Wow, just wow. I can't believe you didn't include the Athlon X2.

Loved how you preempted the "Where is the 5700x3d" comments

The 5800X3D being the GOAT should be included in every CPU review as a reference point haha

Can't wait for 5800X3D to be included in Zen 5 X3D CPUs review

I like to fall asleep listening to Steve say "X3D"...

Get annoyed all ya want. Many of us went out and bought 5800x3d and we love hearing that we don’t need new upgrade for time to come

5800X3D is the 1080 Ti of CPU's at this point.

glad i got a 5800X3D, hoping it will become the 1080ti of CPUs

Thank you so much for putting the 7600x3d in quotes, as someone who sometimes skips directly to the graphs its super helpful to not be confused! It's much appreciated!

Bought 5800x3d as an upgrade from 3700x and its amazing.

You spoil us Steve. Anyway, based off your previous work I figured we knew the 5800X 3D was practically on par with the 7700X in gaming.

Over the last 6 years I've gone from "whats cheap on facebook marketplace" 3570k to a 3800x, dropped in a 5800x3d and then won a 7950x3d based system from another tech youtuber. The 5800x3d and 6700xt I had was AMAZING for the money I had in it, and that 3800x to x3d upgrade was so cheap and easy and made such a big difference. The X3D family is just amazing. So much gaming performance and very little power useage. And I can still CAD model and render videos just fine for the 3x a year I do it. What a great time to be into PCs, and I've been doing it since the 90s.

Regarding the remark for people building a new system, I think that the performance of 7600X is also noteworthy. Under 5% performance margin is virtually indistinguishable and that CPU is significantly cheaper than a 5800X3D, enough to offset any additional platform cost of AM5. So anyone thinking "I'm on a budget and the 5800X3D is a beast; AM5 is nice, but the boards and DDR5 are more expensive", you can actually get the same level of performance for the same amount of money on AM5. And you'll have an upgrade path to even better CPUs (pretty much any other AM5 model, save for the 7600 non-X and 7500F, which are very close in performance as well and so likewise awesome options, being even cheaper).

I had a defective 7950x which I returned directly to AMD and they sent me a 7950x3d as a RMA replacement...I didn't complain, lol. Had stability issues early on but it's running fantastic today.

The fact people aren’t letting you get away without including it only goes to show how absolutely GOATed that chip is. Honestly deserves to go down in history alongside Athlon 64, Core 2 Duo, and the 8086 for being a huge and iconic advancement in capability through packaging

Two reasons I bought a 5800X3D: 1. It's a great performer and technically interesting processor 2. Knowing it will be on benchmarking charts from HUB for years to come

You forgot to add a simulated 4 core variant, the "7300X3D"

The 5800X3D will go down as one if not the most loved CPU ever.

Still waiting for ryzen over 9000!

5800X3D very much GOAT

5800x3D is the greatest gaming cpu release in many years if not all time. Absolutely bonkers that my am4 2017 platform still has a lot of life left.

Kudos for your interaction with the community :)

Still on the 5800X3D myself with a 4090 playing at 4k and I still cannot justify upgrading to a 7800X3D, as tempting as it is. The amount of value I have had out of AM4 is insane considering I have had the same MB for 3x CPU upgrades ending with the 5800X3D I still have (3700x to 5800x and finally 5800X3D).

Amazing review and totally the best cost analysis of the two options. Well done Steve. Now back to you Steve

the 5800X3D and the 7800X3D are the GOATs

5800x3D FTW!!💪🏻💪🏻

ACC is awesome! Thanks for continuing to include it in your benchmarks. Much appreciated

Thank you guys for doing all the testing, it's so amazingly helpful! Had an am4 board and got the 5800x3d and I'm so so happy

Was I not welcomed back to Hardware Unboxed in the start of the video? Gives that feeling that something is missing

I just upgraded from a 5600x solely for cs2 and it was well worth it. The 1% low improvement with the 5800x3d finally made cs2 playable again for me

Thanks Steve!! Probably should start video number 22 on this soon. 😆I have several AM4 systems at home and a couple of LGA 1700 boxes as well. Between my secondary system on AM4 and 3 more for the kids none are running the x3d parts. They are all on 3600s and one 5600x and I'm not going to upgrade to either the 58 or 5700x3d at all. These systems still perform fine with paired with their RTX 3060, 3060ti and 6700xt GPUs. Looking forward to the next gen CPUs from AMD and Intel personally before doing anything. Plan to skip the first gen AM5 parts and maybe wait for the next socket all together. As always massive props for HUB all the work put into benching , re benching and benching some more.

Very cool animations for the platform cost comparisons!

Great stuff, Steve! I would love to see MSFS included in future CPU comparisons, since it's such a CPU-heavy (and poorly multi-threaded) title.

The reason for using 720p/1080p for CPU gaming benchmarks is simple: 1) FPS is a combined result of CPU and GPU performance and is always the slower of the two. 2) A CPU's function is to operate game mechanics and send draw calls to the GPU. 3) A CPU's performance is not affected by resolution or graphics settings. 4) A GPU's performance is significantly affected by resolution and graphics settings. Therefore, a CPU will have the same performance at 2160p that it does at 720p. Since the FPS rate is always determined by the smallest performance number of the CPU and GPU, a benchmarker will make it very easy on the GPU with low resolution so that we can see what the CPU can do when not encumbered by an overworked GPU. There, I said it for you Steve! 😁

my favorite content provider! but I am glad you included the 5800x3d and 7950x3d in this comparison, as I really wanted to see those 2 due to personal reasons of my own setup(many kid computers), thank you!!

Love the content! Love the editing!

It makes me happy to see 5800X3D still packing a punch in those graphs. The GOAT!

Steve, understand us! We love to see you saying "X3D" in the videos! Without joking now, these videos are amazing! You do a great work!

Steve we have the memory of a newt thank you for the new benchmarks :P. I expect a recheck in 6 months I will have forgotten all of this again.. Cheers!

Thanks for the vid Steve

With 1440p + DL-DSR and my 4080 I am really happy with the 5800X3D . I love this CPU!

We know steve loves the benchmarking, it's not a chore ;)

Pretty good video man, thanks!

Steve, thanks for remaking the video with the 5800X3D, I still think it's an interesting topic and worth including if nothing else for easy comparison. It lets people who are still on AM4 judge if it's worth jumping to AM5, or just going for a 5800X3D.

Have to remember that there is both the audience of people looking to buy a cpu as well as the audience of people that already bought one and now want to watch videos to reaffirm their purchasing decision. This is why 5800x3d owners will keep wanting to see videos about it.

Sick, as someone who just upgraded their GTX 1080 to a 4070 Super, but still deciding between staying on AM4 and upgrading from a Ryzen 3700x to 5800x3d or going full AM5 and getting a 7800x3d, this is great, ty! I honestly think because I'm 1080p 144hz for life, I will probably get more lifetime out of AM4 and just go 5800x3d, and skip AM5 entirely and then upgrade the next time they release a new motherboard series. In the UK the price difference between 5800x3d and 5700x3d is only like £35, doesn't make sense to go for the lower CPU at these breakpoints.

Thank you for #21. This is the one CPU X3D comparison video to rule them all. Sometimes, more (CPUs) is not better. Lots of gamers have made the decision to move to an X3D CPU and at that point, all the non-X3D results are just noise. I also appreciate putting the CPUs in version rank rather than by performance. Saves me a lot of time hunting for the CPU I am most interested in. Do I see a trend of the X800 X3D CPUs becoming the gaming standard of each generation?

thanks for the new video, having 5800x3d inbetween these + competitive settings in CS2 really makes sense for a lot of people to decide if they need to upgrade or not, competitive Fortnite aiming for 300fps would've been nice to see too, cuz upgrading from 5800x3d to 7800x3d at the moment makes sense only if you own 4090 and/or gonna do competitive Esports, otherwise the performance gains are slim to none

Your 7950x3d results are better than launch videos a lot and in the last video you mentioned scheduling the games onto the cache cores. Did you mean you’re doing that or are you using AMDs automatic game mode stuff?

Did you use any schedule software for 7900x3d and 7950x3d or only AMD Driver?

Good timing HUB. I ordered new AM5 items and moving to that from AM4 5800X3D. Decided now its time with 7800X3D and new GPU. Zen5 comes this year so i'm ready to check if its worth to upgrade cpu or wait. Ether way i'm ready to use AM5 4-5 years as i did with AM4.

Thanks for adding the 5800X3D! Great to see how I compare to the newer parts and determine when I want to upgrade.

Very Happy with the 5800x3d performance, especially with it undervolted.

Moar benchmarks!

Love the passive/aggressive intro. Class.

That is the best intro i've ever seen hahahaha well done!

5800X3D gang

I cant wait for 9800X3D/9900X3D or 9950X3D! I want to upgrade from 10850K.. 13900K and 14900K doesnt feel that appealing due to lower clocks and so hot chips.. I dont want a furnace in my room and high power bill!

Honestly, I appreciate you putting in the best of AM4 into reviews. It lets me know when I newd to start thinking about upgrading. Its getting there but this stack up helped put things in perspective. Being stacked up to the 7700x is a good spot imo for a previous gen CPU. I wasnt necessarily a fan of the tude but I do appreciate the work. Thank you.

Thank you Steve, love you! ❤

LOL Answered the "do we really need another 5800X3D" before you answered it!!! I always thought the 5800X3D was comparable to the 7700X which is good i know it's not holding back my 4070Ti Super. Good more me as i didn't want to invest in a new motherboard and memory just yet anyway.

It would be really nice with an AMD vs Nvidia comparison in situations where you are CPU bottlenecked. Similar to the R5 5600 scaling video, but comparing cards from both manufacturers. The current video only included Nvidia GPUs, but historically Nvidia has had more driver overhead, causing performance loss to be greater in CPU limited situations compared to AMD. Is this still the case? How large is this effect currently?

I've been using 5800x3d for a year and most likely will be my last path in AM4 platform.. I paired it with B550 Unify-X, bought last week to replace the "granpa" C6H. I know its an old B550 board, but this channel keep convince me that 5800x3d still has some gas in 2024 regardless its price. Therefore, I want to max out its potential before moving forward to new socket. Great experience so far in all games I played (thankfully I don't play those AAA titles except CS2). Great video, as always!!

You can never have too much 5800X3D. Apparently. Maybe we need a 5800x3d x 1080 ti modern day benchmarks. So what if those parts released 5 years apart. GOAT means the hardware is timeless... right?

Those that have a 7950x3d. Set the cpu to prefer cache in bios (ccd0) and put a negative offset of at least 20 on those ccd0 cores (first 8) in curve optimizer. Suprised many of these "Benchmark" videos dont show this, it makes a significant differance.

this animation in the cost analysis was great Unfortunately, this something came to the conclusion but I would like these to be used more often. gives the channel a little more fresh and looks "higher quality"

I'd love to see a comparison between standard 5000 series ryzen vs the 7000 and X3D cpus. I have a 5900x, and so the 5800x3d isn't really for me, but im curious how much better a modern cpu is, as i do seem to be cpu bottlencked in some games using a 6800xt gpu at 1440p. I'll of course be waiting for the next gen of CPUs before upgrading, so would be interested in a video comparison against those too. Great video!

Playing with the 7700x in 4k with a 4090, it doesn't feel like im missing out on cpu with the x3D.

I just do not understand why y'all are so reluctant to do videos on the 5800x3d!

Again an excellent comparison and advice

Love this video thank you.

The 7900x 3D should have been 8+4 with the 3D cache on the 8 core side.

I quick slide at the beginning of the video with rough equivalents could remind folks of similar performing parts on the same-ish platform and save you some time benchmarking. Assuming people read them! Although performance might be a known quantity, there are some amazing deals on AM4 and intel 12th gen right now that might be driving interest in how last gen parts compare with current gen. 12th gen intel and AM4 non X3d parts are straight up budget priced right now, allowing builders on a budget to get pretty insane levels of CPU performance even if limited by their GPU. Honestly this is the best time to build a PC even if the higher end GPUs are pricey.

Just today I was thinking "I wonder how the 5800X3D is keeping up currently" and here you are. Coming in clutch as always. lmao

This is what I've been waiting for! I have the 5800X3D and already been wondering: how abouuuuut... Cheers! Thanks!

Love the full representation of all X3D chips!

Awesome analysis, as usual. I just upgraded my system from 5600X/32 3200Mhz CL16/Asus B450 mobo to 7700/32GB 6400 CL32/ASRock B650M PG Riptide and I am happy. Retained my older 3080Ti and got new 4k Gigabyte M32UC (from LG 27GN850). Tweaked my system with PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, adjusted TDP parameters and memory 6400 @CL30 with FCLK=2133Mhz = it is now besting standard 7700X, and with AIO cooling running at 70% max is quite. Next upgrade will definitely be 9800X3D. and maybe RTX 5070Ti/Super. :) P.S. May I suggest to do 1440p as default testing with such CPUs and GPU and also include AAA like Alan Wake 2 and the likes ... intensive ones.

Thanks for the update, Steve. Despite you having previous 5800X3D comparisons, the value here is seeing it in your current, 2024 selection of games. I'm bookmarking this for the next 6 months of "should I upgrade my AM4 CPU or buy a whole new AM5 system?" questions!

I do have the 7950X3D and I like to say for comparison, that this CPU is made by the 7700X plus the 7800X3D. In comparison to the 7700X has this CPU a 300MHz higher boostclock on the eaquivalent part of the CPU and in comparison to the 7800X3D, the boostclock is 200MHz higher on the equivalent part of the CPU. Basic-Clockspeeds with none optimization! You can turn OFF the CCD without the X3D-Cache in the BIOS, but only if you do this at stock-settings. After that, you can save a profile with this basic-setting and after that, you can adjust what ever you want and save it into this profile as well. At the end, you got the luxury choice, to create profiles for higher workloads with both CCD's active or just a gaming profile only with the CCD0. Using the 7950X3D as a 7700X or as a 7800X3D will how ever gain you higher boostclocks and this way more performance. In sight of pricing comes the 7950X3D here for at minimum 599€, but the 7700X and the 7800X3D together would cost 643,48€ and if you switch between them, you would have to rebuild a part of your system every time and you aren't able to use them together and that's why I think, that the 7950X3D is a great deal. By Optimization, my CCD1 boosts up to 5.820MHz what's +120MHz above basic-boostclocks, ... the overall core-performance is also increased ..., but how ever this is at the end 420MHz above the performance of the 7700X. My CCD0 with the X3D-Cache equal to a 7800X3D is boosting up to 5.397MHz what's an additional uplift by 197MHz against stock-settings and this is at the end 397MHz above the basic-boostclock of a 7800X3D. You can turn and twist the infos as you want - the 7950X3D is that beast of a CPU. - So much performance for the price and this possibilities to optimize my system is more that I ever imagined. @Cyberpunk 2077 with Preset "HIGH" with the 7950X3D CCD1=Off in combination with a RTX 3090 Ti: 1% low: fps AVG: 215(.13)fps @Cyberpunk 2077 with Preset "HIGH" with the 7950X3D CCD0+1=On in combination with a RTX 3090 Ti: 1% low: fps AVG: 185(.11)fps 1% low I still have to record (if wished by comments). VS. 1% low: 165fps AVG: 186fps With a tested 7950X3D and a RTX 4090. VS. 1% low: 175fps AVG: 194fps With a tested 7800X3D and a RTX 4090.

Super cool Antec sponsored this video. The Performance 1 Silent is such a good case and it has an option for a solid side panel for those who don't want the glass fishbowl look. great cooling and great design for a full size case

Yea, we need this 21th video, thank u

@Hardware Unboxed Thank you for including the 5800x3d, you're the best!

Thanks!

Thank you good Sir!

Another great video from SteveX3D but I am a bit miffed there was no TimX3D in there

I got a 5800X3D for $290 during Thanksgiving Day sale last year. I haven't even put it in my machine yet because I'm waiting for my new case. It's replacing a Ryzen 1600X. I also got a 4080 Super to replace my gtx 1070. I'm hoping to get 5 to 6 years out of this cpu and wait for AM5 to mature a bit.

Do we need another video from Hardware Unboxed... Absolutely!

Us 5800X3D owners just need the copium that we made the right choice and don’t need to upgrade, thanks Steve!

Man, what a beast this zen3 3d part is.. 👏

Absolutely amazing video, will not upgrade to AM5 till I see a meaningful upgrade XD thank you very much Steve!!

Patiently wating for video 22! Honestly, the 5800X3D is one of the best computer purchases I've ever made, second only to buying AM4 in the first place. The Celeron 300 (450mhz OC) back in 1999 is up there too, haha.

Good idea of putting a "benchmarking basics" video link in the description.

I think the reason that having some older equipment is valuable is to show potential upgrade options for people looking to make new builds. So they can get an idea of what they'll get for their money. But as you mentioned, just look at other CPU's which are comparable to yours in those benchmarks to get an idea.

I personally appreciate that you included this comparison, as at the time it was a premium of 300-500 to purchase the 7000 series CPUs. I would be greatly appreciative if, in the future, the inclusion of the 5000 series x3d chips is also considered. We would all understand if these changes occur down the line.

Sitting here on a 3950x & considering a system upgrade Including the 5800 & 5700 even if just briefly, was very helpfull to really consider if i'm doing a full system or CPU only upgrade

Thanks for addressing the 5800X3D in the X3D comparison :)

This video is just what I need. I was looking at upgrading my R5 3600, and maybe a R7 5xxxx is right for me! Thanks

Thanks for the update, I can wait for Zen6. There will be a significant uplift in gaming for the 5800x3d. I have been very happy with my combo 5800x3d and 4090 with 32gb Cl14. I also am a proud owner of the Antec Performance F1 case, no need to upgrade if your on AM4 with 5800x3d.

Thank you!

I owned a 5800x3D for a month and then sold it and a board for $380 and went x670/7600x for basically the same price. Now have two 7800x3D and two 7600x builds a couple Months later. AM4 is starting to get sold off when good offers come in.