I will educate you and bring you up to date... but awesome great piece...I comend and respect your PRESENTATION WOW

Interesting two WHITE guys getting it on ...I pose this could either be at lasse viren

It's 8-1 in Jakob's favor in the 1500m. And 1-0 in Kerr's favor in the mile.

Yared is my favorite American right now, how can you not love the dude

@@pugsnhogz hes just doesn't seem very competitive and never wins big races

@@obey_monte785 is this a joke?

“Land of the Scots” Kerr lives in Seattle

I think that would be Østfold. The Stavanger/Sandnes area is pretty flat though, but the mountains are really nearby

Touché. Was a throwaway line that I didn't put much thought into 😅

Kinda like the ridiculous nick names, like Top Gun.

@@nathans2157 He lives in New Mexico most of the time

I agree. I certainly can't believe that they get practically no recognition for their achievements in the rest of Britain either. Maybe Athletics isn't seen as as big a sport in the UK as it was in the 80's when the likes of Coe, Ovett, Cram and Daley Thompson were around.

Is there some hidden joke behind this that I'm not aware of?

​@Bweyg I would assume it's because the world record is most likely much harder than the national one. Unless your nation is the world record holder of course.

@@MAEVELOVE1 So basically "I can get this record. It's the other record that's difficult to get." AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHABHAHAHHAHAHAHA Again I'm confused.

And he didn't get the UK one either did he?

@@bobdrooples he is the current UK mile record holder.

The Petty is strong with this one. I’m here for it

hes using the other guy as motivation thats all

Some people like to buy into the gossip ABOUT Kerr and Ingebrigsen because that's what the media pushes. That press conference at 13:30 was an example of the inept questioning by the media. Both Kerr and Ingebrigsen seemed indifferent to it. And Nuguse was just himself.

Agreed. They aren't quite on the same level... Kerr is trying to get there and seems to talk first with the hopes he can keep up with what he's said. In ten years, they'll barely be mentioned in the same conversation.

@@JaySizzsame number of 1500 world titles?

@@tofuwu_ Yeah, but don't forget the iconic world records that Jakob has broken, Hicham's 2000m and the legendary Komen 2 mile record. Also a 3:27 and 3:43.

​​@@JaySizzYou are really wrong. Kerr has developed later and Jacob is struggling to deal with it.Kerr is now applying the mental pressure.Looking at Jacobs reactions it's working.You can see it in his body language and responses. That dive in his last race screamed desperation not to lose again, despite being out ran.

Have you been listening or are you thick,Kerr has been a perfect gentleman,you think Jakob has he is utterly arrogant any athlete doing what he does in his races shows lack of respect for his fellow competitors,you are a fool 🥵

that and his interesting hand placement

By that logic, T. Cheruiyot has 21 DL wins and therefore is better than Jakob.

​@@shaun__3 It is about a rivalry between Kerr and Jakob and you start to babble about Cheruiyot, what are you doing mate...

@@rube7614 Just using the same logic mate

@@shaun__3 Cheruiyot is 5 years older than Jakob, so that should be expected. If we include Jakob's DL wins in the 2000m, 3000m, 2 mile, and 5000m he is close to 21 or beyond.

I met him at Oregon relays and he really did sound almost American

He did have his whole college career in the US, so he might've lost some accent then

I spent 2 and a bit teenage years in the USA, and I was totally a yank by the time I returned to the UK. Very easy to pick up an accent (particularly American) at a young age and socialising/working every day. I should add that Edinburgh folk (depending on class) have a rather light accent.

No way in hell does he sound american lol. You probly hardly speak English

@@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv I've lived in the USA my whole life and I was surprised by how American his accent was. Try being less of a dickhead, it does wonders.

Kerr isn't racing europeans unfortunately. probs bc hes trying to peak for the olympics but jakob is racing 1500 and 5k

@@woodygz9746Kerr dodges Jakob left right and centre whilst Jakob runs everything

@@kd-wk8ndkerrs on a very different programme to Jakob as discussed in this video, has very little to do with dodging. Plus euros are very minor in comparison with viewer rates and bonuses far lower than the Olympics, so travelling back to Europe and missing what would probably 2 weeks of proper training would surely make no sense for kerr

⁠@@archiejames4739sure he will be eyeing the Olympics but he could do the euros .. and he certainly dodged Jakob at the end of last season in diamond league races. Jakob goes in for everything and is by a long way the more complete athlete. Kerr beat him once and makes an awful lot of noise but has done no more than Jake Wightman who is more classy. Anyway should be some good races!

@@kd-wk8nd Jakob is definitely the more ‘complete’ athlete, but not the most complete 1500 runner and that’s shown and I think will continue to purely from the type of training he does. In terms of dodging, ye Kerr didn’t race him but (all respect to Jakob for being able to do this) winning the worlds and then continuing to be in top race form after mentally must be incredibly difficult and in my opinion pointless. And the euros again is a rlly weird one, had 16,000 viewers on the bbc tonight, stadium looked well over half empty, sponsors who are sustaining this sport rlly wouldn’t want an athlete to travel from west America to Europe 2 months out from the most important event in 4 (3 cause of covid) years. Peaking is a hard thing to get right and adding travel plus the risk of illness seems silly

Perfectly said. Kerr seems to be entering his prime years, progression is never linear. Hopefully this rivalry keeps up

Yeah, this videos so dumb it's actually put me off the channel. Like saying Leverkusen v Bayern isn't a rivalry now because Bayern used to dominate them 6 years ago.

It’s not easy to have to lead most of the race and hope stronger kickers fold.

with one of the last two being THE world championship final 💀🙏

Kerr's just taking the mick, he was the first to be self-deprecating when he won the world indoors.

"Lost almost every race". Funny how he's won almost every race in the last year though.

Its the media that is so intent on making this a rivalry not Kerr or Ingebrigsen. So you swallowed the media narrative!? That's all!!

Thanks. That explains his accent. 👍

Ingebrigsen has gone out of his way to take shots at Kerr, so he clearly sees him as a main rival

Not true Jakob doesn't "see" kerr @ all----- Kerr is just an annoying caricature of what he hopes to gain,a would be... All true champions, def not kerr,are 180 degrees different from every perspective, especially attitude. Take El gueroj, he's a genuinely nice guy,caring ,humble,devout, double WR holder. Then look @ Kerr? He's a clown by any possible comparison..A BIG MOUTH WANNA BE CHUMPION. No matter the outcome of Paris,Jakob will continue on & get both the mile & 1500 WR's.Wait 4 it. Done.

Kerr wins in the finals when it matters womp womp jakobs rolled

Well if he wants to be the best then he should beat Kerr and win world championships which he didn’t do 😹😹😹

@@AidenMcMahon-vt5ikwait till paris🥱

Oh, look a specialist in what a good tattoo looks like!?!? 😂😅. Christ you are as bad as these gossipers at the press conferences asking those inept questions about what one thought of the other!! Juvenile stuff that is!!!

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 - hahaha… jeez man, calm yourself. It’s just a KZfaq comment.

@@Milkydrummer I specialize at making hyperbolic comments about nothing consequential!

Loved Cram and Ovett.Hated the other one😂

Jakob is not at the level of Magnus, not even close

Jakob has lost the last 3 1500m finals. Magnus succesfully defended his WCC title for nearly a decade, and gave the up the title because he was bored of winning. Lets see jakob win the next 2 olympics, then decdie not to particpate in the next one after that despite still being the worlds best, then we can compare jakob and magnus.

Oh, does Magnus Carlsen lose all the time then? I know nothing about chess. I thought he won all the time.

@@rejectedryan6539 3?

@@wss33 2022 indoor 1500m final. 2022 outdoor 1500m final 2023 outdoor 1500m final

Both Kerr and Ingebrigsen are chill it's the media that lives to hype rivalry and conflict even if none exists. And some viewers buy into that keep. Let's put the spot lights on you several times a year and see how you handle it.

who did rhythm games?

Wait, you think the World Champion, whose blitzing all his PBs while running within himself all season, isn't working hard?

Except in that case Sharapova won early and got dominated the rest of her career. Kerr was dominated early, but is now the one winning.

If Kerr wins in Paris, it's not a rivalry, it's a Kerr domination. Jakob's a 5,000m star at that point.

Because he's on a different cycle to Jakob. Kerr has done plenty of high profile races. Since winning at Budapest, Josh has ran in the 5th Avenue Mile, did a half-marathon in San Diego, did the 2 mile at Millrose, did the 3000m at World Indoors, and the Mile at the Pre Classic. Ducking PEDs my ass. He'll be at British trials in the 800m and probably do a 1500m/mile before the olympics. Honestly this is just bizarre hatred and shows your lack of knowledge. Jakob has went for obscurer rarely ran records too. He literally went out to set the 2-mile outdoor/outright world record at a Diamond League meet last year! Jakob is the one that's ducked meets according to your logic - he didn't go world indoors! There's a 1500m at Monaco and a week later there's a mile at London. I bet both duck each other. Josh could go for his home crowd in London and I bet Jakob goes to Monaco.

@@shaun__3 Outdoor 2-mile record was one of the most difficult and revered world records, not so much the indoor record.

@@joshuaolayanju9658 So much so it was in the pre-televised part of the meet. Real spectacle.

@@shaun__3 It isn’t a diamond league discipline, hence, it wasn’t televised. If you ask anybody that knows anything about track and field they will tell you how iconic that record was. Daniel Komen was no joke, and it lasted 20+ years.

@@joshuaolayanju9658 fair enough lol you are right

I mean, if they're there to race then the better runner is the one with the better strategy, not the one who paces the most. Jakob knows he's fast when the pace is more consistent, but he's not the best finisher. He needs to put more light between himself and the rest of the field in the first half if he wants to get close in Paris.

Your comment is interesting, though, because Jakob seems to struggle much more in the races without other pacers.

@@katy3901 Certainly, he does incredibly well when someone else or himself in some cases takes it out very fast, but you are right in your previous comment, if the pace is inconsistent he struggles a lot more. Unfortunately for him most of his competition, Kerr, Wightman, Hocker, Neguse, and others all do better in a more tactical scenario and have a better kick than Jakob. Jakob is certainly a better 5k runner than those men, but they are all true 1500m specialists whereas Jakob probably isn't, he is just so aerobically strong that he does well anyway

@@bituminouscole I think you've hit the nail on the head there

Ironically, Timothy served as the pacemaker when Jakob won the gold in the Olympics.

Was the World Championship final his season opener?

​@luckyspurs didn't you watch their most recent race that Kerr won

Yessir. Dumb Party is my favorite song from Internet Girl btw lol

@@RunnerBoi Dude doesn’t miss, does he?

Do you want them to run barefoot?

@@saturn7835 Typical internet. I make a valid point and some fool counters with the opposite extreme.

​@@petewilcockyou did not make a valid point. The argument of yours is ridicolous at best, hateful at worst. If you argue like that close to no new record "does count". Look how athletes all over different sports train now, vs 50years ago- they use science and the rules to their best advantage- as they should. These athletes know exactly what got them to this times. Its the shoe, nutrition, double treshold days, strenght training, mental training and much more that we woulld not even think about. Are records in the marathon not valid because they used better electrolytes and better carb gels than they did 50 years ago? Because that is kind of the "valid argument" of yours.

@@beansandrunning "supershoes confer an unfair advantage to historical records" - ridiculous and hateful? You're a joke. What you describe are some of the things which would validate a new modern record - better and harder training. However since carbon plates came out, so many records have fallen, and it's all due to the shoes. Anyone that pretends otherwise is just wilfully ignorant at best, and a stupid moron at worst. :)

real

@@RunnerBoiThe whole video is full of it damn

I see it in the head to head record 😂

Not really , this has been the most truthful of all analysis that I have seen and tells the complete timeline from the begining

@ZATHURAKEY not really. He gives yakob every single benefit of the doubt but clearly refuses to do the same for Kerr. Its very blatant bias.

@@RiqMoran totally disagree

It's like a Bayern Munich fan making a video about "how can Leverkusen v Bayern be a rivalry, we finished above them every season since 2010-11, until this season". Going "ooh 12-1; Leverkusen will be an irrelevant footnote in 5 years time". Yeah, but they're beating you now and they're a massive problem for you/rival of yours now.

Well said, and by far the most accurate analysis here. The recency bias is strong - how easily people have forgotten the several years of Jacob arrogance in before/after race interviews where he simply dismissed the rest of field out of hand with commentaries like "I came here to run my race and hit my goals and wasn't worried about anyone else since nobody else is on my level" etc, etc, etc. Well several years of digs like that plant the seeds of disgust in your rivals, eventually resulting in one of those "nobody's" rising up and beating you down. In this case Wrightman, then Kerr, successively. You reap the seeds you sow - that Jacob or anyone is surprised by this is hilarious. You go Kerr - I'm here for it!

I beg to differ , Jacob beat Kerr in The Olympic Finals in 2021 and the World championship Finals in 2022 . If that's not more important , than please explain

And Jacob has beaten Kerr in every Diamond League race they have run against each other except Prefontaine this year ... you have your more important events mixed up

He really doesn’t.. eg last olympics prev world champs, he beat him once last year by a fraction of a second and then avoided him for the rest of the year. Kerr dodging the European champs whilst Jakob does 2 events.

@@ZATHURAKEY what other diamond league races have they run against each other this year?

@@katy3901 they both started their Diamond league season in Prefontaine , Jacob ran in Oslo ..... last year Oslo and Lausanne

I don't even know what that means because I've never heard of it XD is it like a spanish version of "man vs man"?

1500m Olympic Victories: Jakob - 1 Kerr - 0 1500m European Championship Victories: Jakob - 3 Kerr - 0 Top 5 fastest 1500m races: Jakob - 3:27.14, 3:27.95, 3:28.32, 3:28.68, 3:28.72 Kerr - 3:29.05, 3:29.38, 3:29.64, 3:30.07, 3:30.51 Sub-3:30 races: Jakob - 12 Kerr - 3 Sub-3:29 races: Jakob - 6 Kerr - 0 Mile PBs: Jakob - 3:43.73 Kerr - 3:45.34

Where in the world did I say in that in the conclusion lmfao. I said that *statistically* and (arguably) contextually speaking, Jakob is still the favorite, but clarified that Kerr is in the best shape of his life and that I would love for this to turn *into* an authentic rivalry since they're (in theory) much more evenly matched than ever before.

Why so aggressive lol runnerboi was just stating facts

@@JaxnBoyd-rm4rv as stockbrokers might say, past performance is no guarantee of future performance. Get back to me after we know who wins.

@@RunnerBoi look at the title of your video: This rivalry makes no sense. What do you mean by that? The underlying theme of your video is that there isn’t really a rivalry even if you equivocated towards the end. It’s clear what you really think.

@@josephgonzalez_ runnerboi was just talking about the history between the two and not showing any bias, he wasn’t saying who he thought would win and while I was watching he seemed neutral to me. I don’t really know what your reply is saying, I never dated that we knew who was going to win and I myself think that Kerr is better at the moment.