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Russian 1895 Nagant Revolver

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@jeffreytam7684
@jeffreytam7684 5 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how Ian does not age. Six years later he looks and sounds the same.
@RomiWadaKatsu
@RomiWadaKatsu 4 жыл бұрын
mother nature is scared of him because he has too many weapons
@jussayinmipeece1069
@jussayinmipeece1069 4 жыл бұрын
there is a reason they call him gun Jesus...
@alknl8967
@alknl8967 4 жыл бұрын
Gun people dont age look at hickok45 looks the same for the past 10 years
@mokaplittle6543
@mokaplittle6543 4 жыл бұрын
Koz he does what he loves and he loves what he does. He happy. And not smoking the bad mariwahna
@PeXis
@PeXis 4 жыл бұрын
That's why he hasn't forgotten these weapons. He has used them all over the centuries.
@11Kralle
@11Kralle 8 жыл бұрын
This was literally THE template for plastic toy-guns in East-Germany! I know every detail of it - in dark green pvc...
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 8 жыл бұрын
+11Kralle I had a plastic toy of it as a young boy in the USA as well, lol.
@turdsandwich7490
@turdsandwich7490 4 жыл бұрын
CoDGplays how is he dumb lmao
@laurentiu.panait2536
@laurentiu.panait2536 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeathBringer769 Was it California restricted lol no offence
@RJRyenolds
@RJRyenolds 4 жыл бұрын
@CoDGplays Silence peasant. Everybody wants to be American, they settle for lesser country's because the men are weak and that makes them less competitive.
@jameskosusnik1102
@jameskosusnik1102 4 жыл бұрын
@CoDGplays lmao such a hypocrite, calls americans dumb yet is subscribed to americans. You're a waste of space over there in Deutscheland.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 11 жыл бұрын
No, a steel-to-steel fit wouldn't be gastight. The case is needed to bridge the gap into the barrel so that the brass can expand under pressure to form a gas seal.
@5anjuro
@5anjuro 8 жыл бұрын
The Nagant revolver was still being issued in the USSR long after WW2, to non-military and non-police personnel like armed security guards, postal and bank clerks (in some locations Sberkassa/Sberbank clerks handling cash were armed with them), even mineral exploration parties operating in remote locations. That practice continued well into the late Soviet period and into perestroika. The idea was that these folks needed something simple and reliable, that would not jam like a semiauto and didn't require much training, something "civilian". I think the last time I saw a Nagant was in the mid-1990s or early 2000s on a Special Courier Mail ("Spetssviaz") officer - they often handled valuables and sensitive communication. By mid 2000s-2010s it all but disappeared, as the police and armed security services kept expanding and were getting more and more firepower. Many security functions are now performed by the specialized branches of the police forces and they have all manner of modern weaponry.
@slavikgolopolosov74
@slavikgolopolosov74 5 жыл бұрын
This revolver was produced since 1895
@melaniel.4269
@melaniel.4269 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised. When it comes to weaponry, the russians were always 20-30 years behind time and relied on outdated shit. That even goes all the way back to the Russo-Ottoman war, where the Ottomans used american Winchester Repeater, causing massive loses to the russians who still only had single shot rifles like the crappy Berdan. Same way in the second world war when they were shocked to death about the StG44 which they immediately (badly) copied because all they had was still crap from World War 1. The Russians were always a joke. Not just because of their antique weapons though.
@jakeiota
@jakeiota 4 жыл бұрын
@@melaniel.4269 It's funny to hear such ridicule against the Russians, if you remember that the US military used the Colt 1911 until 1985 (and the complete rearmament of the army only happened in the early 90's)
@vulpesinculta3593
@vulpesinculta3593 4 жыл бұрын
@@melaniel.4269 ain't you a joke, Melanie?
@melaniel.4269
@melaniel.4269 4 жыл бұрын
@@vulpesinculta3593 OK boomer
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 11 жыл бұрын
The S&W revolving rifles were not gas seal designs, which is a large part of why they were such a commercial failure.
@Yeti-db8qd
@Yeti-db8qd 10 ай бұрын
Actually using this technology would make some amazing revolving rifles for some recreational shooting and awesome gimmick firearms
@kilerkane
@kilerkane 4 жыл бұрын
It honestly seems like it'd be FASTER to pull out the cylinder, load it, then put it back in.
@Gaehhn
@Gaehhn 4 жыл бұрын
have multiple cylinders and have someone reload them as you shoot
@jameslawrie3807
@jameslawrie3807 3 жыл бұрын
Late reply. Nagant made the model 1910 with a swing-out cylinder so I think everyone back then totally agreed with you.
@CurtHowland
@CurtHowland 4 жыл бұрын
Occasionally going back to the earlier videos shows just how much better production has gotten over time. Thank you, Ian!
@letmeouttamycage
@letmeouttamycage 8 жыл бұрын
Always thought it was cool how it has 7 not 6 shots just to be one better than the other revolvers
@Troacoli
@Troacoli 5 жыл бұрын
number 7 was saved for yourself so you don't get caught by nazis.
@trickydick2909
@trickydick2909 5 жыл бұрын
@Cliff Yablonski If you can still find surplus rounds you will find they are much hotter than commercial loads. Still no hand cannon but certainly adequate.
@salvadorsempere1701
@salvadorsempere1701 5 жыл бұрын
Not so anemic. +/- at the level of a 38spl or a 9mm Makarov. 6.5g at 300m/s for 300J Dont let that the current loads of today fools you. The original militar charge it´s no joke.
@salvadorsempere1701
@salvadorsempere1701 5 жыл бұрын
The original spec of 38 special was 10.5g at 260m/s from a 19 cm barrel. Lets say 230m/s from a 11cm barrel like the nagant. That stands for 270Joules. 10% less energy that the Nagant round @Cliff Yablonski
@Xenoforge78
@Xenoforge78 5 жыл бұрын
@Cliff Yablonski How exactly can a cartridge be anemic?
@oxode
@oxode 10 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact of the russian Nagant revolver is, that in several balkan states, like Romania, You can get amunition chambering silver bullets for this gun.
@taistelusammakko5088
@taistelusammakko5088 7 жыл бұрын
Revolver isnt a good weapon for werewolf hunting tho
@erlycuyler
@erlycuyler 5 жыл бұрын
Really?! Cool.
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@erlycuyler
@erlycuyler 4 жыл бұрын
@@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax werewolves and vampires.
@jR-nc1uz
@jR-nc1uz 4 жыл бұрын
@@taistelusammakko5088 do you see a lot of werewolfs running around romania? No? That's what I thought
@jamesmortimer4016
@jamesmortimer4016 4 жыл бұрын
Tzarist: Only doubleaction for people who bought a rank Bolsheviki: DOUBLEACTION FOR EVERYONE!
@Alvaro89Rus
@Alvaro89Rus 4 жыл бұрын
the logic was actually kinda like " with single action untrained low rank will value every shot and aim better".)
@angelsfallfirst7348
@angelsfallfirst7348 4 жыл бұрын
Bolsheviki: Double action in the back of the head for every political prisoner!
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 4 жыл бұрын
The Tzarist logic was actually based of speed of production as they were having trouble producing enough to supply whole army with at the time.
@ryanwhelan4100
@ryanwhelan4100 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelsfallfirst7348 says the dude with a runic symbol the nazis used
@angelsfallfirst7348
@angelsfallfirst7348 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwhelan4100 Indeed.
@BreadApologist
@BreadApologist 9 жыл бұрын
....that poor defenseless napkin ..
@5HREDD3R
@5HREDD3R 9 жыл бұрын
+Liono liony Yes. This napkin deserves it's second amendment rights too.
@tmreb1
@tmreb1 9 жыл бұрын
Grabs pen draws a glock on the napkin
@blackjack9612
@blackjack9612 8 жыл бұрын
a napkin killed my dog
@robertueberfeldt789
@robertueberfeldt789 8 жыл бұрын
+Liono liony Children in Africa could have built a house with that napkin.
@BreadApologist
@BreadApologist 8 жыл бұрын
Robert Ueberfeldt #napkinlivesmatter
@thurin84
@thurin84 9 жыл бұрын
shouldnt you call it a triple action since the trigger pull cocks the hammer, rotates the cylinder, AND cams the cylinder forward?
@sdivine13
@sdivine13 5 жыл бұрын
No, a daewoo dh40 and 51 are triple action
@taggartlawfirm
@taggartlawfirm 5 жыл бұрын
milcoll73 wellllll I think they should call it “no action,” no decent woman ever dated a guy who carried a edit - nagant, but it’s still true
@sdivine13
@sdivine13 5 жыл бұрын
@@taggartlawfirm fair enough, but only because I cant say shut up commie
@Pajdas610
@Pajdas610 4 жыл бұрын
@@taggartlawfirm What is that supposed to mean sir?
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 4 жыл бұрын
@@taggartlawfirm It's NOT a Mosin. It's a Nagant. Comrade Mosin had nothing to do with it.
@Troacoli
@Troacoli 6 жыл бұрын
I should have bought one of these back when they were like $80.
@captainwolf3805
@captainwolf3805 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one in the us for 300
@alanmalan3819
@alanmalan3819 4 жыл бұрын
This was most popular gun of revolution mafias and mafias in Soviet Union
@tdestroyer4780
@tdestroyer4780 4 жыл бұрын
I seen one for sale $150 in 2011.
@тамбовский_волк
@тамбовский_волк 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting review, thank you! As a Russian born and raised in the USSR until emigrating, I can add that it's not that forgotten in Russia. Christened in Russia simply as "nagan[t]" ('t' is not pronounced in nagant in Russian, these guns were widely used by the Soviet civilian security (VOHR) - it was a standard issue of guards securing military factories and similar facilities at least until the end of the 80-s. Could be longer, but I stopped working at one of those factories in 89, so I cannot be sure. In fact, it may be still used by then these days, I wouldn't be surprised.
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 70's now and sold off all of my firearms to prevent hardship to my wife after I am gone. But this revolver makes me want to start collecting again. I will collect vicariously through your videos.
@Julian-oo7fp
@Julian-oo7fp 4 жыл бұрын
That’s sad, how big was your collection before you started selling them?
@MrTarantino80
@MrTarantino80 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of imperial legacy pieces, along with the Mosin's rifle, which remained in the USSR up until post-WWII times. Became one of symbols of Russian Civil War, used by both sides (the Red, the White, also different bands and anarchists). It still had been being manufactured during WWII (simple construction, low production costs).
@F1zzler
@F1zzler 2 жыл бұрын
And hits like a mofo at appropriate distance)
@lostinrage0
@lostinrage0 9 жыл бұрын
You make it look fairly easy to shoot double action, I own one and you need two grizzly bears and a Clydesdale to pull the trigger.
@regmason2329
@regmason2329 6 жыл бұрын
VERY TRUE!!!
@donkeykong5584
@donkeykong5584 5 жыл бұрын
@Léo Mutombo what are you doing here
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 4 жыл бұрын
Soviets refurbished a lot of guns in the 50s, made most of them worse by lacquering the hell out of them. The original doesn't have a perfect trigger pull but it's a great deal smoother and a good deal lighter.
@davidkohler7454
@davidkohler7454 3 жыл бұрын
I actually love these little revolvers. They are slow to load and unload. But you get 7 shots of very mild recoil. And very accurate IMO. I have 4 different variations, and a big lifetime supply of cheap surplus ammo.. They were cheap and easy to find when this video was made, but in 2020. I rarely ever see one at a shop or a show..
@letsgoiowa
@letsgoiowa 9 жыл бұрын
This system would also make it an ideal candidate for a revolver rifle. Impractical, but it would work.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 9 жыл бұрын
letsgoiowa you want to know something interesting? izhmash did that its markted as a "target" gun
@agoogleaccount2861
@agoogleaccount2861 5 жыл бұрын
Some shop in America specializes in carbines from them and custom cylinders in other calibers
@drdnout
@drdnout 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was a carbine version of this revolver, but small experimental numbers. Barrel is ≈ half meter long.
@sirmissalot8065
@sirmissalot8065 4 жыл бұрын
there is a version of this in the game hunt showdown named "nagant officer carabine"
@hawkeyepierce2017
@hawkeyepierce2017 3 жыл бұрын
And silenced
@splintercell323
@splintercell323 4 жыл бұрын
nothing like those satisfying clicks when rotating the cylinder during loading
@drrocketman7794
@drrocketman7794 5 жыл бұрын
One of the only revolvers that can be successfully fitted with a suppressor. I've shot one of those!
@evanbarrows2413
@evanbarrows2413 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering exactly that. thank you for answering my question
@drrocketman7794
@drrocketman7794 4 жыл бұрын
@@evanbarrows2413 , it's the fact that the cylinder slides forward to contact the forcing cone, and the mouth of the cartridge case projects into it. When fired, the projectile pushes open the case mouth, sealing the cylinder gap and preventing any gas (and sound) from escaping. Therefore, when fitted with a suppressor at the muzzle, it works.
@DavidPutraØP
@DavidPutraØP 4 жыл бұрын
PUBG lol
@djnevling8253
@djnevling8253 4 жыл бұрын
Noobwreckspros Fps it’s in the Metro games too.
@YourRulerSkeletos
@YourRulerSkeletos 10 жыл бұрын
That napkin getting destroyed in 1 frame was really funny for some reason.
@OlOleander
@OlOleander 6 жыл бұрын
Skeletus Flavourus I agree!
@Orbis92
@Orbis92 5 жыл бұрын
I came here because of the computer game "Hunt:Showdown" which has a silenced Nagant revolver. I was quite skeptical when I first saw this, because I knew of the cylinder gap with revolvers... Thanks for showing us this quite unique gun :)
@jackclarke7584
@jackclarke7584 9 жыл бұрын
i duno theres something i really like about the guy demonstrating this... you no the kinda feeling you got with the cool teacher back at school fun but still learning ....i live in uk and have no access to any firearm of the sort and i find watchin these videos wicked lwell informational historic firearms of all sort i pretty much wouldnt see at all of or even no of there exsitantce will defently keep watchin
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 9 жыл бұрын
yeah me too.
@mr420quickscops2
@mr420quickscops2 5 жыл бұрын
3 Years later and still the only channel it is fun and educational to watch, above all others
@GiantToad666
@GiantToad666 10 жыл бұрын
Hey, man! You have good diction, I am russian speaker but able to recognize and understand. Good overview, kind regards!
@OCTO358
@OCTO358 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rettungssocke nyet ti. I peredavai privyet mame.
@edg6779
@edg6779 5 жыл бұрын
Говорите по-русски лол
@2hillsinbetween
@2hillsinbetween 4 жыл бұрын
Sergey Zhuravski well you failed
@jakartagamer6188
@jakartagamer6188 4 жыл бұрын
@@2hillsinbetween pretty good I'd say
@sillylittleowlguy2392
@sillylittleowlguy2392 4 жыл бұрын
Samal Sais Mohamed gonna be honest, I’ve met native born brits who are more indecipherable
@codywright7932
@codywright7932 3 жыл бұрын
Shooting stars : *0_0* Shooting Tsars : *8D*
@shark180
@shark180 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted one of those so badly when they were like 100 bucks, missed my chance on finding one cheap. I had planned to use one as my concealed carry firearm until I learned the what the reloading procedure was.
@thumba-umba2699
@thumba-umba2699 8 жыл бұрын
I've heard stories that ruski's ammo made pre-WW1 had such tough cases, that you didn't even need the rod to extract them - just open the window and rotate the cylinder.
@rudischulz4017
@rudischulz4017 5 жыл бұрын
Thumba - Umba if it was steel cased that certainly wouldn’t surprise me
@emeralddragongaming2930
@emeralddragongaming2930 4 жыл бұрын
That's true I saw som of it , and also they were much more powerful than the new factory made by Fiocchi or Prvi Partizan
@chocolatemilk2076
@chocolatemilk2076 4 жыл бұрын
A very fun revolver.
@Beamos12
@Beamos12 10 жыл бұрын
I hate how the companies that import guns scratch their names and serial numbers on guns like that. Mine is on the other side and it almost takes up the whole side plate with their name and the caliber and whatnot. Why can't they put it on the inside of the frame? It's a real eye sore.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 10 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the ATF requires specific markings (caliber, country of origin, serial number, importer name, and importer location) to be conspicuously marked on the frame of all imported guns. It's not up to the companies, and they would much rather not do it.
@Beamos12
@Beamos12 10 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons huh. Didn't think about that. It still takes away from the general look and feel of it. Makes it look like a new gun instead of an older gun. Thankfully the markings on my 91/30 are a little more discreet and better looking. My nagant revolver looks like someone took a hammer and nail and went to town on it.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 10 жыл бұрын
Thomas Myers Yeah...over time the requirements have gotten stricter, resulting in much uglier import marks. They used to allow marking on the barrel, and in smaller font - you'll find a lot of older imports marked very discreetly underneath the muzzle. But no more. :(
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Is it legal to remove them once the guns in your possession?
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 9 жыл бұрын
toomanyaccounts Lucky guy, mabey when they are shipping them in in crates they missed a few
@user-ot1uk8iy1t
@user-ot1uk8iy1t 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely put! Only couple things to add: It is 7.62 because barrels for Mosin riffles were used to make those revolvers, and shorter so-called "NKVD" version ... Also, it was produced during WWII because it was more handy to shoot from armored vehicles that TT if crew is in trouble.
@stephenweaver7631
@stephenweaver7631 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is a dated video, but I have to add (and I didn't go through all the comments, so it may already be on here) that the "pin" on the trigger is not to advance the cylinder forward, it simply is the lock to hold the cylinder in alignment with the bore. The mechanism that cams the cylinder forward is a wedge that acts on a block at the back of the cylinder that the firing pin protrudes through. When the hammer is cocked in either double- or single-action, the wedge is pushed upward and forces the block against the base of the cartridge. I've disassembled mine any times to study the action. It's part of what gives the gun such a heavy trigger-pull! Great video!
@carolwilson5348
@carolwilson5348 10 ай бұрын
I have a 1925 dated one. I stoned that little block that pushes the cylinder forward just enough to fit 32-20 brass. I cast 95 gr, "boollits" with a little Alliant Bullseye and have a cheap fun plinker.
@frailty7280
@frailty7280 4 жыл бұрын
I love how even years and years ago Ian's showmanship always holds up. how he's been such a talented host for so long escapes me.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 11 жыл бұрын
Nope, not even close. A .38 is roughly 9mm, while the M1895 has a 7.62mm barrel.
@donnybrookinhooligan1088
@donnybrookinhooligan1088 5 жыл бұрын
I've just recently come across an example of this odd gun, never fired and in as new condition. Ammo was part of the deal. I've learned quite alot since I've found this channel. Thank you Ian
@indiomoustafa2047
@indiomoustafa2047 6 жыл бұрын
I love these old intros, they remind me of school videos in the 80's or somebodys collage they made in Movie Maker. Its got a nice aesthetic. Just like the nagant revolver in fact. Vintage and pleasing to the eye in sort of an ugly way.
@MrEvan312
@MrEvan312 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy because in PUBG, you can attach a suppressor to this revolver and I always wondered "if you're gonna give a revolver that feature, why THIS exact revolver given that it's not the fastest to reload or use?" Well, knowing that it incorporates a proper gas seal around the chamber which prevents a bunch of noise as gas escapes, which would normally render a suppressor useless, it'd work on this one. Thanks, Ian!
@Verax-2
@Verax-2 7 ай бұрын
This revolver actually had a silencer in reality. If I'm not confusing anything, then this is the only revolver with a silencer.
@stephenweaver7631
@stephenweaver7631 9 жыл бұрын
Ian, one correction. I've disassembled my Nagant many times, and it is not the trigger pawl that pushes the cylinder forward. The trigger pawl is strictly a lock, as on other revolvers, to keep the cylinder aligned with the bore. There is a block, that amounts to a breech block, that is actuated by a vertical sliding wedge. When the trigger is pulled, the wedge moves up and the block is pushed forward against the rear of the cylinder. Looking closely at the rear frame (with the cylinder removed) one can see this block with its corresponding hole for the firing pin. It is the trigger spring, the sliding wedge, the cylinder return spring, and the robust hammer spring that gives the Nagant such a heavy trigger pull. A lot of moving parts for one motion!
@user-bk4ux9rv3t
@user-bk4ux9rv3t 6 ай бұрын
My grandpa, who was a tank driver during WW2, once said that you could safely shoot only Nagan out of a tank.
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 4 жыл бұрын
These are fun little plinkers! When WWII started, Russia had tons of refurbed Nagant revolvers in storage. They were still tooling up for Tokarev TT-33 production, so they distributed huge quantities of Nagant revolvers until TT-33 production was up to speed. SO many Nagant revolvers were issued in WWII that the Russian name for a pistol in WWII was "Nagant"-John in Texas
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 10 жыл бұрын
In the European sense of sidearms they were basically a badge of authority like a sword.Officers in the Imperial Russian Army and the Imperial Navy either bought or were issued limited contract Mauser C96s instead of the standard issue 1895 Nagant Revolvers.The Bolsheviks bought a lot of "Bolo" model short barreled C96s in the early 20s after their revolution.The Russian Communists realized that semi auto pistols were much better than slow reloading revolvers.The Russians still kept production of the Nagant revolvers until the end of WWII or later despite the issue of the Tokerev 33 pistol which is a simple Browning design with no manual safety.No matter how underpowered their handgun calibers are like the 7.62 Nagant,7.62 Tokerev,and the 9mm Makarov.they are still effective for personal defense as a 9mm Parabellum or a.45 ACP.The pistol is still the badge of authority in most eastern European countries.
@jotjotpoland2696
@jotjotpoland2696 10 жыл бұрын
The Nagant revolvers are still used today, mostly by security agencies.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 10 жыл бұрын
I would not doubt it.They are still effective despite their design.
@amyhuk
@amyhuk 10 жыл бұрын
the commies mass produced this for one reason and one reason only. to GIVE THEM AWAY to leftist sympathy revolutionarys. they wanted to arm segments of the civilian population in right wing govts then if they had to come in and take control they wouldn't meet much opposition. as these guns are anemic as hell. and if the revolutionaries died in the process? who cares? life is cheap to the communists. in your YT browser type "the checkist" its an our and 40 mins of killing people with nagant revolvers and hoisting the dead bodys by their heals. the movie was made in 1992 but was based on actual events in 1922-23. they had to wait till communism collapsed to be able to tell the story.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 10 жыл бұрын
amyhuk I agree.I cant find "The Checklist" movie.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 10 жыл бұрын
amyhuk Never mind i did find it.Its called "The Chekist" for the Cheka secret police during the Revolution.
@Mattebubben
@Mattebubben 9 жыл бұрын
Not a Briliant combat weapon but perfect for its main purpose... Shooting Traitors to the motherland...
@pommel47
@pommel47 9 жыл бұрын
I own 2 that are incredibly inaccurate. But like you said, their main use was for execution of unarmed POWs, Enemies of the State(Stalin), and suicide.
@Mattebubben
@Mattebubben 9 жыл бұрын
then again russians dont really like "accurate" weapons ^^ Shoot enough rounds and u will hit in the end.
@Brokkolesz
@Brokkolesz 9 жыл бұрын
Mattebubben I disagree, most Russian weapons are a lot more accurate and effective than it's opponents claim.
@bowmen08
@bowmen08 9 жыл бұрын
Malacovics Actually Russians prefer combination of raw firepower with precision (Mosin, SKS, SVT), or, when the latter is impossible, even more raw firepower (AK). Also, make it as squaddy-proof as possible.
@mikerotch3600
@mikerotch3600 7 жыл бұрын
By "old AK with a slightly longer barrel" I assume you mean an SVD, which is not an AK.
@Shane-Singleton
@Shane-Singleton 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not a very big fan of revolvers in general but I do have one of these and it is a very valued part of my collection.
@destructionpro5183
@destructionpro5183 9 ай бұрын
my 1940 Nagant Revolver is beautiful it pairs well with my 1944 M44 Mosin Nagant
@e.c.9468
@e.c.9468 7 жыл бұрын
Quality of belgian developpers, as usual very good !
@TheHitman644
@TheHitman644 5 жыл бұрын
Still have one. It was manufactured and printed in 1940s with USSR Star on it.
@Franky46Boy
@Franky46Boy 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful how Ian demonstrates the cylinder-gap in most revolvers!
4 жыл бұрын
For me, all of these (Nagant, Mosin-Nagant, etc) trigger memories of Silent Storm. Always. Played that quite a bit before any WWI/II FPS.
@nickbellworks9231
@nickbellworks9231 4 жыл бұрын
silent storm is masterfully fun!! panzerkleins were kinda silly tho
@UltimateUnnamed
@UltimateUnnamed 7 жыл бұрын
Hey its still faster then a Reichsrevolver
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 7 жыл бұрын
We should test one against the other! (Or rather, let Ian do it) Sometimes, comparisons like these are the most entertaining to watch.
@Wexxor
@Wexxor 6 жыл бұрын
Reichsrevolver was singleaction
@bushwhackedonvhs
@bushwhackedonvhs 6 жыл бұрын
Punkt In good hands, that rarely matters. Double action is useful because it's more reflexive, not because it's necessarily faster. Neither will give stellar accuracy with quick fire.
@wetlettuce4768
@wetlettuce4768 4 жыл бұрын
Reichsrevolver is the greatest club that also has an added gun feature.
@angelsfallfirst7348
@angelsfallfirst7348 4 жыл бұрын
Reichrevolver is faster than all contemporary revolvers. Or that's what Reichrevolverphiles such as myself would tell you.
@d4rkhound388
@d4rkhound388 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they dont use similar systems on other revolvers... It would be cool to have a suppressable 44 magnum :)
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 8 жыл бұрын
i prefer to keep my fingers :)
@d4rkhound388
@d4rkhound388 8 жыл бұрын
MrPanos2000 the fuck you on about?
@baker90338
@baker90338 8 жыл бұрын
The issue is the reloading and the trigger, the reloading takes to long, while the trigger is bad
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 8 жыл бұрын
Baker Tankersley which makes my finger sad
@d4rkhound388
@d4rkhound388 8 жыл бұрын
Okay people are complaining about the trigger pull but would prefer to use a revolver that does not have a gas seal which is capable of severing your fingers? I would prefer this to a gun that could sever my finger.
@normsaw2225
@normsaw2225 10 жыл бұрын
The best video i saw concerning the Nagant pistol! Thanks you!!
@meltedplasticarmyguy
@meltedplasticarmyguy 5 жыл бұрын
I've had 2 of these (at various times) and loved each one. I got pretty proficient at rapid firing in double action and fairly accurate as well. I loved taking it out to the range and (it always happens) eventually some young, inexperienced shooters start eyeing it. So of course I graciously offered them a chance to try it all the while talking about the wartime history of these fine revolvers. Watching them eat that up is almost as enjoyable as actually firing it. Sadly, I was forced to sell them off along with the rest of my collection (financial hardship).
@fivestars20
@fivestars20 9 жыл бұрын
Still in service in some Russian security firms...
@Xspy70
@Xspy70 6 жыл бұрын
Like what?
@avrorik369
@avrorik369 6 жыл бұрын
Not in security firms. Security firms are legally limited to handguns chambered for .38 ACP and only that. The Nagant is used by security divisions of state corporations such as Russian Railroads.
@va5715
@va5715 5 жыл бұрын
@@avrorik369 What a load of rubbish, there .38 ACP is not being used by Russian government at all. The most common is 9mm Makarov followed by 7.62 TT/Mauser round.
@user-vy9lp5oj8h
@user-vy9lp5oj8h 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, u have the wrong opinion about Russians..
@elusive6119
@elusive6119 5 жыл бұрын
@@avrorik369 True, but Private Guards use Service weapons with their own differences. Mostly 9x17 kurts and shotguns. Although there may be a difference, but this is the most common. Also, Russian Railways and Russian Post are states in the state and have the right to use service weapons. And Nagan at the old postman is not surprising since the mail deals with large sums of money, securities. They are also closely associated with government agencies, logistics and mobilization. And Nagan is just a precaution; they have legal access to any weapons and powers that they may need.
@VSO_Gun_Channel
@VSO_Gun_Channel 11 жыл бұрын
I Enjoyed your commentary. Spectre
@SunG0D936
@SunG0D936 4 жыл бұрын
The design itself just looks so pure functional and steampunk I love it
@ragingsloth6605
@ragingsloth6605 6 жыл бұрын
First 5 seconds sounds like the opening beat to the most fire mix tape of the 1900’s
@ElijahDecker
@ElijahDecker 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, you know you can suppress that, right? *dodges thrown objects*
@douglasgault5458
@douglasgault5458 4 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the late 60s early 70s these things were always under a $15.00 bill and next to nothing in paper work.
@GrenadierV
@GrenadierV 6 жыл бұрын
I got one way back for under $100. At that time I could not find ammo for it so when I saw an add in Shotgun News advertising a cylinder that would let you shoot 32 ACP in your Nagant I bought it. I put a box of 32 through it and it went into the safe. I just love those old revolvers, I have to keep company to the Nagant an 1873 11mm French and the 1892 8mm also French service revolvers as well as a Webley .38 top break DA/SA Hong Kong Police with a weird safety on the frame.
@almartin4159
@almartin4159 9 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I am politically handy capped. I cannot go to a shooting range. I love firearms history and the development of rifles and pistols. I cannot hold these treasures in my own hands but you have provided me with an indispensable tool with which I can enjoy my love of firearms through my eyes and ears.THANK YOU !!!!!!!!
@almartin4159
@almartin4159 9 жыл бұрын
+D. Lyrium Technically I am what is known as a U.S. Federally engineered felon. In the U.S. most people do not realize that the Federal government has set the bar for being labeled a "felon" so low that even an army veteran such as I can be tried, imprisoned, and permanently tagged a felon if they dare actually keep their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution for United States of America . That is what happened to me. I went against the system and it is the "System" that controls and not the Constitution. That's the way it is. That is the unfortunate reality.
@christopherhitchings7749
@christopherhitchings7749 8 жыл бұрын
+Anon A Mouse sucks don't it! If you haven't already done it check out iraqveteren8888. ...He does a video on his collection 😩
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 8 жыл бұрын
re: gas seal, and the related mechanism. you skipped a part that pushes the cylinder forward, the sliding breech face. you can actually watch it articulate as you point toward the "cylinder lock kicker" operating on the trigger. i like the "they did it for velocity" argument, but i think the impetus was "accurate lock up". pretty much every revolver just has the locking bolt/plunger/cam lump locking the BOTTOM of the cylinder. tolerances mean "wiggly piggly" alignment based on the stacked up "slack in assembly" of a few parts. in the nagant, that is supplemented by "dead nuts on" alignment with the bore itself. the arrangement makes it a "must happen to function" event, so even the most shot to hell, rode hard and put up wet example will either "align properly", or fail to go bang entirely. compare that to the old 1920 vintage s&w military and police model i had, where about every 100th round was far enough off alignment you felt lead grazing knuckles on your shooting hand (but oh, what a SWEET pull that old trigger had in SA, maybe 2 lbs), more often in rapid DA shooting. that nagant CAN'T have that happen, ever, at all. that's a really humungous plus for a "plow boy army" of rural dimwits and urban loafers who can barely master tying their boots, lol. also in a trench, if i fire that nagant next to your face, you barely notice. do that with that taurus .44, i'm probably off your christmas card list for life, lol.
@DELTA912420
@DELTA912420 10 жыл бұрын
Given the set backs of a slow reload, and that it's a not so common round, It's a neat gun to fire and own. I have one myself and love firing it with others that have no clue what I'm shoting.
@amyhuk
@amyhuk 10 жыл бұрын
if you are old enough to remember Airwolf. the original bad guy in the pilot episode Moffat I think his name was. was shooting a nagant revolver at the fuel port of the Airwolf trying to blow it up. before he was killed.
@DELTA912420
@DELTA912420 10 жыл бұрын
The guy in a black rode. Yea thats the same gun. I forgot it was on airwolf.
@isabelladestegonzaga5529
@isabelladestegonzaga5529 5 жыл бұрын
das video ist kurz und knackig - perfekt ! :)
@robokilla6674
@robokilla6674 Жыл бұрын
10 years and Ian refuses to age
@PotatoGunsRule
@PotatoGunsRule 7 жыл бұрын
Clearly these were better at executions than combat. Great video, I have one of these but no correct ammo.
@joebiernacki7346
@joebiernacki7346 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen that ammo on line.
@erlycuyler
@erlycuyler 5 жыл бұрын
Norma. Prv. You can find it,but the commercial,though more expensive,is not corrosive as is most surplus.
@jerkmcgerkin
@jerkmcgerkin 8 жыл бұрын
An S&W or Colt pistol using the sealing mechanism would be very interesting.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 8 жыл бұрын
+Bryan Sheriff An S&W 500 with a gas seal. Say no more.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 8 жыл бұрын
the revolver would have to be gargantuan. the breech face articulates too (otherwise you would get excess headspace), and has to be "locked" forward somehow. lots more beef needed for that job in even a .38 special over the nagant .30. think about how "rush hour tokyo subway" crowded that receiver would be with all those levers and what not competing for elbow room. every added gizmo reduces a bit of beef, so reduces overall strength. a .357 would probably have to be quite "chunky" (and hideous) to use such a system without the shooter needing tweezers to pick bits of metal out of his flesh, lol
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 8 жыл бұрын
***** the nagant load is far closer to .32 acp or short s&w in performance... it's, in a word, "wimpy", lol.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 8 жыл бұрын
***** ummmm, no... you're confused. the nagant was always wimpy as spinach-less popeye. it's the tok auto round in 7.62 that whizzed. that was hot in in standard trim, and flame spitting in SMG loads. THOSE knocked at m-1 carbine performance out of a 10 inch barrel. the nagant was always just a wimpy 19th century .32 revolver round (which is why rasputin took like 9 of them and didn't even drop his turkey leg, lol)
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 8 жыл бұрын
sorry, wrong button, lol
@larryjacobsen4079
@larryjacobsen4079 4 жыл бұрын
Scrolled thru some comments, but didn't see any mention that these were issued to tank crewmen. The narrow barrel enabled it to be fired thru the slits if enemy soldiers got too close, and the gas seal made it advantageous too, a bit less noise inside the tank.
@kainhall
@kainhall 9 жыл бұрын
something you might have missed....at 7:47 / 7:48 you can see it well..... but the recoil actually sends the rounds back.... after you release the trigger, the cylinder moves back and "re-seats" the rounds. just a little quirk i found interesting!
@pkj77
@pkj77 9 жыл бұрын
Prefer this kind of videos where you talk and shoots instead of the auction ones
@britishfetishman101
@britishfetishman101 10 жыл бұрын
this is the ideal assassin's weapon...think about it the casings are contained in the revolving magazine and the fact that the gun itself can be silenced
@de0509
@de0509 10 жыл бұрын
mind = blown. No other revolvers up to date have "casings" inside a revolving magazine
@captainnyet9855
@captainnyet9855 7 жыл бұрын
Nahh, the Soviets made far superior silenced pistols, the ones with a piston instead of gunpowder that are almost completely silent, any pistol without subsonic ammunition is not going to be silent anyway, and the Nagant has no subsonic rounds.(though you could handload it with little powder)
@fan9775
@fan9775 6 жыл бұрын
britishfetishman101 Revolvers don't have magazines. And revolvers don't (usually) eject the cases.
@VioIetShift
@VioIetShift 6 жыл бұрын
Eh. Integrally suppressed .22 LR single shot is better.
@krysatheo
@krysatheo 6 жыл бұрын
PPU sells subsonic nagant ammo
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 9 жыл бұрын
FWIW, that center cylinder unscrews and comes out with a small coil spring. Although obsolete by WWII, The Nagant filled a BIG GAP caused by Mother Russia still tooling up for TT-33 production. My .02 worth:)-John in Texas
@KaiserFrazer67
@KaiserFrazer67 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a Tsarist-era double-action Nagant for years. I had some fun at the range with it on and off for a while until I had to sell it during bad financial times... 😢 Fiocchi has made and sold ammo for the 7.62 Nagant for decades (which is what I used) and they may still have it, considering its newfound popularity. I do wish to get one again, but I'm on the lookout for a Polish-made one. They were made by Fabryka Broni Radom--the makers of the VIS Model 35--and they have "F.B./RADOM/Ng 30" (in three lines of text) stamped on the left side of the receiver.
@jaycesampson642
@jaycesampson642 4 жыл бұрын
What was with the camera man at the end? "Yah imma just zoom in on his shirt"
@rejmons1
@rejmons1 9 жыл бұрын
At first look I see that is the reproduction! Many years ago I found this one inside the ruin of home (under the old furnace) in Poland. It was from 1916 year (IWW time, and I found this near the field of battle from this time). I think, somebody found this one abandoned on this field by any Russian officer who tried to escape after the lost battle [Russian Army were beaten in this place]. And took home. But I was in this time a silly young boy (only 12 y.o.) and I showed this gun to other and, of course, I lost this. But I remember: It had the natural silver colour of steel. May it be during the time of war, a factory did not had the time to do something more because of mass production. May it be! But my "Nagan" (Russians as a rule did not speak this last letter) had definitely silver colour!
@rejmons1
@rejmons1 9 жыл бұрын
By the way: Do you know the Russian game called "russian roulette"? An instrument to this game was Nagant. Seven chambers, one bullet. six opportunities... The play only for crazy desperados...
@WingmanSR
@WingmanSR 8 жыл бұрын
+Tomasz Wójcik They are not reproduction, they are arsenal refurbished.
@thor156x2
@thor156x2 8 жыл бұрын
great video, thank you for posting this! I just recently acquired one of these it is awesome. I love the old stuff, keep up the good work.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 4 жыл бұрын
A pretty innovative design for 1895 and a pretty hot round.
@tarsteeler
@tarsteeler 10 жыл бұрын
I just purchased one and have a question is the firing pin supposed to move thanks
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are a little bit loose. Kinda like AK gas pistons.
@tarsteeler
@tarsteeler 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info just getting into surplus firearms thanks again for the information
@jsnantic
@jsnantic 10 жыл бұрын
I have two and both have a wobbly firing pin
@tarsteeler
@tarsteeler 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the answer I shoot this gun better than my glock 19 or ruger sr9c Lol
@erlycuyler
@erlycuyler 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@orellaminx3530
@orellaminx3530 4 жыл бұрын
3:26 Invalid test. Nagant muzzle was just past the end of the napkin, this one is well behind it.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 4 жыл бұрын
Being a doofus, I misunderstood the comment and gave a useless answer (now deleted). Sorry.
@warmachine_1396
@warmachine_1396 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well. Would like to see it with the muzzle of each past the napkin. Since muzzle blast definitely had some to do with the results. Not all, but some.
@SteamControlValve
@SteamControlValve 6 жыл бұрын
I have one. It is a cool gun. Good demonstration on it. Just takes too long to unload and reload. Very historical gun. Fun to shoot.
@cyclonetaylor7838
@cyclonetaylor7838 5 жыл бұрын
I had a early single action model that I received without a firing pin. What a hell of a job to make a new one and get the profile correct so that it hit the back of the frame aperture properly to tip up the correct amount to align with the primer. Not having an original for a pattern made for a lot of trial and error fileing. I made cases out of fire formed 32-20 cases that are actually too short to seal the cylinder gap completely.
@adamfoye9624
@adamfoye9624 9 жыл бұрын
wait is it possible to just carry pre loaded cylinders that way you could just toss one empty cylinder out and put a new one in
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
adam foye Yes, in theory you could.
@adamfoye9624
@adamfoye9624 9 жыл бұрын
thank you for the advice on the gun i still want one so i can have it side by side my mosin rifle
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 8 жыл бұрын
+toomanyaccounts That was Hiram Percy Maxim, son of the more famous Hiram Stevens Maxim.
@bademusoctavianjuvenal2702
@bademusoctavianjuvenal2702 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: KGB (Russian/Soviet secret service, mostly in 1950s) agents used suppressed Nagant revolvers for their undercover missions.
@mroilcat
@mroilcat 3 жыл бұрын
Had a Nagant years ago (from my grandfather) that got stolen. I finally found ammo for it and it shot very well. Mine had clear plastic(?)stocks with some sort of shiny foil under them. Not good double action, but more than adequate single action and pretty accurate out to 25 yards (4 inch groups). Still have several boxes of modern repro ammo.
@erlycuyler
@erlycuyler 5 жыл бұрын
I had one of these,and boy was it fun! Ammo was high,but it was fun.
@STEVENGOSNEY
@STEVENGOSNEY 8 жыл бұрын
is this considered a pre-1899 firearm?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
There are some out there that were made (and dated) pre-1899. Not many though.
@shawndarling5855
@shawndarling5855 7 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons I got one of these things. Is there a easier way to unload it.
@aidenbatista5986
@aidenbatista5986 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Darling throw it and pull out a second one
@kadynsmith1497
@kadynsmith1497 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Darling did you use the ejackulating lever?
@damattalizer
@damattalizer 10 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the Nagant revolver was a downgrade from the older top-break .44 russian revolvers. The Nagant is significantly harder to load and doesn't seem nearly as user-friendly as the top-break designs. Just my 2 cents.
@KretinoSantino
@KretinoSantino 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how 1895 is still in use while all the .44 S&W No.3 copies are long gone. You either doesn't understand meaning of word "downgrade" or you watch too many Western's. Or maybe you are "really old" Oldshatterhand and assrape your pal Winnetou.
@nicolasarnold7210
@nicolasarnold7210 6 жыл бұрын
It may be impractical for use in a modern war, but you have to admit, it is pretty damn cool. Especially suppressed.
@boogbirb495
@boogbirb495 4 жыл бұрын
This man does not age!
@hvr1874
@hvr1874 4 жыл бұрын
These old Forgotten Weapon videos has got a serious 80's sex ed video vibe to them.
@johnhenry1577
@johnhenry1577 10 жыл бұрын
Даже эту рухлядь в РФ до сих пор не распродали до конца. При таком патроне и таком револьвере сомневаюсь что когда-нибудь кому-нибудь вообще смогут продать
@lkmuks
@lkmuks 10 жыл бұрын
Народ в штатах покупает аж бегом. Их насьолько много(кроме русских даже),что они идиотично дешёвые
@johnhenry1577
@johnhenry1577 9 жыл бұрын
***** Вне всяких сомнений что образец хотя-бы царского выпуска будет очень ценен, но пойди их найди. То что распродают - советские довоенные и военные выпуски. Коллекционную ценность должны представлять Наганы одинарного действия (пехотный вариант царской армии) т.к. на вооружении РККА/ СА стояли только револьверы двойного действия
@Konstantin_otdelka_remont_SPb
@Konstantin_otdelka_remont_SPb 4 жыл бұрын
Ты похоже вообще в данной теме не шаришь)). Это самый гениальный патрон и решение проблемы среди револьверов до сих пор!!
@CharizardMaster69
@CharizardMaster69 Жыл бұрын
Hey I came back from late 1890’s/early 1900’s Louisiana, it’s a horrific place over run by lovecraftian monsters and may I say, I used a nagant revolver much like that and it is a nice piece of kit, even was able to attach a home-made suppressor to it
@avrorik369
@avrorik369 6 жыл бұрын
For you, it's a forgotten weapon. For us Russians, it's a legend, the famous revolver of Red October and civil war. It's as culturally significant for us as a Colt Peacemaker might be for an American.
@bakedhawaii
@bakedhawaii 4 жыл бұрын
Uncircumcised bullet
@theopot5798
@theopot5798 8 жыл бұрын
those Europeans...always ahead..
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 8 жыл бұрын
The English, French and Germans have were pioneers in firearms for centuries. The USA only took over in the early to mid 1800's due to our inclination to get all fixated on our new innovations and the fact we like to scrap with our neighbours. As for Europe being backwards, laughable. The very computer you insult us on would not exist if it were not for the German enigma machine, captured by the Polish and the first true computer used to crack it was developed by the English. The language you speak is an amalgamation of mostly European languages and of course is referred to as English. The was founded by largely English, Irish and German settlers amongst many other Europeans. Many European countries have universal health-care, gun control which shows in our lack of mass shootings, many of the elite scientists work out of Europe and indeed are European by origin.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 8 жыл бұрын
Looking towards the half of the continent that wasn't under communist rule and suppressed by a failed attempt at communism, one can see that there is better health-care, lower gun crime, lower relative poverty, higher levels of education, lower crime in most areas and greater contribution to scientific research. To declare an entire continent backwards in comparison to one nation is absurd as within that continent are countries that will out-shine the comparative nation.
4 жыл бұрын
For many prisoners that was the last thing they heard, a Nagant being cocked.
@BorisAnisimov53
@BorisAnisimov53 4 жыл бұрын
Хороший обзор! Спасибо. У меня таких два. ))
@user-ho4gk1ni9h
@user-ho4gk1ni9h 4 жыл бұрын
Барабан в видео люфтит что то сильно по оси при выстреле.
@user-ho4gk1ni9h
@user-ho4gk1ni9h 4 жыл бұрын
Теперь понятно гильза заходит в канал ствола.класно придумано.
@user-ho4gk1ni9h
@user-ho4gk1ni9h 4 жыл бұрын
С таким аппаратом мой прадедушка Смольный брал вместе с дедушкой Лениным.
@BorisAnisimov53
@BorisAnisimov53 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ho4gk1ni9h Да, спроектировано и исполнено отлично. Никаких прорывов и т.п. негативных моментов. Наган - гений. Про штурм Смольного, так понимаю придумано "Коммунистами".
@tacituskilgore5372
@tacituskilgore5372 3 жыл бұрын
the nagant revolver is a smith and wesson 1892 with the combination of and mecanisom of a single action army and a webley IV revolver, thats why its the perfect revolver
@eamonwright7488
@eamonwright7488 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my buddies ride around the town on horseback with our M1895's requisitioning food.
@lanslater
@lanslater 3 жыл бұрын
I like your new OUTdoor show format where you get to see the item in ACTION yay Couldnt stay with those shows inside the museum room what a snore
@peraire
@peraire 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, eres un artista. Para mí, el mejor.
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