The Mystery of Alberto Salazar

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RunnerBoi

RunnerBoi

Күн бұрын

Arguably the world's best marathoner in the early '80's, a man retires and picks up a relatively small coaching gig, only to then kickstart what would be widely known as the new mecca of distance running success. Following a series of controversial outings however, his career and team would ultimately crumble, and the traces he and his athletes left behind are nothing short of damning.
Disclaimer: All views outside of the facts provided by USADA and the CAS are merely speculation and should not be viewed as fact.
Timestamps:
Intro 0:00
Athletic Beginnings 2:18
The Fall From Grace 7:21
The Nike Oregon Project 11:31
The Documentary 15:58
The Downfall 25:02
Steve 34:10
Mo 39:05
Mary 45:06
Kara 50:17
Galen 54:40
Alberto 1:00:17
Bonus 1:10:03
Overview 1:14:29
Conclusion/Outro 1:18:31
Special thank you to my patrons:
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Joseph Quintana
Liam O'Leary
Charlie Strausser
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David Fletcher
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Also special thanks to Heade with help fact-checking/providing resources, and Jonathan Gault with providing resources as well.

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@RunnerBoi
@RunnerBoi 6 ай бұрын
Edit: I've had a couple people say they're having a hard time hearing 30:17. It seems to work fine with headphones listening back rn, but non-headphone users and others may have issues. Here's the (rough) transcription in case others are having trouble: "Do the people think if I cheat I don't get tested? I almost (went?) 6 months, or 5 weeks I'm running PB and world record in Monaco, amazing time in Eugene. You can test me every single day. *Every* single day. I believe in clean sport. I'm always clean. I will be clean. I believe in Oregon project also they work hard, just multi-talent(?) all the athletes. I believe Alberto had been... since I saw him Alberto, he work really hard and that is what I know."
@nc8186
@nc8186 4 ай бұрын
They just arent used to accents 😭😭
@TPJH850
@TPJH850 4 ай бұрын
I started watching this on my TV and then switched to my phone after that part of the video and wondered why it sounded off 😂
@sleepyjoe8908
@sleepyjoe8908 4 ай бұрын
Stopped watching as soon as you started peddling that woke “women are innocent victims that I secretly want to grape” narrative. You are 100% vaxxed.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 ай бұрын
​@@nc8186 It just sounded like tape rewinding when I played it.
@fishflake1209
@fishflake1209 6 ай бұрын
There is one specific incident that sticks out to me as the “dam starting to break” moment for Alberto Salazar; one that, since it isn’t directly related to the doping and abuse allegations around NOP, wasn’t touched on at all in this video. Gabriele Grunewald, who had only recently returned to competition after cancer treatment, finished first in the women’s 3000 meters at the 2014 U.S. indoor nationals. Shortly after the race, though, Grunewald was disqualified for contact between her and second-place finisher Jordan Hasay, an NOP athlete in her first championship meet as a professional. Judges failed to notice anything more than the usual jostling that comes with pack running on a tight track, and broadcast footage also didn’t reveal any foul worthy of Grunewald’s disqualification. Alberto Salazar simply bullied his way up the USATF hierarchy until he found someone willing to give the race to his new star - Nike’s new star - who was entitled to the hardware. The resulting outcry was so negative against the USATF, and Salazar in particular, that Grunewald was reinstated as the winner two days later. Alberto Salazar’s actions to rob Gabriele Grunewald of her rightful championship, simply because his athletes had to win at any cost, looks even more monstrous after Grunewald’s death in 2019 after her cancer returned. Prior to this incident, the attitude in the track community was essentially, “you can’t argue with the results;” after this, Salazar was no longer untouchable.
@bats1945
@bats1945 6 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the many hours you put into this channel, I imagine this one took quite a lot of work to put together. Your vids are so high quality and really entertaining, thank you.
@kennethlandau5396
@kennethlandau5396 4 ай бұрын
Hours? Months
@tundra77
@tundra77 6 ай бұрын
as a runner myself, I always knew about Salazar and his whole doping regime. However, this video goes into such a depth I never would have thought I could find in video format. So happy you make high quality content like this. Feels like it’s a televised documentary
@AJT127
@AJT127 6 ай бұрын
Saw the length of the video and went "yeah I'm not watching that" then clicked on it anyway and ended up watching the entire thing. Nice vid lol
@rumblerumble2276
@rumblerumble2276 3 ай бұрын
Same!
@user-fp5co6qn7h
@user-fp5co6qn7h 6 ай бұрын
I’ve literally been waiting for someone like this. I recently did a speech for my college communication class about the career of Alberto Salazar and I realized how little public information there is about him aside from his SA allegations and his running. He basically disappeared after all this. This video would have saved me so much research😭
@achillesshui6888
@achillesshui6888 6 ай бұрын
best running channel on yt
@blastedpotato
@blastedpotato 6 ай бұрын
Yo what’s good Achilles
@achillesshui6888
@achillesshui6888 6 ай бұрын
yo my boi from strava
@harveydean7952
@harveydean7952 5 ай бұрын
Mo Farrah's relationship with Salazar goes pretty much unscrutinised here in the UK. Farrah's form dropped massively when he parted ways with Salazar which I dont think is a coincidence.
@martynhanson
@martynhanson 5 ай бұрын
That's why in the UK they ignore AS as you then have to mention MF. What I do believe is if NOP had been Russian the IAAF would have gone after them big time with all guns blazing. I don't watch sport anymore as I think doping is rife. Don't forget Lance Armstrong used to boast he was the most tested man. I think the testing in a lot of these sports is sub standard.
@squiglemcsquigle8414
@squiglemcsquigle8414 5 ай бұрын
​@martynhanson in atheltics yeah there isnt nearly enough testing. Cycling at world tour level thats pretty damn clean these days. People are getting suspended even for non banned substances
@trevorwillis1729
@trevorwillis1729 5 ай бұрын
Ya, because he stopped coaching him. Simple. Lol.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 ай бұрын
Really? I remember following the creator of Special 1 TV, and "Jose" went after it pretty hard.
@beatenbytheclown
@beatenbytheclown 3 ай бұрын
I started following cycling in the late 90s and after a honeymoon period where I was very innocent to what was actually going on I started to realize that the entire sport was rife with doping. By the time Armstrong came along I knew enough not to fall for the yellow wristbands and media fawning. Around the time he announced he was coming out of retirement a keen cyclist friend and I were out with a mutual friend who didn’t follow the sport much. He asked us if we thought Lance used PEDs, my friend replied instantly ‘I have no proof but I’d stake my life on the fact that he doped’. Why am I talking about this here? Because I pretty much feel the same way about Farah. Not with as high a conviction as with Armstrong but nonetheless if I was forced to stake my life on whether Farah was clean when he was winning Olympic and World Championship medals, I’d say we wasn’t. One of the biggest red flags in sports is when an athlete shows sudden and large improvements in performance past the early years in their career. I remember when Michelle Smith won 3 golds and a bronze in 1996 in her late twenties having been a mid tier European level swimmer never mind Olympic champion prior, it immediately raised suspicions. Yet Farah went from being eliminated in the 5000m heats in 2008 at the age of 25 to 7th at the worlds a year later followed by World Champion in 2011. Not a single UK commentator or pundit raised an eyebrow. You have the likes of Cram and Foster not containing their disbelief when commentating on Ayana destroying the 10,000m world record at the Rio Olympics, and their excoriating of Dwain Chambers after he admitted to doping, yet they pretty much bowed in worship to Farah. The double standards and level of hypocrisy when it comes to the UK athletics media made me lose interest in the sport. Farah claimed not to have known a Kenyan coach who was found guilty of blood doping his athletes yet mentioned him in his autobiography years previously. Known association with coaches who have been found guilty of doping, another red flag for you. I know none of this is proof but it starts to look very much like all the issues that dogged Armstrong for years before he actually fessed up. Not that I think that will happen with Farah. He’ll keep quiet, keep his knighthood and continue to have is ass kissed by the likes of Steve Cram.
@virtualpilgrim8645
@virtualpilgrim8645 6 ай бұрын
I used to run a lot on the Amazon sawdust trail in Eugene OR near 27th Ave and Amazon Parkway. A couple of times I saw Alberto running in my direction towards me and he was staring ahead of himself 10 yards at the ground. He appeared very focused. After he won his famous race, he opened a restaurant near 5th and Willamette which was a converted train car. He was then known as Alberto Salad Bar.
@gatomedia
@gatomedia 6 ай бұрын
Excellent piece of journalism. Very well researched and put together! The best documentary on this topic I’ve seen. Keep up the great work.
@grantkoehnen2114
@grantkoehnen2114 6 ай бұрын
great job on the documentary. It’s crazy to see that all of those athletes that took his side aren’t competing at the same level anymore.
@igloozoo3771
@igloozoo3771 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, but Sifan Hassan is still running well.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 ай бұрын
Well, if they suddenly fell off (Engels some seem to be an exception) after being forced to cut ties with a coach suspending for doping, it definitely doesn't make anyone involved look any more innocent, does it?
@igloozoo3771
@igloozoo3771 3 ай бұрын
@@wvu05 Sad that Jordan Hasay hasn't been able to run well if I am not mistaken.
@nro337
@nro337 6 ай бұрын
Amazing work covering this one. What a ride to tell
@Pearsondylan444
@Pearsondylan444 6 ай бұрын
Genuinely an amazing video and definitely one of my favorites and kept me engaged the whole time
@brianbaker5757
@brianbaker5757 6 ай бұрын
Death grips in the intro music? This video gonna be fire
@davidtydeman1434
@davidtydeman1434 6 ай бұрын
This is the most comprehensive documentary on this topic 👏
@patricktflowers11317
@patricktflowers11317 4 ай бұрын
This is an incredible documentary, was a very enjoyable and interesting watch. Keep doing your thing bro!
@Samuel-qi7ln
@Samuel-qi7ln 6 ай бұрын
Great content, as always.
@merr___7579
@merr___7579 6 ай бұрын
This channels content is mind blowing good.
@grashoprsmith
@grashoprsmith 6 ай бұрын
crazy good doc! I don't even follow track and field, but this was a great watch. THANKS!
@stevestarr9769
@stevestarr9769 5 ай бұрын
When I was 22, he was my hero. Now that I'm 62, he's a zero.
@statictech7
@statictech7 6 ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Very informative.
@bentylecote9759
@bentylecote9759 6 ай бұрын
you deserve a netflix documentary this was so well made
@Hammy1TV
@Hammy1TV 5 ай бұрын
He was caught cheating as a coach for The Oregon Project and now I suspect he cheated when he was a runner too back in the 80s
@trevorwillis1729
@trevorwillis1729 5 ай бұрын
false.
@MONROE711
@MONROE711 6 ай бұрын
Epic video, keep up the great work!
@quackymacky
@quackymacky 6 ай бұрын
This is is gonna be good
@agame5998
@agame5998 6 ай бұрын
Great work once again 👏👏👏
@tizioincognito.3330
@tizioincognito.3330 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video as a gift for Christmas.❤ You are the best.
@marypagones6073
@marypagones6073 6 ай бұрын
A documentary I've been longing for dropping on Christmas! Your channel is one of the best, most informative channels on KZfaq, full stop! You reference it in your video, but I would chime in to also check out the 2006 book Duel in the Sun, about Salazar's race with Dick Beardsley at the Boston Marathon. When he was read the last rites at the Falmouth Road race, his father (who kept a crapload of guns in the house and had anticommunist anti-Castro revolutionaries coming over at all house) actually used tongue depressors to make the sign of the cross. During the "duel" he only drank like 2 sips of water during the hot race, which some people think may have had a role in his mysterious fatigue and performance decline for years after. He even made a religious pilgrimage to get his running ability back. Even before all the drugging stuff in the video, he was just a batshit crazy character.
@nathanplant9893
@nathanplant9893 6 ай бұрын
your videos are so well made bro. you're like the Jmxyhighroller (NBA videos) of the running world.
@brendanward9923
@brendanward9923 6 ай бұрын
Great work!
@billa8083
@billa8083 5 ай бұрын
Best vibes yet 🎉
@Robert_McGarry_Poems
@Robert_McGarry_Poems 6 ай бұрын
The Sifan audio is corrupted... Just a heads up. @ 30:00 ish ...
@stevenkicinski9619
@stevenkicinski9619 5 ай бұрын
Regarding the administration of L-Carnitine, please don’t use the terms infusion and injection interchangeably. These are different modes of administration.
@brinka7918
@brinka7918 3 ай бұрын
can u explain?
@stevenkicinski9619
@stevenkicinski9619 3 ай бұрын
Infusions are typically a continuous supply administered through an IV directly into a vascular structure. An injection is more typically intramuscular or subcutaneous. Kinda semantics, but it confused me.
@runkaiserrun7435
@runkaiserrun7435 6 ай бұрын
These just get better and better man! Keep it up!
@akiranova8641
@akiranova8641 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@yaboi3702
@yaboi3702 6 ай бұрын
so awesome for the deathgrips intro
@makeniek3853
@makeniek3853 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen such report. Thank you…
@bryanryder7196
@bryanryder7196 6 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is there is probably still a laundry list of stuff we still don’t know about this entire saga
@ryanprasad2090
@ryanprasad2090 6 ай бұрын
Badass documentary! Although I do kind of wish Alberto would chime in here.
@A.I_Adri
@A.I_Adri 6 ай бұрын
already know this is gonna be good
@ElmerLin
@ElmerLin 6 ай бұрын
"It's a logical fallacy to conclude any of them were clean in the end" By extension of this logic, their competitors must also not be clean given how close the performances are? Unnatural vs natural has a grey overlapping area for sure, but at the absolute elite level, i'm not so sure.
@Bigern2998
@Bigern2998 6 ай бұрын
Great point!
@videos-gl2qq
@videos-gl2qq 6 ай бұрын
imagine what more lucrative sports are doing w/ less testing? Futbol, Football, Basketball, Tennis, Baseball all of them. Seeing some star athletes go multiple generations w/ no drop off.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
Rupp clearly _has_ worked hard and most definitely _has_ incredible talent. I was running in college and I was in a race that Rupp won, and had set a very fast (for me) personal best. As I was cooling down we passed by the track that was on the outermost edge of the race course and there was Salazar putting Rupp, who had just demolished the pretty competitive field, through some repeats. As I said, I was in the running scene of the Portland Metro from 2006 to 2010 and even back then there was always serious speculation about Salazar and the team, especially with the very unorthodox relationship between Salazar and Rupp. On top of that I heard from multiple first hand sources that Salazar is a real jerk. So it came as no surprise when the female athletes started lodging serious allegations of abuse and misconduct.
@chasewade6482
@chasewade6482 6 ай бұрын
You and I ran in the same era. Everything you are saying is 100% accurate. I saw Alberto at the 2008 trials. Just walked by. I said “hi” and he kind of just glared at me… like dude… Galen was a nice guy. And I do believe that’s genuine. It’s just super foggy how his coach is a busted cheater but such a decorated NCAA guy and an Olympic medalist didn’t get busted… weird…
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Wanted to note though: the past tense of “seek” is “sought” not “seeked.” Now that I’ve finished the video, there are many polysyllabic words that you don’t know the definition to; it’s great that you seem to be attempting to improve your video with these words, but you ought to check the definitions of those you don’t know with absolute certainty.
@anthonylarson7919
@anthonylarson7919 3 ай бұрын
colon and semi colon in the same sentence....run on.
@kenhalal375
@kenhalal375 6 ай бұрын
I was at the UofO in 1980 and 1981 when Salazar was there doing some post graduate work and of course training. I was there when we won his first NYC marathon and I believe they gave him a new car (Volkswagon Rabbit?). I was a junior and was a walk-on to their cross country team in 1980. To this day I never understood why Eugene was the running mecca of the USA. The weather was deplorable and coach Dellinger was forever absent. 90% of our training was done in isolation. While I was never introduced to Alberto and I don't recall ever training with him I would quite often see him training on the roads all alone. At some point Carey Pinkowski arrived and Rudy Chapa was trying a comeback from an injury he suffered the prior year. During the track season of 1981 Salazar and Pinkowsi would do intervals sessions together. I couldn't help but wonder how they could turn sub 2 minute 800m intervals like it was nothing. A few times I saw Alberto running with strange headgear and a backpack. I will just say he was one strange dude to be around. He was clumsy and awkward. I was always wondering what separated them from the rest of us. Was it training, nutrition, genetics or did they have some secret they kept between themselves? I remember the blood doping from the '72 and '76 games suspected by Lasse Viren and just thought “Yeah, that must be the secret”. I felt so bad for Rudy Chapa though. He gained so much weight during his recovery from injury. It was good to just be able to hang with him on the interval sessions even though he was a former shadow of himself the year before. I don't believe TRT in itself is a huge performance enhancer for young male athletes. When used regularly your natural testosterone production will be reduced as your body trys to stay in homeostasis. Sure, maybe under heavy training loads and stress the natural T is reduced so maybe being on a regulated dose of TRT can smooth out those valleys. Recovery would definitely be improved. There are other ways to accomplish this more naturally with things like Enclomiphene/androxal. Obviously TRT would actually be more beneficial for women than men. The real advantage from PED's come in with the blood builders. Why sleep at altitude with the side effects when you can just take EPO and sleep in a normal bed at sea level? I've not read Kara Goucher's book and just maybe I'll add it to my list. I remember watching her compete, her pregnancy and a short bit about her after childbirth. I was more interested in her charisma and such than as an athlete. Her story of the massages just don't quite add up for me. Not to say that it could not have happened. First, I've never had a massage from my coaches. Especially one of the caliber of Alberto Salazar. This is what trained professional massage therapists are for. You are in the best and most expensive training program in the world where weekly massage by a professional masseuse aught to be the norm. If those sort of massages happened they were consensual. What athlete would not jump off the table horrified with what had just happened? And then to come back for more? I'm not quite buying those stories. But I do believe Kara was abused in other ways. I've done a bit of coaching in my life and it's fair enough to say female athletes are a breed of their own. You cannot treat them like the male athletes. It can be extremely challenging. But that's where perhaps sports psychologist are used? In summary, I agree with your assessment and summary of Alberto Salazar. Whenever there is huge amounts of money involved there will be those self serving individuals that will entertain the conflict of interest and cheat. But since none of his athletes ever tested positive you see just how scientific and exact the project was. Without Nike this would have been impossible. In sharp contrast whatever happened to the Nike/Chapa business relationship? Maybe Rudy Chapa had too much integrity and wouldn't play in their sandbox any further? After I left running behind I became a competitive amateur cyclist. You would not believe the number of masters athletes using PED's over the age of 40 and even 50. It's not like you're ever going to get a professional contract at the age. BTW: It's an entirely different story involving Carey Pinkowsi, Rudy Chapa, Tim Keogh and their coach Dan Candiano at the 1974 Indiana State Cross Country High School Meet. Rudy Chapa being the only one to apologize for that debacle.
@insiderugbywithmark
@insiderugbywithmark 5 ай бұрын
Interesting read, let me share, Masters athletes cheat because of EGO, not because of sponsorship dollars. The human species is flawed in so many ways, and this doesnt reseed just because you get older. In fact, it probably gets worse as you try to hang onto something that resembles your youth.
@kenhalal375
@kenhalal375 5 ай бұрын
@@insiderugbywithmark I tend to agree. There was definitely a crossing point for me in late 40's or early 50's when I was searching for ways to continue to compete at a level I was accustomed to. Eventually though I had to just let it go. I'm currently reading Kara Goucher's book "The Longest Race". Brings back a lot of bitter/sweet memories. But it has motivated me to get more consistent with my workouts.
@EightFrancs
@EightFrancs 3 ай бұрын
​@@kenhalal375thank you for writing all of that information. Genuinely interesting to read.
@Boatyboat420
@Boatyboat420 20 күн бұрын
This is a pretty disgusting comment and I hope you read more about Larry Nassar and sexual assault before assuming what a reaction would be and projecting your own experience onto someone else’s. You don’t actually even know this man, who has been accused of other impropriety, and yet your instinct is to imply Kara is a liar
@kenhalal375
@kenhalal375 19 күн бұрын
@@Boatyboat420 I think you will see a comment down further where I’ve corrected my position on this after reading Kara’s book.
@jessesutich6688
@jessesutich6688 3 ай бұрын
Excellent use of Death grips! Makes for such an engaging buildup
@ricardo1000821
@ricardo1000821 6 ай бұрын
great work, who is the athlete at 1:23:00 ?
@martydobbins5071
@martydobbins5071 6 ай бұрын
Jessica Hull
@ScotMctominay-ro1cf
@ScotMctominay-ro1cf 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant and I love you that you call out all the cheats and Paul Kemp’s BS documentary .
@abdeljadan553
@abdeljadan553 5 ай бұрын
Kara Goucher’s book was surprisingly good. I recommend it if you haven’t read it.
@ivanterrible7362
@ivanterrible7362 18 сағат бұрын
He was an incredible athlete and an uncredible human being. I am glad to be a mid-pack runner with integrity.
@BurnerZiegler
@BurnerZiegler 6 ай бұрын
Death Grips for the intro is sick
@thekestrel9290
@thekestrel9290 2 ай бұрын
Excellent choice using the Pikmin 2 rest level music for a few sections! I approve 👍
@Joshy-
@Joshy- 6 ай бұрын
oh my god i was gonna hold off on commenting until i watched the whole video but the death grips intro duuude
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
1:00:47 my collegiate coach was in the professional running scene at the height of Salazar’s career and back then, many people thought that Salazar was doping.
@squiglemcsquigle8414
@squiglemcsquigle8414 5 ай бұрын
I have never heard the comrades marathon being pronounced so badly
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 5 ай бұрын
That was really great. Much appreciated for your hardwork. I also hope they don't sue you.
@aroundandround
@aroundandround 6 ай бұрын
The past tense of seek is sought, not “seeked”.
@JackFlash771
@JackFlash771 2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this video, but the speculation about athletes improving "too quickly" and therefore probably doping seems unfair. Athletes progress at different rates, with runners often hitting plateaus and then breaking through.
@thomasollinger7922
@thomasollinger7922 5 ай бұрын
Terrific presentation, but as in cycling, anytime you have a scandalous coach you don't have to look very far to find others just as scandalous. Reference: Dr Ferrari in cycling. I pro cycling almost every team had a mad scientist behind them.
@bigjohn2811
@bigjohn2811 6 ай бұрын
Henry Rono was an unbelievable runner, but he was quite a bit older like many of the African runners going US colleges in the 1970s. Henry was about 5 and 1/2 years older than Salazar, so it's no surprise a 27 year old beating a 20 year old in the 1979 10k NCAA championship.
@williamadkins6894
@williamadkins6894 6 ай бұрын
RunnerBoi, I took the asthma medication that Rupp started taking when he was 16 (my asthma was extreme at the time), although I don't know if it would help performance wise but I will say that it was very strong when I took it and my body could hardly handle it (though I was younger when I took it temporarily). Because it is very strong, if your body can handle the side effects, I cannot even imagine the benefits. Makes sense since it is literally a steroid.
@KamiaTwin012
@KamiaTwin012 6 ай бұрын
It’s a corticosteroid, not an anabolic steroid. Very different.
@williamadkins6894
@williamadkins6894 6 ай бұрын
@@KamiaTwin012 It doesn't have to be an anabolic steroid to still benefit you. Obviously I wouldn't take an anabolic to help with asthma.
@ak8990
@ak8990 6 ай бұрын
I feel for asthma patients it’s different. Asthmatics are running with less access to lung capacity due to their asthma. An inhaler just helps open their lungs back to normal standards. If there is any benefit, anti inflammatory and increased glucose in blood stream, it’s minimal to the overall just evening the playing field for asthmatics and normal athletes. Having said that, I’m not talking about those taking it who doesn’t really need it.
@harveydean7952
@harveydean7952 5 ай бұрын
The boxer Billy Joe Saunders was sanctioned for using asthma medication too.
@TongueOfCrow
@TongueOfCrow 5 ай бұрын
I started watching and heard the guitar track in the background and thought to myself, “there’s no way this is Beware right now…” hahaha
@brinka7918
@brinka7918 3 ай бұрын
couldn’t care less about running but i love stuff like this
@martinlevenson3583
@martinlevenson3583 5 ай бұрын
Why ruin great film clips with way too many graphics on the screen?
@sergelu
@sergelu 6 ай бұрын
So, Mo Farah, the very best runner coached by Salazar, he did nothing wrong… makes you wonder
@chasewade6482
@chasewade6482 6 ай бұрын
I was in Eugene for the full two weeks of the 2008 Olympic Trials. It’s amazing how small that community was with the pros out and about. I remember this underlying rumor going on the entire time of “Alberto and his team cheats”. None of this was shocking when it came out. What’s shocking is no runner was ever busted. Thank god for Steve Magness blowing the whistle.
@fasseupaula
@fasseupaula 6 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Tobias Wolfson
@michaeldouma5401
@michaeldouma5401 6 ай бұрын
Why does the narrator raise his voice at the end of every sentence?
@tabstabs1204
@tabstabs1204 3 ай бұрын
We can't hear anything at 30'15 with Sifan Hassan.
@MrTrack412
@MrTrack412 5 ай бұрын
I think that insignia on the upper left corner of their shirts says it all!
@Price_Drawz5k
@Price_Drawz5k 6 ай бұрын
I always wondered why it has seemed like Galen hasn’t done nearly as well since his early career but it’s much more understandable if he took testosterone as a high schooler. His body likely doesn’t produce as much testosterone naturally anymore.
@cjcurtis8944
@cjcurtis8944 6 ай бұрын
Galen has always been injury prone. I think age plus the stack of injuries could explain it. Also because of how young Galen was, I somehow think it plausible that Galen never knew what was really happening. His religious nature and naive personality seem like Alberto could have easily manipulated the whole thing and Galen might not have fully understood.
@MadisonClark765
@MadisonClark765 Ай бұрын
1:06:40 In Karas book The Longest Race on page 61 she claims that it was her and Adam that introduced Dr Brown to Alberto. She claimed it was after mentioning Brown as a reputable person, Alberto then reached out to him and visited him in Houston in early 2005.
@mbird01
@mbird01 6 ай бұрын
I didn't hear what sifan Hassan was saying 😞
@CBS70s
@CBS70s 4 ай бұрын
That’s ok. Nobody did.
@amircastilla07
@amircastilla07 6 ай бұрын
Imagine all those persons that are clean and never get the respect, recognition and money they deserve while other persons and corporations get all the benefits and almost no blow back. Just pains my heart.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 ай бұрын
1:18:29 you seem to have forgotten the case of Shelby Houlihan in 2021, but to be fair I’m not sure she was coached by Salazar but Jerry Schumacher (Salazar’s assistant) was then, and is now the BTC coach. Houlihan’s very absurd excuse and the circling of the wagons that ensued among her NOP/BTC teammates also clearly spells out a persistent systemic problem among Nike athletes.
@FergusHodgson
@FergusHodgson 4 ай бұрын
The time drops shared here, especially those of Rupp, are not absurd. With the right training, nutrition, and broader support, athletes can make serious improvements. In that case it was about 30 seconds over 5,000 meters. I suspect those commenting here will agree that such a drop is little evidence of doping, although that does not rule it out.
@tizioincognito.3330
@tizioincognito.3330 6 ай бұрын
Looking forward for the video where you explain why all top athletes are doping.
@EightFrancs
@EightFrancs 3 ай бұрын
Do you have information to share? Genuine question, not trolling.
@FinnyFinnFinn96
@FinnyFinnFinn96 6 ай бұрын
I highly recommend Kara Goucher’s book The Longest Race mentioned in this video. Lots of super interesting background information. For example, the Gouchers knew Dr Jeffrey Brown before he came to NOP - an intriguing wrinkle in the story. Additionally there’s just a ton of circumstantial evidence - eg Kara hearing Mo talk about how he usually got an injection instead of a cream. It’s a real page turner and at times reads like a political thriller. It definitely makes you reconsider your relationship with Nike as a brand, and as somebody who thinks they still make some of the best high performance gear around, it’s hard to wrap your brain around it at times.
@DO-he8ge
@DO-he8ge 6 ай бұрын
She might have been doping herself. We have no reason to believe her over any other former NOP athlete.
@CBS70s
@CBS70s 4 ай бұрын
@@DO-he8geI’m pretty sure that Goucher wasn’t the “innocent fawn in the headlights”.
@seb16x2110
@seb16x2110 6 ай бұрын
it's incredible that Mo and Rupp still got to compete throughout their entire careers. Dirty as can be.
@Sal.mohamed0
@Sal.mohamed0 6 ай бұрын
Realize Mo Farah never doped, he was one of the most tested athletes in the world at the time. Yes he did take L Carnitine which isn’t against doping rules if taken in the right quantities.
@gregoryluna535
@gregoryluna535 6 ай бұрын
@@Sal.mohamed0 most tested athlete ever doesn’t mean much. Armstrong was probably the most tested athlete of his era and didn’t test positive despite big time doping. Many champion dopers retired with no positives. Not accusing Mo, just saying the no positive argument is meaningless.
@joshuaolayanju9658
@joshuaolayanju9658 6 ай бұрын
@@gregoryluna535The thing about Lance Armstrong is said a lot even though it is technically not true. I am pretty sure he tested positive at one point but forged medical documents to dodge repercussions.
@gregoryluna535
@gregoryluna535 6 ай бұрын
@@joshuaolayanju9658 yeah, besides that after fact saddle sore prescription and the tour looking the other way.
@seamusweber8298
@seamusweber8298 6 ай бұрын
Muhammed Farah. Up to his eyeballs in the stuff
@CBS70s
@CBS70s 4 ай бұрын
Salazar was born in Cuba, eh? You know who else was born in Cuba? Rosie Ruiz.🤔🤔🤔
@gregs3301
@gregs3301 2 ай бұрын
Kind of amazing to what has been done to a coach obssesed with his job who wanted to dance on the line and push to the limits while the competition been give a green card to cross the line by miles. How do you think medals are won?
@OtesOtesOtes
@OtesOtesOtes 6 ай бұрын
The devil lol the death grips v accurate ok dying 3x is relatable
@AllyourBase3
@AllyourBase3 4 ай бұрын
Crazy how all these athletes that have arguably the most documented and important medical documents and history can have so many mistakes!
@Patman1216
@Patman1216 6 ай бұрын
yooooooooo
@brewpat
@brewpat 6 ай бұрын
This. Was. Awesome.
@randylawson3319
@randylawson3319 6 ай бұрын
How do you explain Billy Mills running the 1964 10k finals a minute faster than his fastest 10k. Was he doping in 1964? Or is it possible to have exceptional improvements that are just that, IMPROVEMENTS.
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 6 ай бұрын
I mean one of my 5k races I ran 19:54 seconds breaking 20 minutes for the first time and barely at that, then the next 5k which just happened to be my final 5k race and a championship race at that I ran 19:21, improving by 33 seconds. So I think it's possible for him to run a minute faster in his 10k, which is double the 5k.
@fishflake1209
@fishflake1209 6 ай бұрын
Metric distances weren’t the standard in American track and field until the late 1970s. Billy Mills bettered his 10,000-meter PR by over a minute at the 1964 Olympics because most of the races he ran were over six miles instead.
@ragreenburg
@ragreenburg 4 ай бұрын
@@Bweyg Those aren't at all comparable though. No disrespect but the athletic level of someone who runs a 19:54 5k and an Olympic champion aren't comparable. So you can't take your experience and extrapolate that to someone of a much higher level. The fact is that the higher level you are, the smaller your improvements get. There's no doubt that when running 19:54 you weren't anywhere near the actual peak of what your body could perform but for an Olympic champion, they sure are pretty damn close.
@Bweyg
@Bweyg 4 ай бұрын
@nburg I'm not taking any disrespect as I know there is a difference between them and I, but what I'M saying is that it can happen up until the very VERY peak, and right now the WR for the 10k is 26:11, nearly sub 26 minutes, so nearly breaking 29 minutes to nearly breaking 28 minutes isn't that big of a stretch. Or I mean it IS a big stretch of an improvement, but it's not shaddy in anyway. Also I'm not sure if you are talking about Billy Mills and his 28:24 10k or some other 10k race but I'm going with the ladder.
@CBS70s
@CBS70s 4 ай бұрын
@@BweygAt what Championship race do you compete in with a 19 minute finish in the 5000 meters? Were you lapped twice?
@flash_playss
@flash_playss 5 ай бұрын
The guy from Tj max
@user-ro2ee7cn3f
@user-ro2ee7cn3f 6 ай бұрын
The Best Coach...
@kenhalal375
@kenhalal375 5 ай бұрын
I just want to correct something I mispoke about in my initial comment in regards to Kara Goucher and the stories about the massages she had with Alberto. After reading her book now and getting a better understanding of her personality and the struggles she had on and off the track I believe in her claims. If you've not read her book I would highly recommend it. It brought back a lot of bitter sweet memories and challenges for me as a runner. Her book has motivated me to get more consistent in my workouts and to never give up. She certainly had more than her fair share of injuries, illness and setbacks which may have been influenced by the demeaning enviroment she was in under Salazar. As a cyclist in my later years now I can see the link between Salazar and Armstrong. Both very similar personalities. Even if you take the PED's out of the NOP equation Salazar is still a loser as a coach and human being in my book.
@sroycze9284
@sroycze9284 3 ай бұрын
You should add this to the original comment.
@Afroman183
@Afroman183 6 ай бұрын
Its ashame that nike documentary from what i remember didnt mention the touchy stuff cos thats always a quick way to make someone not like you they made it more complicated and more they feed you the facts. Though hate him or love him he was the performance guy to blurr the lines cheat the right amount and not get caught etc though i think people think of salazar as part the doctor but important note he wpulf never have wiped test cream on his sons to find out how much is needed to test positive as people biology and ethnic group can play a role in testosterone how they respond and how much shows up in pee. Blood can also be same with the Test -epitest ratio are different in different people and some can take more and pass perfectly fine. Salazar was the everything else guy i think personally if he didnt do those horrible things to kara and apparently caine i wpuld probs still have some respect for him though personally i think as inappropriate and obessed with lowering weight of the women he does have a point performance wise and i hate to quote that dick rider from the nike salazar doc but he was the performance guy. But doesnt make it right and people dont expect that coaxhing enviroment , if he was honest about it like he was with top 5 marathon athletes on hgh and epo then people wpuld feel better about it and we would have less to say.
@ericjacobs6276
@ericjacobs6276 6 ай бұрын
Respected this guy until I read Kara Gouchers book
@trevorwillis1729
@trevorwillis1729 5 ай бұрын
She needed some money :)
@GottaLoveKat
@GottaLoveKat Ай бұрын
Love your vids on cheating scandals keep em coming
@davidlard8490
@davidlard8490 6 ай бұрын
You need to read Kara Goucher's book "The Longest Race" . You will see what Salazar was about.
@pauloliver1842
@pauloliver1842 4 ай бұрын
alberto definitely doped during his hey-day
@Pisssurpantz
@Pisssurpantz 4 ай бұрын
Someone listens to death grips😏
@Frank-cw2xy
@Frank-cw2xy 5 ай бұрын
What’s the mystery? He doped his athletes and treated them like garbage.
@superuner73
@superuner73 5 ай бұрын
If you still believe in Santa Claus then you most likely believe these elite athletes are clean.
@nimbra2
@nimbra2 6 ай бұрын
Comrades. They speak english in South Africa, comrade.
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 6 ай бұрын
Like the other athletes dont dope
@bharatmahaan2991
@bharatmahaan2991 Ай бұрын
He's been a controversial coach.
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