s1mple says this guy cheated

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Ай бұрын

Do we think s1mple is right?
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@austincsgo Ай бұрын

One thing is for sure though, the coach DEFINITELY deserved a lifetime ban Check out Skins Monkey here: skinsmonkey.com/r/AUSTIN

@strxndo666 Ай бұрын

why life time? He can get banned for like 10 , 20 years ... People learn from time , specially a 10 years ban people change

@chrlzcs Ай бұрын

faze, heroic, mouz were all doing it, don’t you remember? they all got a slap on the wrist

@kepasamekcuka8538 Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs the differance is some coaches had like 2 3 proved occasions, and not in every demo they used it some even got their bans lifted like andy(navi coach att) and lmbt (mouz coach att) only coaches like zoner and hunden got more than 35 proven, so the biggest scumbags are hard legion and heroic but they got of lightely cuz they cried on camera

@Felale Ай бұрын

All the players playing off this info should get an iBuypower tier ban. This is worse than matchfixing. It's a radar hack. If you had a radar hack on another computer and used that info and spread it to your team, there's no difference in how the game plays. Evident beyond a reasonable doubt external assistance is used here.

@t.w.videos1739 Ай бұрын

Is this from months ago? How did you get back into the beta branch with csgo

@sunnyswetabh8950 Ай бұрын

What's more mind boggling is they get all the info in round 24, still they lose that round. Hacks with no skills LOL

@bojandzurovski1449 Ай бұрын

its not hacks , its cheating , abusing a bug. Hacks is software.

@tehjamerz Ай бұрын

Many such cases

@euphoricsynthesizer Ай бұрын

@@bojandzurovski1449 or hardware

@Tylorrr Ай бұрын

@@bojandzurovski1449 he was using the word "hacks" in the American English slang meaning of being "imposters/ bad or fake"

@coloassalchips Ай бұрын

@@Tylorrr his english isnt great, cut him some slack

@rabi0ne Ай бұрын

The coatch cam bug was so cringe... Professional people playing this dirty...

@HandsomeMadMax Ай бұрын

All of professional sports are this dirty.

@CBEnoddyy Ай бұрын

@@HandsomeMadMax Only because of Money.

@mainy1984 Ай бұрын

That's life in a nutshell.

@HandsomeMadMax Ай бұрын

@@CBEnoddyy exactly. Greed is the main motivator for corruption and almost nobody is fully immune to it, when they had a taste of wealth.

@dilach41 Ай бұрын

@@CBEnoddyy professional = money

@vincecs Ай бұрын

needed to make sure it wasnt an old video after suddenly seeing csgo gameplay

@azure8676 22 күн бұрын

when the game actually worked lmao cs2 sucks

@artended 8 күн бұрын

csgo is more relevant now with how bad cs2 is doing

@jakeezetci Ай бұрын

idk why simple decided to bring it up now, you can’t say whether it was forester’s decision upon coach’s information or a direct call from the coach to push tunnels

@friqd7439 Ай бұрын

Does the coach also tell the players what utility to use in each round? If they didn't snitch as soon as finding out about the bug, they should be punished too.

@daviddawood3272 Ай бұрын

back in those days couch could talk to team during rounds on microphone.

@chrlzcs Ай бұрын

@@friqd7439 you know everybody was doing it right that’s why no players were punished, because EVERYONE was doing it

@Felale Ай бұрын

Forester playing off coach's info clearly can be construed as "radar hack" yes and I think he should be punished. If you had one player playing with actual wallhack and you play off their info, there's no difference. It doesn't really matter where the info comes from.

@Nerviniex Ай бұрын

@@daviddawood3272 No, it was banned a year or 2 before, during the Astralis dominance era

@eXartoREAL Ай бұрын

idk why you say thats its drama, is outright a cheating callout. to me it seems like they all communicated with the coach and listened to his calls. all should recieve a comp. ban

@chrlzcs Ай бұрын

should karrigan get a ban? cadian? coldzera? olofmeister?

@arma9150 Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs none of them had their coach blatantly abusing the coach bug ,& none of them coaches abused it for more than 8 rounds in case of hunden & 1 round in the case of robban (he literally lost 16-1 the time he had the bug)

@chrlzcs Ай бұрын

@@arma9150 dead, MIBR coach was perma banned pretty sure for abusing coach bug blatantly

@mattocardo1002 Ай бұрын

s1mple did use cheats in CS:GO, it was 2013 I believe. Should he be banned?

@SaintGGod Ай бұрын

Wasn't it 1.6 @@mattocardo1002

@Yui-999 Ай бұрын

IMO even the players should be permabanned for abusing the cheat so blatantly.

@chrlzcs Ай бұрын

furia did same mouz did same heroic did same they should be perma banned?

@kepasamekcuka8538 Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs yes, everyone who blatantly knew and did the same as hard legion, mb not perma but a good yeard or two

@yuhyeon661 Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs yes

@Felale Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs Yes This is far worse than matchfixing which iBP got 10 year bans for.

@SeanFinn92 Ай бұрын

@@chrlzcs the teams who obviously used and exploited it should be. "cadiaN and stavn became aware of the abuse a few hours after the game" - HEROIC PLAYERS BREAK SILENCE ON HUNDEN'S ACCUSATIONS on hltv

@DaveCS103 Ай бұрын

Bro this is why REAL PROS are soo good. They had to fight against cheaters and still win for yearssss. Goated

@moepl7771 Ай бұрын

every coach: "hold my beer. i am the only one who knows about this bug. thats my time to shine." thats crazy

@pyrotechnic1222 Ай бұрын

9:53 ... what is this "peek" LMAO

@khaledmerzouk6110 28 күн бұрын

he didn't check any corners xD

@dinkin_flicka14 Ай бұрын

I mean i get pissed when i see cheaters everyday on DM so i completely understand how S1mple would have felt or still feel about that match especially when you're competing at the highest level and you're at the top of your career

@erisium6988 Ай бұрын

oh so u are the guy that cries and try to kick me everytime

@GardenofEdens Ай бұрын

Lmao if you are not trolling you are sub human@@erisium6988

@oChEkee Ай бұрын

@@erisium6988Trueeee. Same people who will rage hack assuming somebody better is cheating

@Binzob Ай бұрын

@@erisium6988 Why are you cheating in death match lmao?

@ilevitatecs2 Ай бұрын

if you think there's cheats on pracc, you're just bad. cant speak on valve servers

@laserlord_ Ай бұрын

can we have the Akuma match as well?

@nickzzie9418 Ай бұрын

i think that all players from that team who knew about this should be disqualified for atleast 2 years

@ayo5549 Ай бұрын

People doing this should be fined massive amounts of money. To the point where it bankrupts them.

@randy89555 Ай бұрын

Or jail. For breaking the law in the interest of money

@akito4201 Ай бұрын

@@randy89555 1st of all. eng is not my native. so im sry for my bad eng. i think you are 100% correct. perma ban and literally go to court for it. on lans/tourney or other money based games. for integrity its fucking insane

@user-mj8vf6jr3l Ай бұрын

@@randy89555 no law is being broken and most certainly nothing that would make it a criminal case. idk maybe european law is wacky or something lmao

@egillthor Ай бұрын

@@user-mj8vf6jr3l Yes european laws are wacky, yet you allow theft and fentanyl addicts running around, you know everybody is laughing at the US today?

@StepSisRUstuck 21 күн бұрын

@@user-mj8vf6jr3lif game companies can go after cheat developers and sue them or get them jailed then buying the cheats should also be illegal lets use drxgs for a example if i sell them i get arrested and if i buy them and im caught with them thats also illegal and im arrested they can also do these for cheats but do you think anyone in any government plays video games or evwn cares 😂

@pRopaaNS Ай бұрын

It's interesting that S1mple is taking his time to watch his old matches.

@Felale Ай бұрын

I'm sure he watched it back when it happened since he mentioned it was his worst professional rating online. Probably just popped into his head again recently. That's how the brain works.

@simoncollins69 Ай бұрын

trying to remember that goat feeling

@kuri_sg Ай бұрын

yes doing live commentaries on his shitty ass scam coaching package

@gurugulab1414 Ай бұрын

@@Felale or maybe someone who analyses matches saw this and informed s1mple. That seems more plausible.

@gurugulab1414 Ай бұрын

@@Felale or maybe someone who analyses matches saw this and informed s1mple. That seems more plausible.

@MM-yk7fj Ай бұрын

Imagine being so bad that u have all the info in the world and u almost still lose the game

@PC_Ringo Ай бұрын

What was Navi coach view out of curiosity?

@sredna518 Ай бұрын

great video! i dont really follow your stuff, me binging your tutorial shorts one night is probably how yt got convinced that i must be a fan so youre vids keep getting recommended, and i just wanted to say you seem to look healthier every time i see you, makes me happy for you :)

@austincsgo Ай бұрын

i really appreciate that!

@fash0cs Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m sure this happens more than we realize haha

@hrtenjoyer Ай бұрын

your reviews are always so indepth, ty

@supmofo123 Ай бұрын

Love seeing your growth as a creator Austin! Keep doing your thing, love your content

@R4z0xR_1st_Comment_Enthusiast Ай бұрын

The I'm going to tweet about this 4 years later mouse tilt 🤣

@Hubery_ Ай бұрын

No clue if you did this yet or not but any chance you can show your binds?

@liamosuilleabhain9965 Ай бұрын

I remember watching this live, and just having my jaw rolling around on the floor for the entire series. Never seen a game that made as little sense until the Akuma vs NaVi one.

@bales1569 Ай бұрын

This was indeed hilarious. Pls make more videos like this Austin, I really enjoyed it 😊

@WorldClassThief Ай бұрын

Dope content Austin, looking forward to more.

@sieevansetiawan4792 Ай бұрын

12:12 the solo long player just abandons long

@joleynik Ай бұрын

great video austin!!

@_egghead Ай бұрын

Blast premiere final analysis when?

@fredericomartins7977 16 күн бұрын

can u make video about the aim lock in 2015 -2019 ? im curious about what u have to say

@marcuppf4358 Ай бұрын

I like this type of videos Austin!

@elliotdavies3555 Ай бұрын

How long after this was the coach banned?

@markygg2441 Ай бұрын

i dont watch simple stream anymore will he still comeback or what?

@lang8289 Ай бұрын

This only matters if you go through every single player that played under a banned coach and give them the same treatment, singleing out forester 4 years later when there are so many others feels weird.

@chandlerxcx Ай бұрын

stay pure austin

@DDoseOfCS2 Ай бұрын

Very good video, one thing I want to point out is your facecam covering the radar a little bit.

@Jakee3_ Ай бұрын

Thank you Austin this is insane actually

@tinokosova3356 Ай бұрын

That's wild. I do remember something about the Coach bug. I had no idea it was used THAT much though. It is odd that he brings it up 4 years later. Like did he just review the demo or something? That is also odd. Anyways, thanks for making this video man. Nice to actually see proof of the accusations that s1mple made.

@bigdadpark 9 күн бұрын

the enemy team every match making game lol

@theangrychairman Ай бұрын

good vid austin

@stone8220 Ай бұрын

"HE USED IT 35/35 ROUNDS" HAD ME CRYINGGG LAUGHING

@ZAYZAYY27 Ай бұрын

thanks for the amount of effort you put into this

@jackervin324 Ай бұрын

you should do malbsmd demo review :D

@Devou1s 5 күн бұрын

Did non of the coaches reveal the bug or did they get caught red-handed?

@iudizm Ай бұрын

how is it possible that you have only 34K subs!? awesome and consistent content bro!

@RefRed_King Ай бұрын

austin has no chill bro has all the info 😂😂

@LonelyK1d Ай бұрын

9:57 i think S1mple did call them out, and even said that the CIS RMR was an absolute joke.. no protocols to prevent anything, even team speak audio wasn't stored to fully check these claims, normally a lot of TO's do store teamspeak audios..!!

@WeisheiTM Ай бұрын

How does this still only have 80k views??

@Deadbeatbeats Ай бұрын

I cant believe that shit went unnoticed, great content man

@nerdnetw 16 күн бұрын

Why didnt the players get banned?

@heronblue6671 Ай бұрын

ahh this demo looks smoother than cs2

@usotutu Ай бұрын

What is even worse is that they almost lost.

@salemsaberhagen7628 Ай бұрын

Can you explain the coach bug ? I am not defending I would just like to know if the Coach is the one moving the camera or yourself. is there a command they need to put in to be placed into the game ? I havent seen anyone really go deep on how the "bug" works. also its hard to call out the players when we dont have full context, pushing on eco is not suspect to me and using B utility when you hear no pressure long is not a surprise either. I have been wrong in my defenses before but it hard for me to see things so black and white. Thanks for the video hope to see more coach bug abuse examples. Thanks

@blazewashere7479 Ай бұрын

Use google my brother in christ.

@trisfaleel Ай бұрын

basically they just get bugged into one place so for example this game the coach can just look around at t spawn for the whole game and see the players walk by, etc

@coolissimo69 Ай бұрын

Most likely all teams or the majority of tier 1 teams were using the coach bug.

@prumat3700 Ай бұрын

lets go NAVI vs AKUMA)

@camilodelvillar6860 Ай бұрын

“This was before forester was playing for amkal and making majors” Bro he literally made the Berlin major in 2019 with dreameaters and Stockholm in 2021 with Entropiq

@zirby5012 Ай бұрын

why your voice is so high?

@coach7149 Ай бұрын

Round 26. Did he even have a Molly?

@onion7484 Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he didn't want to bring it up before because it would benefit them more since it gives them fame.

@playandcollect Ай бұрын

I’m in shock.

@tomicak 7 күн бұрын

s1mple wasn't tweeting this at the time because he would lose credibility over some drama which he cba now when he's not playing

@silverstacking3083 Ай бұрын

Simple going back and watching vods of when he was the goat, thinking to himself how did i lose to a tier 2 cs team 😅😅

@dereknichols4376 Ай бұрын

Are u that dumb?they already confirmed cheating,the coach got lifetime ban The only question is=how many players involve with the coach

@zapple5319 Ай бұрын

I think the players also deserve a shallow ban for being on board with the coach bug

@KIoakk Ай бұрын

that ad was so annoying lol why so goddamn squeaky

@VolzYT Ай бұрын

idk why provable offenses like this weren’t banned

@acidburn3562 20 күн бұрын

I miss csgo man.

@mitzee8621 Ай бұрын

From a certain point of view if he is knowingly getting info from someone cheating i.e. the coach using the bug, then he could be considered a cheater as well. If you were playing battleship and had a friend communicating with you the location of all your opponents ships then you would be the one considered to be cheating even though it is a different sort of cheating then if you had a mirror set up to see for yourself the position of your enemies ships. Personally I think this is enough to say Forester was likely a cheater by virtue of his coach using the bug and passing info to him, whether or not he should be banned for this is a much more complicated question.

@SoPsyko 17 күн бұрын

reported to put ads when u dont choose to do ads

@eddyngaue6495 15 күн бұрын

I pay KZfaq premium so I don’t have to see ads and then you have a KZfaqr before they start the contact push ad. How horrible is that?

@unknownentity8256 Ай бұрын

Didn't a lot of pro teams get caught using this bug and nobody got banned except for some coaches?

@MrDucktastic Ай бұрын

I'm not going trawling RBTN etc. but I feel like I heard Thorin and Kassad ranting about this series of games at the time. It was one of the many reasons RLewis and Thorin used to say the Online era didn't count... too much weird shit like this.

@Rosterized Ай бұрын

and now forester is playing on AMKAL and recently got sticker money from copenhagen.. This world is not fair and just man

@chairshoe81 Ай бұрын

s1mple going kramn1k style

@makkarapoikax1100 Ай бұрын

They were blatantly abusing coach bug whole fking team. Six cheaters in one team😂😂

@chairshoe81 Ай бұрын

@@makkarapoikax1100 you must be confused

@turcinko22 Ай бұрын

Simple needs to play again,he have so much free time as we can see.

@exliferEK Ай бұрын

just sad to see actually:(

@erickfelix4393 19 күн бұрын

My only question is: why the players aren’t banned too, look the f* demo, it is not only the Coach!!

@joshuamason8992 Ай бұрын

bro i beg you download an adblocker, when you start getting super dodgy ads we are going to know what you have been looking at

@dixonyamada6969 Ай бұрын

with that in mind, im gonna leave a comment on this video

@cr34torOG Ай бұрын

7th till 8th minute told me you might be clueless?? its different to push tunell with pistol where you can die no problem and other case is to push it with full equip that you dont want to lose...doesnt make it sense?? risk when lose minimum..dont risk if you could lose maximum..

@711mariokart Ай бұрын

They should just remove coaching all together let the players play

@magicpenuts6934 17 күн бұрын

Remember you had the Spectate bug where u could spam alt-tab and see the other team and the coach could tell them...... Said in Video.

@lucasgaiva1653 Ай бұрын

It's hard to see some players receive opportunities to play in the professional scene based on cheating, they don't deserve at all.

@JohnBoy86368 22 күн бұрын

Thats crazy, good digging, those guys needed external assistance to win.. weirdos

@Tapport Ай бұрын

I’m confused why s1mple is calling hacks when he should fully be aware of the coach bug and the HL coach using it. Is he implying that on top of coach bug, Forester was cheating, or is he not remembering that the bug was a thing at the time? Maybe I’m missing or misunderstanding something about it, I don’t know…

@alexandreiss0agr276 Ай бұрын

bro if you seen some matches from Forester online vs lan, you know thats not the same person.

@mihawk8676 Ай бұрын

Well cheathing has been a thing for so long , once there was a german cheater called smn he said that many others to that time cheated on lan aswell (that was 2014) he spoke about that tier 1 has also many cheaters, I wonder who he meant back in the days

@itaikizner2986 Ай бұрын

gotta move the cam from the map

@austincsgo Ай бұрын

I had my recording set for cs2, going back to csgo threw me off, won’t happen again!

@mrotss Ай бұрын

this happens literally all the time lol even worse in t2

@MASTERGRIEFS 19 күн бұрын

It really cheapens the whole competitive gaming scene in its entirety. Like the fact that there's been so many cases of cheaters in these matches when eSports is so new compared to other competitive sports. Just makes it seem like there was always some bs that was happening in most of these majors.