RV Daily Towing Series: Ep 01 Keeping it Legal - Weights and Insurance

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Coromal Caravans

Coromal Caravans

6 жыл бұрын

Episode 01: Keeping it Legal - Weights and Insurance
Coromal Windsor have teamed up with Pat Callinan to produce the RV Daily Towing Series: Practical Guide to Modern Towing.

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@MegaChotoo
@MegaChotoo 2 жыл бұрын
John & Julie thank you so much. Explaining the acronyms though can be confusing and you two have put it so succinctly. I'm a rookie. It helps a great deal. Feel like I'm back to school again. LOL!
@mickj52
@mickj52 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, Yes the data is confusing and it takes time to digest all of it, but you have enlightened the facts to be a lot more easily understood! Thanks.
@gozfromoz119
@gozfromoz119 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys, Brilliant video for the information you have provided. I've only just spoken to a Toyota dealer about a new V200 Landcruiser as a tow vehicle and I was surprised a just how quickly I found that it can overload. My family van weighs 2500kg (approx 250kg on the tow ball) and Toyota also only calculate kerb weight with 10 litres of fuel and no occupants. Its rated payload by Toyota is only 600kg. Add Towball weight, 250kg, Full fuel, 130kg, tow bar and bullbar, 85kg - this only leaves 135kg for family of 5 and nothing else has yet been added. Thanks again for your info. Could have saved a drama.
@davidgrunsell9894
@davidgrunsell9894 4 ай бұрын
breakaway monitor is no longer required in NSW and prior it was only recommended not a requirement
@kerrikerry6687
@kerrikerry6687 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastically informative video. Thanks a million to everyone involved
@tooks1193
@tooks1193 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video, thanks for sharing!!
@nifty4859
@nifty4859 4 ай бұрын
Great video. At 5 min 20 seconds GVM was explained with the van unhitched. You must include the ball weight as part of the GVM. I must have missed the axel weights. The must have 7 to 10% of the trailer weight on the ball is technically not correct. This is a guide and is dependant on many factors. Trucks often have no weight on the A frame. Another example is with extended draw bars and short draw bars.
@colinl9018
@colinl9018 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining all the GVMTAREBALLWEIGHT alphabet in a clear and concise way. As a newbie about to enter into 'caravanland' i can now separate the wood from the trees, cheers.
@marckrummenacher9446
@marckrummenacher9446 Жыл бұрын
Great vid guys thanks for the info 👍
@cfriedalek
@cfriedalek 8 ай бұрын
Be careful with Kerb weight. Does not always include the driver. For example, I'm evaluating a Ford Everest 2023 and specs for Kerb weight explicitly say that it does not include occupants. Only includes a full tank of fuel and no occupants or cargo. Bummer really since there goes 90 kg just to get the thing moving! Cheers
@mrjunkp7090
@mrjunkp7090 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you install a weight distribution hitch to prevent sway and rollover. Never tow on the ball directly without spring tension bars properly adjusted. This should be mandatory.
@Mossop13
@Mossop13 2 жыл бұрын
@666 Dual Sport - Ditto D-Max prior to 2021 . . . . . . . and only then the Isuzu one.
@nifty4859
@nifty4859 4 ай бұрын
WDS shifts the load from the tow ball and distributes the weight on the rear car axels to the front wheels and trailer. They should be banned. WDS must be removed when on unsealed roads or negotiating driveways etc. also WDS laces stresses on the chassis of the car and the draw bar. WDS does not imply yaw (sway) prevention. Sway retention is a function of weight distribution including van, tow vehicle. Best to put some scales under the front wheels and compare unhitched and hitched. The purpose of WDS is to transfer weight to the front wheels so you can get proper steering.
@stevenrobinson9095
@stevenrobinson9095 2 жыл бұрын
Hi free thinkers, also consider weight over trailer tyres, do not overload one side, another factor is tyre load rating, if tyre trailer load per tyre 1080kg, & weight of trailer is 2500kg the tyres under rated. 7-03-2022.
@bernardplug690
@bernardplug690 2 жыл бұрын
"Do not over take turning vehicle" sign. that should also have the correct red and yellow reflectors as well to make it legal . Check it out.
@Ted...youtubee
@Ted...youtubee 2 жыл бұрын
I may have walked out of the room and missed it. Did you mention rear axle loading?
@gazzot8334
@gazzot8334 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched Ep 1 today. If this is an RV training film and you are engaged in caravan training courses. I am wondering why you show the white tow vehicle with caravan attached roll straight through the STOP sign at the junction without actually stopping. Unprofessional I thought !
@johnbontoft8548
@johnbontoft8548 2 жыл бұрын
and can you tell me a safe speed to tow a caravan i have been siting on 90 km is this ok
@niallkarger1057
@niallkarger1057 3 жыл бұрын
Well done .... yet fact manufacturer of the vehicle and van both miss represent there abilities. I see it over and over large vans ute style or mid size suv hunting possums as they tow it home the first time...........
@davidgirdham1439
@davidgirdham1439 2 жыл бұрын
I've just watched this video several times and I am confused. Isn't the ATM the combination of the payload and the ball weight of the caravan
@neildonald9263
@neildonald9263 2 жыл бұрын
Ok my car license say I have a gross vehicle mass of 4.5 ton. So that may car and trailer or caravan or boat . So if I have a 4x4 that weigh 2.8 tom and a caravan which weigh 3 ton load. So when I hook them both up together comes to 5.8 ton. Came I drive it on the road. This a grey zone for some people. I know may can tow it. The 4.5 ton the problem am I over weigh for my license. Would I need a LT license . Can you help me
@ianrobinson8518
@ianrobinson8518 2 жыл бұрын
You say kerb weight includes the driver. This is incorrect. It’s the unoccupied drive away weight of the showroom vehicle (with standard equipment and a full tank of fuel).
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up on this They really need to change this info as it is clearly wrong
@IH-nr7dx
@IH-nr7dx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steven_Rowe Listen carefully - She stated: "while this varies, USUALLY it includes the driver and liquids, such as oil and fuel" Usually, means not always, but many manufacturers make this allowance in their calculating their Kerb weight
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 2 жыл бұрын
@@IH-nr7dxUsual can't be used.this is very definite. Tare is the weight with 10 litres of fuel Kerb weight means the fuel tank is full, no accessories no passengers ie NOTHING.
@bradmarshall8918
@bradmarshall8918 Жыл бұрын
You've got ATM + GVM = GCM this is incorrect as both of these figures count the TBW. The correct figure is GTM + GVM = GCM.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to do this for American buyers as well. Our acronyms are different, but still the same principles. People tow illegally constantly in the US. The main reason people in the US tow illegally is the BS manufacturers post about their vehicle's capabilities. For example: Ford right now on their website says best in class towing, best in class payload, towing at least 12,000 lbs, 3000+ lbs of payload, etc. While this is technically true, it is NOT true for almost ALL trucks sold by Ford. You have to get a specific model and configuration to get each of those numbers, and no truck has them all. People will see a commercial saying the F150 can tow 12,000 lbs or see payload numbers like 3,000 lbs plus, and thing they all can do that, when in reality, their configuration will only tow 9,600 lbs and has a payload of 1,500lbs or less.
@mrjunkp7090
@mrjunkp7090 2 жыл бұрын
More important number to use is payload capacity of the tow vehicle. If tongue weight + cargo + passengers in tow vehicle is within tow vehicle payload limits, you can safely tow the trailer.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjunkp7090 payload is not the correct term. You should have said GVW, or Gross Vehicle Weight. Payload doesn't include options or accessories, and is a far too inaccurate number.
@MartinBurton
@MartinBurton 2 жыл бұрын
HGV/PSV B plus E driving instructor in the UK and European...
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 2 жыл бұрын
There is a major error here regarding kerb wieght. Firstly tare weight is the vehicle as it comes fro. The factory with 10 litres of fuel Cut and pasted from Toyota Kerb Mass (or Kerb Weight): is the mass of the vehicle in running order unoccupied and unladen with all fluid reservoirs filled to nominal capacity, including fuel and with all standard equipment. This I got from Toyota own website and this is for all vehicles You may want to amend this in the interest of correct information
@tdog1795
@tdog1795 Жыл бұрын
Agree, if I'm 158kg but my wife is 68kg, it's going to make a big difference to their definition of kerb weight.
@NoThingL0se
@NoThingL0se 3 жыл бұрын
citroen c5 aircross drawbar vertical load 50 kg. Can't even pull a 750 kg caravan?
@noithu8654
@noithu8654 3 жыл бұрын
Is my is my mother goose club out.
@zarajoe1
@zarajoe1 2 жыл бұрын
Kerb weight does not include the driver
@IH-nr7dx
@IH-nr7dx 2 жыл бұрын
Some manufacturers include the driver in their kerb weight ratings. She stated: "while this varies, USUALLY it includes the driver and liquids, such as oil and fuel" Usually, means not always, but many manufacturers make this allowance in their calculating their Kerb weight
@zarajoe1
@zarajoe1 2 жыл бұрын
@@IH-nr7dx I don't believe this. How can the weight of a driver be included when people come in all shapes and sizes. Also wouldn't this be stated? Otherwise how would you know if the kerb weight includes the driver or not? Which car maker includes the driver in the kerb weight? And what weight did they choose for the driver? And how do you know said car maker includes the driver in kerb weight? To sum I don't believe any manufacturer includes the driver in kerb weight
@lesliemeehan3724
@lesliemeehan3724 Жыл бұрын
i did not understand
@Mick_4591
@Mick_4591 Жыл бұрын
Great video how ever iwhat ever Pat C says CV i take with agrain of salt as his " reviews are NOT independent as he " reviews what CV hes being paid to do and say
@mrpaulgrimm6129
@mrpaulgrimm6129 4 жыл бұрын
Your steering wheel is on the wrong side!
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? I'm assuming a yank living in their little bubble.
@mrpaulgrimm6129
@mrpaulgrimm6129 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Cranston You drive on the wrong side of the road
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrpaulgrimm6129 You come across like you are 6 years old. Good job.
@web525
@web525 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe you has covered the importance of GCM sufficiently. Most dual cab Utes have a GCM around 6000 kg, while stating they have a tow capacity of 3500 kg. Towing a van that weights 3500kg means that you can probably only tow legally with a full tank of fuel, one passenger and no accessories or other gear in the ute. Leave the family and most of your gear that does't fit in the caravan at home.
@runtr8389
@runtr8389 2 жыл бұрын
PAY the extra for "agreed value" , if it does not say the words" Agreed value " it is not an "agreed value" , lot of words like , sum insured , or market value , or the lesser ,retail value , they all mean market value ( except for agreed value ) that is the ins company , will determine the value of your van, , and NOT YOU , if something untoward happens , and you thinks its worth thousands more , the extra $100 ( or what ever it is ) for agreed , will look pretty cheap , and no arguments with an assessor over the market value ,, ( guess what is do for a living )
@rossatkinson3160
@rossatkinson3160 Жыл бұрын
Since when did Kerb weight include a driver? Not one source from any vehicle manufacturer can I find, that the Kerb mass includes a driver. There are so many vague definitions of Curb/Kerb mass that it is ridiculous. It is not a reliable starting point, tare is the only starting point we have that is reliable and consistent, it includes 10L of fuel. Prove me wrong.
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