@FastSloW-qt8xf 4 жыл бұрын

Could be a nice , cheap varmit gun. I could see a 1-4x on there. Still make good groundhog kills out past 100 yards

@FastSloW-qt8xf 4 жыл бұрын

But yeah id just put a dot on most likely

@IRONMAN-4LIFE 5 жыл бұрын

What king of scope rings?

@StuartKReilly 6 жыл бұрын

Did you ever try out cheap/midgrade brass? Like Winchester white box, 9mm NATO, the bulk remington stuff in the yellow boxes you see in places like Walmart and Academy? I believe more realistically its what I and others would be plinking in a fine gun like this

@StuartKReilly 6 жыл бұрын

Following up on this comment. I got mine yesterday. Ran some white box 9mm NATO. Boresighted a Bushnell TRS, got decent enough groups at 10-15 yards for my shaky hands. NO jams with G19 14rd Pmag, ONE FTF with the ETS 31rd stick. Chalking it up to the gun getting really dirty after all my shooting and the mag needing a break in period. The ETS has a super heavy spring I believe will soften with a few days loaded

@jimboslice1846 6 жыл бұрын

Just got mine yesterday. Planning to shoot with some white box! Thanks for your input

@Pollux95630 4 жыл бұрын

Just put 100 rounds of Winchester white box through my new PC9 this morning. Worked flawlessly. No jams, no misfires. Tight groups, and some perfect bullseyes at 50yds. Super fun little gun.

@johnburnett5377 4 жыл бұрын

I have this carbine in .40, and the Korean made mags don't work when full.

@themexican3278 6 жыл бұрын

How did it do with the steel case ammo?

@GunsumerReports 6 жыл бұрын

It shot great without any issues. I will be feeding much more through it and if I have any issues I will put out an update.

@themexican3278 6 жыл бұрын

GunsumerReports thank you for your input. I live in California and people are afraid of showing their AR’s . I’m looking to buy this Ruger 9mm carbine to take some shooting classes. Do you think this carbine will endure 3/4 hundred rounds in one day or couple thousand rounds in a year? I hit like on this video and I’m following your channel.

@GunsumerReports 6 жыл бұрын

Although I cannot speak to the "couple thousand rounds in a year" in a year yet, my limited data point is hundreds a day shouldn't be any issue. The carbine is built like a tank (my impression) and will most likely handle thousands of rounds easy with a little normal cleaning as needed.

@themexican3278 6 жыл бұрын

GunsumerReports sir thank you so much god bless you and your family and thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Genuine people like you are what makes this country great.

@jimmysapien9961 6 жыл бұрын

The Mexican I Agree

@ozpain1 5 жыл бұрын

Put about 200 to 300 rounds through mine and the dang takedown screws came loose with one even popping out!

@towelie4625 3 жыл бұрын

torque your Alan's with pliers or use lock tite.

@heinekenboy6901 6 жыл бұрын

great video mabe with a 18.5 in canon im sure tha accuracy will me better but ruger make them at 16 in

@Jose-fc5yd 5 жыл бұрын

You can tighten up your groups with a simple fix on the firearm.

@ManetInAEternum 5 жыл бұрын

You in Minnesota brother?? I just picked up one of these!

@guerom1367 4 жыл бұрын

I got a cheap cvlife bipod and scope for mine. Gonna shoot it with the iron sights a bit then put the scope on and hopefully somebody at the range can help me sight it. Lol

@zootedsuit 6 жыл бұрын

Beautiful property. I'm jealous 😎

@kevincumbie9318 6 жыл бұрын

It is a lot of work in the summer, but I love the place!

@jennifernichols3684 5 жыл бұрын

You did not shoot +p+ why not

@talljoe3359 4 жыл бұрын

Waiting on the mail man to bring an aftermarket extractor so that I can shoot 10 rounds in a row without 3 or 4 FTE's.

@philvogt7671 6 жыл бұрын

Put some 124grain NATO in a 32 round Glock mag... be a bad mammajamma

@kevinguthmiller8510 4 жыл бұрын

I'm kind of tired of hearing people, who choose to put these tests on youtube, make excuses about how they forget something in their setup or its unstable, or too much wind, or "maybe it was me", or what have you. Anyone have a link to a decent source for accuracy testing on the PC9? Perhaps shooting indoors on a stable platform with a zeroed scope. Essentially, so the variables are taken out and we, the viewers, can make informed decisions on ammo type.

@mikenelson3066 5 жыл бұрын

I've got a burris fast fire red dot on mine. My accuracy with the red dot mirrors your iron sight accuracy at 50 yds - poor!

@brianpartlow5530 5 жыл бұрын

I put a sig romeo on mine. My holes were touching at 50 yards. It was indoors, no wind, relaxed environment. I am totally satisfied with it.

@neonpaintsplash 6 жыл бұрын

I watched this while I pooped You're welcome:)

@rickrevoir1683 6 жыл бұрын

Audemosha I bet you poop blue !!

@humacao01 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.....lol

@grumman7772 4 жыл бұрын

I just buy this gun at my local gun shop

@plamenstoychev2158 6 жыл бұрын

Nice but I found some videos that report accuracy problems or trigger reset issues.

@justdjackson 6 жыл бұрын

All guns are going to have bad reviews though. I have an SR9C and I absolutely love it over some of the more pricier competitors. People have bad things to say about the SR9C as well. It all depends on what you are used to. Like most guns, I'm sure it has a break in period and you need to get used to the gun as well. Just my opinion. I get mine Friday. We shall see.

@irenemoran6137 6 жыл бұрын

3:00, it was that crappy ammo, never use that dirty, steelcase, berdan primed crap in anything but an AK or Mosin

@davidmcguire6043 5 жыл бұрын

I shoot it all the time. Hit my targets too. Only bad shooters blame the ammo.

@jg1007 3 жыл бұрын

His problem was not that he shot steel ammo. The problem is shooting it first, then moving to brass. That's a no no. The steel case and stuck on dirt in the barrel can cause the brass later to get stuck.

@calebchristensen900 6 жыл бұрын

I feel like this kind of looks like a reject weapon that didn’t catch on with police. Does anyone else see the upside of law enforcement having one of these in the patrol car instead of an AR? Hopefully they’ll make other caliber versions. Me personally I’d like a 357 magnum version

@gascheck8151 4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Christensen I agree .357 mag it would be, a run away success. I'm waiting.

@totljag1 6 жыл бұрын

25 yard zero for a 9 mm carbine , check a ballistics chart if u don’t believe me

@Skootsem 6 жыл бұрын

This carbine was designed for +P

@williamb2309 3 жыл бұрын

get a bench mount!! your free standing shooting sucks

@stevemiller7433 6 жыл бұрын

I finally saw one for sale at my gun shop. $900.00 ...used. No thanks. I only paid $599.00 for my Beretta CX4 carbine which is arguably a better firearm.

@nicknoland9704 6 жыл бұрын

Steve Miller - $900 used! My word... They should retail on average for $525 - $575 brand new! Something was wrong there.

@justdjackson 6 жыл бұрын

That's wild. Just paid $525 for mine today. Brand new.

@stevemiller7433 6 жыл бұрын

great!

@mastercheef12345 6 жыл бұрын

It was probably a used one from the 90's. They made a version of this rifle during the AWB mainly for the law enforcement market; "PC" actually stood for "Police carbine". By the mid 2000's, it was clear that most departments were opting for AR-15s so these rifles never really caught on and ruger discontinued it. Now, with the popularity of pistol caliber carbines, ruger has brought it back aimed primarliy at the civilian market. In fact, according to their catalog, the "PC" stands for "Pistol Caliber", not "Police Carbine". The old Police carbines can indeed be found for such over-inflated prices, but the pistol caliber carbines should be in stores here soon and for around $500.

@stevemiller7433 6 жыл бұрын

you may be right.