So rule is: roll out distance divided by carry distance equals number. 12 minus number equals club selection. Adjust the 12 to factor in green speed and uphill/downhill speed. Got it!

This has been the best information video on The Rule of 12 that I have seen on KZfaq!! Thank u.

Love how you explain it in simple terms. That is solid gold!! Thank you my friend!!!

Great video. Very succinct and packed full of nuance. Thank you.

GAME CHANGER!! I’ve recently changed from park courses to links here in Scotland and really struggling with my typical lofted chips around the green, the solution is obviously to stop using the lofted clubs due to the tighter lies but I’ve never been a fan of chip n runs. I’ve used the rule of 12 in the past but quickly gave up on it as I found it inaccurate but you have clearly shown on this video that you must adapt it to your environment, it’s so obvious now, thanks again Matt 👍

Great stuff, Matt. My go-to chipping (and often pitching) club is 9-iron. I've always liked to run the ball up to the hole, and early on I noticed that a mishit with the 9 (or any lower-lofted club) would almost always end up okay. In contrast, the bladed, low-bounce, high-lofted wedges that most players buy are, by design, unforgiving. Catch one a little fat or thin and you're chipping again. My #1 priority with any chip or pitch is that my next shot is a putt. These types of high-lofted wedges also require that you be able to read a lie very well and know how the ball will come out from different grasses and different lengths of grass. While I've learned to hit these clubs and those high, soft-landing pitches, they still present more risk than I like. I'm a 4 HCP and I still only break out a lofted wedge when it's absolutely necessary. And even then it's usually only a 52º wedge! Of course, I've practiced with the 9-iron for countless hours and so naturally I've gotten good at the 9-iron. Most players I see are using lob wedges around the green, and I guess that's okay. The ones who practice a lot get good with those, too. The wolf you feed is the one that gets bigger. But I would encourage beginning golfers, when they practice, to just throw down some balls and try chipping/pitching a variety of different clubs to a pin - playing around with opening or closing the face and varying ball position and seeing how the ball reacts. You can hit a 9-iron quite high. You can hit a low runner with a sand wedge. Whenever possible (i.e. when I won't be in anyone's way) I throw a handful of balls out randomly to different distances from a hole. Then I chip or pitch them with whatever club looks good for that shot (often...a 9-iron). I've found this type of practice to be much more fruitful - and more fun - than just banging the same shot to the same pin from the same place over and over.

Absolute genius! So glad I found this channel before my first ever game.

I was using this but never took into account the speed of the green!! Thank you buddy! Very good tutorial and video! 👍🏻

I love how I can just revisit this page. Such a gem.

Noticed this in my own game so much in the last few months, didn’t know the rule of twelve until I clicked on this video, but I’ve been progressively chipping with less and less loft and getting better and better results. It really takes a lot of factors out.

i mentioned a variation of this on one of your videos years ago.. long time viewer :) PW is 1:1 it will roll as far as you pitch the you add 3 yards per club so for the 5 yard pitch to 20 yard is PW 10 yards 9 is 13 8 is 16 7 is 19 yards. Uphill is 2 yards between clubs and downhill is 4 yards

I practice similar with a ratio based approach, per club. It's been super useful. Cool that there's an actual system.

Thanks so much for pointing out green speed differences being critical for this method. Quick check with roll out using a sand wedge on the practice green before a round to see if roll-out is less or more than the 1:1 ratio should be a quick trick to be able to adjust speed for the upcoming round; rather than having to use a Stimpmeter.

This works, have been trying at the chipping green today and it’s great… def need the adjustment for slow vs fast tried a few uphill and downhill chips. You inspired me to watch a few other videos after this about Paul Runyon he was an interesting character! The shot he pulled off in the pga championship against Sam Snead where he chipped over his ball on the putting green was unreal, they should bring back stymies 😂

This is very interesting & look forward to giving it a try. I'm been flying gap to lob wedge depending course greens but lately little inconsistent.

This is awesome!... Great job explaining all this. So simple, and effective. Definitely taking this to the course. 🤙🏼

This is always the best instruction with the reason why. Thank YOU :)

amazing! can't wait to practice this! Thank you!

This was such an interesting video to watch, well done guys😀.

Definitely going to fold this into my game. Great stuff playa

Paul Runyan did a video on the rule of Twelve. Nice to see you expand on the up hill and down hill factors in the technique . I've noticed practicing with the same golf balls I take out to golf course really helps with the feel . Consistency is helpful to achieve repeatable results. Thank you good video!

So informative, thanks for sharing!

Great lesson video. Thank you!

What a great way to take the guessing out of it....can't wait to try this on the chipping green! Once it quits snowing.....

Tried this the other day and worked great 👍

Can’t wait to try this! Good stuff

Nice video ty. Reminds me of a Judy Rankin article I read 20+ years ago I still kinda use… based on flag location…9 near. 7 center. 5 far. Same stroke every time using these 3 clubs. With stronger lofts today I use the pw-8-6! ⛳️😂

Great! Add this to the Short Game Series playlist.

I’ve been working with this concept as late and it’s brilliant for eliminating the unnecessary risk of duffing or thinning chips with the sand wedge (which seemed to be costing me 2-3 strokes per round). The green speed has to be considered and also the apex of different length shots because it’s higher on longer shots, which means a steeper landing angle, which means less roll out… and that’s for every club. Ive been chipping with 7 iron, 9 iron, and gap wedge at the practice greens and SW only when I have to AND the lie (nice chippy grass) allows for it. If not, then I must accept bogey and go past the hole. I’m starting to keep notes of the roll out numbers from different distances and different slopes for each club… it’s a lot! I do believe, however, that this will get me to the promised land.

One of the best chipping lesson...thank you so much brother

Very good points and where your scoring is key. Personally, I would use an 8i/9i or Pw and /or putter if on a level surface just outside the green for more direction/distance control. Only use a 56 wedge if height and short bounce is required. 👍

Great video. Something to think about: "your" ratios will also depend on the dynamic loft at impact. If your irons are game improvement clubs, they tend to be strong-lofted (i.e., a 9 iron has a traditional 8 iron loft) so you might have to go to the rule of 13. Also, you may need to use a more lofted club if you tend to de-loft the face by having more shaft lean at impact. Use the practice greens to work out your ratios and adjust the rule to fit your game.

awesome lesson. i made my own stimp meter by using 2 alignment rods and a small chunk of foam. i made 2 holes in the foam that are the width for the golf ball to roll down and the phone can sit on the edge of the foam just above the 30 inch line with enough room for the ball to sit right on the line. (* foam piece about 3 inches by 2 inches by an inch). then i made a marker mark at 30 inches on the rods. i use a free android level app, and the stimp is a standard measurement. 30 inches of roll at 20.5 degrees/10.5 inches. so you just lay the phone on the foam and raise it to 20.5 degrees and roll 3 balls. measure that and then roll 3 balls back the opposite way on the same line. the measurement in feet is the stimp of the green. keep up the great work!

Wow this is amazing. Will definitely try it

I had no idea about this rule for chipping. Love it!

This is brilliant, amazing content thank you!!! Love stuff like this 🔥🔥🔥

I use to use my SW all the time and because I was using it I was becoming good with it. About 2 years ago I had switched to using and 8 iron more around the green and was actually doing better, actually holing couple or coming very close. This is a good tip that I will try out this year once the courses open up

I've gotten pretty good at hitting my sand wedge all around the green, but I could definitely benefit from putting this concept into play.

Land 1/2 way to hole = SW 1/3 = PW 1/4 = 9I 1/5 = 8I 1/6 = 7I Same math, but this make more sense to my brain this way. It's a ratio of land to roll out distance with a club result. I boiled it down to fractions of how close to the hole you want to land. So, if you want to land 1/2 way to the hole you'd grab SW. Hope this helps.

always used this. find ealiest best part on the green and then just pace it like this 1:1 is lob wedge and so on, so basic but works beaut

This absolutely works, I kid you not. Mathematics never lies. You don't hit and hope when you have a formula, and it gives you exact focus on a landing spot. Super tip. I use rule of ten on the greens where I play.

That's amazing, can't wait to practice it.

Game changing stuff💪🎉

Completely makes sense. I tend to default to a club I’m comfortable with and it’s not the right choice. This rule of 12 will help me think more about the decision on what club to choose to get the most consistent result. :) love it. Thanks (and now your sister is all warmed up for her chipping lesson it appears..)

Great stuff playa - look forward to putting this into practice. Interesting addition then, is when looking at a green you can plan your miss more easily i.e. for the spot on the fringe where this chip style will work...and try harder to avoid lobbing over bunkers!

This is excellent! Both the calculation tips AND the awesome dancing in the background starting at 10:25

Great Vedio, Thanks for sharing valuable info. Cheers

Thanks much. You explained it so well.

Great video!! I love the little “cuts” in film as the high intense maths is confirmed!!

Such a great video. I practiced this today and my dispersion around the cup was much tighter. Once I got the feel, 1/3 of the chips ended within a foot of the cup. Thank you!

Love the moves in the background!

love this!!!

Very good instruction, no fancy talk but right to the points. Thank you very much .

T-ski in the background is hilarious!!!😂😂😂

Great timing Chief. Been drilling the shot game lately. Needed something to think on more than greater loft less roll out. Teaski dancing- Wadda life

Love your sister in the background over the last two mins !! Looks like they are practicing for the instructional video on stretching before golf!

So unbelievably simple it has to work. Thank you.

great tip!

Great video this is very interesting I will start using some of these tricks

I've been using this for a few years... it works! There are a couple of additional thoughts besides green speed and up or down breaks. The lie, how you feel, confidence level, etc. Some people teach or advocate using one club around the greens...not me. I think that anyone with a mid handicap or lower has hit enough balls to use a club "for something it may not be traditionally for", like using a 6 or 7 to go twenty yards.

Hi Playa.. I took Big Dog's expensive lesson to the range.. every shot like butter (almost) fantastic!. (I'm talking about the right hip back etc. Not this video as such) thanks baus

You are a mad genius in waddaplayer labcoat and bucket hat. To misquote Optimis Prime ... Sidekick...roll out. You're transforming golf

Never heard of this before but it does look like it works and makes sense!!

Great Explanation and Execution!

Leaned a lot from this guy 👍

I learned from Eddie Merrins to use a putting stroke to take out the variable of distance. Your guy was using so many different levels of power. A putting stroke with a choked down 5, 6 or 7 iron proved most consistent for me.

First time I've ever heard of this but this looks very interesting. I'm definitely going to try it out. Seems simple enough. thanks for this video.

Kevin and Perry go large at the golf course 😎😆 cool video. Gonna use it 👍🏻

Can highly recommend this method - have been using it myself for a couple of years and get up-and-down most times. I had to work out the green speed through trial-and-error. My club displays the stimp speed for the day on the practice green and I have a little chart in my scorecard holder showing all of the club/carry/role for each stimp speed - makes the working out way quicker (and actually speeds up play because you;lre making fewer putts 👍🏼

I am a Hdcp 9, never heard of this but I will use it as my short game sucks 😄

Awesome video Matt. I haven’t struggled too much with my chipping but find I’m over reliant on my SW and 60 irrespective of lie and green speed. This definitely makes life easier and allows for a greater margin of error

Brilliant! 💪

great video matey

This is great. Few thoughts for myself: I think I automatically carry my chips 1/3 of the distance to get me near the hole. That's using a PW. If I don't have the green to do this, I switch to a SW. For uphill chips, I tend to use a slightly longer club. For downhill, I use a SW. Now that I've watched this, I think I will just chip for warm-ups rather than spend time putting. Then I'll use my PW and mark where it lands and where it rolls out to. If it doesn't roll the rest of the 2/3, I'll switch to a 9 iron. If it goes too long, I'll switch the SW. Basically saying, you can calibrate a reliable method with a chip over a putt.

I’ve used this rule for 20+ years and what is nice is if you don’t like to practice, you have something. Now rule of 12 can be rule of 11 or rule of 14 depending on green speeds. Also the number of steps is your steps as its relative to the equation. I use a similar rule for putting based on steps to hole +/- same backstroke in inches and the equation changes based on green speed.

Very cool. I've never heard of this before!

I think this Rule would be better used to find your landing spot if you know you like to chip with, say, a PW. Can use the formula to find your spot! My previous question about different strengths in loft still stands…

Great video

Great instructional video guys! Much appreciated. Can you let me know if the landing spot always (or at least usually) about a yard or two onto the green regardless of where the stick is? Cheers!

Very interested to try this after winter hibernation since chipping is the weakest part of my game right now. How does a gap wedge or lob wedge fit in this sytem? Are they a 10.5 and 11.5 wedge? Or do I just ignore those clubs? I'm also curious the upper limit of distance for the usefulness of this rule. Will a SW chip that carries 8 yards really roll 8 yards? A chip off the fairway could spin and roll less. Will a 7-iron that carries 8 yards and roll 40 reliably?

10:24 breakdancing and chipping lessons. All in one!

This flat out works. Learned it a few years ago and the guys I play with can’t believe how close I chip it. Funny thing though, when I explain the method they still pull sand wedge and leave it 10 feet short.

Will be using this next time out

Awesome video, can you suggest a quick way to judge green speed if we don't own a stimpmeter? I understand early in the morning green will be slower with dew but is there a to get a general idea on the practice green prior to our round? Thank you.

Off topic question, what location is this filmed at? Looks beautiful. I think I'm going to try this method, it seems promising. Thanks.

Been using rule of 12 for a while now. Club adjustment is dependent on green speed and slope. I stay w 12 and adjust after calc

i still have paul runyan's short game book from the 70's' it's a gem. thnx for the info.

gonna try this. kinda dope.

Great video sir - loving the content as usual. Quick question - how is the best way to understand the speed of the green when on the course? It might be a tricky question to answer, hoping you or someone in the chat can give some guidance. Happy golfing playas!

Gidday... What courses are you doing your KZfaq video's on?? Tks

My buddy from Birmingham taught me this back in 2011. Definitely helped my game then.

Love the video. Do you include a gap wedge in this system?

🤯🤯🤯 I love this idea!

Very well done.

can't wait to go practice this

I’m a HUGE Paul Runyan fan and the reason that I bump everything around the green….I usually only take SW or 8iron when I’m close to the green….after watching this im gonna focus more on landing area and paying attention to roll out…thx for simplifying the rule for me…looking forward to playing golf with you 1 day

Love the break dancer in the back....10:23.

Now incorporate the same thought but in putting. Distance to the hole divide by 2 for slow greens (8 or 9), divide by 3 on medium greens (10-11), divide by 4 on fast greens (12 and above). If you are putting down hill then divide your distance by 2 to start and then apply the formula. I find uphill putts formula is always treated as a slow green (8 or 9).

Wow thank you! as a first year and only two months in this is amazing info. Lets get my 108 down to 80.