If you’re still not sure about Rabbit, run it with Sims. Not fun being the bad guy. Our team transitioned from digging to running rabbit 5 years ago, never looked back. Give your point man a fighting, moving chance; and give him secondary force on the threat within 1/4 second. Win.

Learned the Rabbit technique a couple yrs ago at an active shooter class. I was very skeptical at first because corner domination has always been driven into me. But after doing it with force on force, I am sold.

Rabbit is probably the most used technique because it's fast and dynamic. Once the situation goes loud, it's literally the only option left on the table. SHTF, clear as fast as possible, don't give them an opportunity to arm up. I love how much these techniques have changes since the 80's and 90's when I was in the Army. Plus the gear is SO much better. Great video.

Would love to see this stuff with furnished rooms. A couch on the wall or an entertainment center, etc, so we can see how you deal with such obstacles and decision making.

My team currently pushes the corner (the sustainment training group also teaches us pushing corner), but we tried the rabbit while at a course with the FBI. We were all very skeptical and still are. The course was force on force the last two days and many including myself still preferred pushing the corner. After this explanation and seeing the time, I'd be open to trying the rabbit again. Appreciate the good vids as always.

This is also a debate of the lead dominating the known space versus the unknown. Your stack will be less familiar with the room and has to more rapidly identify and engage. It is also a debate of more optimal for the lead to be a full on shield versus using potential human nature to trail a moving target. Glad you both pointed out merits and detriments. Good discussion.

Kinda like how project gecko teaches cqb just with an extra person added, i like it. No reason to dig a corner and take up time if youve already cleared it from the outside.

Before adopting the Rabbit technique I often felt I was going to die as point man!

Seeing the timer on the screen and the difference between the 2 techniques was excellent.

Had a guy on the team who was adamant about digging the blind corner, said running the rabbit was BS, even after sims training always proved otherwise, I finally took the stance of cool bro, you can be the 1 man every opportunity that presents itself.

When training for Iraq we suffered 35% -/+ casualties clearing buildings and the instructor said that was the best he has seen in my battalion and he told us that is really good and I thought to myself this is not good. Losing 3-4 guys per building wasn’t good enough for me. In another exercise in my platoon I was the only casualty due to a weapons malfunction with the blank system we were using I was removed from the exercise but my platoon killed it after me going down. Training is boring for some, but for us it was real and taken like it was real life. I enjoyed it I can’t even explain what I call the “zone” is but it’s a high that nothing in life compares to. Enjoyed the content and different perspectives you provided. Thank you

Clear and to the point. Thank you gentlemen. Keep up the good work.

Interesting seeing this technique used for room entry. Usually I have seen it and would teach it as a movement to get across or clear a hallway. That or the high low. Good idea and way to use multiple methods in multiple situations. Really shows that there is never truly a one answer choice for “mout/ cqb”

That's one of the best ways I've seen this tactic explained .

You guys are the best on KZfaq

Genius move

The first time you ran through running the rabbit, I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but by the end of the video I am convinced panning/pie'ing + running the rabbit, is the most lethal possibility for entering a room. Excited to try this out. I'll be preaching about this.

I prefer pushing the threat. With a corner fed room point man can always slow down his approach and quasi-pie that room (if the door is open) scan til you hit the threshold and break the corner. If the door is closed I still prefer to take on the unknown than the path of least resistance if I'm point, atleast in a team or two man setting.definitely love your break down of this. Keep up the great work.

Good shit guys. I like this breakdown comparing the two methods of flow through a corner-fed space.

Great job explaining and proving the concept fellers!

best corner fed vdeo that makes sense I have seen wow great stuff!

Running the rabbit (or chasing the rabbit) is a great tactic for corner fed rooms and large open areas of movement (ally or hallway to an adjacent building or open area). Glad to see this being pushed out and hopefully more units (military and LEOs) will adapt this into training.

Great shit as always

Thank you for keeping the peace

That's one nicely cleared room. Great video guys!

I like them both I think the room has a lot to do with it as well. For example rabbit if u enter a room with no other open doorways or halls. Maybe pushing if there is a open doorways due to rabbit has both guns point in the corner while pushing has the 2nd guy initially push into the deeper part of the room that could go to secure said open doorway

Excellent. Keep up the great work!

Excellent video! Looking forward to checking out more!

Finally someone talking about running the rabbit. It would be great show the concept when clearing L, and T shape halls/corridors.

Great video!!!!! Last time I ran CQB was Iraq 2003. Pretty cool stuff.

This concept works better than a traditional two-man entry. 👌🏼 My only critique is as follows; the 2nd man in the room doesn’t need to close or move toward the threat. He should remain linear with the 1st man in the room. Note: if a gunfight ensues, and both operators are not online, there may be an issue. E.g. 2nd man moves right and enters the 1st man’s arc of fire. Great video and presentation, guys. 👍🏼

I feel like running the rabbit could expose the #1 man to additional viewing angles that he wouldn’t have to deal with if he just pushed the threat.

Very insightful! Made me put some serious thinking into it!

Perfectly explained.

Great demonstration guys, tx.

This was a perfect and brilliant unbias breakdown of both techniques... 🍻

In five minutes you got me from “rabbit dumb, no way” to “to dang I might have to try training that”

Cool technique. Definitely gonna run reps on this.

These guys just glide through the room. So smooth

this is a cool, context specific tactic.

Fresh. Love it.

Seems a million times better. Wish our agency would teach this.

I love this video, good content. CQB tactics aren’t one size fits all though. The true skill comes from knowing when to dig that corner or chase the rabbit. Especially in unknown territory. Keep up the good work.

Craz you got these guys who think they know what their doing

Love this stuff

Great explanation and video. Thanks

Yal r badass. Thanks for all the content. 🇺🇸

thanks guys

Love it.

The blackbeard is just a gamechanger for training

Would have loved to see the orientation of the third person. Good stuff and shows the limitations and accepted risks (understood weaknesses) of any clearing procedure. I'm a 58 y/o geezer who never was military/para but just lifelong interest in self-defense that has expanded this far.

Couldn’t agree more

Very good video

Nice video. This works equally as good or even better in low light environments. Hopefully you don't mind me using this video in training!

I like how you throw in the cons.

Not someone with experience or expertise in combat ops, but I do find this pretty interesting that I naturally use the same method with a buddy in a recent video game. In helldivers 2, friendly fire is a feature. Often when its just us two he plays point man, and I cover his back as well as our six. As the second guy when we are clearing corners, He often continues to move or centers himself and I found it most effective to follow him and stay in his backpath.

Makes complete sense. 👍

Thank You.

Cool vid thank you

Very cool. The only thing I would add is to learn how to shoot non dominate. A good gunfighter does not have a weak side. It will always square your plates to the threat and you expose less entering the room. Makes it easier to get through tight spaces. It's a little awkward at first but quickly it will become second nature if you practice. Once you have and don't have to think about it you will rip. Invaluable!

Nice video bros

I'm digging that AR Pistol brace buttstock on your rifle there. So nice that the ATF is no longer able to arrest ppl for having them.

This is my first time seeing the rabbit. I like it.

Good option!

What a colorful rifle.

thanks a lot

I was introduced to this about 6 or so years ago and personally love it. Studies have shown that the #1 man gets shot 80% of the time when attacking the corner first vs 20% of the time if he runs the wall and lets the #2 man attack the corner. The bad guy will immediately try to track and hit the #1 man (it's really hard to hit a fast moving target in that space and time when the entry is by surprise) giving the #2 guy plenty of time to get multiple hits on target. That said, a lot of teams I work with still refuse to use this technique. Furniture can absolutely change the dynamic to make this ineffective. I wouldn't recommend this if you don't COMPLETELY trust the #2 man!

We do this in airsoft all the time, its funny how hours of direct threats will force you to be smart or you die and cannot have fun w/ your boys. Really tightens up your tactics.

I've always believed that a moving target would be better to present especially with a panned route. Like getting off the x "threshold funnel". Pushing the threat is still sitting on the x? Sign me up OTG. Love your content. See you soon.

Good to go gents 👍🏻

First man in determines where to go based on room layout (most rooms aren’t empty). They are showing what is also called the Hybrid model. Not going tight against either wall but more towards the center of the room. Regardless, First man goes in and second man “looks for work”(fills in the gap). I like hybrid best as the ratio of fast accurate shot placement from officer vs suspect is pretty good.

What’s your guy’s thoughts on the pistol brace amnesty? I say no one registers, not 1. What can they do? They don’t have the resources to come after everyone, anyways it’s a trap.

The main issue ive always had with running the rabbit is it assumes that the rest of the room is definately clear. If you arent confident about that then both of your entrymen are presenting their soft sides to potential targets. Pushing the threat means that everyone has a plate between them and 50% of the potential threat for the entire encounter. Running the rabbit also means that if your lead man goes down you foul the entryway for anyone else, whereas he has usually fallen off-axis if he takes a round 1 second in when you push. that said, im thinking from a commanders perspective (which is my role) were i actually the first man in? you bet your ass i want to be a rabbit!

I learned something.

In my MP and civi police tactical training, we always pushed the threat (although it wasn't called that). I really like the rabbit. It clears the fatal funnel fast. Maybe you could configure some side plate carriers and have a designated point/rabbit man.

"No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country". General Patton I have advocated for clearing from the outside as much as possible before entry for at least a decade. I really appreciate these videos. "Running the Rabbit" was THE only tactic for entry. Not looking at obstacles on the ground etc. and the foolhardiness of running into rooms to "draw fire". This at least makes sense as you now have a chance to survive an encounter as deadly as this.

Just a civvy but have done several force on force drills and running the rabbit has always felt natural to me. Get one guy going in fast to draw attention while #2 peeps and cleans up shop.

Sometimes, never, always. Both serve a purpose at times but I do like rabbit for sure

Spent a lot of years on one of our teams running CQB. The rabbit makes the assumption there is only a threat in the unseen area. The capacity to see what is in the far left corner behind or under furnature, debris etc is very limited in low light/high stress. We have made entries into places whhere there is so much debris and dirt you couldn't tell what was a human from the objects. Got to dig those corners and trust that my partner is doing his job in his while I cover my side. There is one element missing between the time of the door breach and the entry of the first man that I am reluctant to discuss in this open forum. "SWAT" guys will likely know what I'm talking about that provides additional critical seconds for the entry team.

I love running the rabbit. I’ve been training people on it for 20 years now. With that said it’s all dependent on the point man as to which technique gets used in live action.

Great content, I like the running rabbit concept and it makes sense. After weighing the pros and cons I’m unsure lol

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Laser Bukkake is gooooood

It depends on weather they are expecting company, and how stealth you are at and before the moment of entry. If it's likely they know when and where you are coming and you have to enter, run that rabbit

Good info

BtW, #1 man is never wrong. #2 man has the hardest job.

I remember learning this technique back in the Marines.

I like sending the first guy down the wall. The perp in the corner will be tracking him and shooting. The second guy turns in (button hook) and takes out the perp who is concentrating on the first guy who is a moving target and harder to hit. If the first guy button hooks in towards the corner he is right where the perp is expecting him to be. He doesn't need to track, only shoot.

Hey guys awesome video, i am curious as to if and how this applies to a door has to be breached or if you would return to a pushing technique without the exterior analysis of the room. Kind of an extension is the example you showed of running the rabbit with the chair in the way, would your solution be to return to a push technique or attempt to defeat the obstacle in some way?

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Great technique! I got that one from some SF guys teaching our SF law enforcement unit in Central America a few years ago. I hadn´t seen it ever since. We used to do a thing we called "The Israeli method" for hallways and they came and just erased it from our training. It made sense immediately and it really made a difference. You guys based on Baton Rouge? I´ll be close kinda soon, in NOLA. I wish I could do some training with you. Anyway. Great video

Can you all do a video on breaching techniques if that is something in your skill set?

If I can pie off most of the corner fed room externally and dont see any obstructions then running the rabbit is good. The room, obsticles and unknown space dictate movement but as long as there is a barrel first pointing to the unknown, you got surprise, speed, and violence of action.

Not my line of work, and my tactical movement knowledge is SUPER limited from a bit of previous work. So straighten me out if I'm WAY off on this, but conceptually running the rabbit makes more sense to me when taking rapid control of any space you don't have time to pie into on 2 counts: 1. No overlapping incoming target focus. Essentially when you're controlling the corner on entry the first way they showed, anyone inside aiming is now mostly aiming towards the fatal funnel. And everyone else pouring through the funnel is also in focus just by spraying. Whereas running the rabbit directs that target focus AWAY from the funnel, better protecting every other team member who enters AND spreading out the amount of friendlies likely to get splashed with a directed spray. And 2. Like they demonstrated here, theres no friendly blindspot of the pointman engaging a T where the 2nd + have to slide PAST him to also get on target or just take control of the rest of the room. And in my mind running the rabbit always made more sense for efficiency sake, but seeing it highlighted here really brought the curiosity i had about it into focus. I wont evangelize changing training for anyone who i know is still doing that work. But its good to have more tools in the toolbox and nice to see this one getting demonstrated in an effective way

I love OTG!

Still valid.

Is that tactical Jason Sudeikis

We’d peek the blind spots. A very quick look around the corner to check for threats. The only drawback is the material making up the wall. If it’s Sheetrock, you just shoot through it. Concrete gets the peek … PS: A lot carried little periscopes (Amazon about $8) or use mirrors. Look before you leap out into the FOF …

It essentially creates a distraction and enables the second man to take the threat unencumbered.

You know, this is the first time I’ve seen this but it’s also something I’d wondered about. Obviously Rabbit is great if you know a threat needs to be neutralized but if it’s unknown, then it seems like pushing becomes order of the day, possibly to control a person that maybe isn’t a lethal threat.