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This is heartbreaking honestly. Rust is my all-time favorite game. While I only have about 1800 hours over the last 5 years, there's no other game that comes close to it in my eyes.

You should've added a list of all the games that are using unity to help show the magnitude of this.

I think their best plan going forward would be to start pulling and breaking down assets and mechanics to port into a new game engine. *Cough* UE5 *cough*...

As a game developer myself I've had this happen to me with other APIs and engines. It is heartbreaking to take a service at face value and then be let down 2 years down the line to learn they are either changing their payment plan (cough cough unity) or shutting down services without releasing the service open source. Gone are the days when we roll our own engines, and that is a GOOD thing. What we SHOULD be rooting for is open source

This should be illegal on soooooo many levels. A company should not be able to change a product you already own and then charge you again for it. Devs paid for a specific product delivered in a specific manner for a predetermined and agreed upon price. The company unilaterally saying "give us more" should be considered a form of extortion.

The game is too good to be true… now they may have to turn to big corporation marketing based greed machines who will ruin the game as soon as they get their hands on it : ( I sure hope that Facepunch isn’t forced to selling out.. or else it’ll be extremely sad to see the best game ever made fall.

I'm fine with Unity screwing themselves with this, but only for new games, not ones already existing.

When I hit launch and try to log into a server it takes 30mins-1hour to load the world

I read the article about it. Its only like 10 cents per install and the rust president and devs said it aint gonna affect them much

As the digital age develops they will surely incorporate instances such as this into the definition of "Bait & Switch..." the engine has very high-dollar clients who can only guarantee the high-dollar status because of the contracts they've agreed to

A lawsuit is the only thing that may stop the corporate scum.

I think unity is going to walk this back and rethink it, not that that will fix the giant trust problem they just created, but I don't think the end result will be that bad.

It's extortion if you really get down to it, What's to stop unity from abusing this system themselves to selectively price gouge across many games effectively allowing them to print their own quarterly income to whatever they want it to be. (logical extreme to the system and their "just trust me" proprietary software gambit)

Wish they could swap over to Unreal Engnie, better business model and better graphics especially with the new engine. I'm sure there is some other games coming up in future in same genre as Rust, with a different engine of course. But to be honest, to every problem - there is a solution.

I don’t even want rust 2. I feel like the game will be “modernized” in movement, realism and changing the core aspects of what made rust so appealing to us. So simplistic but so In depth in ways to play. I wish they could find a way to “move” the game from one engine to another without having to create a whole new game that I don’t see ever topping the excitement and nostalgia the original 10 year old game brings us.

thank u for using tommy frags in this, i frequent tommy frags and feel like the Frags Arena is a completely under played mini game opposed to the whole bedwars idea.

Havent seen the video but its been a while since ive seen one of ur vids. Love them and still love you. Keep it up

Man I have no idea how you said that particular brand of gamer sups without cracking up lmao, well done

This sucks but so many things need improving with Rust anyhoo change is (probably) a very good and overdue thing. Unfortunately it means it will take that much longer for real and necessary changes to come to Rust since they'll have to start over with a new engine.

They're not going to let Rust die. They're already working on solutions.

I have had my best time in online games by playing Rust. This is a very sad message.....😢

Thanks for explaining properly I did not get the whole fuss about rust 2 until now.

the man said "Rust 2", TAKE MY MONEY.

My main account with $600 worth of skins was hacked and banned from rust and I can’t sell them now, can I sell them after this goes down?

I 'd'ucking hate the rental/subscription, "you don't own what you paid for" BS... In Every damn industry!!

I just bought rust this year... So now a game I bought is only gonna exist for about a year after buying it.😢

ive been supporting rust for a long time now buying every dlc and the skins i like weekly, i hope they can find a solution

it time for them to make there own engine and give the big middle finger to unity

This breaks my heart, Rust is my one true love.

Another quality video you will be hitting 100k in no time keep it up love the content

Did the rust develops only pay 2000$ a month to unity? That doesn’t seem fair to me if so

Imagine rust in the latest unreal engine.😏

lets hope rust 2 has the old recoil system and sounds

Feels like fearmongering atm. Why would facepunch studios be in "panic". This isnt going to happen.

i propose a solution, unity team vs rust team pvp match inside rust, winner takes all, if the rust team wins they now legally own unity and bend it to their will, vice versa

Make Rust 2 on a different engine. Will buy immediately.

With all the updates i wish there were different maps. Like a jungle map, urban city/ subdivison/farm land map, dessert/ mountain map. With item and building skins that match the area. I mean ark did it, even dayz has multiple maps. Just to be able to not only switch servers but a differnt experience. Wouldnt mind paying per map install. Could be a way for rust to generate money in a comsumer friendly way.

For those of you who haven't been follow Unity and the most recent developments, they have rolled back their initial plan to a kinder gentler version. Though the damage is perhaps done (they have tipped their hand once again) , Unity's new plan isn't as bad as what they initially released a few weeks back. Only question now is, will that be enough to regain developers faith in the engine, or is the downward dive unrecoverable? All in all, it' seems like a classic case of "How to kill a Game engine in one easy step." ... and this wouldn't be the first time this CEO has killed a company (can you say EA?)

the end of an era, but the start of a new on that could potentially be better. i hope all goes well though

I’m really scared as I’m not sure if rust 2 will flop or not and i literally just started getting addicted, it would be a shame if it flops.

Even if unity doesnt go through with it, rust developers are most definitely leaving unity once they get a new engine themselves.

all these unity game devs should unite and create their own open source engine

lets grow that seed: Source 2

If it wasn't for that combat update, I probably would be upset and stressed out right now.

Thank you for the info REKS!!! 😢

I rage quit rust for 5 years but ironically never uninstalled. Got a new pc and obviously I had to, this blows

I think if they brought back old recoil everyone would be on the same level. I tried playing old recoil and couldn't even spray 200+ m anymore.

I’ve spent tons of money on that game, I bought their newest skins you can’t put on the market and deleted the game, I love the game…

Oh mama, if they follow CS2's steps, my skins are gonna value even more 😍

Wait till all the people that want revange on blizzard realiee that hearthstone is a unity game and they go nuts on them with installing over and over again

They can build Rust 2 with a new engine next time. Facepunch already announced they might actually go this route. Rust won't die.

Adobe billing department enters the chat...

noway are we actually gonna lose rust bro i can't stay alive without rust i have been playing it since 2017 like please we all have to do something about it , like this can't be real bro

So would this have an impact on console players? I see Unity when I start up on PS5 but I’m not sure that it runs in the background

2021 was Rust peak. But there are still more people playing rust today then in 2022. Also the game has tripled in popularity compared to when the game was still being worked on super hard in 2014. Were today games highest player counts are typically launch week and thats it. Rust is complete opposite, We wont see this game die in next 5 years or so probably longer unless some major changes take effect. If im not mistaken no wipe days for servers are still something that will come, but that was planned for when the game was way more finshed. So im hoping they have a ton of stuff still planned. Im very happy with what they have done with last few meaningful updates. Even the camper no one asked for. It was pretty cool. Also why does this game not have as much as idk csgo players then? Well thats like comparing eft to call of duty. Eft is another really old game that had its player count peak during covid. But sadly theres spiked way more down becuse cheater scene messed with people hard. Eft felt less like a acarde shooter espically after inertia update. Csgo no prep time unless you warm up. Cod just sit on couch or desk and run it. Rust can be like that maybe not sit on couch. But it can also be pain (also cheaters), which normal casual cant stand everyday. Sad eft had so many dumb decisions when dealing with all the cheaters they accumalted. All my brothers and myself played cod and csgo growng up. Im the only one who has every played rust. Its not for everyone. But its the game that these people needed, that are willing. I do wish some servers espically vanilla facepucnch took degenerate behave a bit more serious. Becuase the only thing im actually sick of is kids telling me to kms after pvp them once or twice. Or grown adults/kids being racist. Basically if you want the xbox live experience still in 2023. Just play rust.

I’ve also had to reinstall the game because EAC kept complaining. If this happens to too many people they’ll go bankrupt.

Double eleven has been doing a lot of work in the gaming industry right now I doubt they are going to forget about the farm!

Rust sells on the order of about $500k in new skins every week, and I'm pretty sure just had a $10M payday with these new building skins they're dropping. They've only got 50 employees for the entire company, with total revenue of about $80M, and the player base is very active I don't think Rust is about to fold. Unity on the other hand.... To me, the big thing is that Unity changed the terms. The impact of the change doesn't really matter. What matters is they've forced devs to re-think their own business model to make sure they can support Unity's change. The Rust devs have openly stated that Rust 2 will not be done in Unity. I expect an exodus to occur.

Is it time for rust 2?!??! Let’s get it. They should completely come out with a new game new engine.

I see a lot of people in the comments asking why they don't "just switch engines" to unreal or something. The answer is simple, it takes time. They could potentially have to pause updates for multiple years while they work on transitioning from one engine to another. It's why Terraria announced they would be making Terraria 2. It was easier to just start making a new game from scratch than it was to switch game engines.

What if all the game devs that use unity make an open source game engine, like Blender but for games, call it 'Unified' lol.

What plugin in am i watching

I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it further

Should a paint supplier charge an artist for each look people give of a painting they made, even after paying for the paint ?

RUST 2 yes! If its like cs2 upgrade from rust 1 to 2 BIG YES!

Bro stop. You know how many friends I got to download Rust just because I was playing it and wanted them to play with me.. that’s crazyyyyyyyy

damn iv seen this happen to worlds adrift when they built it off proprietary tech, and it was also unity which banned that service on top of the source code of the proprietary tech being copyrighted which made the game truly dead, its a shame that games are at the mercy of the engines they were built on when the engines should be at the mercy of the devs who use them.

There should never be a cost for updates because its a full priced game that we paid for. If it was free then yes but no we paid money.

Why and how are some people so good at destroying trust.

Would we get to keep our skins that’s all I care about 😢

Go figure that a company becomes more greedy with time

Didnt Unity walk this back?

No Taxation without representation this is exactly that Unity has gone mad with power!

Probably won't impact too much. The already pay monthly for devs. Its not like this is the only monthly recurring expense

They rescinded the change. If the devs are smart they would already start development in unreal 6

Gary has already said the cost is not a problem. It’s the morality of it that he has an issue with. Then he mentioned Rust 2

It isn't possible to monitor for abuse of this if the user also reinstalled Windows or Linux and then installed the game because the PC will get a new random name every time you do this to prove my point even if you have signed into your Gmail on the PC before if you use 2factor you must reauthorize the same device because it will think it is a totally new device

I'm sorry Reks but that was the WORST ad seques I've ever heard 😂

I must be missing something , game published that run on software that isnt owned by the game designers of course should be paying software engineering for the use of that software ,plus a fee that kicks in after 200k in 12months should be paying in my eyes , if they dont like it make your on engine and stop using the nabours electricity

It's not all doom and gloom. This unity change has made given facepunch a reason to make rust 2 and as far as they have said it won't be on unity. Probably on unreal which will make it run quite well in any case and now we can expect to see a new game entirely. That being said unity has walked back their business model pricing but they unfortunately can't walk back the trust that they lost from developers new and old. I think rust is actually about to get even better than before with the release of rust 2 it's just a matter of time.

i mean rust could be like: "okay i guess we put a fee on it too/ so for every install the consumer has to pay" its crazy but that way any hacker has to pay to and its might be annyoing but 15p for a quick reinstall is not to bad every once in a while

Some of us have 10k hours …. Maybe they should switch to Unreal engine. Imagine how amazing this would be .. ya it would be different but we will get used to it

Unity walked back their claims, not like anyone is going to trust them anymore now though.

They should rewrite rust in the rust programming language using the bevy game engine as the foundation. It only makes sense to make rust in rust

WHAT!!@!!@# Thanks for the info!

Didn’t they walk back on this?

That’s depressing 🤦🏽‍♂️ everybody go on strike against unity

I just bought rust n I thought it was one of the greatest games I’ve ever played heartbreaking ta hear

Tbh facepunch has been killing rust more and more the past year with every update..

I could rage install my game now... id have to do it a bunch but i think that over time i could cost a company more money than they got from my game, just from spite for actions from a player in there game. As a human i might figure out how to make a computer program that just installs the game enough cancels it then restarts the download to automate it, then i could scale it up. This is worse than the steam thing that everyone technically got/is getting payed for. I smell class action.

Facepunch already made his money... We will see soon what he decides, he won't lose anything.

Could they transfer the game to another engine Idk how it all works not a game dev

Well this would be problematic because of hackers getting on their new Ruski account after bans. Guess it costs them $ now.

If it does let's hope the devs swap engines

I tried getting in to Rust man but the core mechanics are made to kill off the new playerbase. Its all tryhards killing noobs because if you dont kill the noobs they just get strong enough to get bombs and hit your base.

if i lose a 10k+ rust inv due to this im over this game shits gone downhill fast

god damnit unity

It's what happen when the guy from EA who wanted player to pay to reload, starts working at unity

Jumping the gun a bit with this video