Has Adrenochrome harvesting been proven to exist or did QAnon make that up?

Russell, bro, get on with the business of engaging with people who matter. We know your heart, but allowing Sam on the platform based on the pursuit of truth is like giving airtime to a wall that had a baby with Charlie Brown's teacher. It's time to move on from this has been.

The video on Rumble doesn’t work…

@@jaredcrenshaw7665 by “who matter” you mean “who I agree with”. Correct?

🎉

It runs in his DNA. Trust me.

⁠@@mjb0183😂said the anonymous coward

Sounds like projection. What was he wrong about?

@@CoolcatAMA-Pro So, just things you disagree with

@@alibabaschultz352 His condemning of people's skepticism of government over the last 3 years while promoting Gov control & interventionism using completely speculative hypothetical theoretical scenario's which wasn't the case

🙌

Agreed

It can't be always more speech. We have libel laws, you can't display pornography, you can't spill state secrets to your nations enemies... just some exceptions to speech always being the remedy. It would be nice if it was so simple.

Exactly. And it really is TDS. Examples of suspending values is like interning Japanese. Slavery. Torturing terrorists. And you'd think someone who's well spoken would be up for the challenge; but no. The TDS rotted his brain. (and I say that as someone who has a picture of myself with him from 2014 I think).

You're just wrong....first of all, he said tension between censorship and misinformation. Then you seem to have not heard him immediately after praise free speech as our best error correcting mechanism that should be protected AT ALL COST. After that he acknowledges how misinformation has the potential to cause us to one day wake up into an ungovernable society because of delusional silos/echo chambers. Everything Sam says here is a completely accurate representation of the reality we find ourselves in. I'm going to lose my mind if yall don't get over your Sam derangement syndrome. Personally, I think misinformation is such a big problem that we probably need a kind of AI generated model/mapping of the facts of any given situation and the beliefs people are walking away with after viewing said facts. I think the only way to cause our trajectory to become more stable is COMPLETE DATA TRANSPARENCY on all platforms. We don't need censorship of speech, just data visualizations and labels of wtf is going on.

I really appreciate this comment! Sometimes it feels a little echo-y in this community.

I agree. Allowing an enemy of free thinking and free speech a platform to spout his nonsense, only strengthens those values by example.

"Apocalypse of contrarianism" lol 😂😂😂...Sure, Sam!

"Apocalypse of contrarianism" 😂...Sure, Sam

Real change with warmongers who use violence indiscriminately will not happen peacefully.

Ha. I think you are being generous. It was definitely much higher.

big pharma is a money hungry pig

I'm with you on this, I think Sam personally did go off the rails, but I can't disagree with his main points and rationality behind them. There was a semblance of admitting to the shit show that was the last few years, whereas he was willfully ignorant or purposely omitting in his communications before, possibly under the guise of a virtuous ' for the greater good' type thing. I completely agree that we need to trust our institutions once again. Without doing so, we will have a complete societal collapse. I believe this is the root of why he went off the rails originally. As a very intelligent man, he was aware of the shitshow yet rationalized that people needed to trust these failed institutions as a greater importance than toppling a handful of crooks.

How can you trust institutions that are unwilling to admit mistakes?

​@@adamhope8689 what does that have to do with the comment you are replying to?

Sam is condescending to the average person - “they can only focus on one shiny object at a time”. He also acts perplexed as to why there’s little trust in important institutions and muses over how to fix that - to me, it’s simple, start by telling the truth and being honest. Sam then claims there’s no way we can agree on ‘facts’ from Covid - not true, again, tell the truth and give us the facts. We won’t agree on ‘facts’ when we keep getting lied to. Sam sounds like an abusive husband while the public feel like we have battered wife syndrome.

@@GumnutsX completely agree, I sense an underlying disdain for the less educated or as he perceives, less cognitively gifted as well as a disdain for his peers who don't share his views, namely that there is a need to manipulate and 'white lie' to the great unwashed for the greater good. I think we have pretty good data to suggest that doing the hard work in a completely honest way up front, and going into depth as to why this is the best option despite the hardships, is a better option than attempting to manipulate and being found out later.

Exactly. If the Republicans had been smart, after Jan. 6, they should have apologized and changed course away from all the obvious MAGA lies. But instead, they doubled down. 🤦‍♂️

Humility? Sam doesn't have that. He'd have to look that up, in a dictionary. A mark of a great scientist is humility. Sam doesn't have that. He's too arrogant. Impossible for Sam to be a great scientist, despite his obviously high IQ.

@@TimBitts649Yes!! Exactly!!

@@TimBitts649 if he's so arrogant as to never admit he's wrong then his IQ isn't that high. Understanding that you don't actually know everything is a function of intelligence. He doesn't have that, he's just putting on a good performance.

@@TimBitts649 except for the obvious scenario .. when you can clearly see the others person level of knowledge on the topic your trying to debate is horribly low. And the other scenario- when the person your trying to discuss a serious topic with has no real interest in discussing the topic for solutions and instead simply wants to repeat his own talking points that Russell knows his viewers like.

If everyone had left Jordan Peterson when he was broken and weak where would we be now?

​@@kristynsotelo1452lol not the same, Jordan Peterson had personal problems and now he's under attack from his own government, Sam is suffering from TDS and has exposed himself as a fool Ala when he said He didn't care if there were pictures of dead children on Hunters laptop he just wanted Trump gone

What is this TDS everyone keeps mentioning? Sorry I'm ignorant

​@@mishukzoo TDS: Trump Derangement Syndrome. It was called BDS back in the 2000s.

@@kristynsotelo1452 exactly what was the reason Peterson was broken to you? I only recall his antiwoke response to forced pronouns and his suffering due to prescription meds.

It's like applying for credit. But they want to see a credit history first. There has to be an initial trust at some point. But nowadays, one brush is all that is necessary. One politician is proven crooked, then EVERY politician is considered crooked. Conspiracy theories galore.

I don’t know what Sam’s cognitive abilities have to do with the validity or invalidity of his ideas… Sam says he understands why people don’t trust institutions right now and he acknowledges that it’s because they haven’t been very trustworthy in the past. I’m not sure you’d disagree with that… Then he says we have to figure out a way to create institutions we can trust, which is no easy task. And this is opposed to throwing up our hands cynically and giving society the middle finger. I mean it feels good, but it really isn’t going to get us anywhere. As for the trust is earned, that is correct and it’s incredibly difficult to run an institution that earns everyone’s trust. There will always be some people in that institution who are bad apples, institutions will always be at risk for group-think and other biases, institutions will always be at risk for corruption and perverse incentives, and because of these things, they aren’t going to handle every situation perfectly. And that’s the problem, when we say they need to earn out trust, what we really mean is that they need to be perfect, this is especially true of the medical institutions with COVID. But that’s never going to happen, and the reason it’s not going to happen has little to do with some kind of inherent evilness of institutions and more to do with the fact that no institution can be perfect. No individual can be perfect. Nothing is ever perfect. I understand the hesitation. I get it. I’m not too trusting of financial institutions, and it’s for all the same reasons. But at the end of the day, people tend to do better financially if they trust financial institutions. Again, there are obvious cases when that has not been the case at all and they’re awful cases and it’s scary because nothing was done about it. But it’s still true that you’ll do better financially if you don’t keep your money stuffed in mattress. And I hate saying that because I don’t trust financial institutions, but it’s true. So yes, let’s reform the institutions! That’s all Sam is saying. Let’s reform them so that we can trust them and they are more likely to earn our trust… I don’t know why he’s a dunce for saying that… but maybe I’m missing something.

Fair enough. But we still don't literally arrest people for mean tweets.

All our Western Countries have failed to protect FREEDOM, as my - and his - Australia has failed Assange.

@@bobroberts8500 I'm just saying it's Sam calling the kettle black on behalf of his pot. I'm a Dutchman trapped in the UK. I know the kettle is very black.

Or "Russell Brand" lol

@@stevenborg102 Yah.. Anybody getting worried?

Silly man? Covid has killed millions of people.

He revealed his true self when he said he didn't care if there was pictures of dead Children in hunter Bidens laptop he just wanted Trump gone

Agreed.

I agree with you, he has "gone down hill" but i think instead of calling him silly we should explore WHY this has happened. What is causing people to get so lost down all these rabbit holes of hypotheticals.

Raising hypotheticals and case studies is literally how philosophical discourses are run. I just think people hate sam because he says things you don’t agree with it. This is what I noticed in the center and center to right folks 🤷🏽

They succeeded quite well with their goals. Economic warfare, increased control, and the most financially successful pharma product in history. It's extremely important to be aware of the actual goals & intentions.

​​@@KennyPalurintanoits extrmely important to not parrot reductive, oversimplified, vaguely aligned theories just to prove to everyone you're anti establishment

​@@silentnot4812 how did it work better? We are now in a worse place than after that flu. People don't trust science or institutions anymore. We were lucky that covid was not that deadly and the gran majority of us could go through with it. If a new deadlier virus comes that does need lockdowns and vaccine's we are going to fail

@@paulg6274 Oh he was trying to prove that he was anti-establishment? I thought he was just telling the truth? Are you upset that he didn't write a doctoral thesis on the evils plaguing our world? You might want to adjust your expectations for KZfaq comments, lmfao.

@@papabzzt9353 yet u were able to determine what he was communicating within his comment, as was I. I think its en vogue to site this as the "truth" but when ppl are forced to explain the logistics, most of the theories fall apart

Agree

He didn't, he's just saying vague things to please Trump fans.

@@Dantianblue I see, and what's Sam Harris doing?

High IQ, a hunger for truth, and relentless curiosity.

​​​​@@johnbanach3875 Sam actually provides the needed contextual definitions that .. define his point correctly. If you think it's just words that aren't needed ...it's because it's likely over your head ... sadly. Russell's points are rather simple, yet he decides to use convoluted words that weren't really needed or related to his point. Your always left wondering why Russell spoke in such a weird way that added no needed detail. Meaning Russell uses useless words for no reason. Sam's are needed to understand exactly what he is saying. Without them Sam's points would be lost and misunderstood

Sam doesn’t use as flowery language as Russel, but Sam’s points are consistently invalid regarding free speech and Trump. He seems to have lost all ability to reason with regards to these topics. It would serve him well to strong man positions he does not agree with rather than attack ridiculous, inaccurate and naive straw man arguments, but he would need a modicum of humility to do this, so no chance.

But Trump bro 😂😂😂

Well he was completely correct if you actually think about it, I'm sure you havent though.

First time you’ve heard hyperbole?

​@@henryburton6529Are you sleeping with Sam Harris or something?

I choose you, Pikachu!

Autocorrect is beyond bad. (But trust it to teach your kids?)

This comment perfectly sums up the Sam Harris criticism in this comment section.

@MeChoonChannel Then the intelligent critiques must have been shadowed, as usual, while the wacky rants are amplified. The reason for this is obvious: it creates the impression a particular position is only adopted by the loons. Dr. Malhotra interviewed by Bret Weinstein is the best summary of what happened. You should watch it.

@@l.w.paradis2108 Cheers. I'll take a look

"Communtarianism" is the new UN globalist communist-fascist ideology implementing "the common good." What is good for the individual is good for the common. Putting smoke in the air is not a right (for industrial pollution) as Harris is claiming. the smoke in the air affects others individual right to breath... which is absolutely a superior "individual right". A camp fire is fine, tho.

He’s a certain level of evil

For the common good, we must allow censorship of misinformation. I say Sam has said at least one wrong thing, and has therefore spread misinformation. Therefore, he should be censored.

Just because its not a simple concept doesnt mean he's wrong. If your nation is at war, isnt keeping your troop movements secret part of the common good?

@@jon4139In the same way, spreading misinformation can be done for the common good. There is a lot of misinformation during a war to mislead the enemy after all.

Obfuscation and sophistry. Happy to help 😊

Improve your listening then

If you cannot articulate yourself as well as Russell or Peterson can .. then Harris WILL sound confusing. I am above Russell's articulation, yet Harris makes me sound like a child, but I can follow Harris perfectly, his English command is on point 👍. I know many don't want to hear that, but it's the truth. I can sum up Russells points easily in 1 - 3 sentences. If I tried to sum up Harris's points my sentences would 2x longer than Sam's original. Russell has broken English, similar to how Asian broken English sounds but if they only used bigger words.

I also think Russell Brand's linguistic flair amplifies the perceived depth of his arguments, though at times, his spontaneous choice of words can lead him to new ideas rather than reflecting consistent, premeditated thoughts.

@@jamesswaby5676 👍 agreed. EVERYTIME Jordan Peterson debates Sam, you can see Jordan's nervousness, Jordan looks up to Sam's articulation and wants to play at his level, but he knows he falls short. Russells fans already like Russell, to them he sounds impressive with better at English than themselves, they block out his jumbled speech patterns, only to listen again as he makes the point they agree with. Sam's sentences instantly goes over their head from beginning to end & without a simple sum up they could understand. So all they hear is a confusing bunch of words they don't really understand.

I don’t recall the Democrats threatening Secretaries of State to “find votes”, or assembling a mob of maniacs to go World War Z on Congress to overthrow the country. So, bit of a difference there 😂

Crickets

Ssshhhhhhh

I think his TDS has shown who he really is.

He's not that smart

@@sterlingcooper3978 He never was!

If you're impressed by somebody that's a good sign you are not on their level, meaning Sam is beyond your intellect capabilities, so that literally means you are unable to object to what you think he's saying ...because you don't know what he's saying, you r unable to process it correctly

His justification for lock downs & vaccine mandates is just as insane as his hatred for Trump. He has become nothing but a mouth piece for the establishment.

A narcissist like every materialist

He has many, many times, and will continue to do so because he thinks hes smart enough to make decisions for everyone. Because hey, they don't have free will anyways so he might as well make decisions for them.

Can you be more specific. I don't care about either of these two but the anti-harris comments seem unwarranted in this clip.

@@socialsigh You know when Trump got elected it absolutely broke some peoples minds? Sam Harris is a prime example of that, he never came back. Hes broken. "Trump derangement syndrome". He used to part of the 'intellectual dark web' and has pretty much had a falling out with all of them. He said people were betraying the 'collective' for not getting the jabs. He has now switched sides and not apologized for all his previous nonsense, and he viciously attacked people for thinking differently.. He has been very wrong a lot, and wont own up to it. Hes become an ideologue.

​@socialsigh Literally everything we were told about COVID was to some degree inaccurate or misleading, and those who spotted contradictions from the start were immediately and mercilessly bullied and threatened with loss of everything we needed to survive --- jobs, medical care, even the right to leave our homes to visit a park or a beach. FYI, the first person I heard push back against COVID vaccine mandates was a well-known member of the PCF (French Communists), so don't give me this American culture clash crap. The push to force anthrax vaccines on people in 2001, starting with the military, right after the terrorist attacks, was denounced by all rational people.

lolbert

i believe in God again because of the simulation theory

Any particular point on this 20m segment you find objectionable? I hear an incessant stream of comments on YT and previously on Twitter from people who sound like they've been personally violated by Sam's tone or purported arrogance, but almost never do I hear someone articulate their opposition to something specific he said. Maybe to the one clip on the trig podcast last year... that's about it. Everything else is "I used to be a big fan of Sam but because my new online heros tell me he's worthy of nothing but contempt... I feel that way too and I'm an aethist! Or I'm a lefty! Or I'm a meditator!" ... the comments section here is a shining example of nobody making contact with Sam's stated position during this interview.

@@mountainair I specifically saw Sam in an interview state that he supported censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop affair and that he still stands behind that even though the information was true. That he would do it again to get Biden elected. He stated this in an interview. Go watch it yourself. Therefore, he doesn’t love free speech. I also heard him in this interview call people he disagrees with delusional and indicated that these “delusional “ people deserve to be censored. Therefore, he has no real love for free speech. I don’t care where a person lies on the political spectrum or whether their information is true or not, I SUPPORT THEIR RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH. Because I really do love free speech.

Who did you vote for?

@@ConorSmith-rs7vs Nunya.

did he hurt your feelings

@@KillenEMsoftly Did he hurt yours? Weird way to respond to someone saying something as tame as 'I lost respect for X and Y' if your feelings weren't hurt. Is this you, Sam?

​@@XekTOr89leftards try to use social pressure to gain support because they can't get it through merit. It works with the weak followers, but it makes independent thinkers reject it even more for the dishonest way they go about it..

TDS

@@ym5891no, it’s called being a pharma shill

Sam Harris happened to Sam Harris. I wish it was just TDS...

What's TDS?

Sam never got motherly love because hid mom was busy with her TV career and he developed NPD

how can't you why shouldn't you? You only got this far because the world you live in is built on these systems that are run by all these "evil" people

The absolute homogeneity of people not disagreeing with his arguments, but observing he ceased making logical arguments or even arguing in good faith (intellectual honesty) etc. Someone like Sam should've abused these idiots for statements as RIPE for ridicule as: "trust the science." Science doesn't ask for your trust; it offers evidence & reason & seeks to persuade you. He wants our "faith" restored in institutions that have yet to apologize for lying to us (as people got the vid after being vaxxed they CHANGED the definition!! and pretended natural immunity was INFERIOR to vax that we already saw didn't stop infection nor transmission). At least he knows the only belief we [could] have in them is on faith; because there certainly isn't evidence. Vax companies litigated to conceal evidence for 70 years. And after years of arguing faith is a poor reason to believe in something, he wonders how he lost our respect.

TDS is the worst. By the way, who do you want to be elected President next year?

@@sthubbins4038 Nunya.

He did get a variant of TDS named after him! The Sam Harris Variant is a real career killer.

what’s TDS

@@annaliberated6137 “Trump Derangement Syndrome”. It refers to people who worship Trump above even their own families and country.

Wouldn't that go against your precious 'free speech'?

That's the only part of the conversation that gave me pause. A billion dollars is a lot of money. Any time a lot of money is exchanging hands, there will be many hands trying to grab a piece of the pie.

What argument are you referring to?

I think Sam is a genuine guy with good intentions. I really do. And obviously he’s super intelligent… Doesn’t mean he’s correct

Hey, there was a vacuum there, something had to fill it...

Brilliant Mind 😅 only in yours!

Who on Earth said Harris has a brilliant mind? Brilliant!? He’s just a KZfaqr

Brilliant mind🤣🤣 Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Only if its spelled with "arse"

I see you never met a leftist before. They never admit to being wrong, they just double down.

Easy? 😮 Dig deeper ;)

@@jasonreed1352 It´s only hard, if you carry on lying to yourself. It is our ultimate test, once you go through that humbling experience, it´s easy and liberating x Good luck

@@bitcoinmining6361 Agreed. I have decided that "the first step is a doozy" is an appropriate head's up. Among other tidbits of info. Of course, I refer to deeper applications of newly understood truths than "OMG our leaders are deceptive". 😎🤣

@@jasonreed1352 with you all the way! I think mate, we ALL know the truth deep down. It´s just being able to admit to ourselves. I think Sam is a prefect example of state indoctrinated student, an honest one at that, who is stuck in the trap of infinite extrapolation, as he has never had to apply it to a practical profession, which he needs to experience, before being able to overlay his theories to reality!! Basically he is naive, imo 😀

I guess most people dont have the mental capacity so they stick to the binary good and evil categories.

I’m Batman

The machine got to Sam long ago, you can't see it in the video ;but he has strings attached....

​@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr the establishment owned him day one. From pushing Muslim hate, to Donald Trump derangement to covid propaganda. He's always pushed the establishment line.

​@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkErJoking and jeering aside, his affect does not look healthy.

He can't do it. He really has lost his ability to engage rationally. He constantly commits sophomoric logical fallacies.

He never said we have trust worthy corporations or establishment. He said we NEED them. He even acknowledged we don't have such things and we need to work to recover trust on our institutions.

Well, he was pretty bad before Trump. He's on record saying the Iraq war wasn't such a bad thing and that you can justify torture (US torture program).

@AB-el4zw "course" 👍

I don't think Russell's friends have tried to help him, my understanding is they just avoid him now, I wouldn't want to hang around TDS, all they do is speak about how great Trump is

His ego is too big. He needs to throw some east-west yin yoga in his routine with that meditation.

@@jodihouts6032 and how would east west yin yang rubbish help Russell? He's too far gone with TDS, he seems to love Trump

How

But there's another RB whose VERY important: ROBERT BARNES!!! (you'll thank me).

Russell Brand has never taken a stand on any issue. He's the question guy. Questioning everything doesn't make you any (more) right or wrong.

Sam Harris hasn't lost one bit of respect or credibility.

​@@lifesshortttnot in the mainstream narrative. But there's plenty of informed people here that see through his cognitive dissonance.

The fact that the Left became authoritarian war mongering corpratist is obvious. The dont recognize it because they dont want to.

The absolute homogeneity of people not disagreeing with his arguments, but observing he ceased making logical arguments or even arguing in good faith (intellectual honesty) etc. Someone like Sam should've abused these idiots for statements as RIPE for ridicule as: "trust the science." Science doesn't ask for your trust; it offers evidence & reason & seeks to persuade you. He wants our "faith" restored in institutions that have yet to apologize for lying to us (as people got the vid after being vaxxed they CHANGED the definition!! and pretended natural immunity was INFERIOR to vax that we already saw didn't stop infection nor transmission). At least he knows the only belief we [could] have in them is on faith; because there certainly isn't evidence. Vax companies litigated to conceal evidence for 70 years. And after years of arguing faith is a poor reason to believe in something, he wonders how he lost our respect.

Lol, he's prob the most rational, calculated speaker Ive ever heard

No he's not.

@@greatscott369 if you can’t see you’re not awake

He’s getting saline. He’s a gatekeeper for a certain element carrying this out. Or MK Ultra’d

Either way he’s evil

Poor Richard Dawkins has gone the same way, falling into subhuman conformity after his stroke. We have to judge each and every claim of anyone, no matter how right or wrong they were in the past. After all, anyone might observe something we simply skip...

@@vladcraioveanu233Can't wait to hear Dawkins give a lecture about the evolution of the feminine penis, and how the penis museum in that one nordic country is super bigoted.

Thank god. A comment from someone who actually watched the interview.

​@@scoogsyI watched the full interview, and I disagree. Sam attempts to discuss the needed details but Russell ignores it and goes back to his talking points on repeat 🫤

Meh. One example of a stupid question we dont need an answer to: even if we HAD trustworthy institutions, how could we get people to trust them.... hahahahaaaaaaa this is so effed up

Sam ,wear are are all these Angels

Most of Russels fans are looneys. Especially the ones in the comment section

@@ElUnicoPapiNegrito for sure. It’s wild

Expert debater? I've seen his clock cleaned plenty of time. He comes across as an emotional, lazy thinker.

can you provide examples of when he got his clock cleaned? im curious to know@@robmichael8136

​@@robmichael8136 I used to be a fan of sam, he used to make so much sense and just speak truly but it's apparent that he's been purchased along with so many others.

Just like Obama a classic narcissist who’s says so much without actually saving anything.

Common trait among Dems

Love the sarcasm

Pretty good use of the word

Yeah..... "seems to be"....

Examples like flying around the world in private jets is why you realize that the elites don't practice what they preach to the plebs.

It’s kinda funny how Sam Harris is leaps and bounds smarter than every single rube in this comment section

@@LaffTwousna, he just thinks he is. Which is a major part of the problem.

@@LaffTwous Hes a perfect example of intelligence not equaling wisdom and experience, throw some empathy in there too

@@LaffTwous I agree he’s smarter. But it actually becomes to his weakness and detriment if he thinks it too much himself. There is fair logic in his newfound ongoing criticisms of how people arrive at conclusions, right or wrong, indeed DOES matter. However, on a continuing basis, it will start to matter less and less. And we are clearly at the point where he’s publicly reconciling how the dummies of the world have been right about everything he’s been wrong about and it’s exceedingly clear that Sam doesn’t comprehend that by the 6th or 7th time in a row Alex Jones or some other “nut bar” is correct, it matters a lot less how they drew their conclusions. Eventually it does simply only matter who is right and who is wrong. Sam clearly can’t philosophize his way outta that. He’s very stuck, in the mud, and it shows.

​@@LaffTwousHow would you know that?

But I wonder if he’s been duped, or if he’s actually on board (or on payroll) of the duping agencies.

NEVER!!

Consider that most commenters here so passionately dislike/hate Sam because he challenges their beliefs/ideologies such that they actually routinely show up and flood the comments anywhere Harris shows up on KZfaq. Rarely do any of these comments address the subjects discussed (most don't even watch the clips), but merely attack Sam and spin the narrative ("his legendary TDS", "lost all credibility and half his audience", etc ) in the hopes people come to the conclusion you did by reading their comments. Plenty of us continue to learn and be very inspired by Sam's uncompromising and discerning wisdom. We just don't usually leave comments.

@@PhenomenalWorld Consider most commentators were his fans and now he has disappointed them with his inability to be logical and admit he was wrong. Dont try to muddle the opinions of others

Fantastic. Well observed

Because he is walking a tight rope of saying free speech is an intrinsic good yet we should not let people who disagree speak.

​@@Ryan-lo1kgwhen did he ever say ppl who disagree cant speak? He said both sides need to agree to objective facts before discussion happens