Heh, back in my day, we used the old school approach to discharge our batteries. Your average 12V incandescent automobile parking light bulb pulls about 1 1/2 Amps. We used to daisy-chain discharge rigs with 16 bulbs together to pull a 24 amp load against our batteries. Aside from draining the battery, it also had the advantage of giving us a visual indicator of how much charge was left after a run. The technology may change, but the innovation never dies. 😉
@BOBBEATS5043 жыл бұрын
real
@Jut773 жыл бұрын
Lol I did this
@n10cities3 жыл бұрын
Been there done that! Very effective! Some folks would use a sealed beam headlamp (in old cars) that did a pretty good job.
@TrevorCazes3 жыл бұрын
thats what i did!
@josephgrenier90113 жыл бұрын
@@TrevorCazes hey man my calls f****** taking s*** on me call me back and he called me to know for you
@Vladle2099 Жыл бұрын
I’m running 10 year old equipment on some of my buggies and it’s fine for practice. I have newer stuff and I’m not there yet where it makes a huge difference. The older stuff is plenty for my skill level.
@jakelowang4132 Жыл бұрын
I do some Drift RC and i looking at video for adjusting my timming. I got the progbox 6 in 1 Skyrc and when i do the motor timming test it give me 27 degree. I run 27 boost changed the start rpm from 15k to 12.5k ad turbo his at 37 degrees and end at 42.5k. It get warm but seems to be fine, i try 30 boost and 40 turbo with same rpm and the motor get hot but still under 100 degree. I also change the pinion gear, from a 22T to a 20T, i go to the nearby track, one guy told me they run 19T, i had trouble follwing them at 22T but now at 20 ica follow them and they have a plastic track imported from Japan. They have the biggest track in Canada about 30 min, my friends and i do some on concrete. Concrete is harder is more abrasive
@Spdyjay0013 жыл бұрын
I quit racing back in the day right at the cusp of Li-Po and brushless motors. The promise back then was "Charge and go". No turning motors, dialing brush springs and brushes, matching battery cells, discharging individual cells, dyno testing batches of 27T stock motors looking for a hot armature, etc. Looks like not much has changed, and I still need another duffle bag of charging/discharging and motor tuning equipment to stay competitive.
@tonyvtc3 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reminder on these tips. It’s been over ten years since I race now 2022 I’m back into touring on road.
@rootsrock1n4 жыл бұрын
I raced about 20 years ago. Trinity has always been an excellent product. Glad to see they are still great!
@artieaudio775 жыл бұрын
Love that old school flow of goodies behide. Haha the memories of rc racing in the early 90's
@PursuitofPerfectionA7 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I started breaking down my cars after every race weekend and clean them real good and also refill my shock oil and it was a night and day difference.. cars drove great and consistent!! Thank Ryan!!
@RyanHarrisRC7 жыл бұрын
PursuitofPerfectionA That's awesome man! Glad you got your cars super dialed now!
@Cannabis_Connoisseur2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanHarrisRC you should do an update to this. It's got a ton of views and there's not a ton of other videos with this much good info so dense. Be nice to see so new tips 4years later.
@hawkeyelikesbikes6 жыл бұрын
Heads-up: You have your resistors wired up in parallel, not series. Otherwise, great video and thanks for the input. Coming into this after 16 years away - propulsion technology has completely changed!
@driverman86152 жыл бұрын
:) back after 30 years I am a dinosaur.
@rocpile Жыл бұрын
Indeed, that bank of resistors is wired in parallel
@mathewavr80123 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all the tips and tricks your giving in all of your videos. I just got into the rc carpet buggy thing and was having trouble making one of the jumps at my local track. I had to turn the timing all the way up on my motor and went from a 28 to 30t pinion and started making the jump now. I'm going to have to look into some better batteries though as I'm only running a 100c pack. Very informative. Thanks for the help
@gregcano4172 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan I like that charger you have I just got a spectrum charger but I’m totally digging the one you have
@leeroyexcavator91492 жыл бұрын
Good tips. Unfortunately there are no off-road tracks anywhere close to where I live. We only have a couple oval tracks now which is what we race..The only off road track that was near by lost it's building lease about 2 yrs ago! Anyway power still matters alot when limited by class rules.
@craigjones28544 жыл бұрын
Iv seen the battery thing done. But there is one thing it does not last. The IR is at its lowest when the batter is hot. Then during the charging process it will self cool down. Then the IR comes back up. Iv done all kinds of test over and over again. The best thing is to find some good batteries buy a few. And use those for your main packs. Shorty packs will always have high IR because of the size and design of the cells. Getting HV cells are better in the IR numbers. They are a better grade of cells. You don't have to over charge them.
@roosterreagan84696 жыл бұрын
u might add "C" ratings to your battery overview, about how C rating is discharge rate (but C is also used in reference to charging, its easy, discharge is like 30 or 60 or 110 C and charge rate C's are like 1C or 2C, as recommended by manufacturer) and thats where your "punch" comes from(i.e. 100 C>80 C), i know some guys over look it and get a 30 C battery and charge the crap out of it thinking that's the trick. just a thought, not trying to step on anyones toes or be a know it all, vids are great, i'm subbed, keep it up!
@williammitchell95605 жыл бұрын
Another Great video for a guys who is switching from oval to off road!
@juniorvalentine88376 жыл бұрын
the more of your videos i watch, the more of your videos i want to watch. thanks for making them
@scottylacombe7648 Жыл бұрын
Love the content, tips and trick’s you are sharing. Really appreciate the knowledge shared. Keep up the great work!
@kurtwenger58836 жыл бұрын
I would advise changing pinions first, not timing. There is usually a timing that is the best balance of RPM and Torque (around 35-50 degrees usually) and I don't vary it.
@AnthonyM16 жыл бұрын
But 35-50 is a variable
@TheRCNetwork5 жыл бұрын
The Coach has spoke
@pjburcham59383 жыл бұрын
Loving that jacc's civic on the shelf.... Would love to have 1 myself as I'm a Honda guy lol
@Chris-zc7my7 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, I do the regenerative charge on my lipo with the icharger 406 duo and the difference it makes is ridiculous !!!!! But at a risk to, keep lipo in safe sack and out the way of other people.
@magicalminis5976 жыл бұрын
So interesting to see battery conditioning ideas of 25+ years ago for NiCd and NiMh batteries being used on todays LiPo packs. When LiPo batteries first came out the marketing was battery conditioning was a technique of the past.
@KimmyR35 жыл бұрын
lol yeah. my thoughts exactly when people started doing these things about 2 years ago on my local track.
@gabrielgarcia85263 жыл бұрын
Hello Ryan, Congratulations for your video. I love it. I'm frensh and here it's really difficult to have explanation about 1/10 TT or even more in general. Everytime I watch a video of you I learn something great 👍. I don't find a video about setting of 4wd chassis. Per example the drop of 1/10 TT..???. OK if you have a little time I would be really happy that you explain how I can setting the droop. Have a good day Gabriel
@kevinbates35753 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the knowledge and tips! Been tinkering with RC for a long time but i am getting more serious about racing at the track now. I have older associated cars B44.2 with a 7.5T system , and a T3 with a 10.5T system. Might be upgrading soon if i keep at it.
@jbsimons40992 жыл бұрын
I have a 7t motor I my eb48
@BenFreedmanRacing4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome information, I had no idea you could discharge faster with this method
@FeedThatAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Yes very awesome video thanks a lot; I wasn't sure of all these battery tricks some people are using.
@rcracer32352 жыл бұрын
Good video Ryan thanks for the tips
@Corrie20785 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan. Question, do you have a video that explains the best way to choose and set gearing? I’m new to electric RC and still watch your videos.
@RTmadnesstoo6 жыл бұрын
Great tips ! I wish I could drive good enough to take advantage of your ideas.
@stumason70036 жыл бұрын
My tips Get a current gen. Motor Get a silicon graphene battery Charge battery at 2 amps above 3C Rebuild shocks between each race day Make sure your car is straight and not bent Alignment Get a body that’s right for you Good tires Get wide selection of springs Good radio Good tools And finally... DRIVE THE GOD DANG CAR GOOD!!
@TheRatchet42346 жыл бұрын
Lol get a motor that works good on your track that people have success with.
@gsf28175 жыл бұрын
Add grp tires
@MX-CO3 ай бұрын
Why Rebuild the shocks every time?
@MX-CO3 ай бұрын
The biggest difference I've noticed as a newbie is tires, I was shocked how big of a difference slicks made, I put on a set of Smoothie 2 silvers and they stick to the track like velcro
@tonyvtc3 Жыл бұрын
I use to charge my 4800 lipos batteries @ 10 too 15 amp, I’m old school, I use turbo 35 by competition electronics they have around 30, 35 amp charge and discharge.
@evhexrc17655 жыл бұрын
Lol I watched this video the day you put it out... here I am again. Your interview video you put out a bit earlier reminded me of it.
@Skippy813Net7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan with the resistor bank i think your meant to wire it in parallel ?
@KimmyR35 жыл бұрын
yep.
@NathanStorer-RC6 жыл бұрын
I like your videos as they give legit tips. You've earned a new subscriber :)
@jimleconte19695 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan I watch a lot of your videos and they are very helpful. thank you and keep making them
@crazykoolrn6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, very informational. Your explanations are so down to earth. Are you able to make a video explaining how to make a discharge bank and selecting an appropriate charger for different racing needs? Thank you so much.
@erichappy7606 жыл бұрын
Great information thank you! Could you go into more depth on how to build the discharge bank?
@sebtarta6 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! One thing though, you said that the resistor bank is wired in series, yet they are in parallel in your video. 9:16
@kameroncowles35317 жыл бұрын
Please make more videos I really enjoy them and look forward to seeing them👍🏼
@RyanHarrisRC7 жыл бұрын
Trying to man! I'm working on a few to get out soon!
@gorillabrakes6 жыл бұрын
Ryan can you answer this one How would you set 7.5T and 10.5T motors? What's a good starting point for current draw?
@robbieracer32947 жыл бұрын
charging and discharging at those amps is a good way of causing a lipo fire. I wish all tracks would implement the charging sacks. I'd be pissed if my shit went up because of the guy pitted next to me was cooking his lipos because he thought he was suppose to. Another reason I like mod besides of the speed, charge at no more than 2c, throw in your battery, set your timing on the endbell to about 20 degrees, maybe put in a little turbo in the esc..done.
@vtecgoesbwah7 жыл бұрын
I know your a fellow floridan, just wanted to check in and see how you faired from Irma. Hope all is well brother.
@RyanHarrisRC7 жыл бұрын
Squanto thanks for checking in! All is well on our end. Hope all is well on yours 👍
@tonyvtc3 Жыл бұрын
Some RC clubs will temp the batteries before a race. I remember guy’s charging their lipos in a lipo bag but the battery was wrapped in a heating pad then they would put that battery that over 100 degrees in front of the AC in their trailer to cool it down to race rules temp lol.
@1c1r1x5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, how about making a video on how to achieve the proper gearing.. Also, how to figure this out in determining what is proper for the track/ driving style etc.. Thanks Chris
@mdemers767 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan... I can't be sure without getting a closer look at the polarity, but are you SURE that resistor bank is assembled in series? Because it sure looks like it's put together in parallel.
@stavart136 жыл бұрын
Top video mate! You should open up an RC University, Great teacher!
@markreed98755 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you would answer a question about discharging/dumping your batteries. When u discharge them at the max amp discharge, what do you bring the battery down too? I’ve recently started this and I was told 3.22 by a racer at my local hobby store. Do u mind sharing your opinion and what they should be brought down to. Thank you, great video btw.
@Pops1804 жыл бұрын
Instead of discharging your batteries quickly, just warm them up with a hairdryer (not a heat gun) this will give you the lower internal resistance that you want while not unnecessarily cycling your battery
@holc1236 жыл бұрын
Regarding building shocks.. I like what Cav does... place the spring cups on the shaft before you start the bleed process. There is no reason to bleed the shafts all the way up to the bodies when they'll never go that far given the spring cups act like a limiter given they add thickness between the shock body and the plastic eyelets when installed. Also, why 5-6 amp draw for motors? Where did those numbers originate? Is there a scientific reasoning for that amount of amp draw? Why noy 3.5-4.5 amp draw which is more efficient? ...and BTW, great video production, subscribed.
@alvisgineika93066 жыл бұрын
For Batteries Try CS-Electronic the 7600 2S2P is good but depends what you use it for Regards
@corydixon653 жыл бұрын
Isnt there a better way to put heat into a battery than charging/discharging at extremely high amps? Like some sort of warmer or blanket or heat gun?
@tonyellis477310 ай бұрын
Hey I'm new to rc. Always been a fan of them just never had access. Now I'm older, and have the money I'm doing my rc ar thing at 37 years old. Lol. What I'd like too kno is how you know wat the lipo battery rating is measured on "T" motors versus 2s-8s rated motors. Idk why but I've looked and can't find any info on turn motors as far as lipo cells they are rated for!? Thanks for the awesome vids and all ur help with my rc hobby!😅
@MX-CO5 ай бұрын
There is an awesome off road track in Reno Nevada called whip it Raceway
@sangamonriverrats67696 жыл бұрын
Great Video .... i run at a huge facility in central illinois, they have aot of great gear, but no one knows anything, it's like walking into a walmart for R/C ... i've been in R/C cars for most of my adult life and i'm 52. i have never been in a place that is so lacking in knowledge about what they are selling. it's sad really.
@adamintheoutdoors21194 жыл бұрын
DozR sounds a lot like my local hobby town USA
@anthonysilva50154 жыл бұрын
I know it's an old video, but I am old too... at least getting there. For those who may not want to tempt overcharging/heating a battery couldn't you just heat the battery up (safely, not an oven at 450 degrees) to help release some internal resistance?
@charlesjensen89087 жыл бұрын
Keep it up man, I look forward to you videos. I'm getting back into the hobby and I'm planning on getting to to racing on Astro turf any tips
@RyanHarrisRC7 жыл бұрын
Charles Jensen Nice! That will be a lot of fun I'm sure! I don't have too much knowledge for astro or carpet stuff since I am an outdoor guy mostly. Maybe check the setup link in my description, find your car, and look at the astro setups there 👍
@MrZimeir6 жыл бұрын
just tune both my engines and temps are great, thanks
@brianlackie50935 ай бұрын
The speed secret is turbo and boost timing.. if you're racing club races all the other club guys are using turbo and boost timing, nobody checks the light. And there's no way to get that much hp from manipulating Trinity batteries. I've tried it just ruins the battery it makes the car slower it doesn't work the only way to do it is to advance timing
@vango827 жыл бұрын
Very useful, I just bought my B64D :-)
@edwinwx2604 жыл бұрын
You still in the hobby?
@garrykennedy54844 жыл бұрын
@@edwinwx260 Not sure he's with us anymore... Hmmmmm................
@khalidtarawneh22896 жыл бұрын
Great Video, But from what i see the 1 Ohm resistors are not connected in series as u mentioned. I think thats in parallel. and please shed some light on that these are not just any top of the shelf 1 ohm resistors. They are heat sinks in a way cheers
@mariowoodsN54 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, I’m setting up a T6.1 and want to get additional improvement parts during the build, comes led you suggest the parts I should start with, the best bang for my buck? I watch all your vids👌
@houtz04256 жыл бұрын
Very helpful for spec racers. In Taiwan, spec racing is getting popular recently. I am thinking maybe I can help on translating your videos for Chinese people. All you have to do is just turn on the "Community contributions", I will make Chinese captions for you so that you can help more RC racers. Your thought?
@RyanHarrisRC6 жыл бұрын
Wow that would be awesome! I will look into getting the community contributions turned on. Thank you :)
@houtz04256 жыл бұрын
Just finished the job, but not sure how soon it will get on line. Sorry my 1st time.
@Ben_Howard6 жыл бұрын
Trinity recommended setting at 4.3a freedraw on a motolyser
@steveroxx694 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much very informative video
@alphawolf64583 жыл бұрын
This video earned a sub! Cheers to the laps ahead✌
@DesertJeff6 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanations! THANK YOU
@jamesbimmer73216 жыл бұрын
How would you set 7.5T and 10.5T motors? What's a good starting point for current draw?
@MidwestRCAdventures5 жыл бұрын
Buy new motor, kill your batteties and make weight. Great advice 👍
@RC-ty5ym4 жыл бұрын
Why should you kill your battery? There are some batteries that are rated for 40A Charge.
@bradlee52773 жыл бұрын
can you do a video explaining gearing please?
@Bobby-Love Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that cool pit box behind you? Good video.
@speedrunner83564 жыл бұрын
Good tips Ryan
@sassch17 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanx! Can U give us an instruction to build the external discharge helper for Your iCharger?
@RyanHarrisRC7 жыл бұрын
I think I can do that! I'll have to order some fresh ingredients and make a nice one for you guys 👍
@99ville3 жыл бұрын
Is 5 or 6 amps good for no prep racing with a 3.5t or 2.5t motor?
@terrya4502 жыл бұрын
The information that catches your batteries on fire lol
@phukphace59215 жыл бұрын
or if you had extra weight you could overvolt the motor & add a fan to cool your motor
@codywichman2136 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about b64 setup up. And all the cool stuff you did to hop it up
@RyanHarrisRC6 жыл бұрын
Already done my friend! Check my recent videos
@bretttuley65374 жыл бұрын
Could you keep your battery warm with a heater (pants pocket, warm rice bag, temperature controlled container) rather than through fast discharge/charge cycles?
@joeystrittmatter68904 жыл бұрын
It's like winning the Lipo Lottery
@dimagass78012 жыл бұрын
Getting back into rc since last time I was like 12 and a 1/10 rc car with no job is impossible with no money, I am wondering if there are any good upgrades for a 1/18scale rc car?
@wloop7659 Жыл бұрын
Is a capacitor bank against the rules? could help buffer when the amp draw is high
@CraigMaline5 жыл бұрын
Ryan would tell me how you have your settings on your 406 due setup to charge and discharge. Thanks for the videos.
@AndrewClarkePhotography2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, seen so many of the videos, love your work. I am wondering if you may do a :newbie to racing video. Not so much about setup, but what you need to get started, specifically around tools. I personally run 1/5th truck and dabbling in mini 1/5 this is the FG stuff. But also run electric GT serpent in the social clubs races. Interested in your thoughts, on were to put money initially to cover you for different sizes and quality. I know all categories have their specific tooling or that particular car. But I think this is more aimed at the rookie generalist. There are a lot of club guys looking for info and they definitely fall under the new to racing category and it all gets very confusing. As always, thank you again for all the work and content you put out, I have learn so much from you, 'keep it right side up' all the best.
@mattstang19837 ай бұрын
What would you discharge and charge a 850mah 2s mini b battery at to get some extra punch?
@mikeinvegas14 жыл бұрын
hi love your videos.. especially during this coronavirus time being at home. im about to start a drift build.. getting parts for mst fmx build. does all this apply to drift motors?
@chevyrc36236 жыл бұрын
Awsome tips
@fugitive0113 жыл бұрын
As someone coming from the custom PC world into the RC world kinda blows me away that heat is such a big issue on these motors. Liquid cooling options? Heatsinks and fans? 🤷🏻♂️ Guess RC tech is a little behind. Lol
@Lee-tp2kh3 жыл бұрын
I know I’ve been looking at the RC fans for my rig they need to make a smaller one
@Lee-tp2kh3 жыл бұрын
My bad the PC fans there sick with the colors and water cooling I wanna try and rig one to look like a radiator fan on my rc
@briansee4006 жыл бұрын
U rock bro thanks for all the tips
@sharms8886 жыл бұрын
Hate to point out a Big mistake but your resistors are wired in parallel not series !
@federicopralong93506 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan thanks for the video.A few questions. So the famous c values of lipo batteries don't apply here...? 2)- not many charger alows you to charge at 40 amp ..so could you recommend one..3). How much time takes you to discharge at 40 amp a lipo bat? They don't blew up or became bigger.i have some lipos and i m worry about the burst current all the time ..so the esc drain higger current from the battery??thanks your explanation helps me a lot to understant .
@kurtosborn75776 жыл бұрын
What is the best way to select the proper Antiroll bar for high traction carpet...
@ricgruber91856 жыл бұрын
Very informative,like your videos
@nickwilliams68692 жыл бұрын
My battery is 7.4 1600mah 30c 11.84wh and for more take off speed doese the c has to be higher
@robertmoore1196 жыл бұрын
What's up Ryan, good video. The part with the motor analyzer is the part I enjoyed the most. I had a question, Im sure I could check some rules and find the answer to my question somewhere. The last time I was racing, NIMH were the hot batteries and we still had brushes. I raced stock class 2wd. The motors came with bushings and you couldn't run bearings. Ive been planning on getting back into racing. The New brushless motors come with bearings in 17.5 and 13.5. My question is can these bearings be upgraded? ie, higher abec? Or different material?
@robertmoore1196 жыл бұрын
Well I googled and answered my own question. Bearing upgrades are allowed, so are rotor changes. I was aware Of the tuning rotors, but not aware of the rules about bearings. Which is information Im glad to have found. I like the idea Of being able to take something that came one way and change it too my liking. That can make it more difficult for the novice to keep up however. Too be honest, in stock class, I always had the hp, I just didnt have the consistency I would have preferred. Looking forward to getting back into racing after a long break. Back then I was much faster driving my competitors vehicles who always seemed to grab spots 1 and 2.
@alfa71086 жыл бұрын
good vid my fellow Ocalian. hope to see u at our local track soon
@RyanHarrisRC6 жыл бұрын
billy Johnson me too 👍
@Stewman4546 жыл бұрын
Great video's Ryan!
@Lindholmer5k6 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to use some sick resistors between the battery whatever needs power to boost the power ? i realize that the cap will not be able to supply the higher current for long, but atleast you would have a boost as you turn on to the straights?
@papocordova7176 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@alvisgineika93066 жыл бұрын
Try GM Motors there are with there variations, all are superb, in Earth and on tarmac
@superjoint576 жыл бұрын
What size resistors are those? And what did you use for the metal rods that connect them? Thank you!!!
@rcjer64735 жыл бұрын
hey bro I just recently installed a gyro and the gyro worked as far as turning but I had no throttle anymore. so I took the gyro out and connected the normal way without gyro and I still have no throttle. and I tried to calibrate my neutral forward and revers but it wont let me. I have a redcat black out sc pro brushless with a hobbywing wp-10bl60 rtr esc. I tried a new esc also same model and same thing again. no throttle. you seem knowledgeable and I watch you often. maybe you can help me figure this out.
@agoodballet5 жыл бұрын
RCJer make sure you plugged in the ESC correctly on the RX. Some of the black wired stuff can be a bit confusing.
@lilronnie6786 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, great video. What spur gear/ pinion gear combo do you recommend with a 13.5 motor 4wd buggy