British southafrica vs zulus in victoria 2

Redcoats are industrial era, Impi warriors are medieval era did you look at unique unit eras

@@mechanicalpastry9606 you're reading into it a little too much

Lmao

It's so true though

The ones with cow shield and pointy sticks

The black one

Lmao

Tyler Ghersinich but he says that really urgently because they’re about to be overruned

@@NapoleonBonaparde im a cunt and this made me laugh

My god 😂 I can imagine it now

I think you mean Black Friday. Because it's a proper name.

nahhhh why

Lol

​@@MyndirOh nein, dont be such a grammar ally

Wounded 500 zulus vs 15 brits

WOOOOOOOOOOO TEA AN TECHNOLOGY BABYY

Man, those Zulus REALLY did not want indoor plumbing and a written language

Strength 139-141 British Army regulars 11 colonial troops 4 civilians 100 NNH cavalry (briefly engaged, then fled) 3,000-4,000 Zulus: iNdluyengwe ibutho: 500 to 700 men uThulwana, iNdlondo, uDluko amabutho: c. 3,000 men Casualties and losses B 17 killed[6] 15 wounded Z 351 confirmed killed about 500 wounded

@@scottydu81 They didn't asked.

"good news sir the men can actually hit the enemy regularly"

Sharky Prodiver “Sir permission to to get my yellow trousers”

A Chest Puller quote (An American General), Though very fitting here.

No defeatism at its finest

Sir i just hijacked a tanke and ran it into the enamy line i finck there routing

Yes. They were trained hard, to run barefoot to develop thick soles, so as not to rely of footwear that would fail. Zulu's could run all day, and still have strength to fight.

Each of them are like usain bolts

I also remember that they run a mile in under a hour and fight a hour at the end of it

I mean they were trained to march 50 miles in a single day in hot weather barefoot.

Imagine if they started forming squares like it was against Napoleons cavalry

Na. It was a movie and in the movie there was no music. Only the voices. So... They did that to warn the British that they were ready Edit:if this is a joke don't judge me

smells like a fresh r/wooosh

@@PrakashJamaica who are you whooshing

@@mark76443 jesus christ you are so stupid

​​​@@mark76443r/wooosh

Lol

Ive just got the joke….

Lol😂

Damm I just got it

I wonder what the equivalent of this would be for white girls and starbucks

For the Empire

*I SEE this GAY FACE Everywhere, but uses 40-different names!!!!*

King and Country!

Nice reference brother

@@ultknight3135 British rifle man "BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE"

Phrases I never want to hear again for 200

@Brian Szymczak it's a game show meme

@Brian Szymczak it's good bro

@Cheesecake is Good Good. Now we can do a little thing called 500 kills in 20 seconds.

"That simplifies the situation"

What a normal kid watches:coco melon or something What I watched when I was 7:

Are you a Bore by any chance

Based af

I don’t even know what kind of moment this is, but it’s certified

That's fucking metal mate!

Cool as fuck

Use a machine gun

Actually Mr. "Mad Jack" Churchill said something like that when He was encircled in Italy.

Fair fight

@@joelimwan6611 Gatling guns

Us a heavy flamer with the tight formations the fire will hit more people

should be "wankers" top marks for effort though!

And move bloody to just before tea

@@alexanderrowe790 wanks can be an insult too

@@Driver-Nephi "You are a wank" just hits in a novel way

congrats on becoming the second largest spanish speaking country in the world

Imagine how the spirits of your ancestors react to your existence😂

You're a walking peace treaty

​@@moonshine6304lol

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ShieldBuddy WoT MCPE Memes The flu: (That fucking cat. Don’t remember it’s name.)

Yes

@@shieldde6209 Fuckin' got me 🤣

VIRUS ATTACK ! STRIKE FRONT AND BACK ! MAKING ANTIDOTE AND IMUNE AT WILL PILLS OR BE KILLED BEDDING AND WAITING ! xD

*where do I sign?*

I'm in. Follow me my brothers. Unto to victory we fight. [Warhammer 40k]

Where’s the field trip sign up paper than I’m in

*March of the British Grenadiers intensifies*

Hell yeah sign me up

That isn't the full context "Dalton pointed out that a small column, travelling in open country and burdened with carts full of hospital patients, would be easily overtaken and defeated by a numerically superior Zulu force, and so it was soon agreed that the only acceptable course was to remain and fight."

They used a horn attack system which was absolutely terrifying and they repelled it with little forces

It's not as impossible as it sounds. They had every advantage in terms of quality, literally the only advantage of the Zulu's was their numbers. The Zulus rushed line infantry head on, tripping and falling over their dead comrades only to fight well trained men with bayonets standing behind fortifications. All the men didn't fire all at once either, there were constant and concentrated volleys going right into a huge blob of Zulus. Each volley left a new ridge of corpses, making it difficult to just run in. I'm not saying it was not impressive work from the British, but similarily to the Battle of Thermopylae, it's easy to think it was more of a feat than it actually was.

+Mattias Gabrielsson Still, it's damn impressive.

Although the Spartans didn't have the same issues the British did. They lucked into terrain (which they DID have the idea to use) & they also had gear that worked in their favor (armor well beyond what the Persians could easily work against & weapons that would go right through what the Persians where using for protection). Sure, it would take a good degree of athleticism to do this & some other traits that were handy for this type of fighting- but it wasn't like it gets made out to be. David & Goliath comes to mind- bringing that sling to the duel was like taking a .45 to a knife fight. Vikings, too. Sure, they worked out & were capable fighters- but it's a big guy swinging a weapon he could afford that happens to work well with some extra weight on top of the brawn.

+Atkrdu A gun isn't always a game winner in a knife fight. An expert with a knife will always have the edge over an idiot with a gun. That being said, you make an excellent point.

Thank you. That point about the gun & the knife is the truth- the one with the gun might not even have it chambered & ready to go. Honestly, I figure I'd rather have a blade (that I can access quickly) if I were within arm's reach. Dealing with some instigator that's in a car while I'm on the side of the road, not so much. People forget about the car, not just the person that's possibly got a gun pointed at the door ready to shoot through it. Makes a good case against gun restrictions & for a non-gun dueling tradition, in my opinion.

AHAHAHAHAHA fukin Wakanda

It's better

Pretty much should be

Kaiser Wilhelm the second, Black panther historically accurate edition.

black panther 2: the colonization of wakanda

Me and the bois chilling on Roblox at 3am:

DAMM ukraine

South Africa is the land of the Khoisan peoples, the Europeans were there before the Zulus

They still fought when the Zulus got into the hospital.

40:1 Poland? That all it takes? :P

being wounded or sick doesn't necessarily stop you from using a gun or a sword

ThePeaceMaker28 When you are sick your perfomance is significally worse, cause your body is wasting a lot ot resources trying to recover you

I think that was awesome you know, even though your body is tired you still keep on fighting.

The leader of the Zulu in the movie was the actual leader IRL.

@@howardsmith9342 Butalezi

That’s actually awesome

The only thing that could make it more perfect is that the british were actual british guards or at least soldiers

Bs. There aren't 4000 Zulus in this movie. Besides the shields are some cheap imitation, not made of real thick cow hide.

It worked for them at isandlwana

Chad Zulus didn't need Guns

​@@toontown9854bro they used guns 🗿

Yeah bro they also have aim issue💀​@@keanchristoffbusmeon5039

​@@toontown9854 that's why they got annihilated ?

@Evan Mauger if you can do some basic math you will find out that that was 1000 years ago

Give it 20 years.....

@@sirbader1 lol

@jayfenny7461 I dunno what's funny about that.

@@sirbader1 because if you can’t laugh at the horrible state of the country then you will never enjoy life because of how depressing the world is

Pretty sure less than 17 died in the actual battle

@@Smelly556 I am surprised that they had won, they were clearly outnumbered, the only thing the Zulu had to do was charge and brutally overwhelm them with superior numbers.

@@KatSerya thats...exactly what they did. The brits had superior everything. Planning,weaponry, and terrain. The Zulu were quite far away when the brits saw them, and they knew the Zulu were coming beforehand,allowing preperations

@@Smelly556 yeah and the battle tactics of zulus were ineffective to the entrenched Brits. And Zulu weaponry was mainly effective against other tribes not European powers

@@gen169 the Zulu tactics were actually quite good, just outdated. Zulu tactics beat the Roman's, having younger, more agile soldiers form the horns of your army while the older more experienced form the center. The quicker ones outflank the main army while the more experienced ones clash in the middle, its quite effective. But outflanking gets thrown out the window when they know you are coming, know your tactics, and can kill you from a football field away. Not to mention that there were no "experienced", soldiers in the army that attacked rorkes drift. The army that attacked was the loins of the Zulu, basically the reserve army. It consisted wholly of fresh young Zulu soldiers with no battle experience. That's why they legit just sprint towards the brits with no tactics

deARKYzator ! Zulus had a few guns also

Not just any guns either, the exact same Martini-Henry rifles the British were using, taken from the dead at Isandlwana. Is bad enough to die at all but when it's a rifle and bullet until recently held by not just a fellow British soldier but a friend from your own regiment that's gotta really STING

deARKYzator ! .

if you watched the movie, you would know he was shot.. plus, its just common sense. You can't just break rank like that Edit: Oh joy, he deleted his comment.. He originally said that he was "laying down to aim better"

Soldier 546 died from heart attack

Sheldon Cooper You do know about the Battle of Isandlwana right?...

@@naughtydog201 yes. These two battles are a good example of a battlefield making all the difference. The men stationed at Isandlwana had no guards posted to warn of an attack and the ground itself was flat and open. Perfect for the zulus traditional tactic (the horns of the buffalo) to decimate the camp, plus it was the main zulu force counting beyond 10,000 warriors whilst only 1500 British soldiers were there On the other hand, Rorke's drift was a small encampment with proper buildings and ( while somewhat hastily thrown together) had a defensive wall that provided a good perimeter for the roughly 160 British troops to guards comfortably. A smaller force of zulu's numbering around 4000 attacked Rorke's drift but their preferred tactic didn't work because the british were behind a wall and could fire in all directions with ease

Sheldon Cooper Good man. Just had to check; many do not know of it. Goes to show what a difference strategy and competent commanders make. I do find it rather irritating that the English have always immortalised Rorke's Drift but largely forget Isandlwana. I guess it is normal for any country to want to brag of their victories and not their losses. We are the same. I visit both battlefields often. Amazing part of my country's history. You'd be surprised at how plain the land is. If you didn't know the history, you'd think nothing ever happened there. I guess the same holds true for any battlefield visited today. If you haven't before, go check out Zulu Dawn (1979). Great film and largely forgotten. Probably because of the reasons I outlined.

@@naughtydog201 oh yeah it shouldn't be forgotten that Isandlwana is the greatest defeat ever hand to a technologically advanced army by an inferior(technology wise) one

@@naughtydog201 The more annoying part is that other more intense and important Anglo-Zulu War battles were largely forgotten. The Battle of Kambula was considered the turning point of the war. Then there's the Siege of Eshowe, a rather boring skirmish, but reading about the British and Zulu plans and preparations to one up the other was intense. There's also the Battle of Gingindlovu which showed showed how superior the british were and how one sided the war really was when they weren't fooling around like the last time. These three battles would be great sequels for a Zulu movie series.

The moment when you achieve a world conquest on emperor as Shaka in 1200. RIP Polynesia, you were the first to fall in 1700BC

That moment when Chengis Chan finished researching cavlary on diety.

That moment when your German neighbour researched public administration in CiV Vanilla.

that moment when Gandhi nukes you

The moment you try to fight all of the Central American tribes with about 5k troops in EUIV

what is the movie name?

​@@puhamaci2009Zulu (1964)

​@@puhamaci2009Zulu

​@@puhamaci2009the movie name is Zulu

@@user-uv5ls9kf4j Thx!

it really is a good movie.

People "wrote" better movies before "Special effects" because they (had to) >Look at old Star Wars vs new Star Wars...

@Louis Vanden Broucke That's incredibly false. Numerous movies in the 1960s were political.

They should make a version of the movie where, after the Zulus salute them as fellow braves, the sympathetic British share some of their food and even nurse the wounded Zulu prisoners back to health.

gabriel toews Also the zulu extras were actual zulu tribesmen

If it involves the British empire losing after invading, its all G 😊

@@M_W_L_F the British won at Rorke’s drift handily.

@@M_W_L_F you know they were both “invaders” right? South Africa was a British colony and the Zulus were not part of it. I feel like you’re confusing them for rebels or the boers? In fact the British were technically the defenders in this war

Arguably is an understatement. Islandwana is seen by most historians as the worst defeat ever suffered by a technologicaly superior force against a technologicaly inferior enemy.

@@XXXTENTAClON227 Still, Fuck British Empire

@marios gianopoulos depends on the setting

@marios gianopoulos if we're talking medieval then longbows and plate armour tip this battle *massively* in favour of the British

@@Drazhoath1 Both Germanic and "Celtic" britons were still way ahead of Africa, the British Isles were way ahead of Africa long before AD.

When the british were in a 20000 to 8000 battle days prior *Insert shrek making concerned face here*

Whos forgoting the 7 years war, also im pretty sure the british fought in 100 years war, everbody forgot that, the british are amazing at warfare.

Shaka: guys it was just a joke the British came to my door asking questions.

Nononono

Narrator:"They could in fact stop all of them"

Fires Volley with 20 Men and 5 In reserve using Rifles to pick off Stray Zulus.

If they didn't surrender the would've won

But then when finally the officer does smth

@Megalodon Unlocked It wasn't Zulu territory. The local tribe had no issue with the British being there to protect them from the Zulu who killed and genocided all those who wouldn't join them.

​@@LeviForWaifu Imperialism and chauvinism is bad kids no matter from what country it comes from.

I know your comment is old but I saw something like this on a short documentary about ISIS. The journalist and cameraman are trapped in a civilian house surrounded by IS fighters, and its just incredible how resilient the army was, one soldiers hopped in after getting shot in the foot, bandaged it himself, and hopped back out because their numbers were insufficient. War brings out the worst in humans, but it also brings out some incredible courage at times.

Had no other choice in the matter either die, or die fighting.

👍

Well the thing is after like 800 Zulu died they retreated I mean they lost less soldier then the brits did

at isandlwana defensive lines are overextended, poor ammo supply (many soldiers run out of ammo) and they lack of reconnaissance

Zachary firestone at isandlwana the british didn't set up proper defenses as their limited recon had said it was a small zulu force (which turned out to be only one of the 4000 man horns) 2000 guns vs 4000 spears is in the british favour. so they didn't see a need to set up defenses or a proper supply network (if they had drawn up their lines right by their ammo many argue they would have repelled the attack. the zulus still lost 2500 men dead and another 2000 wounded, vs 1300 killed (the zulus killed all the british they captured) with 500 escaping at rockes drift the british only had 250 men (and the zulus had 4000) and so new they were in worse position and thus set up defenses. they killed 375 and captured another 500 wounded. while the british lost 17men and a further 15 wounded. the main british force (about 6000men) who were looking for the zulus heard of the main battle (isandlwana) and headed only to find all the dead bodies (which had also supposedly been defilled) and then rushed to rockes drift. this is one reason why the zulus didn't attack again as the main british force outnumbered them and had guns, and they would be cut off from retreat. we see the zulus left at 7am and the british army arrived at 8am. some sources claim the 500 wounded zulus were then burried alive with their dead as revenge for the defilled men lost the previous day. the other reason the zulus left was because they had dirrect orders not to attack rockes drift (as it was in british land) from the king, and almost 900 lost (plus more that could walk) is already a bad enough thing to have to explain. in total the british lost 1332 men (dead and wounded) and the zulus lost atleast 5400 men dead and wounded. so at neither battle did the zulus loose less soldiers then the british did, and the main british army was still alive and would come back (with afew reinforcements) and win every following battle with less then 100 men lost each battle.

mkotow Isabdlwana was a different situation

Actually the force that attacked Rorke's Drift was the reinforcement force named "testicles" while the whole army attacked Idlandlwana but still if you consider that many of the brits on Rorke's Drift had almost no military experience its is indeed a heroic stand

32 soldiers at Rorke's Drift were known to be Welsh. Also the myth about them being majority Welsh comes from the army reforms in the 1880s, which made the 24th ROF into the South Wales Borderers, which made the regiment definitely Welsh.

I was so confused, I read that as 'Death before dinosaur'. I don't even know how my brain misread that.

Motto of the Royal Dinosaur Regiment.

yay I'm welsh

I thought it was japanese..... OH LOOK YOUR PROFILE PIC XD

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The Zulus had more guns. It shows how important *aiming* is.

@@chaimafaghet7343 no lol

​@@pattyguy Rip aim bozo 💀

People put way too much emphasis on guns in the anglo-zulu war. Is a gun a better weapon than an iklwa? Yes, but when you're that badly outnumbered, a breach-loader isn't going to do you a whole lot of good before the Zulu close the gap. Especially considering that when the Zulu are properly structured they have the youngest and fittest sprinting up both flanks to start the melee as soon as possible, while the more experienced force advances up the middle, firing if they had guns as well.

Carter Gates imagine just chilling, watching the horizon and suddenly 4000 fucking dudes sprinting full speed at you

They didn't really fight 4000 impi, and you could imagine there were only 100 or 200 zulu warriors that could attack at a time. They did, however, fought off a 1/4 of the zulu force, which then retreated because it shouldn't had had even attacked Rorke's drift.

Only thing I’m gonna say is the zulus were marching for longer than they thought they would be meaning they were hungry and tired

You should see some of the shit we did in Afghanistan, including a bayonet charge in 2012 and literally riding on the side of helicopters into battle (as in strapped to the side of an Apache gunship).

Lol true

XD

Wasn't that the Company Sergeant Major? Not Private Jenkins?

Damnit Jenkins use your weapon Jenkins: LEEEEEEROOOY JEEEEENKIIINS!

He hit a guy to his side

SNIPER CHIEF27 it looks like he missed though

Zły Fapaja lol

its so true

XDDD

Usually africans somehow manage to be on the same tech as europeans in mid- endgame though

That is due to the removal of westernization.

Actually this isn't Zulu Dawn, it's Zulu(1969). Zulu Dawn is a different film

@@Crom_Apsotle aknowledged

@@Crom_Apsotle 1964

The hussars werent around anymore unfortunately

@@centurionmk5236 THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

@@centurionmk5236 I could literally hear that going right over your head

Honestly I wish. Imagine the Hussars appearing from behind the Brits and destroying the Zulu. It'd be beautiful

@I eat hotwheels cars For the grace, for the might or our WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

Its because people get relaxed when seeing they out number

Because we had some stupid generals but decent troops the saying lions led by donkeys

Britain loves being a plucky underdog.

Both are caused by insane hubris.

Pretty much the only time we lost when we outnumbered an enemy severely was Singapore WW2

True

Meh, with mods, its worse than the normal raid....

@@slovakvladimir5316 ok

Ε ισαι ελληνας;;;;;

@@christos237 ναι

Apache Attack Helicopter

Arturia Pendragon 4000 and they had guns too

the Zulu weren't even native to this part of Africa, they migrated south in to British territory

who would win an army of well trained elites supported by an army of metal monsters commanded by the best commander of the time that have never been stopped or some angry farmers in holes from australia

It depends. Are they behind impromptu walls of a kraal or with their back to a bluff on a wide open plain?

zulus

@@randomaccount340 thank you this world would be a better place without auto correct

Same

lol

@@TreeGeography. I made it 100 ;)

Holy smokes thanks

THE LINES MUST HOLD

Kate Schmid Damn,thats SO cool

Oh fuckoff these wankers dont have a clue about SA history. Footage from fkn Zulu? Jezziskrist.

Kate Schmid What they don’t tell you is that the Zulus almost won but THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

Kate Schmid I am British and would love to see it

Whites and blacks should just get along

True

Hehehe we know who won

Rome 2000 years ago was in a better state than africa has been in any period of time since then, that says it all

No, Zulu war song vs. Men of Harlech: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLeieJuntLOUo6c.html

​@@whatever12. or you could look at it as the medieval period being a regression. If humanity had stayed together and a certain library hadn't burned than mankind today could've been more advanced than it currently is.

*Foreva

Long live Britannia

The sun never set on rooineks because he couldnt trust you in the dark.

Because they had guns and cannons. Just as the French, Spanish and Italian colonialists.

yes, but the French, Spanish and Italians didn't do almost as well as we did.

@@danielboyd320 Same comment posted as the guy above.

Well remember they had Ireland as well so tiny islands technically

The sun will never set on the French third Republic lol what number are we on now 7

Then you just get absolutely murdered by mortar trucks and heavy bombers

@@bowlingpin3092 yup

@@bowlingpin3092 that's the most annoying thing in the whole game

In monte grappa operation while on Austro-Hungary

@@yesiexist1771 Please no,too much PTSD

In Africa there are boys too... and they will win song-battle: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLeieJuntLOUo6c.html

Brolution Gaming, Me: See that land It’s the Queens. *plants flag*

@@paladinboyd1228, a wild Zulu appears....

*angry british girl noises*

*repels Zulu warriors using rifles and bayonets*

Imagine that. It's 1878 and your in South Africa fighting for your life against the Zulus and all of a sudden you see a bunch of polish hussars riding down a mountain.

Would startle the crap out of the Zulus though lol

+EDT308 and the Brits.

I feel like the British would harrumph up a storm.

+EDT308 at that point, the Poland would have been conquered for about 100 years or so. So ya, the British would probably wonder why the fuck where there polish hussars in South Africa of all places.

Bro ha s mindset of my father about usage of modern weapons 💀💀

I hope with real guns and spears

Also, one of the things that made the Zulu so strong was that unlike what had been the "rule" for tribal warfare there in the past was that they absorbed the tribes they conquered, instead of annihilating them. That is why they grew so fast.

I agree. Despite the Zulu warrior being historically nicknamed the “Spartans of Africa”, he and his kingdom have far more close connections to the Roman legionnaire and his empire.

The geek is heavy in this one :)

Maybe if the Roman empire had not formed in Europe and there were no strong countries, the Zulus would have been the cultural powerhouse of the world.

@@Grubnar Ahh so they did a mongol and took them in.

The great lesson of KZfaq - the comments are everything-ist.

@Kyros Droztamyr oy vey

The comment section is even better than the song 😅

We remember, in September.

WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

I arrived

A Winged Hussar and a lot of your friends too

Then the American Troops and the German army Joined together at last.

lmfao

lol

When the school bully and his squad says he is the coolest person in the school

i know a ukrainian guy like that

Mars Citizen2030 Beat The Fuck Outta Him

"Well, they've got a very good bass section, mind, but no top tenors, that's for sure."

SiberHavoc (british accent) "reloaaaaaad, fireeeeeee t reloaaaaaad, fireeeeeee t" best line of the movie

And lose.

Advance!

The Zulus ran 50 miles to rorkes drift and lost a battle at the end

The British Empire strikes again! This edition: SPACE CONQUEST

Seeing ur name i should get a Stuka picture 🤔

Long live the queen

Magyarr

But they can doe

1528 : let's siege Vienna, they can't stop all of us

Wow history really does repeat itself

Lkl

The Final Stand is such an inconic trope that appeals to all men and boys.

@@maltich5132 yea that too

*coughs* Primo victoria *coughs*

Alright lads let's make a compromise. *Some* of the best Sabaton songs have been about defence. Can we all agree ?

@@sheldon-cooper yes