Thanks for the comment! Glad things have been working well, and for so long too!

Let me know how you get on with it, thanks for the sub!

@@TheTortoise I will Gabriel, thank you.

Sounds like you’re most of the way there!

James Hunt 😁 what a legend! You’re far too kind!

There are some similarities, but the risk of chimney fires are normally pretty remote.

That is awesome! Hope you have a warm first season with it!

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😆 we did that when I was young too.

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Yea, it depends on which wood you’re drying. Things like Ash, birch and Beech dry relatively quickly (around the time you mentioned), but other fuels like oak definitely need considerably longer. If you follow the Scandinavian methods then you have a separate log store with removable sides, so that you can catch the wind in dry weather. You can get drying times down even further if you’re super organised like that, but it sounds sort of mad. I don’t know how they’ve got so much time 😆

Welcome aboard! If you're moving to a 2 storey house with a proper masonry chimney and a good sized fireplace then the Ambition is potentially the better pick, as it will burn for longer and create way more heat. If on the other hand you won't have an ideal chimney, there is a smaller fireplace that will leave the Ambition more cramped, or if you simply prefer the look then in which case the Pioneer sounds like the beast for the job.

Fantastic, thanks a lot for the feedback. All the very best with the stoves, and let me know how you get on!

I'm exactly like you, agree about the shops too, this channel educated me so much. Looked at the Peanut 5, but gone for Dean Forge Dartmoor cos I like the look and size. Happy heating

Have you used them yet?

You get far more heat out of hardwood and it burns for longer. When you consider Ash dieback, we actually have a huge amount of hardwood going to waste so for now at least I would stick with hardwood. The other issue with softwood is it’s quite sappy and can cause over firing & chimney tarring.

Thanks a lot 😬😆

This video may be helpful, it also has a tag half way through, which links to another related video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nduigpN5xLPemZc.html I don’t tend to think there is a benefit worth chasing. I generally think of vents etc as a solution to a problem, but they do need to be handled carefully (as you’ll hear in the video, sometimes vents can make an issue worse rather than better).

It’s sounding pretty good to me, obviously chimneys need sweeping regularly with big monstrous stoves like this. You’re likely to find overnight running easier if you focus on a particular fuel. Wood will need a full ash pan, and a good bed of ash in the firebox. Coal based fuel likes a clear pan. Overnight running will be easier like this and there are some other advantages to general running and longevity too.

Mine I’m having made have just arrived. Drop me an E-mail to thetortoiseuk@gmail.com and I’ll post you one out (I think they cost £6.00 with post) I’m not fully organised with an online shop yet, but once I am this’ll get a bit easier.

It’s certainly possible for issues, that’s why you have the CO alarm. It’s not for everyone, but certainly works for some of us.

You do need it sweeping, but lots of fitters will sweep it themselves as part of the job. If the chimney looks clear then I’d leave it to the fitter, but if it’s a bit of a mess then it’ll need a bit more time than the fitter may have. Worth asking your fitter.

Thanks a lot, really glad to hear things are working well.

They do, but stoves always work better with top outlets, so they’re always our first choice.

This sounds great. You could consider the W5 given your serious use, but the installation with 2 45° bends will be fine. Id also ask him to fit a 6” flue if possible, this will mean you can remove the DEFRA kit (assuming you’re not in a smokeless zone), it will also be better suited to your serious use!

@@TheTortoise I've actually reserved the Dartmoor W5 from Yorkshire Stoves, very helpful people with the unit on display. It can go close to the wall with the double heat sheild saving precious space in the already small room. Thanks for that , I'll discuss the 6 inch flue. Now for bulk buy kiln dried logs stored on a pallet in the outdoor earth closet, some magic coal, fire starters and long matches - I love your little easy-dispense bottle - and I'm all set. Oh, and a couple of oil lamps for emergency light (forget the generator).Almost want a power cut when snowed in 😆

@@esme6346 sounds like you should be covered 😆. I’ve actually just had some match bottles made (very similar to mine). If you E-mail me (thetortoiseuk@gmail.com) I can send you a picture, and if you want one I’ll send one out. I will get them on to a KZfaq shop once I’m organised, just haven’t got here quite yet.

That’s an old beast. They don’t make them like that anymore. 😁 Let me know how you get on.

That is the Hunter Herald 5 slimline Eco. It’s a good bit of kit, obviously you can check out my review etc.

@@TheTortoise Thank you.

Damn. I don’t know my Jags well enough, I’m a bit better with the V8’s 😆

@@TheTortoise yes bud, early v12 e types were man but 4 speed, I've just had a ton of anthracite dropped off today and the esse range is going well, heating, cooking, central heating, it does it all, heat all night on anthracite, keeps rads warm, I'm not just a stove for occasional use type of guy (!)

Good lad, keep the home fires burning.

@@TheTortoise ta mate

You’re too kind!

Hot generally means 350-400°F, when measured on the pipe just above the stove.

Thanks for the idea, that should be a fairly simple video to put together too. I’ll add it to my list, thanks a lot. Gabriel

Assuming you’re referring to the Aspect then they made an original and the latest version is called an Aspect Eco. As long as it’s the Eco I’d probably go for the best deal I could find, or I’d buy local, because you’ll always have a place to visit if you need anything.

Everyone and every situation is different so it is impossible to suggest “the best stove” (a 2 seater sports car may be nice, but if you have a family of 4 it’s essentially useless as a main car). What stove have you got How old is your house Is it fitted in a chimney or free standing How big is the room What do you burn mainly (wood or coal) How do you use your stove (all day, occasionally, just evenings etc) Let me know the answers and I can suggest some good options.

If you’re trying to get rid of tar, strangely the best thing is smokeless fuel. Smokeless fuel is corrosive to everything, so on a clean flue it will damage it, but it will actually breakdown tar. Traditionally you would of just had a chimney fire and that would have burned the tar out, but smokeless fuel is a lower temperature solution 😆.

@@TheTortoise O.K. inform me, what is smokeless fuel ??? Super dry wood ??

@@victoryfirst2878 it's a type of coal that burns without smoke. It's normally labelled as 'smokeless coal'

@@freakeystyley34 I appreciate the information fella. Now I know something new. Am wondering how expensive this fuel can be ?? Good day too.

I’ve replied to your other comment, but do be cautious with them. If you’ve got a chimney in good condition then it’ll work, but these can damage chimneys quite easily.

@@TheTortoise thank you for replying.

I’ve made a video about this issue, but yes it does tend to give people quite a shock. Most stoves in Europe now have bleeds on the stove to leak air above the fuel all the time. This in theory increases efficiency and also prevents this build up of unburned gases.

I’m hearing loads about these, and yes I’ve tried all sorts, but I am yet to find anything I prefer to normal logs. Briquettes seem to either burn way too hot or produce an unpleasant amount of ash. And logs when I’ve compared them on the same stove produce: A more even heat Less ash Still run overnight And don’t crumble in my hands and make a complete mess. I’m keen to try any products out there, but I haven’t found a competitor to decent logs yet!

It depends on the stove, but the difference can be enormous. I once tested a stove with and without the multi-fuel kit and the difference was tremendous, particularly in regard to how long the stove could be left between re-loading. Wood lasted less than half the time on that particular stove, with a relatively clear ashpan.

Thanks a lot

I still own it, but with all the swapping around it doesn’t get used much at the moment. I plan to put it in an outbuilding once I get it sorted. It’s certainly been fantastic for me!

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Really good question. No higher efficiency does not always mean better. It’s easier to get high efficiencies by forcing the stove to burn hotter and faster, meaning you lose control. It’s far harder to get Hugh efficiency and a long controlled clean burn. If you look at my review of the Holborn stove and the Allure 5, the allure has a lower efficiency but far better fuel economy. It’s not that the Holborn is bad, it’s just it is made for more intermittent use. Intermittent use is the worst for the environment as most of the dirt is created during heating the stove up, so faster burning, cleaner stoves are better suited to those users. The Allure will actually run cleaner when used by a serious user as it is used for longer periods cruising rather than stop start.

thanks for the reply . we had a newman magnifico se at our last house. it was ok but not that controllable . do all new stoves have a secondary burn or is it a gimmick ?

@@dd-yg3cx basically all stoves have secondary and most have tertiary air/burn too. There’s a lot of sales waffle, but it’s all working towards a cleaner and more thorough/efficient burn. The lazy designers route is to make a stove with less control as it will pass the tests more easily, getting a controllable stove to still beat the tests takes a bit more finesse.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqiCnaRzyq2RemQ.html The above video may be helpful. But we all have to live in the real world, stoves are looking after your family and your home. Cold, damp and mould will harm people very quickly, and the stove is preventing this. Stoves vent particulates at the top of a house within smoke that is hot and travels upwards, so the affect on your family is minute. By contrast most other things that include combustion (boilers, cars, fire pits, and your oven at home). These things emit their particulates right where you are and they also produce more particulates. I’ve become very frustrated with the media scare mongering because you are left worrying that you’re causing something horrific, but all you have to do is cook a piece of toast and you will produce more particulates than a stove. We can’t just stop eating, and not travel and not have warmth. We’re unfortunately worrying about the wrong thing, using stoves, cars and ovens are normal and the particulates they produce are normal and everyone is subject to them. What isn’t normal is the scare mongering that leads you, a father, to fear you may have harmed your children by simply keeping them warm. It seems a terrible failure by the media, that could help rather than hinder ordinary people. Rant over 😆

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate your time, I think they're looking for a scapegoat and this is an easy target, they need to ban scented candles and these things that spit out smells every 2 minutes from a plug first , is it worth upgrading to a 'eco burner', I've a saltfire in the living and a small one in the kitchen a Mazona seattle, which I'm not sure with, when I did the smoke test with the vents closed smoke was coming out the joints! I want to future proof my log burning as we love using it I'm pretty good at it now, can't imagine life without them, any suggestions would be appreciated, I have subscribed to your great channel. Kind Regards. Martin

Oh and what's your families company called if you don't mind

@@martintaylor3393 there is no reason to upgrade the stoves, they should have many more years left. The draw and smoke issue is worth looking into: is your chimney lined? is it a 2 storey house or something else? Is the top of the chimney the tallest thing around or are there taller things close by? Where abouts are you geographically (Near the sea, bottom of a valley, near a river, top of a hill)? Are you aware of anything that contributes to this issue? Is it worse or only present with certain wind directions?

@@martintaylor3393 I deliberately keep some separation, for me the integrity and impartiality of the channel is way more important than trying to sell to people.

That’s commitment! I’m glad to hear it’s working though!

There is always an element of risk with anything we do, and you’re right this is no different. People often find that, once they’ve got a stove, and they have become used to it, they are much more comfortable with this as an idea. If you have a dog and you leave a child in the room with it, there is an element of risk, but if you know the dog you will often make your own judgement. I think you are the best judge of your situation, and you’ll know if it is sketchy. In my own home, I would leave my stove at almost any temperature without checking. Stoves are far less dangerous when you’re not there, than they are on an overnight burn with you upstairs.

Yeh, I slapped one on the chimney and it’s great.

The lack of liner will be a contributing factor as you’ll have less draw which means the air coming into the stove and running down the glass will be moving slower and therefore be less effective. I would also very much expect there to be a temperature factor. A thermometer will help you get the temperature right and this (I expect) will dramatically change the cleanness of the burn.

Now I think probably not, which is clear from this movie.

I never panic too much about burning the odd thing, but it’s definitely best to avoid if you can 😆

We always like a “thumbs up”, thanks a lot.

Modern stoves do have a genuine jump from the likes of a 90’s Aarrow. Of course insets are at a certain disadvantage, but the Inspire is about as good as they get. Mostly it’s about how much fuel you use, a 90’s Aarrow would give plenty of heat, but it could also burn a net of logs in 1.5 hours. Modern stoves will give the same heat with waaaayyy less fuel.

@@TheTortoise Thank you, yes, it was your recommendation which steered me towards the Heta. I was also going to look at a Dik Geurts eco 500 inset had to offer but when asking my stove fitter what he used himself, he pointed to the heta Inspire 40 and recommended that as what he personally used which was good enough for me.

Sounds good, I hope you enjoy it!

We used to deliberately have chimney fires to clean the chimney when I was a kid, but those days are definitely behind us. The world is a little more official than it was, but on the plus side there are less houses burning down now which must be a good thing!

@@TheTortoise you mentioned that there are/is a risk but I didn’t get what the risk is, is it that the stove can cause a fire to break out in the room or is it just the chimney? If there’s a fire in the chimney how is that dangerous?

@@BobK5 risks are always their when you’re playing with fire. If you run a stove inappropriately then chimney fires are more likely and as the thumbnail shows this can obviously be very dangerous, but I realise mostly this isn’t a disaster other than the damage it will do to any liner that is in the chimney. As long as you run overnight sensibly following the advice given then essentially you’ve mitigated most dangers, but as I say you can’t mitigate all risks when you’re lighting a fire in your house.

@@TheTortoise thank you, that sounds reasonable.

@@BobK5 I do my best 👍😁

Socks are becoming a bit of a theme to my channel, I get a lot of advice regarding them 😂

😳 I’m a nightmare for wearing worn out socks!

This is being caused by the temperature the stove is being run at. It’s very important that the stove is filled properly and brought right up to temperature during lighting. Once you’ve done that you’ll find that keeping the glass clean is easy and you can close the stove down properly. Obviously the stove is too big for your room, but with a bit of trial and error practice, you will find that you can get the stove burning on low with a very clean glass. The initial heating is a top priority, once you’ve done it just burning a single log will be fine, and you’ll be able to close it down too, but this will take some practice. You’ve got perfect fuel, so it will be more than achievable.

Yea, definitely try to avoid that!

It is definitely manipulated figures, this might be helpful: www.charnwood.com/news/the-truth-about-wood-burning-stoves-the-real-facts/

@Janet Darbey haha, didn’t know that. I think cooking a roast dinner is similar.

😆me and socks are a nightmare.

@@TheTortoise Same!😂

Yea 😬, do as I say not as I do! 😆

You can do what you like to your chimney, but there is no con. I can bore you with the reasons behind liners, but I don’t sell them so it makes no odds to me.

@@TheTortoise There is a con, and you are clearly supporting it. You fail to state you only need a liner under certain conditions. Every HETAS installer lied to me saying you needed one regardless. Your opening statement about smoke egress into bedrooms etc is the usual disinformation put about by your industry. The majority of chimneys are safe.

@@T5Zplayer I might do a video on why liners are important as the information you have is sadly incomplete, so it’s probably a worth while video. This is a subject I have been trained in and worked within my whole life, and 2 generations before. We have installed for decades without liners and my father is part of the reason why liners are used so widely now. It’ll take me a while, but it’ll either be a useful video that will show you something new, or it’ll just annoy you. But I will just say, I’m far from a health and safety nut, but the information you have is incomplete and with a bit more information I’m certain you would recognise the need.