Stop making this a Hip Hop issue when it’s a WORLD issue people

It’s not about how many partners it’s about the age of the partners and consent.

Sir you were 30 something dating a highschool student 😂😂😂😂

I know Envy happy af the heat not on him no more 😂😂😂

He has been studying with yogis in Tibet and meditation hours a day for 10 years. Of course, he can pass a lie detector test.

Russ lives in a "bubble", like many celebrities who want to forget the bad things they've done to people, while ignoring their own character

So according to Lauren, a woman doesn't even have to say NO, but us men are supposed to read her mind? And the biggest problem is that neither one of those men checked her on that.

Not to undercut Kerri’s point, but not everyone understands body language. As women we need to get more comfortable verbalizing when we’re uncomfortable in certain scenarios. We can’t expect people to be mind readers. Bc once a woman says “no” or “I’m uncomfortable” or “I want to leave” that’s when everything needs to shut down.

Take her back tmz she’s making me want to stop watching breakfast club

Certain people shouldn’t speak other people allegations when they have their own to address

There's a reason why we don't use lie detectors for everything, Russ.

I think as women we need to stop making excuses for other women when they come out years later accusing men of assault or harassment. What we need to do is encourage them to speak up in the moment. If you are in a situation where a man or whoever makes you feel uncomfortable speak up then. If you make me feel uncomfortable I am telling you right then and there. You are not going to violate me, harass me and I don't put a stop to it in the moment. By not speaking up, you are basically saying it is okay. Young women speak up you know when a person is making you feel uncomfortable. It doesn't take years to figure out. It doesn't matter who the person is. I was in a situation at a job where the general manager (I was an assistant manager) started doing things that made me uncomfortable. He would walk pass me and purposely rub up against me, make sexual inuendo comments and the final straw I was in the office writing up a report when he walked in and minutes later opened his pants to fix his shirt. I left the office and reported his ass to the district manager. I had only been with the company less than a month and he had been with the company for years. I didn't care about that. All I want was to get out of there. I was moved immediately to another location. I found out months later that I wasn't the first person he had done that to, but I was the first to actually speak up. Within a month he was let go.

If a woman is not feeling you, you'll know immediately. You're lying to yourself if you say that you didn't know.

I had a woman tell me no, so I backed off and a couple of months later she told me she wanted me to keep trying

This has been the most informative and Educative conversation on this show All week

4somes? Russell Simmons was living that wild, “coke life” back in the 80s lol!

That's where Diddy learned it from

I respect what Russ said. No different from what we see now in society. Just wish the women were more honest about the lack of respect for ourselves and situations we may allow ourselves to be in.

00:22 SA Cosby is an _insane_ name

As a woman I understand the feeling of having something done and being uncomfortable without a man realizing that it’s making u uncomfortable. But that’s not fair to a man so just like a man need to learn women need to learn to be vocal as well. I cannot expect a person to be a mind reader it’s unfair

You did great CTG!! And I really loved the interview with Jelly Roll🙏🏼

The fact that he said "they changed the definition" imo means he hasn't learned or really tried to learn the actual definition. It hasn't been changed it's just not the same as what he used to think it was.

As young men growing up in the 90s we were taught how to be players. We had competitions on who could get the most phone numbers and panties...

Hold on Russ, R**e isn’t necessarily violent, but it can be. Coercion is also r**e.

I wish we could talk about this more.

RUSS Fled when the allegations came out, a guilty man wouldn't run, he is waiting for the statutes of limitation to finish

Lets have more of these discussions. DJ Envy. I so appreciate your offering to the conversation. Women need to open their mouths and say so. Like he said, if we are in the thick of things, don't be passive if your mood changes We have heard how women were disappointed because the man wasn't aggressive enough. We all have said one thing but meant/wanted the exact opposite. So if you mean no, say so. A decent man follow your vibe.

Girl (LAUREN), HUSH! Nobody was blessed with the gift of mind reading. If a man--or anyone--is doing something you don't like sexually, SAY SOMETHING! Period. 💯

Can we talk about power dynamics in a male-dominated society? Russell and others are skirting this issue entirely. The culture inhibits women from speaking up because then we are seen as confrontational and there are consequences to that. And Charla, the system is made up of individuals. The system and the culture is people. So yes, individuals do need to face consequences for their actions and be held accountable. That's how change begins.

Charla, you still have pending charges too... Also saying, tearing down a system sounds good but that one person who committed SA is who most ppl look at.

And Whodini also had a track called "One Love" which describes the pitfalls of that bad behavior, so you and the rest knew better....and that's FACTUAL 💯

Hold up. So the woman does not say no, no physical violence and the man has no indication that anything is wrong. How is the man suppose to know? How can they be held accountable for that? Something has to be said.

Russ took advantage of Drew Dixion a former A&r that was on his label. She made a documentary about him

I'm glad Russell Simon talked about this how it was back in the day.

Based on the logic these ladies are giving if two individuals are intimate with one another. The man or the woman can seem to be fine with the encounter but a day later either one of them could claim that it was not consensual for a reason like starting to view the other person as ugly.

I ain’t ever been this early! Good morning everyone 👋🏾

he wouldn't ran to bali if he didn't think any of the stuff would catch up to him...and 😂 about the lie detector stuff. Lie detectors can be fooled.

Does this mean he moved back or is he still hiding out in Bali?

Russ said he spoke to some of his sexual partners very “crudely” and I think that’s what gets a lot of these guys in trouble. Being disrespectful to women they sleep with. It’s no secret that women throw themselves at famous men, but if the guy is an a**hole and treats her like s***t, I can see how that motivates some false allegations later on.

Envy needs to break his silence on Realestate scamming 🤣

@6:37 Lauren continues to absolve women of any responsibility. What is wrong with her

Enough is ENOUGH 🤬 It's time to release The Freaknik Documentary and show these people what "The Climate" was REALLY like Back Then‼️ We Got To Put Everybody's Business On Blast Now 🤨🤣

If you're "uncomfortable", period.. end of story. Your just as accountable from that point on if u stay.

Oh, please!! These men are fully aware of what they're doing 😢 cut it out🙄🙄

It's crazy this is relevant, at the same time you wonder why men stop shooting they shot. It's hard to court in this day and age. Cuz you never want to make someone feel uncomfortable.

coercion is usually always non-violent but can still be over-powering and subversive, "r" is not about being violent its about taking advantage and coercing/controlling in some form.

Men talking “How do you know if the woman is uncomfortable???” As if it’s rocket science. Ask directly…don’t be stupid and assume . And make sure they are age appropriate.

Those women who made allegations also need to be accountable for being in this industry knowing and trying to get themselves in a better position..and now that they're 40 something years old and failed, all of a sudden is a trauma.

love the breakfast club

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A whole lot of they do know you're uncomfortable though, and act like they can't peep game if you're too scared to say no. Yet, they peep game about EVERYTHING else. They keep going, because that's how they get down. Some men actually don't know, but if someone is stiff, not kissing, back stand offish, no giving you the same energy you fuk'n know.

That’s why y’all need to verbalize your feelings if your not comfortable in situations with other people regardless of what 🤔

These conversations can be so easy to have but both sides have to learn to verbalize when you don’t want something to happen.

*diddy gets accused* Russell: Ok I'm ready to talk

Okay Charlamagne!! Loved the piece about him continuing the conversation with an enlightened woman to unpack it from a woman’s perspective with Russell👏🏾👏🏾

We tear down the person and not the system. Sooo true.

6:36. NO. Stop with that nonsense. The problem is YOU did not address it at that moment and then LATER want to blame. If you're not comfortable, it should be cool, just say it, and then it won't fester, there will be no questions, and there won't be something 10 years down the road with an evolving story & narrative. Someone that cares about you will want you to be comfortable. Someone that doesn't tells you he/she is the problem, and you need to think HARD about how YOU pick the people you are with. FFS... What she said at 6:36 is an element of the problem. Ok to be direct and say NO. A guy that doesn't respect that, or a woman that doesn't respect that doesn't really respect you IMO.

These ways I am about to describe can easily set a man up to be taken advantage of AFTER THE FACT. To not verbalize something is problematic. To not want to do something then get talked into it and now you do it over and over is problematic. To do foreplay and a women pushes your finger away because she doesn't want to climax before intercourse is another easy way to switch things around after the fact. Even Cassie. Just because she didn't want to leave a club one night doesn't mean she didn't like the sex with a different guy while it was happening. It's hard to believe if she was dry and crying that any man participating wouldn't stop. I assume that almost all these incidents are not this clear cut. If she didn't go to the police that is problematic especially if she keeps doing it time after time. Not going to the police for selfish reasons is problematic. Doing whatever you don't want to do for your own overall benefit is problematic.

He needs to have this conversation with Sexy Red or any of the thousands of groupies chasing rappers right now because that’s the type of woman he was dealing with at the time..

The growth. Man's was sniffing seats.

Me to movment social media is still like that today

The ladies should have elaborated more on what they were saying and Charla/Envy should have pushed back more. Men are not mind readers and you cant assume that we know that you are uncomfortable unless you say something or you make it very obvious like pushing the guy off or getting up.

I always tell my grandson to read the room. I find it really funny how these major players cannot discern when they are aggressive or manipulative when it comes to others. I think that someone that has had all the time in the world to practice meditation and of course he will pass a lie detector test. This is part of his implicit guilt. He ran away to a country that will not expedite him. If he had any faith in his truth or believed in what he’s saying he would be here standing up for his rights.

But it's still going on to this day. The only thing that's changed is that we don't brag about it. It's more about women's nature than culture. If you have money, they tolerate whatever you want to do.

No...mean no.... I remember old school men's said Women really mean yes...so women now say STOP! now men's say you are a joke... Some men's really don't take this seriously.

Amanda Seales is the wrong person to quote CTG. She falsely accused someone

As a man we are doomed if you get married & she decide to leave you’re hit with child support,alimony& half of everything if you’re famous you can be accused of S/A

3:22 Preach bruh. Heads of labels when artists that are told to push content get caught up, gun manufacturers that are never brought up for applying their own regulations after multiple situations that involve the misuse of their products. Yes. We need to zoom out & look at the bigger picture. We’re self centered creatures so it’s difficult. It’s hard when so many contracts are in place. Both unspoken within society & within businesses.

My thing is, if ur uncomfortable just leave. That person is not holding you down or stopping you from leaving, then get up outta there.

How is it possible that Russell Simmons opened his mouth and made himself look WORSE? I mean actually confirmed that he is a creep?

She said body language just say how you feeling we can't read minds.

Charlemagne need to talk about the girl he was accused of

We need to realize predators aren’t looking for permission- they look past it

They keep blaming the culture. Culture doesn't exist without people. Who created this disgusting culture in hip-hop towards women? Black men? Rappers? Executives? People like to blame systems yet are the first to perpetuate said system for money and fame.

She said "even if someone doesn't say no, and they come back and say, in that moment, I was uncomfortable...". See, this is where many women actually stand on this topic and honestly, it makes very little sense. How can anyone have sex with anyone else anymore knowing that a person can come back 10-20 years later and say you assualted them? Many of these women seek these men out, at odd hours, in hotel rooms, and know what they are getting into. It's actually their lifestyle. The excuse of being young and naive next to a powerful man is overused to excuse their desire to be with a powerful/well-known man and/or their use of sex to social climb. That goes for the actresses who let hideous men have sex with them so they can get movie roles, deals, and cameos. Then, after they profit from their deeds, they feel dirty and come back with accusations that they were forced. I call bs on some of this. As well, the public automatically assumes that bc groups of women come forward with the same stories, that it must be true. That may be the case in other crimes, but when it comes to rich men and SA, it also makes sense that any woman who slept with him would come forward to capitalize on a possible payday. He slept with so many women, that women who didnt sleep with him could lie about it and he'd have to take their word for it. The same race to the money occurs in almost all class action lawsuits, regardless of the crime. That doesn't make a person guilty in cases like this.

Cause And Effect .... And Still Staying Accountable For Self..... Respect Him.....

Oh the heat is still on Envy, Toni C was on the other day with the Lead Attorney 😮

Envy is right. At the moment If you are intimate with a person and at that moment you aren’t comfortable you say no , stop i don’t like that, get off of me etc: you don’t wait until the next day or the next decade you say it right there and then. No or stop if the person continues that is then considered SA

As the mother of a son I do not like that some women assume that men are supposed to be mind readers…we are constantly being told that men & women communicate differently….with that being said women need to be direct about what they want or don’t want and/or are comfortable with or not comfortable with….when you are honest & direct it leaves NO room for misinterpretation. I am also speaking as someone that is very familiar with sexual assault…I truly have empathy for those that have been violated but I do not agree with those that claim to be when they were along for the ride & because things didn’t go the way they wanted after the act want to claim abuse (I believe that is what he was trying to say when he mentioned the way he had spoken to some of the women he encountered)

People keep saying russ fled, Yall do realize they can still investigate even if he isn't available for questioning.

The culture is still the same today. Listen to any current female rapper, and they still promote this on themselves.

You can’t prosecute or hold “culture” accountable for its actions. However, culture is created and upheld by individuals that can absolutely be held accountable. Those pillars must be toppled before culture can be changed. Notice Russell didn’t answer the question that was asked. There’s a reason his own daughters don’t rock with him.

That was a good conversation! and some very valid points made... They should definitely have a Russ up for a convo. if he'll come out of hiding lol.

What he mean "we" 😂😂 nah B!

Eboni k needs to interview him

Did Lauren say Gray ham instead of Graham???

I had to tell a guy that he was making me very uncomfortable. He was "hurt" because he didn't think that he would do that, but imagine how I felt. Am I going to have to fight this man? Where's the nearest exit?

Finally a man who is actually telling the truth about himself during those times. It also shows why no one is clamoring to tell their stories cuz they were with these men voluntarily. It also shows why a lot of people are skeptical because we remember lines around the corner to be with these men

Lets talk about the fact that the culture is still there. Check the music that all of you on this show listens to and encorage!!

Damn they just sent me a rush card😢

SMH......... Who is theses two women??????

I've always said that we men do what other men tell us to get women, and what is successful in getting women. That maybe inadvertenly cross lines and overstep bounds "go for what you want" "Tell her what she wants to hear" and women "You gotta make the first move" etc Guys try things and it can work on some but make other women uncomfortable. Add in money, arrogance, power and you have guys hitting on their employees, stylists etc and the women are afraid to say no #Metoo movement, or the average guys like us trying what works and women get irritated along the way

It's not like it happened in 2017 and the accusations just came out. The accusations came out in 2017 and 6 almost 7 years later he proclaiming his innocence???

Man I know charlamagne is not opening his mouth on this topic cause what he did to ol girl is crazy

This show is shifting to protecting these men & it’s crazy!! Russel knew he shouldn’t have done what he done. We all have a CONSCIOUS & know right from wrong! Don’t blame the culture. Are we going to give racist people a pass because it was “The Culture”

Bro can breakdown but still won't convince me

I know a woman who went to a man’s home. He takes his gun out of the holster, put it on the nightstand and proceeded to take his clothes off. She didn’t want to have secks with him but she didn’t feel like it was safe to say no.

Each woman is different. And have different experiences with men, which can cause some uncomfortable situations. That's why we must communicate.

It's very simple if somebody is getting handsy with you instead of saying no. I'm good and walking away. You say no. Don't touch me. It's that simple

Have a blessed, beautiful weekend Sincerely Angela xoxoxo 🌺🌸💖💜