S650 DARK HORSE Mustang ON THE DYNO!!!! | Six-Speed Manual Dyno Results!

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Palm Beach Dyno

Palm Beach Dyno

10 ай бұрын

The S650 Mustang GT is a HOT topic with the Ford enthusiast community wondering what this new version is all about! We were lucky enough to dyno a stock Dark Horse, the most powerful S650 currently available, for our friends at ‪@tripleseven.‬! This Vapor Blue Darkhorse is equipped with a Tremec Six-Speed manual and well over the break in period with over 1000 miles! We've seen lots of Dark Horse dyno numbers with the 10-speed auto, but nothing from a stick shift car. This car is rated at 500 horsepower...will the dyno number match?
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@Lifeof728
@Lifeof728 10 ай бұрын
You can see the disappointment on his face 😂 when it kept losing power lol.
@edddiaz4202
@edddiaz4202 10 ай бұрын
A dhhhuuud😅
@invalidusername_5101
@invalidusername_5101 10 ай бұрын
Why would he care he didn’t make the car
@Naginc
@Naginc 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@crewdawg16
@crewdawg16 10 ай бұрын
@@invalidusername_5101 Not saying he did or did not care, but his business is tuning cars. I'd say it's pretty important to him that the community sees this vehicle as a viable performance option.
@tomdeckert1896
@tomdeckert1896 10 ай бұрын
423 at rear on dyno on stock DH engine is pretty damn good. Add a few goodies to make more.
@ljsites
@ljsites 10 ай бұрын
The more people hate on the S650, the longer my S550 will hold its value.
@reggiecam9134
@reggiecam9134 9 ай бұрын
They gone hold value regardless
@jimthompson717
@jimthompson717 7 ай бұрын
And the better price I will get on mine in August 2024.
@thewolf7119
@thewolf7119 10 ай бұрын
Man I appreciate this information. S650 just isn't as awesome as s550.
@krisp3874
@krisp3874 10 ай бұрын
It's very hard to go crazy over this Mustang for the power and money they are asking for them. I have owned multiple Mustang, and for the money, I would get a C8.
@thefitnesslife4988
@thefitnesslife4988 10 ай бұрын
C8s cost more. After mark ups you gonna be paying close to $100k for a new one unless you talking about a used one.
@krisp3874
@krisp3874 10 ай бұрын
@thefitnesslife4988 where do you buy your cars from? I have also seen $104,000-106,000 on the Mustang. By the way, I'm in the car buying business, so if you are paying $100k for a C8 2LT you are over paying.
@Lifeof728
@Lifeof728 10 ай бұрын
@@thefitnesslife4988Exactly
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
Yea man C8 is like a super car..does 2.7 0-60 on street people putting down 10s on street...dig monster...looks insane and.....tunable
@governmentcalamari9785
@governmentcalamari9785 10 ай бұрын
@@krisp3874you are definitely not seeing s650 dark horses are 100k. 🤣😂 I’ve seen 4 in texas at 60-63k. Ya know since ford forced dealers to cut mark up from the 9.2 billion dollar “loan” the just took from daddy government
@ianrs6310
@ianrs6310 10 ай бұрын
Memories of the '99 Cobra coming back...
@drunkpolack7612
@drunkpolack7612 10 ай бұрын
Good power wise still crazy to spend 70k plus for a dressed up gt 😭
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 10 ай бұрын
It’s not a dressed up GT ffs it it out-brakes every production mtortrend tested. Its 86-foot 60-0-mph stop edges out the 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS and 2016 Dodge Viper ACR by 1 foot. 0-60 was 3.7 quicker than a Mach-1 at vir which was quickest car under $65,000 at that track… some of us can drive quick in something besides a straight line.
@AdolfTrudeau
@AdolfTrudeau 10 ай бұрын
​@@CoyoteFTWnow imagine if instead of a techy interior and a debatable refresh on the exterior, they tried to cut weight and increase steering feedback how little we'd mind the current power numbers
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
​@CoyoteFTW a c8 will do 2.7 0-60 ON the street...ive seen no one getting 3.xx in these
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 9 ай бұрын
​@@ShawnGilbert1967C8 is pretty lame. Only the Z06 looks cool
@paulfretz6777
@paulfretz6777 10 ай бұрын
This shows the difference between atmospheric conditions, cars and dynos. The RevanEvan channel got 438 in stock form with 93 octane and doing the pull in fourth gear. With the carbon trap removed and filters it made 455, with a fourth gear pull. Torque also jumped up on the last pull to 383 ft pounds. The car they tested only had 26 miles on it.
@krisstathakopoulos7409
@krisstathakopoulos7409 10 ай бұрын
I’ll keep my 04 terminator 🤘🏻can’t mess with perfection
@robg2732
@robg2732 10 ай бұрын
yessssss
@powerviking
@powerviking 10 ай бұрын
same!!!
@BeardedForever
@BeardedForever 10 ай бұрын
My '19 Bullitt dyno'd 421/378 at 80*, 68% humidity, back in December in Texas at 28k miles.
@Telexic
@Telexic 5 ай бұрын
Theres multiple videos on youtube of stock dark horses making 440whp lmao. People don't know how to dyno them properly, different dynos read differently, some gas stations sell watered down 93, thats actually lower, the carbon traps have to be removed a certain way, or it will mess up the maf sensor readings, etc.
@XFader505
@XFader505 4 ай бұрын
That sucks lol
@XFader505
@XFader505 4 ай бұрын
Should have just got a base GT and save mad cash 😆
@Mike_OMara
@Mike_OMara 10 ай бұрын
Ford definitely has the balls squeezed on these new s650’s.
@scringe1
@scringe1 10 ай бұрын
How much you think is left in this engine if a tune is possible?
@mattcat2218
@mattcat2218 10 ай бұрын
@@scringe1probably 20 more.
@invalidusername_5101
@invalidusername_5101 10 ай бұрын
@@mattcat2218before bolt I’d imagine
@mcp08gt
@mcp08gt 10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah im happy that my bone stock 2018 mustang gt 6spd car. No autos around here haha made 419whp and 401tq. That was my 3rd dyno pull kept going up in power. So happy with it. Darkhorse looks badass but isnt worth the money.
@SkymanV1
@SkymanV1 10 ай бұрын
He’s right. The car is not a dud. Whoever buys it, is the dud.
@thefitnesslife4988
@thefitnesslife4988 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@gappedtoto1663
@gappedtoto1663 10 ай бұрын
Ha! ❤
@Spad68
@Spad68 10 ай бұрын
Olololololol It's no stud that's for sure. 550 for the win.
@boeing900
@boeing900 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, lets see if you're saying that five years from now, when you won't be able to get a used beat one, much less any new high performance ICE powered car for twice the price. And that's exactly what's going to happen If we don't get these actual fascist that are in power now out of our government.
@gnfnrs1186
@gnfnrs1186 10 ай бұрын
I've been seeing a lot of people drag racing them and not really being impressed.. The s550s are running right with them
@specialperson170
@specialperson170 10 ай бұрын
Ford is trying to squeeze as much money out of people as possible and it's pretty clear and it's ridiculous just supercharge a regular gt and you have a 900hp capable motor from the factory
@koldpizza
@koldpizza 10 ай бұрын
all i know is these dyno videos are all over the place with the numbers
@evildrizzt1
@evildrizzt1 10 ай бұрын
Typical ford quality assurance department. Can only imagine what that gtd will be like
@Lifeof728
@Lifeof728 10 ай бұрын
There are so many variables to dynos. Take all the numbers high and low with a grain of salt. What they run in the quarter mile is the true test.
@al151
@al151 10 ай бұрын
Lol imagine paying 300k and it puts down 600 whp or something
@TheCryptoFarmer
@TheCryptoFarmer 10 ай бұрын
2019+ Shelby gt350 is a much better buy over a dark horse.
@billcollins8713
@billcollins8713 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree 👍 love my '19 350R
@podreels7932
@podreels7932 10 ай бұрын
Or a Zl1 1le, SS 1le, c7 z06, gt350r, hell, even a GR Supra...
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
Predator block ftw
@potranco999
@potranco999 10 ай бұрын
Yep. I have a ‘19 GT350; for almost three years now. I definitely will not trade for this or any other S650. I still enjoy the look, feel, design and performance… oh, and the sound.
@smurfeco2.358
@smurfeco2.358 10 ай бұрын
Im happy with my fbo 2016 gt tuned by you guys . Im probably only short 15 20 hp and its paid off 70k for this nah
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
And probably faster
@SHADOWBLACKs650
@SHADOWBLACKs650 10 ай бұрын
It's not worth 75,000.... vette money will get me a vette next.
@forcedinduction5245
@forcedinduction5245 10 ай бұрын
You won't get a Vette for $ 75,000. Buy a Mach 1 and tweak a few things beat the GT 350 and still have 15k left
@SHADOWBLACKs650
@SHADOWBLACKs650 10 ай бұрын
@@forcedinduction5245 vette...
@Ezvy
@Ezvy 10 ай бұрын
@@forcedinduction5245lol what? Msrp on a new vette is less than 75k 😂😂😂
@SHADOWBLACKs650
@SHADOWBLACKs650 8 ай бұрын
​@@Ezvyyea,msrp is 69,000 ,you can buy all day long at 72k
@danielhuycke3419
@danielhuycke3419 Ай бұрын
@@SHADOWBLACKs650 I was going to call BS on this and then I looked it up. Hot damn you can get one for super cheap!
@Situation_Coyote
@Situation_Coyote 10 ай бұрын
Good video!! And great explanation of haters. 😂 at the end of the day the comments help the algorithm 😂
@digiam42
@digiam42 10 ай бұрын
They are already slower at the track than the gen 3’s. No way I’d waste the money on an S650
@sstevocamaro
@sstevocamaro 10 ай бұрын
What did the stock gen 3 cars run?
@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner
@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner 10 ай бұрын
@@sstevocamaro I am still waiting for his reply as well.
@eternalthread7846
@eternalthread7846 10 ай бұрын
@@sstevocamarostangmodes s650 was slower on the track than his s550
@digiam42
@digiam42 10 ай бұрын
@@sstevocamaro steeda’s R&D car ran 12.1 right down here in south ga at our local track. It was a base model car with the 3.15 gears. The PP cars with the 3.55’s we’re going 11.9-12.0 bone stock. I mean bone stock as in zero changes. Stock tires, stock weight, and pump gas. Stangmode ram 12.3 in his brand new mustang and it had drag radials on. I haven’t seen a single bone stock 24 mustang run at the track because every shop out there knows they are slower. Every single video I see, the 24 has a drag pack, weight taken out, or they are running an ethanol blend to lean it out and make more power. So if you want to pay way more money for a slower car, by all means, go for it.
@AtticAZ
@AtticAZ 10 ай бұрын
I agree about the screens. Looks like an afterthought. Even the 2018 screen was rectangular. But…..integrated.
@robg2732
@robg2732 10 ай бұрын
You can get an LED Screen for the S550s, right?
@AtticAZ
@AtticAZ 10 ай бұрын
@@robg2732 yep.
@mathewprzytula
@mathewprzytula 6 ай бұрын
I just bought one I love my dark horse it rips
@larryhensch2280
@larryhensch2280 10 ай бұрын
Thank Ken and make it happen 😊
@christenn32
@christenn32 10 ай бұрын
Im not sure what exactly people are expecting from a car that makes the same torque numbers and is 100lbs heavier than a s550. And we really wont know much until the gen4 is unlocked and tunable.
@SSj5Alan
@SSj5Alan 10 ай бұрын
Even then, will it even be worth it over either a gen2 or gen3 coyote? It would just be as disappointing if we wait that long for a tunable solution, only to post similar numbers to those motors with FI lol
@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner
@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner 10 ай бұрын
It is actually about the same weight as the S550. Your information is inaccurate.
@siemorjj8081
@siemorjj8081 10 ай бұрын
Honestly you would be insane to buy this car over a newer GT350 for the money...
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
Why so I can get a new engine 😂
@digiam42
@digiam42 10 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more… !!!!
@digiam42
@digiam42 10 ай бұрын
@@cormaro13 There are GT350’s running around with twin turbos on the stock engine and pushing 800whp all day long. There was an issue with the early 350’s but I have seen any of them have issues recently
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
@digiam42 are u talking about someone that can drive it or just throw stuff at it and thinks it fast 🤣
@poopscooper5038
@poopscooper5038 10 ай бұрын
​@cormaro1376 you couldn't afford a 1987 Civic anyway
@dwreus81
@dwreus81 10 ай бұрын
I don’t feel the need to defend Ford just because I have one. If someone screws up well then they screwed up and there’s consequences to that which will be evident by end of the year. If somehow this design appeals to a younger generation then so be it.
@podreels7932
@podreels7932 10 ай бұрын
They were definitely marketing toward people in their 20's.. Not many ppl in their 20's can afford this 75k car.. plus markups..
@AYO_KO
@AYO_KO 10 ай бұрын
I wanna see the true Dual intake plenum too. Also wanna see if there can be a dual intake setup on a Supercharger for the gen 4.
@wallyparker1416
@wallyparker1416 10 ай бұрын
I like it my orderd setup 373 rear end performance package with the blackout package and the base setup on inside interior manual transmission it's right at 50000 got one on order now
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
They will jack it up when it comes in
@robertofigueroa5011
@robertofigueroa5011 10 ай бұрын
Lol at a 15% drivetrain loss estimate on a 2023 manual trans vehicle. I guess the gen 3's must have been 485 at the crank using 15% drivetrain loss.
@vitoaugello1677
@vitoaugello1677 8 ай бұрын
Seems correct. You got the wrench after you removed the carbon inserts. That threw off the air sensor. Happened to me when I installed a pmas on my 550. After tuning it I’m sure you’ll get 430ish? Headers, cams you’ll be well over or close to 520. I’m just not sure how tunable that intake deal is.
@jeffhowell3310
@jeffhowell3310 10 ай бұрын
I agree with your opinions, the biggest problem with these new vehicles is all this new stuff and the super inflation from when covid hit becuase they are money hungry, but they have not figured out that nobody's pay is going up and people are use to owning these vehicles and they are getting priced completely out ot even the middle class let alone the poverty class. There loss
@danielhuycke3419
@danielhuycke3419 Ай бұрын
Inflation was from COVID? I thought it was from over spending and printing money.
@OceanSuper
@OceanSuper 10 ай бұрын
You were spot on about the screens. I can’t stand them😫
@potranco999
@potranco999 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree! I know it’s what’s popping up on new cars nowadays, but I don’t like them in sports cars.
@paulhudgins5120
@paulhudgins5120 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, awesome content, just way to many haters out there, is there things about the S650 i don't like sure, it's the same about previous ones as well, 423 at the wheels for a bone stock n/a car is awesome, it's only going to get better after mods, keep up the awesome work guys.
@Liluzibertgg
@Liluzibertgg 10 ай бұрын
I’m not hating on it but 3rd gen coyotes made 420 hp stock also. The fact the new gen is putting out similar numbers as the last gen leaves much to desire and when you factor in the price, and added weight as well as lack of tuning, I think that’s where people are starting to stray away from it.
@surge45-70
@surge45-70 10 ай бұрын
Bro you can blow your money where you want but at the end of the day performance is where it's at. I'm not gonna go broke on a overpriced car that I could buy a older 550,supercharge it and make power without the extra money loss in over paying.
@charliebanks423
@charliebanks423 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
What mods? It's not moddable and perhaps won't ever be...
@Clean93GT
@Clean93GT 10 ай бұрын
That car having 500 crank and then making 423 wheel, which is what a Gen 3 manual makes it a HUGE let down. Then, figure in the price of the vehicle on top of that, and the car can't be tuned. Car is a ripoff!! You can buy a ZL1 1LE Camaro that makes better numbers and out performs that car and the ZL1 is tunable NOW.
@jeremy05sti
@jeremy05sti 10 ай бұрын
Loving my s550 mach1 for 58k even more now ❤
@potranco999
@potranco999 10 ай бұрын
And me, my ‘19 GT350 I picked up in ‘20 for $58k with 6k miles on it. I’m not trading for a S650, at least not with what’s offered today.
@Laskyification
@Laskyification 10 ай бұрын
How is this only making 420 when a stock c6z with only 5 more crank hp puts down 440-460 regularly
@agentd36
@agentd36 10 ай бұрын
I’d rather have a 2019- 2020 350 or a Mach 1. Not crazy about the front end, rear is dope
@Telexic
@Telexic 5 ай бұрын
I love the dash screens in the s650, looks awesome in my opinion. Would be better if they had a smaller bezel like the new bmw's, but i'm still happy with it over the microscopic dash the s550 had. Also the 23' s550's were almost the exact same msrp as the s650, option for option. The discounts ford offered before covid do not count. Before I ordered my car, brand new 23' s550 GT's, fully loaded, were over 50k, everywhere.
@Dr-YouTube
@Dr-YouTube 10 ай бұрын
“Felt like a brand new car” 😂
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 10 ай бұрын
Im a Mustang guy, I have a gen 1 GT but damn, I used to have a C7 Z06 and it’s a hell of a car and you can get a used low mile one for cheaper than a Dark Horse
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
Yea but that c7 was low quality , only thing worth from it was the v8 😂
@AB-coyote
@AB-coyote 10 ай бұрын
@@cormaro13C7 certainly has its flaws but what makes you thinks it’s “ low quality “ ?
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
@AB-coyote you're kidding right ? Why don't we start with the brand it's coming from lol nothing but low quality and warranty work from them
@AB-coyote
@AB-coyote 10 ай бұрын
@@cormaro13 have you owned one?
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
@AB-coyote are u asking if I owned a low quality chevy product before ? Then the answer is yes , too many lol Just cause it's their most expensive sports car doesn't mean quality any better buddy 🤣
@fast02gt
@fast02gt 10 ай бұрын
I’ll hold onto my gt350 and 04 cobra, easy choice.
@NoContext414
@NoContext414 10 ай бұрын
$75k plus most likely a dealer markup makes these a hard pass😭
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 10 ай бұрын
Easy pass when you can get a low milage C6 ZO6 for less and is faster. You can even get a C7 ZO6 for less.
@NoContext414
@NoContext414 10 ай бұрын
@@fredeb67 with the Mustang platform a low mileage 19-20 GT350 is an easy buy🤷🏽‍♂️
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 9 ай бұрын
​@@fredeb67nobody cares... Only name the price of brand new cars
@TheBb6prelude
@TheBb6prelude 9 ай бұрын
​@@fredeb67how much is a new z06? Or new C8?
@fredeb67
@fredeb67 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBb6prelude If, and that's a big if you can get one at MSRP, OVER $120K. Dealer mark ups have been as high as $80K over sticker.
@stevenhanna6973
@stevenhanna6973 10 ай бұрын
You see the disappointment on Ken's face
@komaboi19
@komaboi19 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the pricing (for most of the cars I like right now actually), and things being so expensive right now that you can't even make a bad decision on them. I'm almost grateful though, as I really don't like the overall quality of design for these. I've always been a Mustang guy but I'm really not excited about this new one. Once I saw the pricing of the recent GT500, I wasn't excited about that either, especially after seeing the interior. Even thought I still think the Mach1 is overpriced, it's the most alluring recent Mustang to me. The new one will probably grow on me, but not enough to pay the new pricing.
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 10 ай бұрын
Let's get it
@markkilpatrick7951
@markkilpatrick7951 10 ай бұрын
You may need to keep the laminar flow plastic piece in the air intake tubes so the mass airflow sensor doesn’t get confused ??
@zolztizio21
@zolztizio21 10 ай бұрын
I want to see a dual plenum set up! With maybe ITB’s or trumpets 👀
@Internet_Handles_Are_Dumb
@Internet_Handles_Are_Dumb 10 ай бұрын
I’l just keep loving my slow but awesome sounding and fun to drive 3V and put a coyote or Godzilla swap down the road if I want something different in terms of power. Love the newer models but I just can’t crap out the money for new or some of these used cars for what the car market has become.
@MrPrime269
@MrPrime269 10 ай бұрын
The only reason people are calling it a dud is because the performance does not justify the price. Not only does the car weigh more but it only makes 20 horsepower over the previous generation to the wheels. Save your money and buy an s550 or a Mach 1. Dealerships are charging 10k over msrp on a 70k car. At that point you could buy a c8 corvette Shelby gt500 or gt350, or even a hellcat. Or supercharge a s550. Heck even a tuned s550 stock would smoke This car.
@mooosestang
@mooosestang 10 ай бұрын
something whistling after you took the carbon traps out. Middleton motorsports got more power by leaving the airbox lids off than removing the traps. They hit 450hp with no traps and no lids, but it was cooler than 92 i think. They also dynoed in 5th and somehow took it to 7200rpms.
@mattwilliams8140
@mattwilliams8140 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was sittin here thinking this car should be making about 450 to the wheels if its 500 crank hp because its usually about a 10% loss!... A 2020 GT makes about the same power stock as this Dark Horse was making here..
@mooosestang
@mooosestang 10 ай бұрын
@@mattwilliams8140 If they could figure out how to take it to redline it probably would make 440ish, but they screwed something up taking the carbon traps out, that was clear.
@RW-zh7kl
@RW-zh7kl 10 ай бұрын
​@@mooosestangI think he said they forgot to plug the mass air sensor back in which probably threw all the codes.
@marktarascio4766
@marktarascio4766 6 ай бұрын
Goes really good on the track....bs the steering,is numb can't tell what the tires are doing But those were pro racers should be fine for those 2.
@marktarascio4766
@marktarascio4766 6 ай бұрын
Those traps actually straighten the air thru the mass air flow sensors .Maybe that messing up the dyno #.
@optimumperformance6998
@optimumperformance6998 10 ай бұрын
@Ken individual plenums would not work on a cross plane crank engine. They work on flat plane crank engines due to the equal firing pulses. You need the cross cross bank pulses in the plenum to feed to double bank firing with a cross plane engine. I would have liked to see timing and fuel correction before and after the CT removal, I feel that the gains being realized are simply corrections being made due to the PCM seeing something it does not expect and switching strategies. Flowing these intake assemblies on a bench and reading the curves to calculate actual air mass flow would be the best way to determine and calculate the gain. Running on a dyno with the lids off and the hood open...yeah garbage data. Ford effectively doubled the airflow of the S550 air inlet and the engine grew by what 5CID? Funny how IMSA Mustangs easily make 500+ with the stock GT airbox. Packing smaller molecules in will always burn more fuel. Im also curious if the port fueling strategy has changed. Thats only really there to give more time for mixture motion at high rpm. The drawback of DI, not much time to make a happy flame front at high rpm.
@bullittboost6046
@bullittboost6046 10 ай бұрын
Triple Seven making the rounds. Just finished dudeinblue test driving this DarkHorse
@ClickbaitMotorsports
@ClickbaitMotorsports 10 ай бұрын
Sponsored by Ford. Ford is indirectly provided these cars to YTbers. Strings attached of course.
@bullittboost6046
@bullittboost6046 10 ай бұрын
@@ClickbaitMotorsports You know it.
@ClickbaitMotorsports
@ClickbaitMotorsports 10 ай бұрын
@@bullittboost6046 I mean it's obvious. This happens in almost every industry. Ford is discounting, loaning or just providing these S650s for YT content, as long as these YTbers agree to say only positive things about it. You can tell by numbers and reviews who is in Ford's pockets and who is not. I'll support those that don't sell out.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
Yea like man ir opened up after 500 miles and then 1000 miles....
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 10 ай бұрын
@@ClickbaitMotorsportsI’m almost certain if you made most average dudes drive a darkhorse for a day they would say it’s fun and that they enjoyed it
@GannonKupkoSr
@GannonKupkoSr 10 ай бұрын
Talking about the dash and the screen... I saw this one of these at the Ford Nationals in Carlisle... wasn't really impressed by the exterior, but as soon as I looked in at the screen, I told my wife they really messed up with that. It's just so, I wanna say, last minute added on. I mean, this is a fail in my book. GT500 engine in an Explorer??? I would LOVE to see that!! That would be the ultimate Ford family SUV!!
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
Put that dual intake on a Gen 3 using a pigtail for MAF and tune it be curious to see...
@JBWHITEGT
@JBWHITEGT 10 ай бұрын
I agree. My number one dislike is the tablets. Looks cheap and unclean. They should have integrated screens into the double dash design.
@sergebasque8460
@sergebasque8460 5 ай бұрын
Ken if you can have your staff or friend to video one Darkhorse at the track like Bradenton or Orlando speed world , then the hater’s will have something to talk about.👏💪😎👍
@gordydexter2615
@gordydexter2615 10 ай бұрын
Wow you said you don’t like all the negativity and yet that is exactly what you did!!!! Wow!!!
@edddiaz4202
@edddiaz4202 10 ай бұрын
I saw that
@hpsportzintell8080
@hpsportzintell8080 10 ай бұрын
Looking at the numbers on this new mustang. You think they just put the aluminator crate engine in this car. If they did its low numbers but it's built to take more power from superchargers and stuff for the tuners. If so that's not bad being Ford and other car manufacturers had so many recalls.
@CoyoteAUS
@CoyoteAUS 10 ай бұрын
I’m not a hater, but the facts are from my perspective is the stuck on ipads, heavier than S550, same/similar power as S550 (my stock 2020 10R80 GT dynod 401rwhp before I Whippled it) just tells me to stick with my beast and not trade it in for the S650. I’m waiting for a more radical revision down the track.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
It's very true unless whipple let you put your blower on the s650 it will bolt right on
@allthevibes46
@allthevibes46 10 ай бұрын
Don't think it's so much people being haters😂. The s650 is heavier and putting down the same numbers as s550's even though the s650 is rated at 20-26 crank hp higher. That along with the crazy cost and the fact nobody knows when they'll be tunable....yeah I'd say it's a disappointment so far lol. Especially the Dark Horse
@Jaruzelsk
@Jaruzelsk 10 ай бұрын
Have you driven the new 24 gt ? On paper doesn’t mean anything. I drove the 24 gt today and that rides way better then a 23. Also ,it does pull faster then the GT. Feels better ,infotainment system is better ,exhaust is better ,sounds better and overall just a better Mustang.
@allthevibes46
@allthevibes46 10 ай бұрын
@Jaruzelsk lol so far the track is saying that the dyno's aren't lying. Glad your butt dyno says different though. I'll wait until these things can actually be tuned to change my opinion. Regardless of what your butt dyno says, we are seeing what they can do stock
@Jaruzelsk
@Jaruzelsk 10 ай бұрын
@@allthevibes46 Lol even if it does change you’re cheap ass won’t pay for the new product. Like I said ,you haven’t DRIVEN the NEW GT ,all you’re doing is watching videos and believing whatever lol.
@BoostJunkieMedia
@BoostJunkieMedia 10 ай бұрын
This is so disappointing for the money increase. It was one thing when a $35K car made this power but now a $70K+ is making the same.
@biged2193
@biged2193 10 ай бұрын
My 20 GT is the one have!
@skullhart
@skullhart 10 ай бұрын
1:35 S550 doesn't try to kill you...the Fox chassis is the champ there.
@B49nope
@B49nope 10 ай бұрын
Bad drivers will kill themselves in a Smart car
@FordSVT1313
@FordSVT1313 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m sticking with my 03 Cobra lol.
@Je-tm2ku
@Je-tm2ku 10 ай бұрын
"Felt like a brand new car" 😐 Bruh it is a new car.
@colinmeeks1054
@colinmeeks1054 10 ай бұрын
Hard to justify the price tag
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 10 ай бұрын
The brand new car felt like a brand new car? Wow
@marksiniard9731
@marksiniard9731 10 ай бұрын
I bought a brand new 2012 mustang GT in 2012 and dynoed it with only 350 miles on it. My friend who dynoed his car before mine, also bought a 2012 mustang GT with the exact same options as mine. Same rear gears, same trans, same everything. Except mine dynoed 423 rwhp and 403 tq. This was done by a reputable performance shop and by reputable tuner. Some say there's no such thing as a factory freak but, the fact my friends car with exact same packaging as mine dynoed right before mine and didn't even come close to the numbers my car made proves there must be. Also, my car backed up those numbers repeatedly on different pulls as well as taking it to different dynos.
@RW-zh7kl
@RW-zh7kl 10 ай бұрын
You still have the dyno sheet from 11 years ago?
@marksiniard9731
@marksiniard9731 9 ай бұрын
​@@RW-zh7kl I sure do
@stevehrocks
@stevehrocks 10 ай бұрын
Did you put the air straighteners back in?
@lukepartin1487
@lukepartin1487 10 ай бұрын
is there still a "dyno mode" plug on the driver side strut tower on the 650 like there was on the 550? Maybe they moved it? Maybe theres a new way to enable it other than just unplugging a connector? Probably why you were chasing weird issues.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
It's has a lot more encryption as well as multiple modules talking to each other I doubt the abs plug is still there...hell this think can talk to Ford and do OTA...just Google.....Ford says no tuning on 2024 mustang
@Chris-ng6kn
@Chris-ng6kn 10 ай бұрын
Man I agree... It's a V8 manual, RWD Ice car... Tell you what go get in your electric battle ship bathtub then. For me.. I am happy the Mustang lives on.
@edddiaz4202
@edddiaz4202 10 ай бұрын
Alejandro flores is right its a dhhhuud but hey you asked them and they told ya if they could go back they would have bought a mach 1. And you complained about pretty much everything about this car 😢 that only confirms that its a dhuuuuud PERIOD
@user-ev8oz9mr1p
@user-ev8oz9mr1p 10 ай бұрын
duel plenum thumbs up
@1400IntruderVS
@1400IntruderVS 10 ай бұрын
A drive after a hard reset should have been a no brainer
@brucewiegand3939
@brucewiegand3939 10 ай бұрын
Dual plenum would be sweet 👍
@andrestnt
@andrestnt 10 ай бұрын
That other guy is a clown, YoU HaVe tO PuT 500 MiLes oN It 😂. NO Amount of miles is gonna magically give ya an extra 50hp. The disappointment in all these peoples faces is hilarious, almost every single vid i watch people have the look.
@edddiaz4202
@edddiaz4202 10 ай бұрын
wE dRiFt tHeCaR
@alexevans5043
@alexevans5043 10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@jimmymccormick142
@jimmymccormick142 10 ай бұрын
Great video awesome car love the new mustang Ford power forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it
@micahbrown8259
@micahbrown8259 10 ай бұрын
Ill keep my 2017 GT good ole 6r80😂
@mikemontgomery8892
@mikemontgomery8892 10 ай бұрын
Dual plenum billet intake? ... yes please
@seannagel8718
@seannagel8718 10 ай бұрын
Did ford ever give one away for the naming? I submitted the name dark horse but I'm sure a million ppl did
@stephencarbajal5657
@stephencarbajal5657 10 ай бұрын
If reference CJ pony and American muscle they both did dyno pulls with a 2018 GT with manual transmission and they both put down 420-422hp. Two different cars two different dynos. 2018 crank hp is 460 im not sure about the dark horse being impressive.
@potranco999
@potranco999 10 ай бұрын
Well, not overly excited. First of all, I commend Ford for continuing to offer a v8 sports car, with a manual. Kinda disappointing that Ford hasn’t made significant changes to the performance. Design wise… not thrilled with the front, the rear is nice. Interior… sorry, I don’t like the big screens.. I know it’s what newer cars are coming with now, but not a fan of them on sports cars, especially big iPad looking things. I have a ‘19 GT350 that I’ve owned for almost 3 years now… engine is bone stock. I still enjoy the design/look, feel, sound and performance. I don’t see myself trading for a S650… especially for the price. Like others have said, for $75k territory, it makes sense to explore a nice C8.
@xitzstormshadow3036
@xitzstormshadow3036 10 ай бұрын
Whattttt the noises that thing makes
@BruceLee-sw4ms
@BruceLee-sw4ms 10 ай бұрын
I’m buying a GT and a 3.8 Whipple . Should make some power.
@mikes1292
@mikes1292 10 ай бұрын
Do the gt500 swap explorer 😮
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 10 ай бұрын
Why would it make more HP in 5th gear as opposed to 4th gear?
@mikehughes8023
@mikehughes8023 7 ай бұрын
It’s not making more horsepower. You just hit peak rpms without bouncing off the limiter.
@joetaylor5113
@joetaylor5113 10 ай бұрын
So it makes the same power as all the other 6th gen ss Camaros cool.
@FL50ssp
@FL50ssp 10 ай бұрын
HP maybe, how about TQ... same as Gen V LT1?
@slowboybk5098
@slowboybk5098 10 ай бұрын
mind you not they dyno a bone stock 19 gt350 it made 463whp yall better off buying a 2020 gt350
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
So I can have the engine replace several times nah I'm good 😂
@cmdrdredd
@cmdrdredd 10 ай бұрын
@@cormaro13that’s a myth from people who don’t do maintenance and don’t check their oil and go beat the car up on the track going to redline with no warming up and no oil catch can so it sucks in blow by like crazy and then blame ford. I saw a post where a guy brought his car in for noises and they found no oil on the dipstick. That’s a bad owner not a bad car. I own a 350 and it’s as reliable as my GT was.
@cormaro13
@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын
@cmdrdredd I guess we seen different videos cause early ones were trash lol I'm sure maintenance has to deal with it but then just comes poor quality
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
​@@cormaro13nope the predator block on the Voodoo revision is the shit...2019 up
@potranco999
@potranco999 10 ай бұрын
@@cormaro13nonsense. I’ve had my 350 for three years. I drive it like it should be. No problems.. drinks an extra qt. of oil every 5k miles. The 2nd gen voodoo’s are solid!
@outdoormatt5188
@outdoormatt5188 10 ай бұрын
💥💪💯
@streetcarmedia660
@streetcarmedia660 10 ай бұрын
Buy a low buck gen 1 do simple mods and you will have the same results. You guys know this.
@hpsportzintell8080
@hpsportzintell8080 10 ай бұрын
The tunes and upgrades gone be crazy about next year but it's a little disappointing. Got to be in the 500s tourqe range. Last year dash looked better.
@ArabianOak
@ArabianOak 10 ай бұрын
Dark FARCE!!!
@jasminedavis7105
@jasminedavis7105 10 ай бұрын
Well imma keep my 99 gt and my 2013 5.0 mustang darkhorse aint pushing out like that
@SHADOWBLACKs650
@SHADOWBLACKs650 8 ай бұрын
Where EXACTLY does it say a break-in mileage for this engine? Nothing in the owner's manual....
@autofox5.067
@autofox5.067 9 ай бұрын
It sounds good, but for the money I would buy a base GT and supercharge it and leave this in the dust
@crewdawg16
@crewdawg16 10 ай бұрын
15% drivetrain loss through a manual you say?
@seanc6754
@seanc6754 10 ай бұрын
You know i was in high school when the first LS1 Camaros came out and 4.6L mustangs with there 280hp were all over the place and it took thousands of dollars to get a car to make 400 hp to the ground and now they are coming stock with over that and people wanna complain?.. they just dont realize how badass cars are these days. Plus all everyone does is complain anyway. Now the price tag is absolutely ridiculous but that is going to change soon too.. these dealerships have screwed themselves and this isnt covid anymore and people arent going to pay these absurd prices and banks arent rly giving loans out on these over priced cars
@edddiaz4202
@edddiaz4202 10 ай бұрын
We dRifT thE cAR
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 10 ай бұрын
I think the only hate is because 90k for a n/a car cost more than the 2020 GT500.. or you could buy a 2024 GT 49k, twin turbo kit built transmission plasma man intake, and still have change left over. But no tune. So the GT500 starting to sound like a better deal
@thefitnesslife4988
@thefitnesslife4988 10 ай бұрын
Lol where are ya'll getting $90k from? I just seen a darkhorse for sale today for $63k
@B49nope
@B49nope 10 ай бұрын
​@@thefitnesslife4988$63grand for an overpriced 300a package Mustang? LoL
@digiam42
@digiam42 10 ай бұрын
@@thefitnesslife4988 you will not buy one for $63 right now unless you find a unicorn dealer
@rubee5.043
@rubee5.043 10 ай бұрын
@@thefitnesslife4988 markup. Dealers are marking them up by 10,15,20 grand
@Stroked302Mustang
@Stroked302Mustang 10 ай бұрын
63 plus an average mark up of 20k plus taxes
@whatswrong8428
@whatswrong8428 7 ай бұрын
At least with all the auto dynos no matter what the kms are power is the same
@RW-zh7kl
@RW-zh7kl 10 ай бұрын
Well the hp is almost right at the factory rating, but torque is higher soo that def helps. But overall underwhelming for a really expensive Mustang.
@Smasher-Devourer
@Smasher-Devourer 10 ай бұрын
Imagine paying $70-80K for a car that performs worse than the previous generation. The 2018+ GT manual made 420-440 on the dyno.
@PalmBeachDyno
@PalmBeachDyno 10 ай бұрын
You're either a troll or just grossly misinformed. That's not even close to true
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 10 ай бұрын
Which part Ken? Are you saying the S650 bone stock is quicker and traps faster than a 2018? Or that no manuals gen 3s were doing 420whp? I seem to recall some and around 408ish or so A10?
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