Russian Pistols of World War 1 I THE GREAT WAR Special feat. C&Rsenal

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Indy talks to our weapons expert Othais about the Russian Pistols of World War 1.
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@2polev355 6 жыл бұрын

My History teacher has us watch this in class. This is the reason why I look forward to History class everyday :)

@totallyaploy1824 5 жыл бұрын

im going to use simple history in my school if i can.

@aidenbaker8376 2 жыл бұрын

Your history teacher is a gigachad

@neal3k 6 жыл бұрын

The Russians bought around 50,000 Colt 1911 .45 caliber pistols for use in WW1. I have one made in 1916 with Russian Contract markings and factory letter. I'm surprised they were not mentioned.

@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын

Well, they will be mentioned in the US episode of course.

@user-dh2ev9sc4c 6 жыл бұрын

Well, as russian, I want to say something about reasons to change revolvers. At first, Russian military actully were NOT satisfied with SW№3 revolvers. They, at first, noticed that the top-break frame have tendency to woble with time, so they wanted a solid frame revolver. Next, they weren't satisfied with fact that when you reloads a top-break action, which still have live rounds in cylinder, you will loose that rounds for sure - so they wanted I one-by-one ejection. Third, they wanted new revolver to be 7.62 caliber, so factories could use same equipment and even same barrel blanks to pruoduce both rifle and revolver barrels. And they wanted new revolver to be lghter and more compact, because in Russian Empire officer were OBLIGED to always carry pistol and sword when he wears uniform - even if he's off-duty. And last, single-action revolvers were issued to lower-rank troops not because of safety, but because of ammo economy - low-rank troops didn't had a lot of shooting training, and higher ranks decided, that lowers will whoot their ammo to fast with double-actions. (By the way, in Russian terms of the beginning of 20th century, revovlvers were actually single-action and triple-action - they counted rotating of cylinder as one more action)

@user-dh2ev9sc4c 6 жыл бұрын

Next, why are surviving Nagants feels so bad. Nagant revovlver originally were designed to be hand-fitted. Each one of them. And they were in Empire, but in USSR hand-fitting were abandoned for mass-production sake, and all soviet-made revolvers is literally just a raw material, which needed to be hand-fitted by a nice professional worker. In fact, few years ago I saw an original hand-fitting manual for Nagants. That's all, hopefully I covered some of your questions. Sorry for bad english.

@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын

I agree whole heartedly!

@LtJackboot 4 жыл бұрын

Great intel, thank you :-)

@LtJackboot 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-dh2ev9sc4c Again, thank you! I had a hex-barreled Mosin-Nagant rifle. 7.62X54R with a completely shrouded 26 and half inch barrel, mount for scope but no scope and washed out rifling. got 'er for $50 Canadian in 1985. Got a type 56 Chinese stainless lined barrel SKS at the same time-$200 for that one. If only I'd hung onto them...

@redram5150 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t even wrap my mind around justifying intentionally slowing down a soldier’s speed to reload and rate of fire. By that logic, why not cut their thumbs off? Now they’ll really have to take their time

@andrewbrindescu6666 6 жыл бұрын

Nagan revolvers were highly look after by german soldiers during ww2 as priceless trophy

@HistoryMarche 6 жыл бұрын

Love the longer specials!!! Great work.

@HistoryMarche 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed, video length is something that I have in mind when creating my own history videos. I try not to go over 10-15 minutes. But here, I was just declaring my own preference towards longer, more detailed videos. There are certainly many WW1 topics where one can go in-depth, hence why I liked this special more than the usual fast-paced stuff.

@jonathannelson72 6 жыл бұрын

I love your channel!

@knightmarex13 6 жыл бұрын

A Nambu video and now a overview of Russian WW1 Pistols within 24 hours! Christmas has came early

@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын

The Biggest single problem in the modern era with the Nagant is in the use of PPU ammo (Totally worthless paper punching TRASH!) Where as the Real military ammunition is equal in power to "32 magnum".

@aeoo371 4 жыл бұрын

World Traveler where you can find it buy it! They military cartridge is 108 gr. then I think aftermarket ammo is 78 gr. One the he did not mention was this pistol could be fitted with a suppressor. This was because of the way the Cylinder sealed to the barrel.

@danielwolfgang8234 5 жыл бұрын

Mhhh you made me take out one of my own Firearms Books, and according to it, a book written by Dörfler Waffenkunde (Dörfler weapons education) was the Browning M1903 (9mm Browning long) used by the Russian Police and Gendarmerie. The Russian Empire ordered 11,000 with detachable shoulder stock holsters from what I know.

@hanfpeter3742 6 жыл бұрын

That blueing on the no.3 new model is gorgeous.

@Edax_Royeaux 6 жыл бұрын

The only practical advantage of the Nagant M1895's gas seal is that you can fit it with a suppressor. That would make the M1895 one of the few revolvers in the world that can make use of one, even if wasn't designed with that in mind.

@thexalon 6 жыл бұрын

I watch these videos mostly to see Mae smile.

@vincedibona4687 5 жыл бұрын

Creepy.

@teufelhund4921 5 жыл бұрын

She's weird...

@hlynnkeith9334 6 жыл бұрын

Othais always brings enthusiasm and encyclopedic knowledge on the subject of small arms.

@johnrambo5619 2 жыл бұрын

He does his research, trying to get info from the actual source as much as possible

@lordDenis16 6 жыл бұрын

@the_great_war: at around 4:00 you have the picture of the Nagant rather than the S&W model no 3.

@EuropeYear1917 6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I was not the only one who caught this.

@wesleywarnke9892 4 жыл бұрын

My understanding of the trigger guard spur was that this pistol (Smith & Wesson #3) was designed to be carried in the waist sash of Cossack cavalrymen, who did not use leather holsters for their side arms. The spur was meant to keep this very heavy pistol from slipping to low through the waist band sash. I believe the source of this info was James Supica? , firearms historian for the NRA. I'm sorry that I could not be more definitive on my sourcing.

@andrewdurand339 6 жыл бұрын

We need a Liberland in WWI special. This small but important country between Croatia and Serbia played a key role in WWI.

@a787fxr 6 жыл бұрын

Tons of excellent info. This guy really knows his guns! I learned a lot. Thanks!

@tarstakars 5 жыл бұрын

In my opinion one of the common misconceptions about the Nagant Revolver is the ammunition. there's a recent video on KZfaq of a gentleman testing that revolver with military and modern commercial ammunition the military ammunition is traveling close to 1,000 feet per second whereas the commercial modern ammunition was traveling at just under 800 feet per second and it had excellent penetration through 4 layers of denim into ballistic gel. I'm not saying that this difference makes the Nagant Revolver and outstanding revolver it's just not as bad as people might think it is and there was a technique for rapidly unloading the gun which I've used and that works quite well though loading it again still does take some time.

@matthewlee8667 6 жыл бұрын

After WW1 you could cover other conflicts and the fate of empires after the war.

@twirlipofthemists3201 6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Lee There is a big ww2 collaboration in the works.

@matthewlee8667 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Fupanda nice!

@Legitpenguins99 6 жыл бұрын

Indy has a serious right now called Between Two Wars right now

@yellowjackboots2624 6 жыл бұрын

I'm still back in August 1916 with the regular episodes but, having just watched this, i can honestly say Indy is looking fresher now than ever. What's his secret, i wonder?

@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын

Nicotinamide Rhiboside

@falkirkbairn5903 4 жыл бұрын

Russia ,also produced (in very low numbers) a mosin nagant rifle into a short bolt action pistol

@Heat1261 6 жыл бұрын

The Russians have such iconic weapons. Hopefully one day I get my hands one of them

@NRH111 6 жыл бұрын

,Mosins are pretty cheap I grabbed one for $125 in 2012

@simplymadness8849 6 жыл бұрын

That's a long time ago. 300 dollars is the norm now.

@firepower7017 6 жыл бұрын

German Empire You built the Luger, that is the most iconic gun not as iconic as the M1911 but most iconic European gun

@Dies1r4e 6 жыл бұрын

not as iconic....*looks at box of 9mm "luger" on desk* yep...

@firepower7017 6 жыл бұрын

Dies1r4e ok then name a Iconic European gun also the M9 Beretta doesn't count

@inhumanfilth681 4 жыл бұрын

I kick myself for not buying a nagant revolver a few years ago when they were under $300

@Nimbasa180 6 жыл бұрын

I love the girls big smile every time she shoots. You can see the enjoyment in her face. Sorry, I don't know her name :c

@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын

MAE

@kingrichard3990 4 жыл бұрын

It's kind of creepy to imagine if someone shoot at me and smile like that

@Killrvortex 6 жыл бұрын

Love all your videos!

@SentimentalBadger 6 жыл бұрын

I spy a Schmeisser (?) in the background...

@BrionJaeger 6 жыл бұрын

Indi, will you and C&R have an episode with May's top 10 picks of pistols and rifles she would carry into the trenches?

@brucetucker4847 6 жыл бұрын

Also, the Smith and Wesson was undoubtedly more useful for motivating recalcitrant peasant conscripts. Pistol-whip a tough Russian peasant with a dainty little gun like the Nagant and he'd just laugh at you! However even the heavy S&W wasn't as sturdy and able to withstand repeated impact against soldiers' thick skulls as the mighty Webley.

@vikashp9276 2 жыл бұрын

The first handgun you showed was one of the handguns in rdr2

@davidgreen40 6 жыл бұрын

Remember one thing about 1895 Nagant; while underpowered (especially compared to contemporaneous American and British cartridges) getting shot by an 1895 Nagant was likely a death sentence. This is because of the fact there were zero antibiotics. If shot in the abdomen there was a very high likelihood of a terrible death due to peritonitis, and anywhere else on the body from a general bacteriological infection due to filthy clothing and unwashed bodies introducing foreign matter into the wound. Add to it the limited medical care available to the average Russian soldier and from the standpoint of the revolver as a means of instilling discipline in the ranks, it was still an effective tool.

@randymagnum143 6 жыл бұрын

David Green lol, if you were shot with a nagant, it was likely in the head, either self inflicted or one of your officers.

@maxpierce5532 6 жыл бұрын

Did Andorra have any role in the war, I ask because it is on the large map on the show?

@zzman305 6 жыл бұрын

Should've also shown off a Browning 1903. They were incredibly popular with officers because of their larger magazines.

@M80Ball 6 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Wonder when the episode for that mp18 is coming over on C&Rsenal.

@johncoffin9354 5 жыл бұрын

Turkish documents from 1914-18 would be an an archaic script that no one learns to read in Turkey anymore. Only specialized scholars could read 'em.

@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын

The Russians and Ottomans had some strange n unusual hand guns. And in this case not the best. Great job.

@JenniferinIllinois 6 жыл бұрын

I agree with Indy. Germany will emerge victorious!!!!! Hehehe...

@clinger5520 6 жыл бұрын

Little Jenny wtf

@rittervontrost5680 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe this year the soldiers will be home at christmas.

@MrChainsawAardvark 6 жыл бұрын

The Nagant was one of the few revolvers that could mount a suppressor. Was this device available during the first world war, or a later addition?

@gallendugall8913 6 жыл бұрын

These are strangely beautiful works of engineering.

@danny50582 6 жыл бұрын

MP-18 in the background

@BigVanillaBlast 6 жыл бұрын

I do not know if this is intentional or not but when talking about the no.3 Russian revolver you show the picture of the 1895 Nagant and not it.

@rednecksniper4715 6 жыл бұрын

I like how they were talking about the number 3 but showed us pictures of the Nagant revolver

@giovannibermudezjr 6 жыл бұрын

When he said he had a special gun to show, I really thought he would pull the Obrez pistol out. A boy can dream.

@abeherbert6603 6 жыл бұрын

I would imagine those are *super* rare to get your hands on. I'm sure it's a dream of Othais' as well.

@abeherbert6603 6 жыл бұрын

But because of that (and this is just speculation) I would assume not many survived after the war. It's a handy modification in the field, but it's not going to be kept in the arsenal once fighting has ceased. I doubt even the Russian army would actively equip its men with sloppily cut-down rifles.

@sgtpetergreen 6 жыл бұрын

Kittenstomper an oberez is just a super cut down mosin nagant. It's not hard to get your hands on a mosin, so after that you just need some sort of legal ability to modify it in such a way and tools.

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 5 жыл бұрын

Obrez are bad and you should feel bad.

@twirlipofthemists3201 6 жыл бұрын

A lot of Turkish museums are.... "guided."

@zaxxxppe 6 жыл бұрын

can't wait for WW2 with you guys!

@robott6696 6 жыл бұрын

Im getting some pumped to find out whose finally going to win this thing!

@WildBillCox13 6 жыл бұрын

Only number 852? Geeze! I'm waking yup way too early! " . . .and maybe for the right reasons . . ." Ayaaah! Gotta love that droll sense of humor.

@wild_west_hippie 6 жыл бұрын

Yay a new weapons one!!!

@imjusttoodissgusted5620 6 жыл бұрын

It looks like the nagant could be silenced unlike other revolvers but of course that was not a consideration then. the things were mostly used by nkvd to execute prisoners

@PaulP999 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed your show, always like to see collaboration...but have to ask - is Bert the geologist on Big Bang Theory Othais' dad...?

@zudi8709 6 жыл бұрын

I miss the part from the stream when you talk about gravy :(

@CAP198462 6 жыл бұрын

Russian revolver, loads six shots, only fires one.

@nanuuq2 6 жыл бұрын

Have you done a special on the mortars used by the various armies? thanks

@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын

No, not, yet. Would be interesting to find one to explain certain things.

@nanuuq2 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNuqY6VymJPDgGQ.html

@nanuuq2 6 жыл бұрын

there are videos of giant mortars

@nanuuq2 6 жыл бұрын

www.warmuseum.ca/firstworldwar/history/battles-and-fighting/weapons-on-land/artillery-and-mortars/

@provablegrub4581 6 жыл бұрын

Question: Othais mentioned bluing when he was looking at the Nagant 1895. What exactly is bluing, and what is it’s purpose? Thanks. Also, great video lads.

@arachnonixon 6 жыл бұрын

it's the black finish over the gun. It prevents rust, basically

@raymondgill9796 6 жыл бұрын

Blueing is a method of staining the surface of the metal to prevent rusting and to provide a dark finish as opposed to painting. Most guns have a form of blueing and is can be redone. There is an excellent demonstration on Othias' other channel called the anvil which is great.

@provablegrub4581 6 жыл бұрын

arachnonixon Thank you.

@provablegrub4581 6 жыл бұрын

Raymond Gill Thank you very much.

@WildBillCox13 6 жыл бұрын

I love the Cyrillic alphabet. Dunno why. Is this a personal expertise or are you using software to translate?

@joshmoore3836 6 жыл бұрын

Love the show and the series but I have to the The pictures that he shows at the being dont look like Smith and Weston number 3 they look like negant revolvers.

@bobtyor69 5 жыл бұрын

You would take the s@w over a colt SAA? As a better handling single action?

@aegis29 6 жыл бұрын

8:38 Oh hey, I never imagined I’d recognize any of the weapons featured in this series. The Nagant M1895 was the inspiration of the weapon in TF2, The L’etranger. Just thought that was neat.

@vukman2665 5 жыл бұрын

What about the Nagant 1910 and the Merwin Hulbert?

@huliocsar2740 6 жыл бұрын

WHERE IT IS MY OBREZ!!!!!???!!!

@hi-tech_soldier2558 6 жыл бұрын

It's a short shotgun

@sgtpetergreen 6 жыл бұрын

A7X.Velez98 it's technically not a handgun. Plus, if you tried to use it as a pistol, you'd probably hurt or break your wrist.

@andreivaldez6713 6 жыл бұрын

Admiral Jackson I don't think you realize how many people - not just Russians - made shortened rifles into personal defense and trench raiding weapons during that war.

@thurin84 6 жыл бұрын

embedded in your kidney..........

@aandersson650 6 жыл бұрын

Finally!

@Hi_Im_Kalash 6 жыл бұрын

There is a MP18 on the wall

@PuffAdder8565 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Tannenberg dev. team, are ya watching!!?!?

@gernotbeaumont5816 Жыл бұрын

The Russians also used the Galand revolver(Quickloader)

@crosseightyeight 6 жыл бұрын

20:47 haha, "guided," as in "propoganda"

@davidbradley6040 4 жыл бұрын

As in guided tours

@Ugly_German_Truths 2 жыл бұрын

If it's been purveyed for the ability to use on horseback with quick reloads and all you wouldn't even try to shoot with two hands, Othias.

@crometal9286 6 жыл бұрын

Woow 800 000 sub

@riichobamin7612 4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to see the Obrez pistol.

@CJoksch 6 жыл бұрын

I've fired both commercial and military loads for the Nagant revolver. The military load is substantially more powerful.

@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын

Droppin loads

@jackdaniel6644 6 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling kinda down since I know that the show will be ending shortly, but, I wanted to know if there is going to be a show like this one to do week-by-week events on the second world war?

@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@maximilianvonspee9329 6 жыл бұрын

I see that MP-18 on the wall.....give episode pls

@hoangkimviet8545 6 жыл бұрын

I am thinking that someone will make a video about the US pistols in the peace :0

@a.hauptmann8798 6 жыл бұрын

Hoàng Kim Việt M1911 and Colt M1917

@bushwhackedonvhs 5 жыл бұрын

I would far rather have been issued the No.3 than the Nagant. The Nagant was an atrocious design.

@dimdagreekdimdagreek4097 6 жыл бұрын

The obrez bolt action pistol

@malkavian5 6 жыл бұрын

can you give a recap of the parties in the East? Its becoming game of thrones and I lost track of whos who.

@teufelhund4921 5 жыл бұрын

20 minutes for 2 revolvers!?

@thespiritof76.. 4 жыл бұрын

I look like Osias too.

@grumpygrumpgrump136 6 жыл бұрын

There was a 44/40 rim fire????

@LeFaisDoDo 4 жыл бұрын

man i wish indy was doing this

@janwacawik7432 6 жыл бұрын

OTHAIS, GOD DAMMIT! I can see that MP-18 Grabenfeger on the wall! Why are you teasing us in such a cruel way?

@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын

I think they need to repair it before anything happens with it.

@Ergilion 6 жыл бұрын

If you ever need help translating from russian I can lend a hand. I'm a native russian and a gun owner.

@maciejcichocki4535 Жыл бұрын

👍

@merlemorrison482 6 жыл бұрын

sorry, but 44-40 wasn't a rimfire - 44 Henry was the correct nomenclature.

@scumbagrebels6900 6 жыл бұрын

i passed battlfield 1 single player on hard now im a world war 1 historian

@mikepette4422 Жыл бұрын

C&Rsenal Boring ? HUH ? No this "stuff" is amazing of course and I never miss an episode

@jasperbergman6299 6 жыл бұрын

Pls do a machine gun special

@ripussr1766 4 жыл бұрын

Is this Saul Goodman?

@austindavid7675 6 жыл бұрын

I see a MP18 ^_^

@kyleshiflet9952 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Schofield Jesse James favorite pistol

@Ni999 4 жыл бұрын

It's another variant of the same revolver.

@kyleshiflet9952 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ni999 huh that's cool

@m4a3e8shermantank8 6 жыл бұрын

(Don't attempt to say my name) have a question, is it true that the Fedorav Avtomat was the first assault rifle? Love the show!

@sgtpetergreen 6 жыл бұрын

It was technically more like an auto rifle, but it is pretty debated.

@m4a3e8shermantank8 6 жыл бұрын

Darn it, you ruined my chance on getting on out of the trenches! but thanks for the info anyway

@brucetucker4847 6 жыл бұрын

Chambered in 6.5mm Arisaka, which is a full-powered rifle cartridge, while chambering in an intermediate cartridge is one of the defining elements of an assault rifle, so not really an assault rifle.