Yo, I wanna give props to the doc! I had my bike seat covered with multiple types of padding which I found to make my perineum hurt. I removed the paddings, lowered my seat & rode smooth as hell!! Thanks man.

A very good demonstration how important saddle pressure monitoring is.Solved a problem for me which an experienced fitter who did not have the equipment could not solve.All Pro Teams use them.

Thank you. Last week I moved my cleats backwards because my feet were painful. But I was not feeling well on my bike after that. I 'll lower my saddle as you did with your client.

So a thicker or thinner pad in the shorts is going to make a big difference. It starts to get a bit mad then. Unless you get only one type of shorts.

I had to drop my saddle 3-4mm after buying new shoes as I was getting foof pain and saddle sores. I later replaced the seat, which was stiffer and had to drop the saddle again 2mm. It's such a fine line getting it right when running at max height.

I do understand these fits come from the perspective of achieving maximum comfort on the bike. However, are there any losses in terms of performance? Perhaps it would be interesting and useful to quantify any gains or losses in terms of performance that come with such adjustments.

Interesting. I tend to avoid making compensatory changes, because it becomes very difficult to link cause and effect. If I adjust my cleats I leave everything else alone until I have done some miles. Keeping a diary of adjustments and symptoms is a great idea though. I should start doing that.

Thanks for another great video! I have been watching many of your videos lately and with the help of them managed to improve (at least I think so) my riding position on my different bikes.

I didn't know how critical cleat position was until i bought a new bike & new shoes, the shop guy did a bike fit and set my cleats back, ( about 1/2' back from where they were on the old shoes) After 3 weeks i was starting to hobble about & people were asking what injury i had ??? I switched back to the old shoes & did some stretching before each ride after 2 weeks i was walking normal again................Rules of Thumb don't work for everybody and i now know to stick with what works...............If it ain't broke.................

thanks John!!! ive never felt better on my bike!! Ive always had toe numbness until this video! keep em comin’

Cleats all the way back! And if using toe clips, make sure you get the large / xlarge so that the correct part of your foot is over the spindle. Severe pain now eliminated by buying larger toe clips - no longer pushing with numb toes. Had to buy toe clips one size larger than shoe size indicated

I never got fitted. But I feel I would be really relaxed for you to fit me. And I would run to do it if I was in the area. Very detailed and professional. 👍🌞

nice video！ but iam wondering how could i know that my saddle height needs that 5 mm adjustment？ Because most people dont have the equipment to know the pressure on saddle. My question can also be put like this：how should i set my saddle height roughly and adjust it to the right presure? does the method "inseam length - 10cm" work? hope you can reply me, and again, thank you for the nice video!

any feedback regarding his new saddle height causing knee pain?

Great video as always! I'm learning a lot from your content. Thanks a lot!

Cleats back allowed him to drop his heels more, as he was not riding on his toes, this exaggerated the saddle height drop required.

Doesn't really tell you anything about how to find your perfect saddle height. Misleading come on.

John, really good tip! Always had problems with pain in my hands during my ultra-endurance rides and with Transcontinental Race around the corner, I really thought that would be a problem. After this video I lowered my saddle for about 4-5mm and I think that I am having less pressure on my hands during a ride. More shifted backwards to the saddle, which is not a problem. So this looks to work out very good for me. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks!!!

It's informative to know how a minute change affected saddle pressure, and to be cognizant of that fact. But the title of the video is misleading. I thought I would get information on how I could dial my saddle in. Apparently, it's possible only with the serious equipment he utilizes in the video.

Just by looking the front shot at the beginning of the video you can see that the rider is rolling on the saddle. And if you reduce the saddle height you should have lowered the handlebar height. Just basic stuff.

Boy, I guess I'm making every mistake in the book. I wear worn sneakers with no cleats, my rat traps broke 35 years ago and I never got around to replacing them. My old skinny seat hurt me so I bought a big padded monster with springs. But I'm almost 70 and I still ride my 50 year old Fuji five mornings weekly.

I love having your videos as a resource, thank you! I am having some discomfort especially the day after I ride at the very top of both of my knee caps, maybe a hair to the inside. I wonder if I should scoot my aft back a bit? I raised my seat a hair and that seemed to help a little bit but longer, mostly seated rides are causing me discomfort there. All mountain biking. I'd love your thoughts and which video you'd point me to. Thanks!

Great video I learn a lot thanks.

John, firstly - great videos, love them! If you dont have the saddle pressure equipment, any tip on what to focus on so you can make the micro adjustments later? Side camera can be setup but I dont think it will help much.

Very insightful

What’s with that wall?

What's your view on how far or in front of the ball should the cleat be ? What is considered safe ? Also regarding frame size ... should one go one size smaller as I see it is rather common. Thanx

Hello John. I would like to ask you about a little issue i don´t find the information anywhere: I recently bought a road bike which bike shop guys fitted to me. Until that moment i realized I was always riding with my saddle lower as i needed to have it. I felt in the beginning that it was a little bit high for me. In that possition i felt that my seat bones were in the right place but i felt like in tiptoes when i was pedalling and a little bit unconfortable, as my hips were rocking a little bit. The first ride with that position was 95 km and i felt my calves more overload than my cuadriceps. They told me if i low the saddle didn´t do more than 3mm, That is what a I did and also i moved back my clips a little bit. I feel more confortable and efficient, but i feel my seat bones are forward where they have to be placed. Another thing is that in the higher possition i am slower, but my calves work in all it´s extension. In the "lower" position I think they doesn´t reach it. I know is very difficult to explain things like this, but I am sure with your experience know what i am talking. Thank you for your information.

Great video! Im having problem with pain and cramps in the back/inside of the leg (above the back of the knee and upwards) after a long ride (not so much during) I guess its the hamstring (semimembranosus) were it attach to the knee. To low saddle?

nice man

awesome video! was wondering if you have any recommendation for thighs rubbing against saddle? thanks!

this is amazing. I experienced something similar.

Do you think, based on the slight asymmetry of the pressure plot that he might need a thin shim on his left cleat (or possibly some flexibility tests to ensure balance)?

hello Bike Fit Adviser, thank u for u informative work! Im an elite level rider and i have a problem with cramping/weakness in the sartorius muscle! often i have to quit races because of that and its really frustrating! I do a lot of core workout and yoga but the problem just seems not to go away! Maybe u have an idea! Thank u so much in advance!!!

Hello John (+Bike FIt Adviser)i have one question regarding bike fitt and saddle height.Sometimes when i go on a ride my left arm start to hurt(in my palm) and i notice that my left hip is moving forward on the saddle.This is saddle problem or is something else?

So if he had more pressure on the saddle after the cleat position change, you dropped his saddle height slightly more?

How tall was he and what size frame did he have?

very helpful!!

Where can I get that CMU kit?...

"It was good to illustrate just how important these tiny changes can be" Huh... This is what the video was about? Interesting... I thought it was going to teach me how to set my saddle height to the millimeter... Wonder how I could've gotten that impression.

Where do i find a bike fit like this in my state!!

I run my speed play cleats as far back as they'll go on my shoes.

What is the cause of having heal pain so to be exact under my heal feels sore after riding and taking a rest when i get up sometimes under my heal does be sore but not that much that i can’t walk . But enough so that i need real soft flip flops to walk around in.

That's amazing. You must be booked up fitting peoples bikes

The industry needs to stop quoting stack and reach as the only two fundamentals in transferable bike fitting. This isn't enough because it has no datum. You really need to include the third and most important variable, seat tube angle, to know where abouts you reach lies with respect to the BB.

Almost going crazy about bike fit.sometimes i think about selling my wheels for going bike fit :).

I will do this at home now, thank you for the tip... Then again of course the information is good but what should I do with it, really?

I have a external hemoroid on the right butt cheek Any solutions would be great

Since my saddle is rather low for my inseam length (90 cm vs. 80 cm) I wondered whether this has got somesthing to do with my cleat position which I thought was a litte bit towards the middle of my foot. Yesterday I adjusted my cleats about 1.5 mm to the forefoot and increased saddle height by 2 mm. I am unsure, whether I should keep this position and try to adapt as it felt slightly unsual yesterday. Could you please comment on the influence of cleat position on pedal stroke, saddle height, etc. in general?

Not very useful. Help us diagnose the symptoms most of us have."Not connected"?!?! What does that mean.

Strava

I like your videos, but very misleading title mate!

i never change anything on my bike, too risky to alter my fit

Cleats... hehe

No help

so basically, from a regular cyclists point of view, it's going to be impossible to set your seat height correctly outside of a laboratory. What a pointless video.

The real solution, do you own bike fit. This is all a bunch of nonsense. I have been riding for 55 years and have never had an injury (sans hitting the deck), and I have done all my own fittings, from no clips, clips, clip less, rode bikes mountain bikes, even my motorcycles. So forget all this nonsense, and do your own fittings.

You didn't teach us anything, you just told us what you did, not why, or how you arrived at doing it. Its basically a commercial for your business, 'bring me your bike and have me do it for you for a fee" is what you are basically saying. Just trying to pass off as a teaching video, you are a salesman, not a teacher

" Elite level collegiate " on a 6 kg bike sure as hell not on my training bike before the races an alloy 30 lbs road bike. Cycling on a 6 kg bike is great but you sure as hell are not going to increase your leg strenght on that kind of weight. No joke and no offence that Cyclist on a 50 km course with a 30 lbs road bike would get dropped in the first km of the race against me at 39 an do only amateur races lol.

This video doesn't really help. It just says :come to me for bike fitting, I'm so smart.

This does nothing for a regular guy.