RV Hydraulic Maintenance and Fluid Replacement | RV POPPING OR SAGGING [HOW TO]
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Typically you can remove fluid from your reservoir and add anit-stiction fluid/fork oil (link below) and that will stop the popping or sagging from occurring. We had an extreme case of popping and sagging going on. After 4 years of Full time living in this unit taking away and adding fluid over the years, the transmission fluid and fork oil had thinned so much there wasn't enough viscosity to hold the weight of the RV. We contacted our manufacturer and Lippert to check before doing what we did.
We removed all of the fluid from the reservoir. We replaced the fluid with 1 gallon of Lucas Hydraulic & Transmission fluid and 2 qts of Fork oil. After replacing the fluid, we raised and lowered the jacks 2 times ensuring that the new fluid was pulled through the lines. Cleaning the jacks for us was also an important step as this hadn't been done for about 1.5 years. Environment build up and road grime can negativity impact your jacks. Best practice is to hitch up while doing this. We are stationary at the moment and had plenty of clearance to allow the jacks to dip the end cap all the way to the ground.
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The products used in today's project:
HAND PUMP:
www.harborfreight.com/fluid-siphon-pump-62613.html
LUCAS HYDRAULIC FLUID:
barndoorag.com/lucas-universal-hydraulic-transmission-fluid-gallon-10017/?_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpNr4BRDYARIsAADIx9x_3eX-O-yIzbH1B3iGgFItG4o8nvK_9eoNUjuUEXUaahvC_xbbxYgaAkuPEALw_wcB
FORK OIL LINK:
www.motosport.com/product/?acctid=21700000001662562&adgroupid=60665238607&adpos=&campaignid=1469173138&cc=us&channel=online&creative=281245571033&device=c&ds_e_ad_type=pla&ds_e_product_group_id=494395392194&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007265446&ds_s_kwgid=58700005284112691&dskeywordid=92700046694312786&dsproductgroupid=494395392194&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpNr4BRDYARIsAADIx9zJfoVHE3lJQpWgptox7t6E9Hd8nVCmamF-0dJUMl1cKLatMMIC2FUaAk7REALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&key=Maxima-Fork-Oil&lid=92700046694312786&locationid={loc_phyiscal_ms}&matchtype=&merchid=348908&mrkgadid=3301755970&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=dirtbikeparts&mrkgcl=500&mrkgen=gpla&network=g&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&product_id=MXM000Z-X001-Y001&psreferrer=www.google.com/&pssource=true&rkg_id=0&segment=badger&storeid={product_store_id}&targetid=pla-494395392194&variant=MXM000Z-X001-Y001
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@unclesugar1139 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. You motivated me to take action on my Road Warrior toyhauler. Although I did not have a severe popping issue, I did have major issues with my main hydraulic slideout. More often than not, when it was time to vacate my site, the slide would not come in. I would spend 30-40 minutes working with it to get it in. It was so frustrating! Since I replaced the factory installed ATF with the Lucas hydraulic oil, the slide has been coming in every time I press the button. It is life changing! I also used a quart of the CAT fluid on the Lippert list, as there was a CAT dealer located 15 minutes from where I am staying. I appreciate the guidance you provided in your video. Once again, I am a Happy Camper! Safe travels.
@deanh7190 2 жыл бұрын
Nurses are the angels of medical care! Great advice on the hydraulics too. Enjoy the journey.
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chuckpotter1209 3 жыл бұрын
We are about to get our new FW that has hydraulic jacks, we have never had that system before, only electric. Hearing the sounds of your jacks before and after the maintenance fill really helped us know what is normal and not. Thank you. Great video and very helpful.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped...thanks for watching
@HappyPlaceDiaries 3 жыл бұрын
Good information! We have a cable system on our slides.. just replaced the motor.. routine maintenance is so important. Great job.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
You bet! Keeping up with maintenance is the most important thing.
@kabirniraula398 4 жыл бұрын
You did on a smooth way. Love you guys
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@justgonnagetbetter1037 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh I need this, I'm popping and sagging, oh wait RV.... Great video!
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂
@racheldoyle7710 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I came across this video. I’m having the same trouble with popping and front left sagging every 3 o 4 days. I am definitely going to try this. I have a 2018 Montana 3791rd.
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to you! Other trouble shooting options would be to call lippert directly.
@milano20s26 2 жыл бұрын
@@LonghaulLifesavers did this solve the sagging problem? Mine loses about 1/2” per week in the front.
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
@@milano20s26 it solved the sagging problem for us. The reason it sags is due to the loss of viscosity in the fluid.
@crizyljoypaz605 4 жыл бұрын
hey guys Im from Philippines I love watching your video♥️
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ❤
@howardkepple5623 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice information
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful. Safe travels.
@theodorehyatt1782 Жыл бұрын
Remember the thicker the fluid. the harder the pump has to work. RV industries aren't known for the quality parts they use.
@henrymills8221 10 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t the new oil jug be higher than the tank for it to siphon properly.
@ConsidertheWonders 4 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial. How did you know they used automatic transmission fluid in your system? Was that stated somewhere or was it more root cause analysis when the squeaks started?
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Originally I assumed it was automatic transmission fluid because it was red where as most hydraulic fluid is clear. After calling The factory they confirmed that it was ATF
@ironheadbridgeman9282 2 жыл бұрын
When you were having issues with your self leveling would it ever not self level ? Mine currently will not , front jacks will push the rv up but bleed off . I have to manually over correct to guess when it bleeds off , then manually put down the middle and rear jacks to level. Thanks
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that can be an issue with the hydraulic fluid, the hydraulic system or the sending unit for the level up
@cnetate 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Did you have any issues with the landing gear or Jack's coming down while hooked up to the truck and driving down the road before doing the fluid change?
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
No we did not have any issues with up or down movement hitching or once hitched to the truck. It sounded god awful beforehand thou. We are coming up on a year since replacing the fluid and we still have not had to add fork oil. No popping or sagging either. Best of luck to you with your landing gear!
@joshkissel0909 2 жыл бұрын
@@LonghaulLifesavers I am currently having that issue. Can't find any help on any videos or websites. My passenger rear 2 jacks fall during transport. I had to wire them up during transport. Weird thing is, my Fuzion doesn't become unlevel.
@starhopper457 8 ай бұрын
A very interesting video, and thank you!! A question if I may - what was the type of WD40 were you using? Silicon or PTFE based?
@LonghaulLifesavers 8 ай бұрын
Silicone
@proceedingonwardinamerica 3 жыл бұрын
How often should you change it? And would it say how much and what kind of fluid? Plus great job and video.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
When you should change is really dependent on the original fluid put in the system. When you start to notice popping or sagging it’s time to change the fluid. The fluid I used in our video will work in any hydraulic system and there should be a mark on the reservoir to tell you how much fluid to install. Hope this helps!
@proceedingonwardinamerica 3 жыл бұрын
@@LonghaulLifesavers thanks I’ll go look and see your video was helpful. Thanks again hope to see you at our live tomorrow. Enter to win
@Charles-in3zt 3 жыл бұрын
Is your 5th wheel a Vanleigh model? I have a 2017 Vanleigh Vilano 325RL and we have had a problem with the hydraulic hoses bursting. Vanleigh is a higher end 5th wheel and I can't believe how flimsy the hoses are. I am thinking Vanleigh has a problem with this issue and will be contacting them about it. I ask because I too would like to use the fluids you are talking about. We also have a noise under the bed at night that isn't loud but consistent, drives us crazy and I am wondering if this might be the hydraulic popping you talked about. Nice video.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Rick Bain yes we have a 2017 365rl. The hydraulic lines are a lippert product. While laying in bed if you are hearing a popping noise it’s most likely the front jacks. We have been full time in it since September 1, 2016. The fluid was so old and watered down from years of use and adding fork oil. We needed something with better viscosity to stop the popping and sagging we were experiencing. We have had no issues since using the Lucas hydraulic and transmission oil. We also replaced on a friends rv (2018 325rl) and it has fixed her problems as well.
@Charles-in3zt 3 жыл бұрын
@@LonghaulLifesavers thanks, I guess my concern since we have had hose failures is if the extra viscosity might cause additional pressure on the hydraulic system that might cause additional failures. Any hose failures on either yours or your friends 325? Also where exactly can you see the hoses that go to the slide outs. I can see where the hoses that go to the jacks but not the slide-outs. One note, I think will keep us from being stranded in the future is I am having a 15 foot hydraulic hose made up that will reach from the front of the trailer where the hydraulic system is housed to any future hose failure. Do you know anything about when it is safe to remove a house and know that there is not any pressure behind it? On the latest hose failure to the middle jacks, we noticed the slide-outs wouldn't move and saw leaking fluid. I was hooked up to the truck and was able to crimp the hose with a pair of vise grips and then the slide-outs were able to be closed. That was a lifesaver. I'd love to communicate back and forth about experiences since we have the same year Vanleigh.
@daleagner8980 3 жыл бұрын
How has this solution been doing? Are you experiencing any more popping or sagging? I have a 2020 RV with this system and have added the fork oil and still have popping. If our RV sits level for a few weeks it actually drops about an inch or more during that time.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
We have had no popping or sagging and it has been almost six months....at one time we thought there was some sagging but we actually just sunk into the ground...I would highly recommend doing this if you have had any issues.
@realmarsattacksagain Жыл бұрын
Is there more than one fluid reservoir? Like one for the hydraulic jacks and another for the main slide?
@LonghaulLifesavers Жыл бұрын
There is usually only one reservoir that runs all the hydraulics throughout the coach
@ClarkeMotorsOC 23 күн бұрын
So the lines still had some original transmission fluid in them, did you end up having any issues mixing the Lucas Hydraulic & Transmission fluid with it?
@LonghaulLifesavers 22 күн бұрын
Yes the only way to get it all out would be to disconnect all the hydraulic lines at every jack and do a flush.
@rockstrsameer17 4 жыл бұрын
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@stevemorris7396 3 жыл бұрын
I just contacted Lippert and they agreed it could be switched with AW32 fluid. They said you have to do a complete flush of all lines else there will be contamination and system failure could happen.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you contacted them. We spoke directly with lippert and our manufacturer before making this video. (We would always recommend people to contact manufacturers before doing any project on their rig.) It has been about a year since replacing all fluid, we have had no issues.
@raidermike4880 2 жыл бұрын
How did you flush all the lines?
@darrenklein8358 3 жыл бұрын
What type of WD-40 did you use to spray the jacks with? Great video!
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Just plan old WD-40 works well. Thanks for watching.
@darrenklein8358 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andrewwolf832 3 жыл бұрын
Was told never to use a lubricant on the cylinders, will collect dust and damage seals….
@andrewwolf832 3 жыл бұрын
Soap and water to clean them…
@deanh7190 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewwolf832 True but also OK with HWH to spray on WD-40 after exposure to salt air or long term deployment.
@geo3260 2 жыл бұрын
do you have to drain all the lines or just the tank to do this?
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
Pull in all the hydraulics (slides and legs) that will pull all the fluid into the tank. Then empty the tank and refill with new fluid.
@SeanDIY 3 жыл бұрын
They use ATF for a reason. Recommend using it. You are supposed to change it every 2 years.
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Yes ATF is from the factory, as it thins you take some out and add some in. We were having issues with popping and sagging and even after replacing with ATF it wasn't enough. Lippert as well as, our manufacture recommended this exact hydraulic fluid. We always recommend that everyone contact their manufacturer and use what they recommend. Either way, this is a HOW to video... even if you replace with ATF it's the exact same concept. Happy Trails!
@JirafaBo Жыл бұрын
I see you have a Vilano as well. I have a 2018 and it's as junky as every other rv brand. Super disappointing since the charge a premium. Leaky slides, every screw rattles out, etc etc.
@johnchartrand5910 3 жыл бұрын
Can't use hydraulic fluid in cool or cold weather, even with transmission fluid the pump works very hard in cold weather
@LonghaulLifesavers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. We haven't ever had an issue and we have lived in Negative degree weather with the RV.
@bobhappel4168 2 жыл бұрын
Never use WD on the shafts, only silicone.
@lb7wade518 Жыл бұрын
What year is your rig!
@LonghaulLifesavers Жыл бұрын
It is a 2017
@rockstrsameer17 4 жыл бұрын
Second like
@raidermike4880 2 жыл бұрын
Did the popping and sagging go away after doing this?
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it did…eventually you will have to do it again when the viscosity wears out but this does fix that problem
@rockstrsameer17 4 жыл бұрын
Bro second
@amaliajoy8514 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Jerryshipping12 4 жыл бұрын
Her tongue got wrapped around her eye teeth and she couldn’t see a word she was trying to say... lol
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
it happens 😂
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
Hey FYI, there is a channel called "Jonnie's Journey" they do a Live show every Tuesday night starting at 11pm est. We are going to be guests on their show on Aug 18th. If you are interested :) Also, if you would like, send me an email @longhaullifesavers@gmail.com with your mailing address, I want to send y'all a sticker. If you want 🤗!
@Jerryshipping12 4 жыл бұрын
Longhaul Lifesavers that’s AWSOME! We will check it out! And we would love a sticker.... sadly we don’t have any of our own to send back..
@LonghaulLifesavers 4 жыл бұрын
That’s okay, if you ever get stickers we will want one🤗! You have been super supportive and we’d love to thank you for your support!
@JamesBond-uj8mz 2 жыл бұрын
This is dangerously stupid miss information. A different slide out manufacturer specify different oil for their unit. Some take automatic transmission fluid, Some take straight hydraulic fluid and son take a proprietary fluid. But to state that automatic transmission fluid is too thin is ridiculous if the unit was designed to operate on that fluid. Not only does automatic transmission fluid not break down but it breaks down much less than hydraulic fluid. Automatic transmission fluid is designed to work and heat and pressure's way way beyond that of a hydraulic pump. This gentleman is grossly miss in formed and guiding people down the wrong path. Call your manufacture and find out what oil they specify don't just grab any fluid that some novice tells you to use. Bad boy bad video LOL
@LonghaulLifesavers 2 жыл бұрын
This is what the Lippert manufacture advised us to use on the level up system which is stated in the video. As the majority of rv manufactures use Lippert hydraulic systems for their jacks and slides it is safe to assume that this will work for the majority of people. This was also recommended by our manufacturer as this is what they use of the hydraulics are causing issues. Feel free to make your own video on how to “properly” perform this task, if this one is not up to your standards. Thanks for watching!
@deanh7190 2 жыл бұрын
@@LonghaulLifesavers What did you expect British agent 007 to say about a made in America🇺🇸 product?🤔😉🤣
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