RWS Tarot Clones | Reviewing and Decluttering my Collection

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00:00 Intro
00:27 Thoughts on RWS (and my decks)
06:14 My definition of an RWS clone
07:55 Modern Witch Tarot
12:19 Morgan Greer in a Tin
14:30 Crystal Unicorn Tarot
17:22 Smithtiny Tarot
18:42 Happy Tarot
21:55 Tarot of the Magical Forest
24:06 Tarot de Marseille Waite
25:54 Ganeshian Village Tarot and Little Buddha Tarot
31:06 Final Tally and Thoughts
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Crystal Unicorn Tarot: www.etsy.com/listing/59211715...
Smithtiny Tarot: www.etsy.com/listing/10226210...
Happy Tarot: amzn.to/3ySLe3e
Tarot of a Magical Forest: amzn.to/3CNRagv
Tarot de Marseille Waite: amzn.to/3g4RNIN
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Little Buddha Tarot: push-kitty.com/products/ols/p...
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@carole5648 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see an "in-a-tin" comparison, I wish more mini decks came in a tin, they are so practical.

@grumpyschnauzer 2 жыл бұрын

Agree but in tins borderless is even better.

@BetweenSunAndMoon 2 жыл бұрын

Tins are the best!

@Beanmachine91 Жыл бұрын

small cards are great for a game of pagat which is like freecell solitaire

@thrivingselfcarerenee 2 жыл бұрын

The Happy Tarot is the deck that I've worked with almost exclusively for the past 18 months, through the "plague." It gives me the messages I need to hear, but in a "bedside manner" that has been so supportive through this difficult time. I've got the original version and the new borderless version. I love them both.

@CandySoulAndSoil 2 жыл бұрын

This is painful …. I can’t do declutter videos it hurts my soul 😂 the magical forest was my favourite did you hear me yelling “noooooooooo!!!!!!” From the other side of the Atlantic 😂❤️

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Aw Sorry for the pain LOL

@oldsoulmermaid1543 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh 😱….I’m glad you’re keeping the Morgan Greer! A classic goodie for sure!

@LauraBronson 2 жыл бұрын

This is a really interesting video. In my personal opinion, a "RWS clone" is any colour variation of the original Pamela Colman Smith artwork (for example: the Centennial, the Radiant, the Reflective, the Universal, the yellow box, the "Dirty Pam", the Gold & Black edition, etc...). Basically for me, a clone is a facsimile or a photo-copy of the original RWS, because in science a clone is an exact genetic replica of the original, with 100% the same DNA. So every other deck that is similar or closely follows the RWS artwork, but is not using the original linework by Pixie, would be a "RWS inspired" deck (for example: the Modern Witch, the Morgan Greer, This Might Hurt, Crystal Unicorn, the Little Buddha, etc).

@LunarLatina 2 жыл бұрын

Man i love the modern witch and I’ve had it for ages but I still despise that cardstock. I’m not even snobby about cardstock but it’s so hard to shuffle 😭 And i JUST bought the Morgan Greer yesterday so I might be biased, but don’t let it go! Maybe make a deep dive video with it? (She asked selfishly 😂)

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Keeping Morgan Greer for now LOL And I hearrr you on Modern Witch cardstock!!

@BlackThorndRose 2 жыл бұрын

My friend got the Crystal Unicorn Tarot coloring book for me, she knows I’m a sucker for Unicorns!🦄 It was a really interesting experience. I didn’t have the intention to bond with the deck when I started, just using it for some de-stressing and what not. But what was really interesting was that my inner child came out, and I also remembered things that I had long forgotten, and I was able to take a further glimpse into my childhood. So I would actually recommend it!

@yiotanikolopoulou6247 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, when I saw the Happy Tarot in that list I felt like I was watching a thriller and felt so relieved when it stayed in your collection. Don't even know why, I mean it's not mine😅 However, that is, hands down my favorite RWS clone

@threeofcats5803 2 жыл бұрын

Same! I was actually a little nervous!

@emmamoon444 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh I am so glad you featured the Tarot de Marseille Waite because I’ve never heard of it until now, and it’s going to make studying & using a “Marseille” deck so much easier!

@sleepycalico 2 жыл бұрын

Happy smiles -- I'm not the only one who feels chilly towards the original RWS art. Thank GOODNESS, too, because that was what drove me into the glorious world of tarot art that makes my heart sing. Thanks for your reflections on the most RWS portion of your collection, showing how some decks repeat, and other decks rhyme.

@andreasplosky8516 2 жыл бұрын

I am not a tarotist, but I collect them for the art, and I am interested in the history and symbolism. I'd like to say that you are a very entertaining and fun, easy talker. I love watching your videos.

@MichelleMontemayor 2 жыл бұрын

The clone I love to work with is the Moon Baby Tarot. It is a fairly recent release based on the 70’s Hoi Polloi Tarot. I absolutely love it! I don’t really know why, it’s the only pretty true clone I feel this way for. The cards are a bit zoomed in, the backgrounds are a bit simpler, and the skin color is darker so they are more brown-skinned. I dig it. The backs a gorgeous and it has a pale pink edge. It is so special.

@FindingMyMuse 2 жыл бұрын

😍😍 I’d love to know how to play solitaire with a tarot deck! 🤗🤗🤗 Btw, same about the Magical Forest tarot. 🤙🤙

@sothisisjoy Жыл бұрын

Yes! Pls show me how to play solitaire!!🙏

@weststartarot-Liz 2 жыл бұрын

To me a RWS clone has to be really true to Pixie’s art like maybe the Albano Waite or the Golden Rider or Radiant Wise Spirit. The others you showed I would call RWS “inspired” . So interesting to see how we each categorize these things.

@annelyle5474 2 жыл бұрын

There's definitely a spectrum from "could have been traced from Pixie's art" through "redrawn in all the same poses" to "essentially the same symbolism but reimagined with elephants/unicorns/porntaches/whatever" 😀

@SunsetBoughTarot 2 жыл бұрын

I define a “clone” the same way you do….not Pixie’s actual art and maybe different characters but with the exact same scenes, poses, symbolism etc. From the beginning, Pixie’s art has been republished with different colorations and to me those are all Smith-Waite decks and not Smith-Waite “clones” because it’s still the original Smith art, so I don’t consider a mere recoloration of the RWS to be a “clone” (otherwise any RWS deck that’s not the Pam A would be a clone!) So the SmithTiny or the Crystal Unicorn are clones in my opinion. The Morgan Greer on the other hand is RWS inspired but not a clone, I feel, because the zoomed in nature of the images means they really aren’t the same scenes or poses in most of the cards-for example, lots of characters that are facing straight on in the RWS are in profile in the Morgan Greer or vice versa, you can’t see who’s seated or who’s standing, etc. So not a clone. Idk, that’s just how I think about it 🤷‍♀️😆

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to define, right?!?! LOL

@tigerlybalm 2 жыл бұрын

Would you ever consider doing a THIS or THAT where your This Might Hurt deck faces off against the Modern Witch deck? 17:15 The idea only came to me when you described the MW as "RWS, really really diverse" which seems like it would fit a similar category to the TMH, even if TMH isn't a RWS clone. I don't mean to sound like you should further declutter your collection at all! I'm just curious/thought I'd put it out there (and sometimes both decks in a THIS or THAT situation remain in your collection 💜)

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

I could see those two going head to head at some point since I do tend to reach for TMH over MW in general..... but yeah they're very much in a similar niche!

@LunarLatina 2 жыл бұрын

Ohh would love to see this!

@nemiatarot497 11 ай бұрын

The Morgan-Greer is one of my favourites, I love its warmth and serenity. I wouldn't call it a clone. The artist obviously based his art on the RWS scenes but interpreted them in his own style. I don't like the word clone. Artists don't produce clones. They're influenced by other artists but they don't simply copy and paste.

@theallisoncompendium 2 жыл бұрын

I was minor panicking when you started going through the Crystal Unicorn deck 🤣 I have such a weird relationship with Morgan Greer. I love the vibe and illustrations theoretically, but I kind of hate reading with it. The super up close perspective is just to much for some reason. But I keep trying… I love hearing how people feel about a deck after working with it for a while, like more of a review rather than a walk through. If you do decide to do more videos specifically about that, I’m totally here for it 😊

@rocks317 2 жыл бұрын

I just love you so much! Thank you for sharing your time and talent with us xoxo

@sothisisjoy Жыл бұрын

Omg, i would have taken a white jelly roll pen to those eyeballs (on the Smith Tiny deck) so quickly!!

@DawnMichelleTarot 2 жыл бұрын

This was so fun! I think I probably need to do this too lol. Thank you for sharing with us! ❤️

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Please do!

@JPeeee 2 жыл бұрын

Theres a Before and After Tarot decks too. Inspired on the RWS.

@Thatcrazyteaparty 2 жыл бұрын

Loved your video 😍 my fav is Modern Witch, Blooming Cat & the unicorns. Honorable mention I know it’s not clone but I put in this category the Rainbow Heart Tarot 🥳

@RoyPetrie 2 жыл бұрын

I love your happy bags 🥰

@TarotwithRuby 2 жыл бұрын

oooh loved this video! another clone that i have is the Friends Tarot. it's the same scenes, with similar stances etc., but set in the friends set and with the friends characters.

@mamacitachula96 2 жыл бұрын

I love Universal Waite. I wasn't into the Radiant that much, but I will keep it to make it to a study deck. I do have the Morgan Greer, MW, and the Robin Wood :)

@melissagerber7231 2 жыл бұрын

Crystal Unicorn was my second indie deck. I dont mind the RWS system.

@marylebone4465 Жыл бұрын

1:51 I am a beginner, still waiting for my tarot order to arrive. For me I appreciate and want to learn from the Rider Waite- Smith than the other new ones.

@larkeldarian 2 жыл бұрын

I think the morgan greer has got a lot of rider smith stuff, but it has a marceiles flavour to it too..lol

@jhoanachavezb 2 жыл бұрын

The little Buddha is my dream deck

@Ccat398 2 жыл бұрын

I love watching your videos ! Your logical and direct!! Make very constructive comments I think ! Thank you

@mermaidrisingtarot 2 жыл бұрын

Aw that tiny tarot reminds me of all the playmobile people I bought my kids for toys. The Little Budda is adorable. The Happy tarot is super cute, like if tarot was a candy land video game. Hard to say what is a RWS clone vs RWS based system. I think that terminology has been a bit confusing for myself and others. I rehomed my unicorn tarot, I realized I bought it because of the joy it brought others. I'm thinking of getting the way of the panda because I've always loved pandas, it's more me! Enjoyed the sneak peaks.

@pamelabatchelor9204 2 жыл бұрын

There’s a time for Little Buddha and a time for Ganesha Village. I’d like to see you use each one separately with Ganesha Oracle.

@TempestGetchell 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Lisa, you might have already noticed, BUT if you didn't. you put the modern witch tarot back and some of the cards were put back facing the opposite direction. Just thought i'd mention incase you haven't used it and you might like go to shuffle for clients or something and then bam gotta reset the whole thing lol

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Oh THANK YOU.

@cheapwitch 2 жыл бұрын

I only have the Modern Witch when it comes to clones because I also don't really get on with the imagery of the trad RWS. But I love that one so much so it really makes me feel like I'll never need another one with the same imagery.

@MichelleMontemayor 2 жыл бұрын

I would love updates on the decks you unbox. Maybe during a live? That way less work post filming. I am super chatty this morning 😅😝

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Hehehe :) Good to know!! Still mulling but in the meantime I'm working those updates into other videos... for example, I've added a category to my Oct Antihaul to share decks I'm not keeping!

@LouValcourt 2 жыл бұрын

That Reflective Tarot 😍!

@luciev.7844 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah creepy black eyes!! Happy Canadian Thanksgiving Lisa&Peggy! 🍁🦃 🥧

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

Thank youuuu!!!

@kaede_jing 2 жыл бұрын

I only have 3 RWS or RWS clone decks, which are centennial, modern witch tarot, and morgan greer in tin!!! They are all in your video!!! I love them. The other decks that I own are not following RWS system.

@Craftistemv 8 күн бұрын

I believe I once saw a rendition of a RWS based tarot deck in which the point of view of the imagery was shown. The moon card was a card with a hand dipping in the water I believe, the tower card in the POV of the people falling down... Do you have any idea about which deck I am talking about? It might not be RWS but I think it was. Did I see this here on your channel?

@Carocri31 2 жыл бұрын

I used to hate RWS too. I didn't like the yellows and some weird lines in the drawings. I bought the AGM E Waite premium pocket edition and I start changing my mind. So I got the Centennial too because of the colors but I never use that one. Before that I use the Aquarian and the Morgan Greer two amazing kind of clones because I love their art. The Morgan Greer devil and Death I adore them. I start reading with this one I even have dreams with some cards. But is a good system to have in mind if you don't like numbers enough for using more TdM.

@RobynsReflections 2 жыл бұрын

I always say that the ones with 70 or more cards with matching scenes are clones. The others I’ve been calling RWS inspired. Whatever that means lol. My favorite is hands down, the Melanated Classic Tarot 💜. Runner up is this awesome tea stained borderless version printed on cardboard that I got off Etsy. I don’t even know if it has a name but I love it. 😃

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

That's a great way to look at it!

@Ascillian369 2 жыл бұрын

I am also someone who doesn't really click with the RWS, and so a lot of decks that draw heavily from it (whether they are a true clone or not) are very iffy for me as well. And yet, my very first deck (which I still adore) is the Cosmic tarot, and I feel it's very clonish (though a few people have said they don't consider it a clone). I think I agree with you, that a clone is one where the scene is instantly recognizable as the same scene...almost like if you blocked it out in sketch form you would have the same card...just the details are changed. But once you start moving people into different positions or changing the setting around the figures, it's not really a clone anymore. I will definitely have to keep an eye out for if you decide to rehome the Little Buddha tarot, I still think a part of me regrets not backing that one (and as cute as the Happy tarot is, it's a bit too candy forward for me lol I'm just not a candy person, though the figures on it are super cute!)

@dragorsi 2 жыл бұрын

Tarot of the Magical Forest is just so darn cute. Every time I see it I wanna go and pick it up, but I still haven't X;D

@tarafarmer6242 2 жыл бұрын

Same!

@toadstooltarot 2 жыл бұрын

I must have more than a dozen of what I call Rider Waite Smith 'versions' in various colors and textures. But, I can only think of one clone that I have which is the Groovy Waite. Some of the ones you mentioned seem like 'demi-clones' or 'semi-clones'. I do have the Moon Baby Tarot, but am not sure if I consider it a clone. I've been tempted by the Morgan Greer a number of times but just can't get into the color palette. The yellows are more like ochre and the reds are like burgundy and I just can't connect with that. I also know what you mean about having beautiful decks that you love the look of, but just never seem to reach for them. I'm wondering if my Giuliano Costa decks (Mystical, Pre-Raphaelite, and now Jack-O-Lantern) are considered clones. I didn't reach for any of those for a long time, but with the recent release of the Jack-O-Lantern, I'm finding a new love for the Pre-Raphaelite and using it all over again).

@nicolemioniserni5133 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this video!😍 I was just curious: where can I find Dustin talking about the Tarot of the Magical Forest? I couldn’t find it in his channel.

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

It was in one of our Three Fat Readers episodes! :) Here's a link the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpaEfqSV1JfWp3U.html

@nicolemioniserni5133 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lisa_Papez Thank you so much!! 😍

@elkins4406 2 жыл бұрын

For whatever it's worth, I store my (much loved!) Morgan Greer deck in a different drawer than my RWS Clones. Instead, I keep it one drawer down, with my "Traditional RWS-Style" decks, many of which are admittedly 'almost-but-not-quite-RWS-clones.' Still, there are just enough differences for me not to consider it a clone. I do count Modern Witch as a clone, though. So I guess my personal dividing line lies somewhere between those two decks. It's also possibly significant that the Morgan-Greer was one of the like six or seven decks I'd ever even heard of when I first acquired a copy of it in the '80s. So possibly the differences seem more pronounced to me than they really are, just because when I first familiarized myself with it, I was aware of so few options. ETA: As someone who tends to find a *lot* of things with the "cute" aesthetic unbearably creepy, it's somehow a bit of a relief to me to learn that even you aren't immune to the creep factor of cutesy things, even if you do draw the line in a different place than I do! Yeah, those big black eyes totally give me the willies, too.

@Amyduckie 2 жыл бұрын

I think if most of the cards are like the RWS, then you can consider it a clone. I've only got the one clone, the Happy Tarot and I love it, even if I don't use it much.

@soulfullivingwithheather 2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting to buy the Modern Witch in the hopes they'll reprint it. I generally don't pull my RWS out or the clones for that matter, so that's another reason I haven't bought it. I absolutely love the readings I get from the Morgan Greer, though not necessarily drawn to the art. I learned tarot using the Robin Wood, and it was my only deck for years. Came to the MG a few years ago. I wish that I was more drawn to my This My Hurt tarot. Really enjoyed this video. Blessings to you and Peggy. 💫💜💫

@pamelabatchelor9204 2 жыл бұрын

Please keep me in mind for your Little Buddha if the day ever comes.

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

It found a new home before this video came out I'm afraid! Sometimes it goes that way!

@MsPrettyVermin 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t see those that RWS that are redraw by artists fully as clones, they are RWS inspired adjacent. The only clones to me in this is Reflective should go and I have a magpie brain. I only read the RWS once or study with. I will always force myself to use a deck before I declutter, if I last the entire week they stay if they don’t and I find it a struggle to read with they go.

@BetweenSunAndMoon 2 жыл бұрын

I just can't get along with the RWS Tarot. I've never liked the artwork, and seeing it everywhere definitely didn't help. I bought the Centennial tin version hoping it would show me what I was missing, but I hardly ever used it and eventually put it in my closet along with my other neglected decks. I can't even look at most clones, such as the Modern Witch, without having a visceral "No!" reaction. The only clones I have are the Happy Tarot and the Morgan-Greer Tarot because the former is adorable and the people in the latter look much friendlier than in the original. Sorry for the rant, but sometimes it seems like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't like this deck.

@pamelabatchelor9204 2 жыл бұрын

The Tarot of the Magical Forest is full of distinct personalities and companions. The Happy Tarot is nice and cute but I challenge you to identify any specific character/personality you love. Keep both duh

@dianavega9291 2 жыл бұрын

The Smithiny tarot reminds me of video game characters.

@paperstorycraft 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a fan of the classic RWS either. I’m learning with the tarot of the moon garden.

@Blackoutgrl 2 жыл бұрын

Morgan greer is a true clone its just zoomed in..

@3ofcupseclectictarotdaniel796 2 жыл бұрын

You said "When I want to play a little solitaire game with tarot " do share please are you truly playing a solitaire game? Or just referring to playing around with your cards. Alone. ( sorry the fraze caught my attention)

@Lisa_Papez 2 жыл бұрын

YES! :) I've been playing this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9OJndJ3ntSpnKc.html And I also sometimes play this one (more involved): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/brlxZayitbjNp3k.html

@3ofcupseclectictarotdaniel796 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lisa_Papez thank you I found your queens of fate video a long while back and enjoyed it very much but it takes a lot of space thanks for the extra short idea aswell. Love it!

@MichelleMontemayor 2 жыл бұрын

I love the Ganeshian Village tarot so much. The shipping is just killing me though. I’ve tried several times to purchase and the cost just stops me. I need to see if any stores will purchase it so I can purchase from them. I have the oracle as well. I use it mostly like altar cards. I work with the energies for a very long time.

@shannonkilpatrick6054 2 жыл бұрын

Same! I love the deck, but the shipping... sheesh!

@Beanmachine91 Жыл бұрын

i only use my tarot cards for games lol

@pawstalk Жыл бұрын

Great decks but I would disagree with your definition of ‘clone’. A clone to me is a recolored version of JUST the RWS line work. IE; Pam’s line work, ie; Pam A, B, C or D. Nothing else. All of the others I consider Rider Waite Smith Inspired. Some, indeed, like the Universal Tarot, are very close, but if you look at the definition of clone, it means to copy ‘exactly.’ Now, by that definition, people could get picky and say that Pam B and C are not very good copies, but the differences are so nominal that only dweebs like me see the difference. And just one more example: anyone who uses Photoshop clone tool understands that it is cloning the exact image, not just a representation. It’s just not the definition of ‘clone’. And, while I love things like the Modern Witch and such, I don’t consider decks like that clones. The images are nicely inspired so one can read them nearly the same, but there are enough differences between the original line work and some of the different images added to the cards that may change the meaning. This is why in my classes I have people learn on an actual RWS clone because if you learn on that, you can read so many other RWS INSPIRED decks on the market. JMHO, respectfully. But I’m a tarot and language dweeb, so there’s that. ;) Enjoyed your video. Thanks. :)

@Umurhan999 2 жыл бұрын

Girl you are listing an emotional connection for almost all these decks. When hoarding people list a connection for all the stuff they don't want to let go. My recommendation for decluttering is you just gotta break up with some of these. Yeah, break up. If you want to do decluttering instead of a deck tour, yoy may want to break your heart.