Thank you for that PCI-E X16 X8 X4 warning. Very informative.

How have you not got more subscribers, you've been on here forever and your content is decent.

How is this different or better than the ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card that is only $70? I mean, based off what I read from the review and this video, it is the same for 30 dollars more.

Broooo!!! I've been looking for this type of video. The expansion card is so new, literally less than a month. Hahaha. Thanks!

Haha I was literally just putting one in my cart to test out, thanks Tom!

Mate, thanks! I have just been thinking about looking into these, cheers

If you want to see some truly amazing performance with that you should look at ZFS Tom. Spin up a VM of TrueNas and offline the drives in windows then pass them through to the VM, give the VM all the memory that you can, setup those drive in a ZFS raid and share the drives back to windows with ISCSI. Connect to the drives with ISCSI initiator from windows and then format the drives. You'll be reading at RAM speeds.

great video an d unfortunately i do not have the time to investigate myself. But as you said with the ability to assign the specs of bandwith to the drives, would it be practical to asssign each to say, an audio, a video and a photo drive and have the last as another, even giving up the bandwith of a secondary slot so long as the gpu slot runs full speed?

Tom, hope you are doing well. It’s been long since i visited your channel, it’s really good to see you going strong. Just wanted to bring this to your attention, in this video i see you have 17k views yet 300k plus likes. Something might be wrong with your account, you should reach out to youtube. I think you should be getting more views than it’s currently showing. Keep well mate!

Hey Tiny Tom, I've been researching these cards. I have a quick question. Without using any other PCIE slots, does the x16 slot have to support 4x4 bifurcation? Or does this card do some magic to sort this? I want to get one for the latest Intel release, but all the motherboards (Z790) I find only have 8x2 bifurcation.

Great video Tom, thanks for the heads up on the PCI-E lane speed. 👍 How does this card compare with the Dimm raid cards, speed & throughput wise.?

Nice one tom , thanks for the heads up

?AMD EPYC/Threadripper current gen give you pretty much the max lanes, also what about board that support bifurcation for that card, I know there are other more expensive cards that support on board lane combine and bifurcation.

I'm tempted to get a cheaper one of the 4x4 pcie nvme adapters, even though i only have 4 lanes in my second x16 slot, its the only way to store the m.2 vertically. meaning i can strap on a Thermalright HR-09 2280 PRO SSD heatsink. because it's airflow layout is across the nvme insdtead of length ways.

Does windows see them as individual drives or does it see the adapter?

Nice Rev review, basically a very expensive M.2 to PCIe adapter ! Did you stick a Gen 5 NVME in just to see if it works ?

Check your motherboard bios for PCIe bifurcation x4x4x4x4. If the option is not present, check for newer bios revisions, it might be added in them.

I built a new machine in mid-July having bought most of the parts from Amazon during the Prime Day sale. I bought 2 gen 4 SSD's, a 1TB for the OS, and a 4TB for my data. The 4TB drive was $179.99 US dollars which I found to be a HELL of a bargain considering past prices of SSD's. With this thing I could put 16TB in a computer for under $900 with shipping and handling. NOT that I would need that. But during the next Prime Day sale I could probably get the same or a comparable drive for even less, along with the 4X add-in card even cheaper than you say it is here. Prices drop all the time, so this stuff is getting more attractive, if one needs it. I personally don't, but it's nice to know what's out there.

How to create raid 0 in this card 4 xm.2 For crasy boot

Love the ASOT Shirt!

Hi Tom.. But where is the comparison to ASUS Hyper M.2 X16?

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall Bifurcation being mentioned as a requirement, which is required for more than one drive.

My PCI-E expansion came out very slow compared to spec speed for the nvme, but it was still about 50% faster than SATA. I'm still using a am4 platform with whatever pci-e that has.

99$ seems quite steep for a passive adapter card with a air cooler. Would have liked to see a pcie switch based card but then it would have been many times as much. especially with modern platforms and motherboards with only maybe 20 pcie lanes.

my asus z790 has got 2 full 16 slots but will drop my saphire nitro 7900 xtx down to 8 lanes , have got 23 GB in my box so not too short on storage .....

What is missing is verifying the CPU can handle the number of PCI lanes and weither or not the 16X card is going through the CPU or the chipset.

Hey Tiny Tom, lemme get that 999FX board with the m.2 slot

Do you feel as if this would in any way alter the life span of an NVME drive?

for about $300-400 you can get a highpoint nvme raid card. They even have one that is bootable. I used it for a while. 13GB/s with very little cpu use. Vs a software raid that is gonna use a lot of the cpu.

Hiya bro, just visiting you been a while.

I was looking at this last night and I might have to use the 4x4 bifurcation for the Asus Crosshair Hero VIII just to use two more nvme drives

Nice one Gov!

So the off-brand/no-brand versions of this are quite a lot cheaper - is there something this does that justifies the $99 pricetag?

I think my MB already can take 4 or 5 nvme's

Can you use this PCI Add in for TrueNAS? Would it be able to pick up and RAID it?

This is nice for those people rockin threadrippers and xeons and have the pcie lanes to use this device.

Gaming drive has been a WD_BLACK AN1500 4TB, might as well use the extra x16 slot if you have it , was on sale for just over £300, no brainer, has replaced my Crucial MX500 SSDs, case is alot cleaner 🥠🍨

Brabo!

NVME adapters are only practical on Threadripper, and Xeon systems, home systems do not have the PCI lanes to make use of these adapters. The motherboards also need to support bifurcation, which is also mostly not available on gamer systems, only workstations and servers. I have a dual 40 core Xeon system, the performance is remarkable.

My understanding was that "Bifurcation" needed to be selected in the system BIOS/UEFI? Thank you, Tom...🇺🇸 👍☕

He's RIGHT about checking the mobo manual and NOT skimming thru it!!!

Put thermal pads on each nvme! And thick enough for it to touch the plate.

Just realize, didn't even mention that this will run on a Threadripper PRO system.

Hi Tom, I can't post on the forum as I don't have permission. Forum user is Excalibur 👍

would you like if a company that sold you a product to then manipulate that product to advertise their stuff on it ? well that is what nzxt did with my kraken .

YMMV, but I did that last thing a while ago and 2x2TB worked out a lot cheaper than 1x4TB. Wise advice alll the same. It seems a mite short-sighted now to have ditched two full-fat sockets 'cos Mobo/GPU makers lost interest in SLI/Crossfire. There was always going to be tech that would leverage the speed/bandwidth in the immediate future. Pretty dumb finding yourselves having to reinvent the wheel.... AGAIN!

Nvme raid? Nice

16x lane is adeal breaker for me; I might as well just get a U.2. or regular PCIE SSD from intel instead

This would work well with AMD's latest APU Ryzen 5 8600G leaving the X16 free.

The water cooling is ghetto fabulous... lol.

X670E is the only board that I can think of off hand that support Lane Bifurification

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Argh! Don't call "slots" "lanes" on a video where you're discussing how many lanes are in each slot. Paraphrasing, you said this lane only has 8 lanes going to it.

pisspoor attempt on explanation, it is not only about wiring - forgot to mention the BIFURCATION - not only the mobo has to have a 16x slut, the bios has to support the modes of bifurcation to 4x4x4x4x and that on the specific pcie 16x slut you intend to use for that expansion card, common mobos if they have at all two pcie 16x only support /if at all/ only one, if you use a beefy video card, you might be forced to move it down /physical space problem in case/ to occupy the primary pcie 16x slot that as only one is capable of bifurcation.... also no mentioning on raid support on intel /limited to proprietary VROC/ vs amd /no limitation like at intel/, also no mentioning the approximate cost of storage vs card at time of filming for viability, also such cards are available for a while from other manufacturers /asus hyper m.2 with pcie 3.0 and newer ver pcie 4.0 as well for 40-50 euro without bifurcation/, also no mentioning why not rather purchase a m.2 to u.2 adapter or pcie 4x to u.2 add in card /chances are you would have a unoccupied 4x or 8x slut on the mobo/ and buying enterprise grade u.2 drive in there /available currently april 24 in up to 61,44 TB, a 7,68TB costs some 700 euro, 15TB some 1200-1300 and 30TB around 2600-2800/

This card is only suitable for HEDT/Workstations (Threadripper/Xeon) that support PCIe Bifurcation

what is memory bearification??? 😂😂

In other words its a waste of money for most people unless they're relying on an APU.

It is cute that you think i got PCI-E lanes or PCI-E ports for add in cards like this on my new budget 350€ ASUS AM5 Motherboard. But it's OK it already came with 4 or 5 NVME ports (Gen4 + 5)... for my 1 Gen3 NVME drive. So i guess i can still buy NVME drives like a mad man for my Steam library. //edit: well OK Logan went pretty good in depth here on the lanes problematic, i'll allow it.

Kind of a dumb disclaimer on the 16x. Of course you should check compatibility with your hardware before you buy something. People with a specific cpu socket and no intention to change motherboard dont look for cpus they cant use. The same priciple applies here.

Tell me you pretend to be an expert without telling me you pretend to be an expert. Only ppl who read things from programs themselves like diskmark saying "Striped" are the ppl who don't know what they're talking about. It's called raid 0 and clearly you've got something wrong there. As those speeds should be way higher. You either don't use enough lanes, cores/threads or the card itself bottlenecks transfers. Although, first 2 options are more likely. 9r you're using pcie3 which limits the speeds to around half. Didn't watch whole video there might me an explanation there why it's performing with 50% speed. It should be 25 gig minimum.

Tiny... More like a Huge. Just because it's from Sabrent it's FIVE time the price of a reasonable nvme to pcie x16 ebay card, your assertion that's it's reasonable is a dirty great big lie. For shame for selling out.

This should not be marketed to anyone that have a regular desktop PC. This is for HEDT PCs that have 88 lanes like threadripper. A lot of people are gonna see this and get themselves in trouble and very hurt for getting their hopes up. Your so called regular cpus are worthless, they have next to no lanes, 21 lanes are laughable. All that money and yet no resources. Regular desktop CPU are good for only one thing, SPEED. You want to use nvme cards, gotta step up to the HEDT platform.

Dear OC3D fans Could someone tell me what controversy Tom was involved in ? This channel used to do Numbers..