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THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES

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Case ########-17 An examination of mental health care. Audio recorded by the Archivist, in situ. Content warnings: - Arguments - Relationship conflict - Second-person Point-Of-View statement - Hospitals / Mental institutions - Mental illness - Gaslighting - Mental health abuse - Medical / Therapeutic malpractice - Victim blaming - Diminution / belittling language - Name invalidation - Involuntary commitment - Medication (inc involuntary medication) - Suicidal ideation (implied) - Psychosis / unreality - Paranoia - Explicit language - Threats - Body horror - Avoidance of facts - Mentions of: death, police brutality, gore - SFX: screaming, high pitched tones, discordant music, medication, violence.
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Edited by Nico Vettese, Elizabeth Moffatt, Brock Winstead & Alexander J Newall;
Written by Jonathan Sims and directed by Alexander J Newall;
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@torcaace
@torcaace Жыл бұрын
ah yes, the Spiral. the literal entity of "Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss"
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
or mansplain, manipulate, malewife !
@FoxfurYT
@FoxfurYT 6 ай бұрын
Jon, Jacob, Jinglehimer Smith That’s my name tooooooo
@FoxfurYT
@FoxfurYT 6 ай бұрын
Idk anymore
@alexgroot2508
@alexgroot2508 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, so good to have Basira back. I almost started to miss her blazing hypocrisy.
@f_mva
@f_mva 3 жыл бұрын
_basira voice:_ why yes, i've had my feelings surgically removed, along with my common sense-
@GrimSavant
@GrimSavant 3 жыл бұрын
Local absolute goddamn patsy for every single part of Elias's plan Basira Hussein: How dare you get manipulated!
@ianbirchfield5124
@ianbirchfield5124 3 жыл бұрын
is it just me or do i hate all the characters you're supposed to like and vice versa? everyone loved Melanie, Daisy and Basira. i hated all of them! Melanie, my God! i wish i could have ripped her fucking eyes out! her anger always got in the way of EVERYTHING! Basira always thinks she's got the moral highground but more often than not she has no idea what she's talking about! Daisy had NO personality. what pissed me off the most was that everyone else loved her. i swear, i would never want to work in the institute if i was going to have insufferable colleages like them!
@toastghost9145
@toastghost9145 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I could do without.
@chronos5882
@chronos5882 2 жыл бұрын
Almost
@nekonyx
@nekonyx 3 жыл бұрын
The slightly too long laugh, the calm authority, it’s grotesquely perfect
@sunnlovesorange
@sunnlovesorange Жыл бұрын
no one's gonna talk about john going "can we not have a moment?" after sounding like him and martin hugged
@PineeTree99
@PineeTree99 5 күн бұрын
I was looking for this xD
@jaykkinell7267
@jaykkinell7267 3 жыл бұрын
"Not now Helen." - john nearly every episode
@amphitritemists4595
@amphitritemists4595 3 жыл бұрын
It's always "Not now, Helen" and never "How are you, Helen?"
@coinlockerbaby578
@coinlockerbaby578 3 жыл бұрын
@@amphitritemists4595 That is an extremely Helen thing to say
@nemnyoom
@nemnyoom 3 жыл бұрын
i'm helen :>
@nikonikoknees4488
@nikonikoknees4488 Жыл бұрын
@@nemnyoom we are all simultaneously Helen and not-Helen
@nemnyoom
@nemnyoom Жыл бұрын
@@nikonikoknees4488 i think i meant on my birth certificate
@EduardoVazquez-hh5tz
@EduardoVazquez-hh5tz 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I heard John expressing Dr. David’s laugh, I can only imagine that Dr. David’s “real” laugh is like Helen’s and Micheal’s
@Cheshire5174
@Cheshire5174 Жыл бұрын
thats possible, the Stranger and The Spiral aren't too far apart, a bit like the Lonely and (choose between The Buried and The Vast), but I personally think its creepier if jon's rendition is what it sounds like. I imagine his face emotionless until he laughs, and it returns to emotionless the second he stops (a bit like Breekon & Hope in the statement given by the *real* breekon)
@moonbunnygw8342
@moonbunnygw8342 11 ай бұрын
​@@Cheshire5174this is purely Spiral tho
@silversalmon9909
@silversalmon9909 19 күн бұрын
@@moonbunnygw8342 I feel like in this post-change world, a lot of the lines between the fears become slightly blurred.
@missep1830
@missep1830 3 жыл бұрын
"and you trust him to do that?" Martin's "yes I do" was SO SATISFYING shut up Basira
@meloncaaat2050
@meloncaaat2050 3 жыл бұрын
Basira: I want to listen Jon: *starts condescending and verbally abusing her*
@cyrilltate7065
@cyrilltate7065 Жыл бұрын
Tbh she kinda deserves it the way she treated him so far. Not the gaslighting or all that shit, but Jon has been way too nice with her, considering she constantly blamed him for everything for months, as if she's a saint or something
@phosismyb1tch717
@phosismyb1tch717 Жыл бұрын
@@cyrilltate7065 but "it's complicated" don't you remember?
@jazmineraymond7495
@jazmineraymond7495 Жыл бұрын
​@@cyrilltate7065Completely deserved.
@najhoant
@najhoant 3 жыл бұрын
Sims really brought his a-game with the voice acting in this one
@Maskami
@Maskami 3 жыл бұрын
The man is a fucking icon. This is a delight to listen to.
@macabrecitrus2127
@macabrecitrus2127 3 жыл бұрын
The evil chuckles especially
@BeautifulEarthJa
@BeautifulEarthJa 2 жыл бұрын
indeed
@zinniebug7555
@zinniebug7555 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't get over the fact he plagiarized his own name though. Sir did all of this, but couldn't give the mc an original name
@DJSilly9
@DJSilly9 Жыл бұрын
@@zinniebug7555 to be fair idk the whole story but I've heard in qnas it was a mistake, also on the magnus protocol pre-launch livestream they were joking about "hey what if we named one of these guys alex so we're even?" and that's very silly
@faxonii
@faxonii 3 жыл бұрын
i wanna [EXTENDED SOUNDS OF BRUTAL PIPE MURDER] dr. david
@formlessentity
@formlessentity 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@buttercupsartandanimation5926
@buttercupsartandanimation5926 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@daishoryujin95
@daishoryujin95 Жыл бұрын
You can just call it “Eliasing”
@jazmineraymond7495
@jazmineraymond7495 Жыл бұрын
Same
@xaroz904
@xaroz904 11 ай бұрын
as someone who's been in the "system", yea, some doctors are like this. and yea, i went 12 years only seeing the same doctor 2 or three times. so i can agree that Dr.David deserves to be - as put it by @daisyhoryujin95 - "Elias'd"
@trobertson3951
@trobertson3951 3 жыл бұрын
“Continually Gaslighting Patients: ASMR”
@torcaace
@torcaace Жыл бұрын
*my credit card gets declined* my therapist:
@torcaace
@torcaace Жыл бұрын
this is a joke btw, my therapist is wonderfully supportive
@Ghostrecall_M
@Ghostrecall_M Жыл бұрын
​@@torcaace would be funny if they became your Anti-Therapist or NotTherapist.
@LeisaTheGreat
@LeisaTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
by the far the creepiest statement so far...and i'm just picturing Basira standing there, completely unsettled, watching jon cosplay as a spiral doctor, talking to no one :(((
@cupcaketv5673
@cupcaketv5673 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and this time I also wondered sometimes if Basira can also hear the background sounds, and if she can, if there're really objects moving or if it's 'just' the sounds
@thestranger4894
@thestranger4894 5 ай бұрын
@@cupcaketv5673considering how statements amplify the emotions of those around the heart it personally, I assume they can see and hear what Jon’s imagining
@cielzimmory8809
@cielzimmory8809 3 жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated but one of the patron's names Alex reads out at the end is "Peter Lucas' Life Insurance Policy" and I cannot express how much I love that.
@eitakou
@eitakou 29 күн бұрын
And with a straight tone? Absolutely hysterical
@emmathestonedspider8676
@emmathestonedspider8676 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Dr. Phil survived the apocalypse?
@amythetoon6535
@amythetoon6535 3 жыл бұрын
ASGVKDVLUGYDI LITTERALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING (fuck dr. phil)
@bucketlist3727
@bucketlist3727 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Phil, avatar of the asshole? Checks out
@Nightymoon501
@Nightymoon501 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Phil doesn't deserve jon's voice
@macabrecitrus2127
@macabrecitrus2127 3 жыл бұрын
Guess he would have a similar domain. One with the Eye mixed in it, for his love of exposing vulnerable people
@theevilbean
@theevilbean Жыл бұрын
This is so true lmao
@nerysstuart4210
@nerysstuart4210 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first episode where I actually had to skip the statement part... I've never actually been in a situation like this but _god_ I only got like 2 minutes into the statement before I just went Nope Nope Nope
@nerysstuart4210
@nerysstuart4210 3 жыл бұрын
Well damn if I knew being uncomfortable would get me a heart from RQ I would've skipped an episode sooner /j
@mirandaking1618
@mirandaking1618 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve paused it to come to comments to see just how bad it is. I’m borderline at MH crisis atm and can tell it’s going to be triggering 😂
@AutumnF
@AutumnF 6 ай бұрын
As someone who has been admitted to the psych ward twice, this one hit home. Like the old saying goes, “if you have a fear, TMA has an episode about it!” As someone with the exact fear this focuses on, I think that RQ portrayed it perfectly. I skipped it on my first watch through, but came back afterwards to see. It was oddly… affirming? Validating? Showing that I’m not the only one struggling with this.
@duckky2443
@duckky2443 5 ай бұрын
same, i feel like this episodee hits home 100% to me (which is why i skipped it but only now listening to it and i have to say, if my mental health/wellbeing hadn't improved from a few years ago i would've broken down to hearing this (gaslighting + medical malpractise + paranoia...., the works) but that's a giant compliment for jonny he portrayed it PERFECTLY!!)
@Drotdog
@Drotdog Ай бұрын
This episode and "Strung Out" 5 episodes ago (The spider play with Francis) really hit me where it hurts at certain points. I listened to them all the way through but I had to take a break after them, while I normally would have just kept going through.
@racoon_in_ankhmorpork
@racoon_in_ankhmorpork 2 жыл бұрын
“Hahahaha. Hahahaha. Hahahaha- 😐 I joke, of course.” Bruhh 😭💀 Doctor Gaslight is a funny villain, I like him. Obnoxious to the core. Well done, Jonny, both for the writing and the voice acting. (+Helen continuing to be a queen!!!!! We stan.)
@wave5171
@wave5171 2 жыл бұрын
this was a really good episode, and as a nonbinary person who's been in a treatment facility, that was fucked
@minuspi8372
@minuspi8372 2 жыл бұрын
> Enby > Named Leaf Checks out
@dreamybombstudios724
@dreamybombstudios724 Жыл бұрын
Oh god I'm glad I'm not the only one it made me shiver
@windydayys
@windydayys 11 ай бұрын
this was literally the first and probably the only episode that got me I’m glad I’m not the only one
@Deadflower019
@Deadflower019 18 күн бұрын
The ADHD, being Transgender, and my fear of everyone hating me did not enjoy this episode :(
@stranger666karma7
@stranger666karma7 9 күн бұрын
Related a lot to this ep. The doc is legit just my own head. It was kinda comforting tho. It felt like someone understood and like I could show this ep to ppl to explain how I feel and stuff yk?
@minuspi8372
@minuspi8372 2 жыл бұрын
3:09 NO! Jon didn't cause this, Jonah did! It was Jon's body, but Jonah's will.
@toulouse7436
@toulouse7436 8 ай бұрын
you’re right and you should say it
@toastghost9145
@toastghost9145 Күн бұрын
It drives me mad (heh) that everyone blames Jon for this. He was tricked and manipulated every step of the way, and the second he took out the statement he was literally unable to stop himself, from what Annabelle described.
@sarahaimwithmoore
@sarahaimwithmoore 3 жыл бұрын
This is just gaslighting ASMR & I love it
@freamoonlight9395
@freamoonlight9395 3 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that Jon is pantomiming the scenes he describes and the sound effects just appear out of nowhere (exept when he's narrating something real time, like the web theatre). That would be extra freaky for for Basira to witness.
@spawnofheck504
@spawnofheck504 Жыл бұрын
Counterpoint: he's making them. Like the world's most talented parrot
@skyhideaway
@skyhideaway Жыл бұрын
@@spawnofheck504 this made me cackle
@Deadflower019
@Deadflower019 18 күн бұрын
@@spawnofheck504 he Knows exactly how to make the right noise.
@someoneawesome8717
@someoneawesome8717 3 жыл бұрын
Statement ends at 21:40 in case you want to skip the gaslighting
@miratarnish6316
@miratarnish6316 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I didn't skip the gaslighting myself, but it had me really close to my tolerance threshold to listen to it. I'm in the kind of household where mental illness is "made up" until you have a breakdown, and medication for it is "harmful and does nothing." It kind of hurt to hear him read this statement.
@karenlinares7541
@karenlinares7541 3 жыл бұрын
Thats really sweet It must suck that people have been through the worse of this and have to suffer with PTSD afterword
@someoneawesome8717
@someoneawesome8717 3 жыл бұрын
@@karenlinares7541 there's an entire AO3 tag just dedicated to the world putting itself back together
@emileyhoffman2288
@emileyhoffman2288 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so, so much for the timestamp. I read to content warnings and was really worried I'd have to skip this episode entirely, but didn't want to miss the character bits.
@Houndnwolf
@Houndnwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@cartoonistanonymous
@cartoonistanonymous Жыл бұрын
10:40 " °_°... Is that like a euphemism or?" I'm dying cry laughing
@Izzy-fv1ng
@Izzy-fv1ng 3 жыл бұрын
I really really really hate the spiral. This is a pinpoint of my exact fear.
@neriumdelusion
@neriumdelusion 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too me too , funky mentally ill spiral avatar time I guess
@drzeworyj
@drzeworyj 2 жыл бұрын
exactly. irrationality. being unable to save yourself using your own mind.
@lilpetz500
@lilpetz500 Жыл бұрын
I'm viscerally terrified of the Spiral, yet so drawn to it. This episode was not easy to get through for just how sharply it hit the scariest concepts of the Spiral. Like I rely a lot on the word of professionals around me and criticism, feeding on this would be easy here. Hate hate hate Dr David just. The voice acting is so well done to where Jon's mannerisms, tone, and even laugh are all portraying a character
@a_jae_doe
@a_jae_doe Жыл бұрын
Literally esp bc it can actually happen. Sure I'm scared of Bloody Mary stalking me with mirrors & ripping out my eyes but if something happens and I end up in an institute this could genuinely happen and has happened in the past to real people I'm sure. The lonely and the spiral feel so real compared to the other fears
@Drak_buddy
@Drak_buddy Жыл бұрын
Imma be honest I don’t quit get the spirals fear (hasn’t finished episode)
@achnav3762
@achnav3762 3 жыл бұрын
Martin stop ! Stop saying "it's okay" when it's clearly not okay! You're saying it all the time ! Spit your guts out! Shout! Be mad! John doesn't realise there are things he doesn't know anymore. If you say "it's okay" he is going to trust you! You need say things before it is too late and you can't trust him anymore! I'm worried. I am deeply worried.
@someoneawesome8717
@someoneawesome8717 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually something that they deal with later
@teleutenachtigaller2762
@teleutenachtigaller2762 2 жыл бұрын
@@someoneawesome8717 good to know
@cupcaketv5673
@cupcaketv5673 Жыл бұрын
​@@someoneawesome8717Oh thank god
@captaincrazycreative
@captaincrazycreative Ай бұрын
Neither of these bitches know how to be honest about their feelings
@gibbles72
@gibbles72 3 жыл бұрын
“You always manage to smell bad”, makes me laugh like a mad man.
@christianturley1701
@christianturley1701 3 жыл бұрын
We don't like the word mad in this house.
@jydeosaure6564
@jydeosaure6564 3 жыл бұрын
The double standard for jon and daisy coming from basira is RIDICULOUS honestly, even before all this
@SorchaSublime
@SorchaSublime 2 жыл бұрын
Hm, yes its almost as if basira is in love with daisy or something
@elevalero716
@elevalero716 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yeah, Mr Sims, you sure are creepy, but you can't escape being my new comfort ASMR.
@teaarson
@teaarson Жыл бұрын
C...comfort?
@elevalero716
@elevalero716 Жыл бұрын
@@teaarson ok so there's this asmr genre about kidnapping and-
@calamity2383
@calamity2383 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I listen to this to go to sleep lmao
@daniellecollins8257
@daniellecollins8257 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only episodes that actually upset me. Dr. David is basically just what my thoughts sound like mid panic attack so that's great
@FailxMonster
@FailxMonster 11 ай бұрын
I don't think Dr David has a medical license
@someoneawesome8717
@someoneawesome8717 3 жыл бұрын
YIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEESSSSS as someone who's actually been in a ward like that this was very pointy. Not a pleasant listen
@screaminggecko7660
@screaminggecko7660 3 жыл бұрын
yea, fucking honestly. I had a seizure in one after a suicide attempt (they left me in a hallway with flickering lights outside a room where someone was slamming on the door) and I was told to stop being difficult and that the orderly "understood games and wouldn't play along" while it was literally on my record that I have seizures and sudden loud noises and stress are major triggers for them. Plus I was still supposed to be watched for delayed reactions to the stuff I tried to OD on
@Maskami
@Maskami 3 жыл бұрын
'Dr David' Jon is probably #2 on the Hot Jon scale, right under 'Fix Your Gaze On This Wretched Thing' Jon.
@swiftfeathers7028
@swiftfeathers7028 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT? LIKE HELLO SIR
@timberprospects
@timberprospects 2 жыл бұрын
allo people baffle me
@rosefoxwell-morgan4316
@rosefoxwell-morgan4316 2 жыл бұрын
@@timberprospects we are also baffled. Sexuality is hard
@confused-as-ell
@confused-as-ell Жыл бұрын
@@timberprospects agreed
@DJSilly9
@DJSilly9 Жыл бұрын
I do not understand you people anymore I got the ceaseless watcher jon but not this you're all sick sick people
@Houndnwolf
@Houndnwolf 3 жыл бұрын
I hate this episode in particular. The way mental health is handled outside of the apocalypse is so very unnerving. The fact there is a part of this hellscape that is no different than before it became a hellscape is horrifying.
@SkyP9812
@SkyP9812 3 ай бұрын
The irony of the spiral - the physical manifestation of the fear of going insane - gasslighting you into believing you're making your own insanity up, does not escape me
@vannyssa
@vannyssa 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love The Spiral, it scares me and fascinates me at the same time. The hospital atmosphere, the unknown medications, just everything is perfect and I want more. Also I want to marry Helen 😳😏
@cezar3169
@cezar3169 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@quietnerdything7176
@quietnerdything7176 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with HARD impostor syndrome this hits too close to home :')
@vittosito381
@vittosito381 4 ай бұрын
"everyone legitimately does hate you!" after 177 episodes, this podcast has finally arrived at my one true fear
@AutumnIsFalling331
@AutumnIsFalling331 5 ай бұрын
(6:34) Jon - "I'm sorry" Martin - "sighs* It's ok, I understand" Hugs* Basira - Rolls her eyes and scoffs*, "Are you done?" Jon - Still hugging Martin* "Can we not have a moment?? >:( "
@SeerOfTime577
@SeerOfTime577 Жыл бұрын
Jonny still astounds me with his voice acting. Am I the only one who wanted to cry at being reverse-gaslit? 19:44 - The Laugh.
@Virtualmess32
@Virtualmess32 Жыл бұрын
God its SO FUCKING GOOD its so unsettling and weird and NOT RIGHT
@PANCAKEMINEZZ
@PANCAKEMINEZZ 3 жыл бұрын
"And Michael was rubbish compared to me" Excuse me, you are half the intimidating, wild card, sociopathic sounding bystander archetype Michael was. I miss Michael....
@Cheshire5174
@Cheshire5174 Жыл бұрын
agreed. though to be fair, Helen is on the path to becoming like him
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
mag 101 gave me trauma 💀‼️
@ArgoBargo
@ArgoBargo Жыл бұрын
She’s way more fun tho
@104snowstorm
@104snowstorm 9 ай бұрын
We stan our giggling king
@CTShun
@CTShun 3 жыл бұрын
Helens really on that Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss shit lmao
@cantaloupegodling352
@cantaloupegodling352 7 ай бұрын
The Gaslighting and Police Brutality episode. What a banger. Also Martin and Jon hugging after having some good communication and Basira looking at them with annoyance (and Jealousy)
@vipira1001
@vipira1001 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I was tearing up more than terrified as a trans woman with other brain issue is a statement to how close to a litteral nightmare those kind of places can be when real doctor do say those kind of things as some kind of sick test.
@Harleymotor
@Harleymotor 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit i did not recognize Jon's voice when he started as Dr.David omg
@l_a_d537
@l_a_d537 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, I've been scared of statements before. I think this is the first time I've been absolutely livid. Between Basira's downward character arc and my desire to bash Dr. David's head in, this was a fun time
@jonahkaiser5876
@jonahkaiser5876 3 жыл бұрын
This is another one of those episodes that hits a little too close to home. I haven't been taken seriously by so many doctors (usually men, who woulda thought) so this is ... unnerving
@_kai2702
@_kai2702 3 жыл бұрын
also who was in charge of the [FLESH PEELING] sounds. i just wanna talk- i have a love/hate relationship with the soundscaping in this podcast so i guess its doing its job aha.
@jazmindodds
@jazmindodds 3 жыл бұрын
This statement wasn't necessarily scary but so unnerving and damn damn relatable, Jesus Christ.
@goblininabubblebath7154
@goblininabubblebath7154 2 жыл бұрын
“yeah i guess i’m just not very scared by the main topics tma discusses”- except for tHIS FUCKIGN EPISODE fghjdks
@Noah-xc3vd
@Noah-xc3vd 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime I hear Helen's voice I'm filled with joy! Also, the way John tells the "statement" in this episode is so fascinating, such a different delivery from the other ones... lovely!
@semiengima
@semiengima 3 жыл бұрын
Was Jon making all those paper noises and moving furniture??
@kaayya.k
@kaayya.k Жыл бұрын
Now I really wanna see him beatboxing
@ButterflyColors
@ButterflyColors Жыл бұрын
@@kaayya.k this is the most confusing comment ever but I find it hilarious
@cupcaketv5673
@cupcaketv5673 Жыл бұрын
​@@kaayya.k💀 Thanks for that mental image it's hilarious
@user-kn9zj5eu4v
@user-kn9zj5eu4v 8 ай бұрын
20:49 why did it take me this long to make the connection to the name? Wonderland. Like Alice in Wonderland. Dreams and crazy products of your imagination
@Badficwriter
@Badficwriter 4 ай бұрын
@@user-kn9zj5eu4v Ironic jokes about not liking the word 'mad' contrasting with the Chesire Cat saying 'we're all mad here'
@artemisknowstoomuch1027
@artemisknowstoomuch1027 5 ай бұрын
POV Jonny Sims conversion therapy ASMR
@ilexdiapason
@ilexdiapason Жыл бұрын
"did you cause this?" asks the woman who SENT jon the statement that started the apocalypse
@lixyororke
@lixyororke 2 ай бұрын
funniest part of this season is jon sounding like a little kid who needs to go to the toilet on a road trip and martin being like "seriously? now? you just went!" or "you shouldve gone before we left!" like every time he starts making the noises like he wants to make a statement i just imagine him hopping from foot to foot and giving martin big puppy dog eyes
@userMIA709
@userMIA709 2 жыл бұрын
God Frank is a good actor, they really capture Basiras character well
@Lizzy_Stories09
@Lizzy_Stories09 3 ай бұрын
Oh! Yes! Jonathan Sims antagonist voice acting!
@emmaliving588
@emmaliving588 3 жыл бұрын
This hit very close to home as someone with mental illness who has been told that I have been making it up or faking it. if you seek real professionals they will understand and they will take you seriously anyone else in a situation like this not to sound stupid but it will get better I promise
@dimsunstuff
@dimsunstuff 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the statements vary so much in style. Spices up the apocalypse a bit. Also the mechanical laugh was creepy as hell
@bucket.of.b0nes
@bucket.of.b0nes 10 ай бұрын
You know the acting is good when you want to punch a character
@SmokeyMountainSuccubus
@SmokeyMountainSuccubus 3 жыл бұрын
This is just American healthcare.
@alphalilly8207
@alphalilly8207 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is just underrated.
@eliskakordulova
@eliskakordulova 3 жыл бұрын
Basira gives me strong Rosa Diaz vibes. Also great episode. A psychiatrist being dismissive of my condition is one of my biggest fears.
@valley2827
@valley2827 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my inner monologue being read outloud! I love it! ❤🥰💁‍♀️👑💎🎉💋💕
@kellanlevi5663
@kellanlevi5663 2 жыл бұрын
This episode made me feel like my shirt collar was getting smaller
@DJSilly9
@DJSilly9 Жыл бұрын
Why does he keep doing a stupid little giggle I love this one
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
YOU! STOP BEING EVERYWHERE.
@DJSilly9
@DJSilly9 Жыл бұрын
@@mznday DUDE I GET THIS LIKE EVERY DAY LMAO
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
@@DJSilly9 ITS TRUE?
@DJSilly9
@DJSilly9 Жыл бұрын
@@mznday yeah lol theres been so many people from different fandoms going "why are you everywhere" and it confuses me to this day
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
@@DJSilly9 i saw you on a will wood post as well 💀
@tylerjseph2547
@tylerjseph2547 3 ай бұрын
"You can't hunt a monster you're refusing to see". Is that Jon defending himself and confronting Basira's hypocrisy? I am so proud of our boy.
@owenr-m4619
@owenr-m4619 Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine Helen in a nurse outfit. Just to really piss them off more. And to be more endearing
@averyfields8183
@averyfields8183 6 ай бұрын
Sexy nurse outfit Helen.
@faxonii
@faxonii 3 жыл бұрын
[FABRIC RUSTLES] !!!!!!
@dragoncult666
@dragoncult666 3 жыл бұрын
🤗
@RyuuKageDesu
@RyuuKageDesu 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, it feels like time is stretching between recordings. Am I trapped in an apocalypse? Oh, all of 2020, and what we've seen at just the start of 2021, that's right.
@thefangirlthatdraws1414
@thefangirlthatdraws1414 7 ай бұрын
“Peter Lucas’ Life Insurance” this is why I still listen shout outs through to the end I laughed so loud 😂
@faxonii
@faxonii 3 жыл бұрын
head the content warnings y’all!! **spoilers for the episode** the statement features extreme gaslighting, in the form of one character attempting to gaslight another character into believing that they don’t have any mental health problems, that they’re just doing it all for attention. unknown medication is purposefully given to that character. the character is heavily belittled, told that everyone hates them and that they’re a waste of air. the statement is also told in the second person, with us as the listeners being in the place of the character. if you don’t think you can handle listening to that, you can skip it! the statement goes from 11:24 to 21:40 !!
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, my mental state cannot handle this specific episode rn
@tokyo_lights
@tokyo_lights 9 ай бұрын
i have a v rare chronic illness and a lot of teachers and doctors think me getting sick is "convenient" bc im skipping school or sum ?? to the point of if i get sick on monday and recover by the weekend ill still pretend to be sick.. so good job guys this is rather spooky gaslighting
@flynland7366
@flynland7366 3 жыл бұрын
That doctor scene hit different if you are trans
@davv6628
@davv6628 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this! It is really unnerving and at one point I had to skip through the rest of the statement.
@wave5171
@wave5171 2 жыл бұрын
it do tho
@bladenot-runner1795
@bladenot-runner1795 2 жыл бұрын
The times I've had doctors give me shit, I started grilling them on why they think they know better than the medical consensus on diagnosis and treatment and on what basis they're making their assertions. Back them into corners with yes or no statements. Mention the board of psychiatry. I'm not very nice about this anymore, lol.
@lorek33perandfriends47
@lorek33perandfriends47 2 жыл бұрын
The bits abt names and stuff…shudder “If that’s what you’d like me to call you, I suppose I can do you that favor”. I thank god I live in a place where I’ve never had to hear that line
@autumnspirit5402
@autumnspirit5402 8 күн бұрын
Yes, exactly like strung out
@laurahenriksen19
@laurahenriksen19 3 жыл бұрын
I freaking love Helen. These have picked up a whole new momentum. I have saved up a collection to run through... let the race begin...
@Ghostito-cs2rr
@Ghostito-cs2rr 10 ай бұрын
Oh that statement hit way to close to home, im going to go cry in the corner now
@imacommenter1255
@imacommenter1255 Жыл бұрын
6:42 they were definitely just staring lovingly into each other’s eyes for a moment there Edit: actually wait did they hug?!? Omg that’s better
@hideonagakami75
@hideonagakami75 Жыл бұрын
I'm a little startled at how quickly this got under my skin even with the trigger warnings
@tigerlilly7070
@tigerlilly7070 3 жыл бұрын
This is, by far, the scariest to me. Cause this... this feels to real.
@milkflavoredlacroix4868
@milkflavoredlacroix4868 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan goes gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss with the alias of Dr. David
@faxonii
@faxonii 3 жыл бұрын
this episode was so good!! kinda uncomfy to listen to (what with the gaslighting and mental health struggles), but this was written in such a genuinely terrifying way! probably my favorite statement now (even though i keep saying that each s5 statement is my new favorite lmao). i was genuinely stunned when jon/dr. david said he didn’t know what the medication was, i just paused it and sat there processing that for a minute. jon’s too-long, unsettling laugh was also fantastic. time to go listen to this five more times
@sirpuffball6366
@sirpuffball6366 2 жыл бұрын
i love how this is just an eldritch fear of gaslighting
@Cheshire5174
@Cheshire5174 Жыл бұрын
Comments: talking about Dr Davids laugh me: it can't be that bad David: 19:44 Me: oh that's just wrong
@deadorionn
@deadorionn Жыл бұрын
the way my jaw dropped at "everyone legitimately does hate you" it was so funny
@melshinta2966
@melshinta2966 3 жыл бұрын
HELEN JUST SWOOPS IN FROM THE ELEVATORS OMG xD Also ayyyyy gut twisting this statement
@katielyn3000
@katielyn3000 Ай бұрын
as someone who has been to a psych ward this episode was very unsettling but jon saying “now, are we finally in a position to talk to Dr. David, you meaningless brat?” did have me blushing for reasons i can’t quite explain
@Bigburton3
@Bigburton3 Ай бұрын
Bro got rizzed up by bad therapy
@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises
@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises 10 ай бұрын
I never thought the Spiral could really affraid me. Then we talked about the fear that you're building up your mental condition for attention
@gamebearart7675
@gamebearart7675 3 жыл бұрын
THIS ONE IS LEGIT ONE OF MY FAVORITES
@missep1830
@missep1830 3 жыл бұрын
when he's doing the statements does Jon do the sound effects manually or do the background sounds also come out of his mouth, like the footsteps etc
@category-five-autism-event
@category-five-autism-event Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been told a lot of this from practitioners and therapists as a Disabled Nonbinary person, yeeeea. I did pause in the middle and take a break. I would probably be stuck in the spiral if I was in the TMA universe.
@quentinschrader7104
@quentinschrader7104 2 жыл бұрын
God the last few domains have been hitting really hard for me, I bet the fears would have a feast on me
@izzi4063
@izzi4063 3 жыл бұрын
oh I'm so afraid of the ending..
@ollieri
@ollieri 2 жыл бұрын
john's new asmr channel its pretty good, a little loud but the roleplays are spot on! really brought me back to the ol' days
@mznday
@mznday Жыл бұрын
no way 💀💀💀‼️
@daidrionjason8495
@daidrionjason8495 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one who loves Helen! 😭
@bnitreatmentschool7680
@bnitreatmentschool7680 3 жыл бұрын
im listening to this IN a residential
@Companion92
@Companion92 3 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting is so scary. Also love the evil laugh
@sheolcodemonkey4027
@sheolcodemonkey4027 11 ай бұрын
I've never been sent to a mental hospital, but I'm certainly not unfamiliar with people dismissing my mental health issues as just excuses and attention seeking, and worrying that on some level it might be true, and hell don't get me started on people, even professionals, telling me I just want to feel this way. Several of those points also hit weirdly close to home for my autistic traits, especially the part about always smelling bad, which is a specific major anxiety of mine. This one I actually curled up in a ball to hide from the mockery. This season has been pretty gnarly so far And of course Basira, who knowingly protected Daisy as she went on a vicious murder spree, doesn't accept Jon's "I didn't mean to" when he was *checks notes* literally not in physical control of what he was doing and couldn't have stopped if he tried WHICH HE DID. But sure, he owes her, he's the bad guy
@Yourfather1984
@Yourfather1984 3 ай бұрын
Damn! Dr. David's gaslighting feels feels so personal hearing it in this way
@callumjohn6622
@callumjohn6622 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that got me through this episode is imagining the bewildered faces of Martin and Basira as Jon paces around the room shuffling papers, fiddling with doors and occasionally slapping himself like a mime.
@pickaxegobrrr
@pickaxegobrrr 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how this statement is my comfort statement even though Dr. David is all of my doubt, denial and fear combined. Edit: I think I am in love with this spiral. The amount of time I listened to this statement in the past few months is unhealthy af
@moony3335
@moony3335 2 ай бұрын
I love jons little giggle whilst reading as the doctor❤️❤️
@ithinkimlost9472
@ithinkimlost9472 Жыл бұрын
My father is a doctor, my mum wanted to be a doctor but she was too empathetic. I learned from them a lot about doctors. The most honest and sympathetic smile you will ever see towards someone I know he hates, and fact I never know when he is lying despite knowing him my whole life. I am afraid of doctors, and not because I fear they’ll do something to me, they are just scary people. This episode hit perfectly in my strange and specific fear. I hate Dr. David.
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