How Naruto Failed Its Female Characters

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Sage's Rain

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Taking a look at how the women of Naruto were, in my opinion, poorly written.
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SOURCES:
Manga's Cultural Crossroads (Jacqueline Berndt, Bettina Kümmerling-Maibauer, Yukari Fujimoto, 2013)
In the Name of the Moon: Female Mangaka and the Manga
Industry (Sarah G. Daughterty, 2020)
Queering Black Jack: A Look at How the Manga Industry Adapts to changing Reader Demographics (Jessica Bauwens-Sugimoto, 2016)
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White Palace (Hollow Knight)
Moonlight Talk (Naruto)
Little Song (Naruto)
Setting Sun (Naruto)
Intro: 0:00 - 2:04
Fighting Men & Healing Women: 2:04-4:42
Sakura: 4:42-8:46
Hinata: 8:46-11:58
Others: 12:00-14:51
Closing Remarks: 14:51-18:22
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@SagesRain
@SagesRain 3 жыл бұрын
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@sesereddead465
@sesereddead465 3 жыл бұрын
Great video like always! What will you do after this?
@devildolphin2102
@devildolphin2102 3 жыл бұрын
One of Kishimoto greatest problems wasn’t even that he couldn’t write woman. It was he couldn’t write characters who didn’t have Sharingan or Harshirama cancer. I mean Rock Lee, Temari, Neji, Anko were very similar. They had a Few Episodes just dedicated to them that made them AWESOME and fan favorites. But then they are forgotten about. Hell I’d say Kishimoto is very true to Gender Equality. Every side character is forgotten about or shafted no matter their Gender or looks.
@reacher5153
@reacher5153 3 жыл бұрын
I all ways proseaved this as the ww2 or Korean war in the timeline women all be yes in the war not in the front line boroto being modern-day
@sarveshnathan7559
@sarveshnathan7559 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. Can't wait for a Sasuke vid.
@daytimelantern6570
@daytimelantern6570 3 жыл бұрын
Have you/would you consider waching "Monster" I know I"m not a patreon or anything but Monster is a great anime it's produced by madhouse or was
@onewayticket2148
@onewayticket2148 3 жыл бұрын
How poetic of Kishimoto to have Kushina declare that she wants to become the first female hokage, only to have her end up being the housewife to the future hokage smh
@meanwhileinmyhead1877
@meanwhileinmyhead1877 3 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it now, Sarada is going to get the exact same treatment. Even if by some miracle she manages to hold the office, she's going to be second fiddle to Boruto as the actual de-facto protector of the village.
@shadenox8164
@shadenox8164 3 жыл бұрын
It might have been workable if it was at least an open secret that Kushina was just as involved with the work as Minato even if she didn't technically have the title.
@WeirdTale
@WeirdTale 3 жыл бұрын
Tsunade counts as a Hokage to me and always will.
@WeirdTale
@WeirdTale 3 жыл бұрын
She wasn't a housewife. Minato seems to be doing most of the house work even before she becomes pregnant. Even then If she hadn't changed her mind at one point I think Minato would have supported her if she continued.
@donazs739
@donazs739 3 жыл бұрын
@@WeirdTale tsunades fear is freaking blood. Just to have her shiver? I love her, she is badass. And terumei is kinda like that but it’s not enough.
@valerievedette9542
@valerievedette9542 3 жыл бұрын
If shojo anime can write developed male characters then shounen can write developed female characters.
@SilverAukahzy
@SilverAukahzy 3 жыл бұрын
this, right here.
@marajade9573
@marajade9573 3 жыл бұрын
Fullmetal alchemist was written by a woman and has two male protagonists full of depth. Kishimoto has no excuse.
@xi108bilqisirbahfatimah5
@xi108bilqisirbahfatimah5 3 жыл бұрын
@@marajade9573 THIS
@raz8770
@raz8770 3 жыл бұрын
Demon slayer was written by a woman too
@mirroredhour
@mirroredhour 3 жыл бұрын
PREACH 👏👏👏👏👏
@JacF6734
@JacF6734 Жыл бұрын
The "shounen is for young men so the female characters don't have to be complex" excuse always makes me laugh considering how the most poorly written female characters in shounen also tend to be the most hated by that same audience
@sla_2023
@sla_2023 Жыл бұрын
in their mind "only boys like shounen" 🤓
@mohammedu7105
@mohammedu7105 9 ай бұрын
It's also completely false, one piece for instance has a lot of female fans. I think one piece handles the women better (although it still has it's issues).
@hieutv5109
@hieutv5109 9 ай бұрын
​@@mohammedu7105 That is also the reason I like onepiece , they actually made female character relevant to the plot like without them luffy can't become the pirate king
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD 9 ай бұрын
@@mohammedu7105 This. I was pleasantly surprised at how fleshed out the female characters are, especially right off the bat with Nami. Like you said there's still some obvious flaws but I ended up loving way more of the female cast than I was expecting for a popular shounen.
@itstimeforafuckingcrusade
@itstimeforafuckingcrusade 8 ай бұрын
​@hieutv5109 Eiichro made an extremely wise decision with his female characters. It's obvious from the start that Nami would not be able to keep up with the starting crew in terms of strength and fighting ability, but the writer substitutes this by giving her an extremely important role in the crew. Her being the navigator is virtually the backbone of the straw hats' accomplishment of their goal. Without her, Luffy and Co wouldn't have made it to the grandline. Same with Robin, even though her devil fruit has potential, she plays a very important role in that she is the archeologist and one of the very few people who can read ponygliphs. Without her, Luffy is not making it to Raftel, making her an extremely crucial character to the story.
@Rusty-Doll_0
@Rusty-Doll_0 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really telling that Shikamaru, a side character gets a more compelling and memorable character arc that anything Sakura, a MAIN protagonist ever did
@Jo-zx9fz
@Jo-zx9fz Жыл бұрын
The only thing that could have saved her character was moving on from obsessive crush but 😭😭😭😭
@stormnightmare4378
@stormnightmare4378 Жыл бұрын
@@Jo-zx9fz With the way the other girls were written, moving on from her crush would just have removed her from the narrative completely. Just look at Tenten. She’s one of the few female characters who’s personality isn’t “I’m in love with this guy” (even though she had some romantic potential with Neji) and she literally had 0 screen time or relevance.
@Jo-zx9fz
@Jo-zx9fz Жыл бұрын
@@stormnightmare4378 that's really sad if legendary characters like Minato and sakumo hatake exists , why can't there be female characters like that. Tsunade is the only one with that perspective but even then everyone associates her with jiraiya. Now i can see sarada and sumire pushed to that same stupid Love theme, where they both are potential characters of having a good storyline with romance not being the main priority.
@maxsisters3793
@maxsisters3793 Жыл бұрын
@@Jo-zx9fz Sakura really love Sasuke. Even Kakashi and Naruto said her feelings are true. But relationship is toxic. Yes. Sasuke trying to kill her and Karin and they loved him after that
@theprinceofdarkness3250
@theprinceofdarkness3250 Жыл бұрын
Kishimoto liked Shikamaru quite a lot so that is the reason why he continued to develop him even through Shippuden. And I'm saying this because many other memebers of Konoha 12 had their moments during the original Naruto but were totally left out in Shippuden except for Shikamaru.
@alvinanis3006
@alvinanis3006 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's bad when your main female character's goal is based around trying to build a romantic relationship with one of the main male characters. I love Naruto as a series but Kishimoto's excuses for not being able to write female characters just doesn't sit right with me.
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 3 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t know he doesn’t know.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 3 жыл бұрын
Even Oda, who also has some sexist ideas (I say, even as a massive fan of his work who respects the man as a writer otherwise), is capable of writing women with more dimensions to them than "wants to kiss a dude". Hell, he even has a better written female big bad than Kishimoto too.
@alvinanis3006
@alvinanis3006 3 жыл бұрын
@@donrog5035 That's not an excuse if you're writing for a big company like Shounen though.
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 3 жыл бұрын
@@alvinanis3006 it’s not as if he didn’t warn us. He told us he doesn’t know how to write female character. Indeed it’s not an excuse but you can’t blame a man who knows his limits.
@ayoogunsakin9223
@ayoogunsakin9223 3 жыл бұрын
He’s better now, I hear.
@pumpkinbaron9916
@pumpkinbaron9916 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, Kishimoto also stated that if Sakura did move on from Sasuke, she wold be ‘a terrible woman’. Like what?! I mean, goodness forbid she stop chasing after the guy who treated her like shit for at least 99% of the second series.
@pumpkinbaron9916
@pumpkinbaron9916 3 жыл бұрын
*Would be
@breezybee777
@breezybee777 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, he said that!?
@pumpkinbaron9916
@pumpkinbaron9916 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently so. Even if he didn’t, the implication that somebody could put you through utter hell but you’re the bad guy if you stop pursuing them is still very present.
@naveenjacob2440
@naveenjacob2440 3 жыл бұрын
@@pumpkinbaron9916 I think it was more so he was interested in making Sakura become interested in Naruto, but then thought that people would dislike her because she only became interested in Naruto wehn he became the hero
@halehydraa
@halehydraa 3 жыл бұрын
Sakura would go full on akatsuki if she did move on. But I think it would be better for her because she then will have more character development.
@annett5
@annett5 2 жыл бұрын
Even Sakura punching Sasuke or at least yelling at him could have been good character development
@annett5
@annett5 2 жыл бұрын
@Ghost Town looking at the way kishi failed his female characters, we all can say it WOULD be a development but not an impact. However, if he was interested in sakura, he would have created a great story for her, made her influence and be a part of it, not a decoration
@annett5
@annett5 2 жыл бұрын
@Ghost Town I know, but she had a potential because a lot of shinobis praised her abilities (chakra control, genjutsu, iq, power, success in studying before becoming a genin) and her character could have represented the ideas of "love yourself", "a hard work beats talent", "don't compare yourself to others" and so on. As Sakura already existed, she should have affected the story just like her comrades. However, we didn't see it unfortunately
@annett5
@annett5 2 жыл бұрын
@Ghost Town we all know kishimoto created everything on the run
@SqualorOpera
@SqualorOpera 2 жыл бұрын
I spent the whole time I was watching hoping she’d deck him and go “Fuck you, emo boy. You look like a piece of cheese.” Or something to a stronger effect
@annett5
@annett5 2 жыл бұрын
@Ghost Town agreed cause it was the only time she shone in the series. The 3rd movie is a filler, however she's imba there too
@culturedhuman8044
@culturedhuman8044 2 жыл бұрын
The "Shounen is for younger men" isn't an excuse to create trash female characters. Jujutsu Kaisen is an anime targetted towards younger men too but the female characters still had their own interesting personalities and stood out (Nobara, Maki, etc.).
@venturoushope2846
@venturoushope2846 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, yeah. Seven Deadly Sins is obviously targeted towards a younger male audience, and yet Escanor is written to be emotionally dependent on Merlin. Elizabeth has actual powers, and the demon lady from the Ten Commandments (forgot her name, but the one with the golden blond hair) has actual ambitions and “avenger” tendencies.
@foxeye245
@foxeye245 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose not writing a good female character should deserve the death penalty.
@venturoushope2846
@venturoushope2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@foxeye245 Who said that?
@foxeye245
@foxeye245 2 жыл бұрын
@@venturoushope2846 If there is no good excuse for writing a bad character, then writing a bad character becomes unforgivable doesn’t it?
@venturoushope2846
@venturoushope2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@foxeye245 Yeah, unless you improve your writing style. Are you being sarcastic?
@hallechoi189
@hallechoi189 3 жыл бұрын
"You can be a shy, anxious and passive person but you can be shy or anxious and still be strong, still be motivated, still have dreams..."
@muchiha6428
@muchiha6428 3 жыл бұрын
Searching for love and acceptance that you don't get from your family is not a dream? Wanting to change yourself and become less passive and more confident isn't a dream? Hinata loved Naruto because she wanted to change.
@miss_chelles1338
@miss_chelles1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@muchiha6428 but... that doesn't have anything to do with naruto... Actually no. think about all this way: if Naruto died or ended up with someone else (because that's his right to do so), what would you think happen to hinata?
@miss_chelles1338
@miss_chelles1338 3 жыл бұрын
@Yʊӄǟʀɨ Yǟӄʊʍօ well dang...
@muchiha6428
@muchiha6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@miss_chelles1338 Naruto is the source of her confidence, how does he not have anything to do with her? He inspired her to change. If Naruto ended up with someone else, Hinata would accept it. She literally did so in the last movie once she saw Naruto wearing his moms scarf.
@muchiha6428
@muchiha6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@janinebelleestrada7096 Hinata accomplished all her dreams, she changed just like she wanted to and became more confident. "Like seriously i expected her to not only be a good mother but also something more but no" It was her dream to have a healthy and happy family and raise children in a sheltered and protective environment. A chance that she missed as a kid, so she wants to give that love for her children.
@rayssarivera7512
@rayssarivera7512 3 жыл бұрын
just because it’s targeted towards young men doesn’t mean they can’t write good female characters. that mindset is exactly why these stereotypes are perpetuated.
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 3 жыл бұрын
this! Especially when you take into account the fact that there are LOTS of stories targeted at women that have well-written male characters. Not all obviously, but in mangas for instance, Mamoru from Sailor Moon is such a great character. He has a lot of depth, and he's such a great guy that I can see a lot of young girls wanting to date him. I've noticed that female writers TEND to make better male love interest because they want to write people that the female audience would connect with on a personal level, so they give him depth and an endearing personality (like even the cliché bad boy always turns ou to have a heart of gold and a sad backstory which give him depth). Basic male authors on the other hand make female love interest extremely shalow, just good looking and heplessly devoted to some guy. It's as if they think that's all a man could ever value in a partner, whereas female authors tend to think women value a man who has clear positive character traits beyond being cute. It reflects so poorly on men in general, when stories suposedly written for them shit out bad female characters like this. If as a man you don't feel offended that there is an entire industry that believes you're just an ape who likes big boobs and want a personal servant for life rather than an equal, well maybe you're just as trash as the industry thinks you are lol.
@zzzohmy
@zzzohmy 3 жыл бұрын
@Elisa Soh EXACTLY. The argument that it’s written for boys fails on at least two fronts: the one you described, and the fact a large portion of the readership is comprised of women and girls.
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
@@KookiesNolly I talked about this with my sister
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 3 жыл бұрын
It's such a weird thing to say, too. I mean, most stories aren't written for horses or cars or medieval Europe, but we wouldn't use that as an excuse to write these in a boring, lazy manner. Or are they implying that they believe their readers will never be around women enough to know the difference?
@ablebodied175
@ablebodied175 3 жыл бұрын
@@KookiesNolly there are plenty of shows with developed female characters like One piece. Naruto is not the be all end all of and the exact shounen.
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de Жыл бұрын
The whole bit about women being the healers was so infuriating to me, cuz Tsunade did mention that training medical ninjas was hard because they needed to have perfect chakra control + memorizing lots of studies. Wouldn't it have made more sense to make Shikamaru the healer of the Ino-Shika-Cho trio? Considering he's already the smartest person there. Hinata and Neji could've both learned healing techniques too considering they can literally see the flow of chakra and arguably make the healing better, but instead they just made the technique exclusive to the female characters, Ino, Rin, Granny Chiyo, etc.
@BroJo676
@BroJo676 Жыл бұрын
Ino is a medical nin in the anime only. In the manga, homegirl is not.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 11 ай бұрын
It is genuinely weird that Hinata and Neji aren't healers. It seems like they should be *perfect* for it
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 10 ай бұрын
Ino with her family technique was more suited to learning under Ibiki, the interrogation specialist, than Tsunade. She seems more like the gossip girl who would constantly gather info on everyone around her. Heck, I'm surprised Kabuto's info cards in the chuunin exams didn't inspire her to do something similar.
@netero1682
@netero1682 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps if he made Hinata or Neji medical ninjas overshadow Sakura, Neji would surely have been superior, and Hinata by genetic advantage could develop more power than Sakura, Hinata's personality was more suitable as a medical Ninja. In fact, Sakura was given powers for battle, because without that she would be even more inconsequential.
@netero1682
@netero1682 9 ай бұрын
@@InfernosReaper Neji would surely have been a medical ninja much superior to Sakura, and Hinata would surely have at least equaled Sakura, basically, they took away the only thing in which Sakura would excel and be of good support.
@ramonashih1349
@ramonashih1349 Жыл бұрын
And not to mention the fact that motherly relationships are almost nonexistant in naruto. Who is Kakashi's mom? Guy's mom? Sasuke was so focused on gaining his father's approval but didn't care much about his mom. Ino, shika, and cho's dads were all on the battlefield and had moments with their kids. What about their moms?
@palakkumari112
@palakkumari112 Жыл бұрын
well ...its clear female characters were the last thing the writer was interested in .....the amount of work and thought put into each male character main or supporting and their back stories is admiring on the other hand the writer didn't even care to think that in the world of shinobi is it even possible that not even one woman exits who is worthy to die a Sinobi's death ?? .....even though so many female characters had great abilities and also grew together with male characters .....Not even one had good reason to be remembered by fans ...except Tunade the mighty hokage who also in the end was shown emotionally weak and was unable to fight on the battlefield even after she herself was a lord hokage .......its even noticed that woman image is only of " chasing after man " .....as in the video described ...woman are only there to be seen as lovers, wives, mothers ....but the writer did not even clearly explored these roles as u stated in your comment NARUTO is my fav series i absolutely love the characters but i doubt if writer intended to write a bromance material but had to add female characters bc of pressure 😅
@mlampre88
@mlampre88 Жыл бұрын
Gaara and Naruto have more mother's moments than any other and their mothers died newlyborns...
@sapphicwriter
@sapphicwriter Жыл бұрын
The only mom I can remember that didn’t die and/or wasn’t just a housewife trope was Kiba’s mom and she’s barely shown.
@lounielouna7556
@lounielouna7556 Жыл бұрын
No cuz I've literally always asked where is everyone mom??
@rayofhope971
@rayofhope971 Жыл бұрын
And we've almost never seen Hinata's mom 💀
@beebunzz5328
@beebunzz5328 3 жыл бұрын
They gave hinata literal GOD CHAKRA and didn’t do anything with that
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
in a movie kishi did not write though so...thats the issue..he only did designs for that film and gave them some ideas to use when asked like the scarf storyline...he had no input on the actual story of the film it seems...kishi is sexist and did not use her right...he literally could give a crap about pairings or hinata i have noticed...like to him shes not even a top 20 character clearly...he barley used her in the manga..chapter 700 she is not even shown with her husband showing us how much he cares about the pairs smdh he did the same with sakura ino temari and ten ten so this man clearly did not care about ships......the anime usually gives her more canon material since she will go years without being even shown in the manga.....which is a shame since like a lot of the exam characters she helped bring in most of his fanbase..no one read the first arc of the manga originally..it did not gain popularity until all the teams were shown in chapter 29 of the exams arc..thats when like 80% of the fanbase was formed cause you could relate to a team or kid character or sensei or main villain as the cast grew since the first arc is so limited in the manga to team 7 iruka hiruzen and the smaller villains....this is why people hate kishi..
@joooecool
@joooecool 3 жыл бұрын
@@razkable Sadly enough Kishi actually doesn't care for the ships. He originally expressed not wanting any of the characters to end up together but was pressured by his company to appease the fans that wanted pairings. Which is very much expressed in the way they are portrayed in Boruto.
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage 3 жыл бұрын
@@razkable ok ?😐
@eugene9211
@eugene9211 3 жыл бұрын
Because the story's not about Hinata. Kishimoto wasn't interested in expanding anything about her character, and as such he didn't. He writes most of the important characters as guys because... I don't know, he's a guy and he has an easier time writing guys than he does girls, or because it's marketed towards young men. While yeah there's a female playerbase, they're a vastly smaller contingent that he's not going to pander to by changing his story.
@fandemanga3378
@fandemanga3378 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugene9211 the thing is it may not be about a character but that shouldn't mean you dont' keep in Line with the other characters. Don't give ability and start of development that should change them. Don't give them powerful ability and dna that should make them more relevant to story and power wise. DON'T NERF THEM TO MAKE OTHER SEEMS POWERFUL (mainly Sakura, every girls suffered that at some point, even more noticiable in boruto). That just show that you don't Care about character you introduced or don't know how to. Then don't even start developping them. Manga like HxH or FMA are interessing because even if it's not about other the MC, the other character are consistant in their power most of Time. Mc are not the only being capable of Amazing powers.
@Jay-hb2mu
@Jay-hb2mu 3 жыл бұрын
i find it funny how naruto somehow manages to objectify women without sexualizing them for the most part.
@tonywentworth9652
@tonywentworth9652 3 жыл бұрын
Because the main character never matured past 12.
@WeirdTale
@WeirdTale 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Though it should be noted that the whole Female Sexuality/Attractiveness=Weakness and Subservience is a very Mediteranian and Arabic idea. Japanese women traditionally where seen to be dangerous when beautiful and if not forced to be bound by duty or servitude could seduce and compell all men to do their bidding. Basically Ancient Arabs, Persians, and Mediteranian Europeans we're more likely to understimate women wile the Japanese feared what they could do if freed. At least that is how I interpret plenty of old legends from all of those cultures.
@blackmage665
@blackmage665 3 жыл бұрын
I mean...Lets look at some of the adult female characters of the show. Tsunade, despite being a drunken lout when we need her, is still pretty and rocking insane tits and a great figure, though we learn that she doesn't actually look this way, and uses her ability to stay young looking. there might be some personal justification in universe, but that's ALL kishimoto. Konan is barely a character, she could have been a doll made by Nagato and it would not have changed all that much, to go with the Yahiko doll or whatever. The snake lady wears a trenchcoat and firnexts, has huge tits and is constantly being bound and bitten. This is again, a recurring theme that while not shouting "PORN!" is always in the name of fan service. Again, all Kishimoto.
@blackmage665
@blackmage665 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandname I think you are confusing a character being sexual and a character being sexualized. The former is an internal thing that is a defiing trait, and other people in universe should notice and probably have some sort of opinion on it, regardless of whether or not it's stated to the viewer. The Latter is something done for the audience, and doesn't really add anything to the character aside from the fact that they look and good are put into fan service moments. Also, notice how you even phrase it yourself, a character "being sexualized", is an external force that could probably be removed and the character in quesiton loses nothing of value, where as some very sexual characters would lose some core part of them. Jiraiya is an old man who is a sexual deviant, it's a defining character trait and he would lose something important to who he is if that were removed, but Tsunade being sexualized doesn't alter her character at all, neither does he having huge boobs that are basically out there for the world to see. Her specific sexualization flies in the face of her more competent and noble parts, and her vanity and insecuirty about her true looks never really play a role in her character as a downside, it's just treated in the series that it's a twist for the audience that she isn't actually some hot milf type and uses power to look good. That doesn't do anything in universe, that's all for the audience. I don't know much about red sonja aside from that it seems like a conan ripoff, and that whole thing is about how muscles are better than armor, and looking good comes from that, so the best I can really say is that what you said is a flimsy and lame way to say "We want to show off nearly naked people, don't question it"
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywentworth9652 I don’t think the women being objectified has anything to do with Naruto’s mental maturity. They were objectified even when he wasn’t around. Lol
@kaossilator8545
@kaossilator8545 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't only fail its female characters. It also failed its worldbuilding. People wonder why almost every hero or villain is/was a konoha ninja. Well, it's because it's the only place we ever visited. We barely saw the other nations or clans. Most of the time it's about Konoha and some Uchiha on steroids causing trouble. Now it's technically about aliens, but I still think about all the places we could have visited and all the non-Konoha characters that had so little screentime and development.
@razkable
@razkable 2 жыл бұрын
true..too many people focus on the female characters because they hate most of them or feel let down by the few they liked....what about the other flaws?..its not a perfect story
@ProlificPops
@ProlificPops 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else pointed this out. I wanted part of Shippuden to focus on Naruto building a relationship with the Jinchuriki from the other nations. Hell, during the timeskip, Naruto and Jiraiya could've traveled to the other lands for Naruto to train and during that journey, he could've made friends with the other Jinchuriki so they could be relevant in Shippuden and have actual screentime. They all had such cool designs but the only one's we got to know, besides Naruto, are Gaara and Killer Bee (Utakata too but that was a filler arc so it doesn't count). And we really aren't introduced to the other nations in the series until the end of it all in preparation for the War Arc. Such wasted potential on learning about so many cool characters and other villages and lands.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
At least filler remedies some of this by including threats that are from other nations or are rogue ninja with alliances to no region
@sffb8295
@sffb8295 2 жыл бұрын
I think about this too often. It would've been so interesting to see life outside of being a ninja, or what civilization is like outside hidden villages (which are hidden as stated in their name). I also wonder about how the political system works in the Narutoverse, beyond the five Kage we're aware of. Also, my mind is always constantly bamboozled on the technological advancement of the world the characters are living in because it's all over the place sometimes.
@J-manli
@J-manli 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProlificPops Naruto and Bleach have the same flaw of "introducing a cool concept, power, and or character for the sake of it being cool rather than introducing them organically into the story," Haki in One Piece was introduced in the very first chapter, with its interactions and utilization further developed as the story goes on.
@sapphicwriter
@sapphicwriter Жыл бұрын
Will never stop being so sad how Hinata could’ve been such an amazing representation for shy female characters but ended up just being one-dimensional and love obsessed.
@bunez69x
@bunez69x 9 ай бұрын
omg
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD 9 ай бұрын
God yes, I feel like she may have been one of the reasons so many male anime fans I knew in school were obsessed with the idea of having a "shy gf" who's world revolved around them lol
@AmitafAmitaf-lz2is
@AmitafAmitaf-lz2is 8 ай бұрын
They did my girl Hinata so dirty man 😭
@SteveCrafts2k
@SteveCrafts2k 7 ай бұрын
Is this manga seriously telling me she has no other goals in life? No aspirations, no dreams, no ambitions? She only wants to be a housewife, and that's it? That's seriously the full extent of her life's goal?
@joshbotofborg2577
@joshbotofborg2577 3 жыл бұрын
Kishimoto: Men Fight, Women heal. Katara from Avatar: ...I'll be outside, if your man enough to fight me.
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason why I wish female characters in Naruto were more like Avatar the last airbender.
@supreme_king_obama1158
@supreme_king_obama1158 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingnamor7777 the amazing thing is, katara was not only a competent battler, but a competent healer as well. So it’s not like those two things are impossible to put together. Not to mention I feel like the first couple episodes in the North Pole were specifically jabbing as Naruto and other shonen from the time (not sure if it was intentional but it was definitely a jab)
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 3 жыл бұрын
@@supreme_king_obama1158I always felt the scene was more towards general treatment on women at that current time. Although I could be wrong. Either I admire Katara strength and willingness to do anything possible to become a water bending master and use her powers to save the world and fight back against the fire nation and those who oppose her friends.
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 3 жыл бұрын
@ꜱᴏꜰɪᴀ ᴍᴀɴᴛᴇɢᴀ I agree. Because Kishimoto should've definitely taken note from series like Avatar the last airbender, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood or any other notable anime or cartoon series that is highly praise for some its episodes and how they treat their female and male characters in general.
@adeleaslan8182
@adeleaslan8182 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingnamor7777 those are my two absolute favorite shows and these are the reasons why.
@Irose_YTBE
@Irose_YTBE 3 жыл бұрын
Hinata trained her whole life to be head of the Hyuga clan only to end up being Naruto's housewife I hate it here 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@opaluni
@opaluni 3 жыл бұрын
Hinata gave up on being head of the Hyuga clan early. She trained her whole life to be Naruto's possible waifu. Lol If she tried learning politics or was shown independently taking up the mantle of heiress w/o succumbing to pressure. Learning how to overcome and work with her weaknesses, show any interest in the main and lower branch dynamics and etc... To eventually challenge Hanabi for her title back....then it would've mattered. Only after that could we say she trained her whole life to be heiress. Hinata's never shown doing anything substantial for other people. I would've loved to see her actually give a shit about her relationship with her sister. By trying to be the best she could be and not want her younger sister weighed by the responsibility of heiress. Yet Hinata ditched personal responsibility faster than you can blink. Lol She never cared about being heiress, standing up to Hiashi, or validating Neji's anguish towards his eventual fate. I hated that chic before the war, but especially afterwards... Neji dies and she instead thinks of Naruto's big manly hand. Her ultimate dream was dating Naruto. Not Neji ever dying or succeeding in being a confident yet demure heiress.
@Irose_YTBE
@Irose_YTBE 3 жыл бұрын
@@opaluni yea thats what I am saying. She wasn't well written
@bladerman4850
@bladerman4850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Irose_YTBE You wanting a character to have different motivations than they have isn't bad writing. If she was never planned to want to do those things, her... not doing those things or not wanting them isn't a bad thing. She bettered herself for someone, and she decided that they were more important than other things. That happens sometimes.
@Irose_YTBE
@Irose_YTBE 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladerman4850 "she bettered herself for someone" that's the problem. This video literally addresses why this was an issue. It's sexist writing that all the female characters have to be in some way subservient and tethered to the men. They are not written to have their own goals or aspirations that aren't tied to men, and Hinata is a prime example of this.
@bladerman4850
@bladerman4850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Irose_YTBE You can say that about many characters in this show male and female. That obsession with changing yourself for another and improving for them is explained before Hinata even enters the show. Haku with Zabuza, and the connection between Naruto and Sasuke in that arc. That is a common motif of the show, and doesn't really have anything to do with gender. Both healthily and unhealthily doing so and exploring that relationship is a pretty big part of the show. I've never thought of it as a gendered issue, and I don't see why you would, women can have people they live for and want to help just as much as men.
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with Sakura is that her starting off as an airhead could have just been a starting point because she is 12 and inexperienced, but she pretty much stays that way throughout the whole series. Hinata is also a big disappointment because she had a solid backstory and her motivation could have been her wanting to change the system of her clan' after Neji's pain under it, or to surpass her father and prove her worth to him. To turn her original weakness and source of her rejection from her family and Neji's hatred in her compassion, into a strength for their clan... but nope. Its just Naruto. She only exists for Naruto.
@BroJo676
@BroJo676 Жыл бұрын
Sakura has a really big development in the manga, though. She's now a kagelevel kunoichi.
@darkgenius2002
@darkgenius2002 Жыл бұрын
@@BroJo676 Soy Pro Sakura Tiene mometos muy buenos, a la par de malos. Pero desarrollo no tuvo nada. O bueno casi nada, solo tuvo una pequeña evolución, que tras la aparición de Sasuke, y su batalla contra Sasori, ya no aparece más. Convirtiendo esa evolución en montón de cosas vacias y en un personaje de papel y cartón
@shadowbladesabre1945
@shadowbladesabre1945 Жыл бұрын
@@BroJo676 being a physically strong character (which Sakura is) doesn't make them strong from a writing standpoint. She's kage-level but her existence still revolves around Naruto and Sasuke.
@dylanmccreary2164
@dylanmccreary2164 Жыл бұрын
@@BroJo676 Becoming powerful isn't character development. If that's her only development over time, then just puts her, one of the three main characters, on par with Kiba and Choji as a character.
@BroJo676
@BroJo676 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowbladesabre1945 Sakura's character development started with her realizing how of a burden she was to her teammates, Sasuke and Naruto. She used to be the bratty and pointless weakling who would always be talking ish instead being the ish. Eventually, she self-inspected, accepting all of her flaws and shortcomings to easily distance herself from those, working her ass off as Tsunade's personal trainee, educating herself better and stronger, and taking on bigger challenges. She wanted to prove herself as well as her teammates, that she no longer was that burden they had to put up with back in the day. That's growth and even Ino, her "rival", came to acknowledging that change during their Chunin Exam fight. Sakura showed herself strong-willed enough to nullify Ino's Spirit Possession jutsu (the only person in the entire series so far who's achieved such a feat). That's even the reason why Inner Sakura had started fading out of the manga little by little (Shippuden's first chapter being its last appearance) since Sakura's training eventually had her mature into a young woman comfortable enough in herself, her abilities, and her opinions. I'm not even going to mention Kakashi noting Sakura's growth in the Shippuden's first episode and during the Shinobi War. You're free to dislike Sakura but denying she's been through growth just like Naruto, Sai, or Hinata equates to actively ignoring Kishimoto's writing effort...
@makaylahall2664
@makaylahall2664 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke being in love with Naruto is more believable than Sasuke loving Sakura
@zeninmaki1226
@zeninmaki1226 Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about that too :d
@francisconavarrete3031
@francisconavarrete3031 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke wasn't in love with Sakura unt he realize how much she loved him ,u need to read their novel to understand it
@milkmatcha3698
@milkmatcha3698 Жыл бұрын
​@@francisconavarrete3031 doesn't make it good. if a series has to rely on obscure spin-off, where mainstream viewers/readers are less likely to see then its as good as a filler episode. its like JK Rowling giving pre-existing characters certain race or traits on her tweets when it was never mentioned in the book series when its all obvious retcons just to justify things to happen.
@francisconavarrete3031
@francisconavarrete3031 Жыл бұрын
@@milkmatcha3698 it does , light novels in Japan tell u all the things the characters are thinking, remember kishismoto was only doing what he was told during the time he was in Shonen jump romance was a big thing and most fans didn't like the romance but he did had a big female fan base so he wanted to incorporate it to the story buthis editor and higher up told him where story should go and how to do it . That what's always happened in Shonen jump if u know any thing about jump u should know they can cancel a series anything ,Naruto most likely wouldn't of but they were afraid to lose viewers,that why he made Naruto gaiden
@subratanandy2142
@subratanandy2142 9 ай бұрын
Sasuke only had Sakura because no sane woman would take him ; and Karin is insane and sexually depraved ..😂 so he had to marry Sakura , the only person who will put up with his bs .
@zerominiatures4676
@zerominiatures4676 3 жыл бұрын
Bothered me beyond belief that they all became housewives
@sageseeker9197
@sageseeker9197 3 жыл бұрын
Ino didn't she's the head of the intelligence division and Yamanaka clan. But you wouldn't be able to tell bc it's never brought up. Sakura is the head medical shinobi in the hospital, yet once again.... never brought up or focused on.
@zerominiatures4676
@zerominiatures4676 3 жыл бұрын
@@sageseeker9197 well shit
@dreamingblue3939
@dreamingblue3939 3 жыл бұрын
It seemed so out of character. Temari offends me the most because she was my favorite female character in the first two shows and in Boruto she's reduced to an abusive tsundere mom cliche who has nothing better to do than to stay home and nag her husband and kid. And that's another thing I can't stand about Boruto... Way to ruin your only decently-written and somewhat understandable romantic relationship, Kishimoto. -_-
@lessermook7608
@lessermook7608 3 жыл бұрын
Sakura shoulda been Vice to Narutos leadership.
@muchiha6428
@muchiha6428 3 жыл бұрын
Literally what's wrong with being a housewife? It even makes narrative sense for some characters like Hinata who grew up in a strict family with no love to be the one who gives love and take care of 3 kids. Other females only have being housewives as side jobs while their main is serving the village in some way.
@justasentientmclarenp1879
@justasentientmclarenp1879 3 жыл бұрын
The female characters in naruto had so much potential
@drago7317
@drago7317 3 жыл бұрын
Thats facts
@jeremiahmiller6431
@jeremiahmiller6431 3 жыл бұрын
That is what frustrates me the most about the franchise. So much potential, wasted.
@Midnight-Starfish
@Midnight-Starfish 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lanipator put it best in their Naruto Ninja Storm 4: Road to Boruto playthrough when talking about Himawari. "Bort, you'll be one of the most powerful ninja the village has ever known. Himawari, you'll make a great housewife."
@Bloodgaze
@Bloodgaze 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Who had potential? Who right out of the eight gates made you go "now this is a well written female character. I can't wait to see where they go with her"? Who had that potential. Ino? Sakura? Hinata is about the only charterer I can think of that sort of tried to have an arc, but even she started as mumbles. Maybe I'm missing the really good female character that was really well written at the start of the show. And fuck. You know how many people I see bitching about sakura and Hinata being housewives? Are you fucking kidding me? We watched a planet sucking tree devour everyone, demigod animal transformations, multiple dimensions, and cutting the moon in half. Fuck that. If I didn't have plot armour I would have quit and been a housewife too. Fuck that kaiju shit. I like cooking. Fucking female characters were the smart ones. They saw what was out there and were like "all yours boys". I'm gonna go chill with the kids and make a bitching stew.
@flexjohnson18
@flexjohnson18 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bloodgaze there’s no real life representation of the female characters people clamor for. I’ve been to war, several times and yes there were girls who left the wire but it’s still like 10% and most were medics, sorry I would never let a woman run in front of me into a blaze of gunfire. Gender roles are there for a reason and westerners love picking and choosing which to leave in place the ones that costs men and benefit women particularly
@smallersketchy8203
@smallersketchy8203 2 жыл бұрын
I was so shocked when Temari because a housewife. She's like the exact opposite
@kalon2278
@kalon2278 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if anything shikamaru should be the housewife
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalon2278 househusband, and it would have actually fit his personality given that he was inclined to laziness and wanting to doze off. It would have made sense for him to do housework and chores, using his shadow possession jutsu to complete them and I can imagine a scene once he is done, he just goes lying down on grass and just sleeping
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
She’s not tho. She’s still a ninja, same as all the other kunoichi they’re all still officially ninjas as stated in novels and databooks
@cherilynsarts8845
@cherilynsarts8845 Жыл бұрын
She's actually still a ninja but she's still a mother
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
@@cherilynsarts8845 yeah same with the others ones as well
@anondescriptbullet
@anondescriptbullet Жыл бұрын
Another little detail is the fact that despite Kishimoto's love for tragic backstories, not a single female character has one, UNLESS they are as a feature piece to the more important male character. Konan? side piece for Nagato Rin? literally just there to die Kushina? again, basically just there to die, overshadowed by Minato Sakura? she barely even *has* a backstory just imagine what the team 7 dynamic could have been if Sakura's parents were abusive. it would've given another angle to the question about absent families: never having parents, having them cruelly ripped away from you, or having a family but one that is cruel and vindictive. Alas she get's a generic "girl next door" origin, with her mother being one of the most house-wife looking characters I've ever seen.
@baonguyenxuanthai711
@baonguyenxuanthai711 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%
@ekoyal_gemu4446
@ekoyal_gemu4446 Жыл бұрын
You people love to downplay female characters in Naruto
@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553
@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553 Жыл бұрын
@@ekoyal_gemu4446 "downplay" If you mean in power Scaling yes But in story?nope
@scotthayeswwe
@scotthayeswwe Жыл бұрын
Tsunade has a tragic backstory but other than that you're right
@visky_9659
@visky_9659 Жыл бұрын
​@@scotthayeswweher backstory is literally all about men and how much she misses them that she can't get over it like 40 years after
@chikitita6763
@chikitita6763 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no wonder one of my favorite female characters is Temari. She barely had screen time thus less chance to be badly written.
@istalkghosts497
@istalkghosts497 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that but she made sure shikamaru was worthy of her time and love by not making things too easy for him and if she has to be tough for his own sake she ain't stepping back. That's what makes a good woman. She knows her value and her worth. Shikamaru actually had to put in some work.
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage 3 жыл бұрын
@Yʊӄǟʀɨ Yǟӄʊʍօ kushina was a great character its sad she ended up being a housewife instead of being the hokage
@valeriansage
@valeriansage 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage why tf you have a problem with housewives like it's an easy task?? You want characters like Sasori's parent all ninja killed in an encounter....now tell me what happened to Sasori. It's like belittling your Mother's role ....y'all are bunch of buffoons.
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage
@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage 3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriansage no .Like why does every good character who is woman become a housewife instead of being a great ninja .Tamari Kushina Hinata were all good character who had potential but ended up beinf housewives .Like at least sakura and ino are doing something for the village
@chikitita6763
@chikitita6763 3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriansage I think the problem isn't being a housewife but that just about every fenale character becomes a house wife and that's it. No variation whatsoever. Kushina is also one of the women who had dreams of her own. It'd also be nice to see at least some of them achieve it, or anything that isn't a housewife for a change, although I already know dreams change.
@averagek-onenjoyer9224
@averagek-onenjoyer9224 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how they never talked about what hinatas father did to her or the affects it had. Even in boruto they were just sorta like "he used to be a little strict lol" when he litterally abandoned hinata when she was a child bc she was too weak. Neji got more time warming up to him then his actual daughter did.
@WeirdTale
@WeirdTale 3 жыл бұрын
I was pissed about that. You would think that once Naruto understood the details he wouldn't want anything to do with his in-laws. You would think that he would have taken a page from the shitty Third Hokage and pull with the Hyuga Clan what the Old Geezer pulled with the Uchiha Clan. I mean the only other person that he liked from that clan was Neji and he suffered the same fate he had been avoiding his whole damn life.
@tonguepop9453
@tonguepop9453 3 жыл бұрын
@@WeirdTale well remember naruto and hinata's relationship is based on bs so it's only natural that he wouldn't care about how his wife was treated lol
@WeirdTale
@WeirdTale 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonguepop9453 In a way yes, but in a way no. If Naruto had noticed Hinata's feelings for him when they were still Genin, or Hinata had grown a spine when they were 14 and declared her undying love for the boy that rebelled against the world that shunned him, while she was always afraid of the authority figures in her life then it could have worked. Basically instead of jerking us around with the Sasuke bullshit, Kishimoto could have had Team 7 and Team 8 do frequent assigned Espionage missions involving Shadow Clone and Byakugan shared reconnaissance for the Fire Country or something. Kishimoto had an insane amount of good tools and powers in his worlds sandbox but he didn't use them for any character progression and constantly relied on running gags. Naruto is a story told with decent art at the beginning with impressive moments at the start, but that latter did not payoff the way we expected. If anything even if it is a low bar Naruto is one of those few stories in the early 2000's where the girls and women for the most part are the ones that choose the guys they love and do not regret it later. None of that the guys make the first move and have to prove themselves to not be loosers to them. Or that any of the women are in abusive or bad relationships with "hot" but ultimately dumb and selfish men so they go with the more noble hero. Or that they view relationships as something completely bad and unnecessary so they forgo love all together until the "right" guy comes along and is convincing enough to prove them otherwise. The girls in Naruto at least choose and had good enough judgement that the long run it shows that they dot chose badly.
@allandm
@allandm 3 жыл бұрын
The whole hyuga plotline was just forgotten
@BIadelores
@BIadelores 3 жыл бұрын
@@WeirdTale That's because, for all of Naruto's grand speeches about changing the world, Naruto never actually changed anything. He pep talked and punched his way into making everyone submit and give up on warring (Sort of). Naruto never changed nor did even think about changing the actual fundamental issues of the world. He is the sort of person who thinks everything can be solved with a hug. Actually trying to grasp the complexities of the world goes far above his head. Of course, this is basically the same for most action shonen protagonists. But Naruto brought up a lot of interesting themes in the story and it never really went anywhere with them.
@sonder1109
@sonder1109 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up as a girl, while watching this series, I unconsciously was drawn to the male characters and didn’t fully realize why until I got older n realized how complex and interesting they were compared to the female characters who seemed annoying, frustrating and had bs motivations/goals…I’m very disappointed b/c I love this series but I can only imagine how epic it would’ve been if Kishimoto created multifaceted, complex female characters. Especially since girls already don’t have a lot of good representation in general😔
@razkable
@razkable 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with that is we only got a spinoff because of the roles kishi put his females into that we care about so it's a catch 22..that mattered to the narrative and milking post ending... the series focused on other things so splitting screen time would hurt the story and make you less of a fan of the males villians mentors past and the show would lose fans popularity and sell less...I am sorry but sakura was the only female with real screen time then tsuande barley but mostly sakura...everyone else came and went....I barley remember any dialogue between naruto and ino and he never speaks to ten ten in the manga neither did sasuke...she barley exists
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 2 жыл бұрын
He already wrote some complex female characters. Tsunade alone is one of the best in mainstream anime
@meangengar8053
@meangengar8053 Жыл бұрын
@@razkable excuse me? They could've just stop making useless and stupid fillers and focus on the actual writting, don't make up such weird excuses for an overrated anime.
@meangengar8053
@meangengar8053 Жыл бұрын
@@tactly5060 oh yeah, one male gazey and sexualized character. And others, that literally died. Cool.
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
@@meangengar8053 she’s not even sexualized that much. She has a big robe, not like she’s 100% exposed to us. And you’re simplifying her character down so much you completely ignored her development and character arc. And there’s still other females in the series with good writing along side her.
@september_rain
@september_rain 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sakura is the one who should've had a little sister. That would give her a perfect motivation to become strong and be a good role model and support for her sister. I can easily imagine her being kinda like Itachi to Sasuke but also kicking everyone's ass to keep her lil sister safe considering her temperament.
@karabo171
@karabo171 2 жыл бұрын
That would have been amazing
@Galvatronover
@Galvatronover 2 жыл бұрын
That’s intresting
@merinofanfic4717
@merinofanfic4717 2 жыл бұрын
and we could see sasuke toughs on that with sakura reminding him of itachi but also being totally diferent
@karabo171
@karabo171 2 жыл бұрын
@@merinofanfic4717 oh my god, the conflict would be amazing 😍😍.
@sofac8252
@sofac8252 Жыл бұрын
I bet She would still only care about sasuke's like she did in the whole manga
@balorthedreamer6792
@balorthedreamer6792 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably why Tenten was so neglected. She was meant to be a weapons, taijutsu specialist, and powerful combatant. But since Kishimoto can't write a strong and driven woman, she was the most neglected of the Konoha 11
@istalkghosts497
@istalkghosts497 3 жыл бұрын
I guarantee you kishimoto forgot all about ten ten and her capabilities.
@Vigriff
@Vigriff 3 жыл бұрын
And the most hilarious thing is that she's the only Naruto character to ever be an actual ninja.
@xuhc4638
@xuhc4638 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with ya
@edfaceeh7663
@edfaceeh7663 3 жыл бұрын
infact just the concept of Team Gai was really neglected I feel like a group of ninjas in naruto who dont just throw out jutsus constantly and actually make use of tools/taijutsu is cool as hell but instead almost all of them are just cast away and the focus turns to gai who is later thrown away after the war
@astronomical3342
@astronomical3342 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think any of you guys watched shippuden they shit on everyone not just females
@squigglypop8748
@squigglypop8748 3 жыл бұрын
What Kishimoto did too Hinata’s character pisses me off so much. I relate to her social anxiety and her fear of disappointing others a lot. I wanted too see her prove her father wrong and become a badass. It was so disappointing to watch what Kishimoto would do as the years went by.
@sakasusuk
@sakasusuk 3 жыл бұрын
It would've been WAY more interesting if she didn't end up with Naruto and it shows her independence to let go, could've been the same damn thing for sakura. But she's so emotionally reliant on him it gets annoying
@sakasusuk
@sakasusuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@MugdhaSharma2011 UM EXCUSE ME?! If that were true then why didn’t she become bad when Sasuke went missing for God knows how long. I’m just gonna give the benefit of the doubt and hope that the creator isn’t that dumb. lol. I also hate the underdeveloped relationships between these couples. Like what the video said, he believed in the chemistry brotherhood between sasuke and naruto MORE than the ‘canon’ couples now. There’s barely any build up for their growth, let alone their own character motivation as individuals. It sucks it had to be this way
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I trash all of them equally. In fact I kinda hate Hinata more because her character revolved solely around being noticed by "Naruto-kun", I hate character whose defining trait is liking someone else, is like they can't exist outside the sphere of said character. Kishimoto sucks at writing females and the worst part is that he admitted it himself. Admitting your flaws is the first step into improving, but he didn't improve nothing on his following series. Maybe that's why it got axed
@sakasusuk
@sakasusuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@juksleo6257 ugh Hinata is basically JUST another version of Orihime. ‘Kurosaki kunnnn!!’ Like I notice that the MC’s(not all but mostly in shonen) ended up with these characters who liked them for the longest time, submissive and revolves every single thought process around the crush, but the mc barely gave them any attention, and suddenly when they got together it just doesn’t makes sense because their devoted crush since day 1 felt one sided. Like what’s the point of their existence?? To just be the hot submissive crush with big boobs with barely any self plot of purpose and nothing more? Yes. That’s basically it. That’s also saying you should just be with that hot crush who likes you coz...they’re hot and they like you. Lol.
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakasusuk I also dislike Orihime. The main factor of why I'm team Noelle in Black clover is because Mimosa reminds of everything I hated on those two.
@mitsubachihachi9643
@mitsubachihachi9643 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Sakura had actually hit Sasuke and tore him a new one for how he treated her and trying to kill her more than once. And this isn't coming from hate for Sasuke because I don't really hate him; I just find it wildly unfair how Sakura was never allowed to process what happened or allowed to be angry at a male character who seriously hurt her and i bet it's because Kishimoto thought a female character's emotions inconvrniencing a male character's in any way was unacceptable.
@Shindy117
@Shindy117 Жыл бұрын
Look at any abusive relationship and why women stay with them. That will answer your question. But one of your answers can't be kids.
@Shindy117
@Shindy117 Жыл бұрын
@em ma of course not. They can't sell the "fantasy " of being with Sakura if they did. Buuuut I could be wrong if she had that trauma they could sell her to the "I could fix her" crowd.
@rubixmaster7532
@rubixmaster7532 Жыл бұрын
Half of Sakura's hatred comes from being angry at a male character, idk where that point is coming from.
@kev95
@kev95 Жыл бұрын
True. Now she's in a shallow "relationship" with him.
@Shindy117
@Shindy117 Жыл бұрын
@KilluaZoldyck your right but that's not my point.
@Dogofwar9
@Dogofwar9 2 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, as good as naruto is it failed MOST of the characters! If you werent naruto, sasuke or an uchiha, you simply didnt matter. It was ridiculous. Even the main “villains”, the akatsuki, were barely even used. Plus the women were barely even in the story. Even in the boruto series, sarada, an uchiha, is also barely even in the story!
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 2 жыл бұрын
Sarada is basically Borutos best friend and yet she got replaced real quick lmao. The konoha 11 got wasted.....friggin Konan basically does nothing and only has 1 fight. Its ridiculous
@venturoushope2846
@venturoushope2846 2 жыл бұрын
The only difference is that while the female characters had very clear stereotypes, the male characters did not. If you were a female character, you were either boy-obsessed and shy, boy-obsessed and angry, or not boy-obsessed with like 5 seconds of screentime. This is something I think Boruto is doing better with; removing the repetitive stereotypes.
@blurryy6423
@blurryy6423 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly ,Naruto is not good anime at all. Even now naruto fans only talk about madara...
@nozers
@nozers 2 жыл бұрын
@@blurryy6423 Naruto is amazing stfu
@samt3412
@samt3412 Жыл бұрын
The only arcs that don't really have this issue are Chunin Exams and Sasuke Retrieval. And even in the latter's case, Sakura was once again useless in that arc. I mean, some would argue that doing nothing is a better fate than getting Sakura vs. Iino as your major fight, but it's not great either way. Anyways, at least the best character, aka Rock Lee, got some big moments in both of those arcs.
@LeeLee-qw8np
@LeeLee-qw8np 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Hinata and Sakura, the two main female characters, basically only exist to show how much Naruto/Sasuke is loved.
@PJDAltamirus0425
@PJDAltamirus0425 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda wierd since the Hyuga clan martial arts is essentially bypasses physical attributes that they didn't take the opportunity to emphasized with having the shy timid become the master of it. Also, With what everyone is saying, Sakura could have been an alchemist character/ inventor.
@MrKingYuji
@MrKingYuji 3 жыл бұрын
At least Hinata had a cool backstory, the heiress of the Leaf’s most powerful clan but is pretty weak while her cousin is a genius and can’t rule due to their their fathers being twins. That’s a good story that went nowhere
@pale_hispanic2429
@pale_hispanic2429 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKingYuji tbh all of naruto is good storylines that went nowhere
@muchiha6428
@muchiha6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@PJDAltamirus0425 It's literally stated in Boruto writing that Hinata have mastered all the Hyuga abilities and is currently the strongest Hygua after beating Hanabi in a fight.
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 3 жыл бұрын
Sakura sacrifices her dignity for sasuke and is ready to abandon her village for him, and she faints a lot, and on top of all that instead of having demon magic or god power eyes she just heals and punches goodly. She constantly needs to be saved to top it ALL off, sasuke is almost never there for her, making her seem even more foolish.
@harrydonnellan2538
@harrydonnellan2538 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the big problems is narrative dissonance. We're told sakura is one of the strongest people in Konoha, we're told that Hinata is one of the youngest characters to have created their own Jutsu from scratch. But we are barely shown their strength, Sakura had her moment to shine in the beginning, fighting one of pain's summons, and played an important role in the end. Whilst Hinata had her's when she fought pain and during the last: naruto the movie. But beyond that we're not given much else, it feels like there were just too many characters and not many ideas on what to do with them all.
@rosepina8309
@rosepina8309 3 жыл бұрын
I agree the guidebooks stated that Sakura could hold her own in a fight with Sasuke and Naruto by the War Arc and yet we see none of her power. Even in Boruto the one major fight she gets ends with her getting saved by Sasuke and she doesn’t even use the 100 healings
@qye_67
@qye_67 3 жыл бұрын
Hinata didn't create any jutsu, twin lion fist already existed, it's a technique taught to the main branch of the Hyūga clan and Hinata only learned to use it
@harrydonnellan2538
@harrydonnellan2538 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Yeah righto mate
@christinem8799
@christinem8799 3 жыл бұрын
​@@qye_67 I know this is from filler, but what about the move "protective 64 palm?"
@qye_67
@qye_67 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinem8799 64 palms Neji already used during part 1
@legendarybroliz4578
@legendarybroliz4578 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we got more of Temari, she was the strongest female in the manga, she was independence and had self worth, she didn't cry over a boy and her character was her own, she was amazing.
@meandmadarastwogiantballsa5638
@meandmadarastwogiantballsa5638 2 жыл бұрын
yeah temari was 100% best girl
@samt3412
@samt3412 Жыл бұрын
Also, she has a really big fan, so that's also cool
@legendarybroliz4578
@legendarybroliz4578 Жыл бұрын
@@bethfratesi6198 Sasuke is a handsome guy, you can't blame her for liking a boy (which is normal) and it doesn't take away from her confidence and self worth, plus when Sasuke didn't show interest in her she didn't continue to chase him, there are other handsome men in the world.
@aoife4128
@aoife4128 Жыл бұрын
@@bethfratesi6198 It was once and she never did it again lol
@Smith-fg1qb
@Smith-fg1qb 9 ай бұрын
She peaked as a character during the sasuke retrieval arc. In shippuden, she was pretty underwhelming
@LeopardPrintZebras
@LeopardPrintZebras Жыл бұрын
As a 12 year-old female Naruto fan, I accepted that these girls were obsessed with romance because they were young and didn't know better. But as I got older and changed, and saw that the female characters remained obsessing over boys, and even settling in their futures, I found it so disappointing. Even when it comes down to romances, they fall so flat. Shikamaru and Temari were my favourite couple, so I was disappointed to see that she was boiled down to a tsundere housewife. They deserved so much more.
@subratanandy2142
@subratanandy2142 9 ай бұрын
I don't imagine being 13 and being so obsessed with a guy that thinking the end goal of my life is to be his wife ... I also don't imagine being 17 and keep having feelings for a guy whom I liked when I was 13 , who didn't like me 😂. I haven't seen any other girl that thought that way . Everyone had a different crush every year , or the ones whose goal was to get married, actually wanted a rich and powerful guy instead of a specific sadist weirdo 😂
@NeyamStar
@NeyamStar 7 ай бұрын
Im 14 and I disagree I hated them from the start 😭
@DashXero
@DashXero 3 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that everyone talks about TenTen without talking about how she's the only female character to get totally screwed in the ending. She runs a weapons shop -- in a time of unprecedented peace.
@pegasisterforeveric3755
@pegasisterforeveric3755 3 жыл бұрын
@@stalinjustafellowrussianco7440 it’s not true.studies have shown that single women are happier and live longer than married women.its just a stupid,sexist stereotype.
@SilverAukahzy
@SilverAukahzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@stalinjustafellowrussianco7440 sexist much. As if women didn't have dreams and aspirations.. We only want to have a partner. *rolls eyes* makes sense you have Stalin as your username....
@meanwhileinmyhead1877
@meanwhileinmyhead1877 3 жыл бұрын
@@stalinjustafellowrussianco7440 You're full of shit. Get off the internet and talk to people in real life for five seconds.
@scottdewar9628
@scottdewar9628 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
That’s literally one of the reasons why people joke about Tenten: she amounts to not much
@NayvieNoir
@NayvieNoir 3 жыл бұрын
Tenten didn’t even get a last name, that’s how little Kishimoto cared about her
@hoboerenisbestwifuinaot4927
@hoboerenisbestwifuinaot4927 3 жыл бұрын
fr 😭
@aalize3154
@aalize3154 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to check this so i googled 'what is tenten's last name naruto' and this is what i got: "Old Man. TenTen's last name is common knowledge. It's Ninja. She has 2 middle names as well, they are The and Useless, respectively." Is google fr or is this like, a quote from the anime/creator/fan?
@jasonmatthews52
@jasonmatthews52 3 жыл бұрын
I find it very telling that the one female character out of the Konoha 11 whose motivations didn't revolve around a man also had the least screentime.
@usagi8561
@usagi8561 3 жыл бұрын
That's why she is my favourite character in the entire franchise. If you make her a man, her story wouldn't change. Her character lacks of personality and also background but this isn't due to her being a female, but Kishimato's terrible writing. If she becomes a man Tenten would still be the same. 😌
@cameronwhite9987
@cameronwhite9987 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because Shounen is catered towards boys.
@princesseuphemia1007
@princesseuphemia1007 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing is that even if Shonen were only read by men and boys, it would still be important to show respect to the female characters in Shonen stories and remind the readers that women are people.
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 2 жыл бұрын
shonen is not only read by men. there is nothing stopping woman from consuming shonen content
@slowyourroll1146
@slowyourroll1146 Жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Emphasis on "even if"
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd Жыл бұрын
@@slowyourroll1146 there isnt even if because such scenario is impossible. there will be atleast one woman consuming shonen at any given moment.
@Artist_of_Imagination
@Artist_of_Imagination Жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Average KZfaq comprehension skills
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd Жыл бұрын
@@Artist_of_Imagination copium
@DanielCarvalho-te6hh
@DanielCarvalho-te6hh Жыл бұрын
Honestly the one thing I'll never be at peace with on Naruto is the fact that Sakura actually married Sasuke... he was an abusive asshole the hole time and she married him. Thats the worst message you could give a young woman. I wish right ate the end she would reject her abuser and got together with Rock Lee...
@jackmayor3574
@jackmayor3574 Жыл бұрын
Sakura shouldn't have gotten married, why did she need to become a stay at home mom? Didn't she want to walk in Tsnade's footsteps? So dumb.
@aryanarjun3260
@aryanarjun3260 5 ай бұрын
@@jackmayor3574 its just an anime dont get yourself heated so much
12 күн бұрын
Abusive? Since when was Sasuke in a relationship with her? In fact he wanted nothing to do with her, thats not abuse, she is the one that kept chasing him everywhere. Also what message? The manga is aimed at boys not girls.
@nada4106
@nada4106 3 жыл бұрын
sakura really could have become a badass female character , imagine a ninja from Normal family with no special clan like uchiha or senju clan as tsunada and doesn't have a tailed beasts trains to become a strong ninja with her own strength but the way she ws written is really bad , her potential with lost with sasuke drama , she simply could become like gai someone who defines hardwork
@rinray9685
@rinray9685 3 жыл бұрын
So you want her to be a carbon copy of gai?
@nada4106
@nada4106 3 жыл бұрын
@@rinray9685 " someone like gai who defines hardwork" of course not , gai wasn't from the special clans who had their own jutsu or had a tailed beast yet he was able to be the strongest in taijutsu by his own hard work , meanwhile sakura have a perfect chakra control and literally she was a genius she was the one able to solve the problems in the written chunin exams , she was resistant to genjutsu all of that she isn't from a special clan or had tailed beast , kishimoto wasted many potential EXCEPT sakura with sasuri fight she was lost in sasuke drama even her badass moment when she gain the byakuya seal just after 5 seconds she was saved by naruto and sasuke , not sakura alone but really all naruto female characters he handled them poorly it's not because I I don't like them but I don't like the way all naruto females characters were written just tsunada and konan
@rinray9685
@rinray9685 3 жыл бұрын
@@nada4106 why do you think power means good character?
@nada4106
@nada4106 3 жыл бұрын
@@rinray9685 what did this have to do with my comment?? I said they are poorly written example when sakura had her badass moment she was saved by naruto and sasuke , literally if you compared the females characters to the male characters, most of these females their dreams and motivation connected to gain admiration by a male , Not have a dreams on their own , their development not well written and this what these video said
@rinray9685
@rinray9685 3 жыл бұрын
@@nada4106 Rachel who is the weakest anime character yet literally is one of the best written
@unicorn1655
@unicorn1655 3 жыл бұрын
It baffles me how people don’t understand that women are humans with souls..
@nikolastesla5054
@nikolastesla5054 3 жыл бұрын
Upset would be an understatement to that statement
@nikolastesla5054
@nikolastesla5054 3 жыл бұрын
By beyond upset I mean that women aren’t seen as humans with souls by some people
@averagedemocrat9546
@averagedemocrat9546 3 жыл бұрын
Humans? Yes. Souls? No lol.
@caz1113
@caz1113 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagedemocrat9546 ok incel
@averagedemocrat9546
@averagedemocrat9546 3 жыл бұрын
@@caz1113 You hate wymin? INCEL!!!
@desertsandfly2277
@desertsandfly2277 2 жыл бұрын
When I watched Jujutsu kaisen after watching Naruto. It felt like breathing fresh new air in the female character's department. Characters like Maki and Nobara truly showed so much of their goals, personalities and abilities and what Sakura and Hinata could've been. And girls like Mai and Nishiyama sometimes show what normal girls like to do most of the time and what they want.
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 2 жыл бұрын
if u want good female characters then just stop watching shonen. animes like jjk comes up once in a decade
@desertsandfly2277
@desertsandfly2277 2 жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Can you kindly recommend me some if you know any?
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 2 жыл бұрын
@@desertsandfly2277 garden of sinners,violet evergarden, gosick, steins gate, dusk maiden of amnesia, fate zero, black lagoon, darling in the franxx, neon genesis evangelion, bakemonogatari
@adityapagare6026
@adityapagare6026 2 жыл бұрын
And if you don't want to see shounen bs like power of friendship and talk no jutsu read manhwa.
@SqualorOpera
@SqualorOpera 2 жыл бұрын
Nobara and Maki are what Hinata and Sakura could have been. (Spoilers, btw.) Maki was rejected from her clan because she was weak, she returned stronger than any of them and slaughtered them Itachi style. She raised up past all of their expectations. Nobara was loud and boisterous, and not traditionally pretty. She was still confident, she still loved herself and believed in her strength. She hand her own goals, and strived toward them. They were so much better.
@playerone14
@playerone14 2 жыл бұрын
I think Konan could've been the most badass female character in the show. They totally wasted her by killing her off in like 2 episodes after she left the akatsuki. She easily could've served as one of the most powerful ninja on the combined ninja forces side in the war, and she even could've had moments with Nagato's reanimated body instead of Naruto getting all those moments. Or even her own flashbacks and more backstory. Nagato and Yahiko both had their motives and we understood their purpose. They each shared Naruto's dream of finding peace, and all that they made Konan do was "support their dream". She also wasn't gaga for either of her teammates, even turning down Yahiko's interest in her because they were in war times. She was one of my favourites and it was really disappointing throwing her out the way they did.
@venturoushope2846
@venturoushope2846 2 жыл бұрын
As a firm Konan supporter, I couldn’t help but feel like her final battle with Tobi was really underwhelming. This woman faked an entire lake with paper, observed and noted Tobi’s weaknesses and limitations, only to be killed off by some izanagi bullshit. Sadly, in regular Kishimoto fashion, all her potential as a character was thrown away to aid the male characters in building the plot. It also irks me that she spent a large majority of her screentime playing nurse with Nagato. Imagine if she lived and ended up joining the allies in their plan to end Madara Uchiha. That would’ve been epic.
@playerone14
@playerone14 2 жыл бұрын
@@venturoushope2846 Cheers to that, there were many opportunities missed with her character that's for sure. Seeing her take on Madara and helping take down Obito especially would've been awesome.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
She should have either survived or been revived with the edo tensei. There was no reason for this
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
She is a good character already and no peace is her dream too not just yahiko and nagato
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
@@venturoushope2846 Konan is a well written character
@aldevinecalosor
@aldevinecalosor 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: how kishimoto failed his female characters
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
meh i still feel proud of chiyo konan tsunade...they did what they were suppose to do... and both hinata and ino in the war at least ....everyone else?..yeah they sucked
@capybara9521
@capybara9521 3 жыл бұрын
@@razkable you like your own comment stfu kid
@raety3941
@raety3941 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was pressured by jump for all-heterosexual ending, because Naruto is too popular. But no excuse for characters, yeah
@nushia7192
@nushia7192 3 жыл бұрын
MORE LIKE A WESTERNER FAILED TO UNDERSTAND HOW JAPANESE MANGAKA FOCUS ON THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC THAN THE OTHER HALF.
@nushia7192
@nushia7192 3 жыл бұрын
@@raety3941 and that is bad. making everything for everyone is gonna make it more unmarketable.
@sofia-lb9gv
@sofia-lb9gv 3 жыл бұрын
I've read fanfictions with better badass depictions of Sakura then the Naruto Franchise could ever do lmao
@bunnyoffate2559
@bunnyoffate2559 3 жыл бұрын
Fr like there’s one called Stumble and it’s amazing I keep rereading it
@glorialiedtke8931
@glorialiedtke8931 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunnyoffate2559 can you give me the link to that fic ?
@sageseeker9197
@sageseeker9197 3 жыл бұрын
Omg read "Changing Lives with a Bang" it's awesome, it's about somebody wakes up as Deidara, before they end up just running away from the Akatsuki and joining the leaf, then adopting all kinds of characters and fixing the female characters. It's also complete so no worries about updates. Also, another fic, called "Sakura" totally awesome. Similar narrative. Finished. Then there is "The Price of Living" kind of darker, not gonna spoil cause damn. Also finished. Oh, and then there is "Sasuke" by SumiTen on archive of our own. Hilarious, and they fix Sakura's character up.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 3 жыл бұрын
Any other recommendations in this thread?
@fulana_de_tal
@fulana_de_tal 3 жыл бұрын
i guess that's what fanfic is for... but it's kinda sad that fic authors can do important things better than the actual author
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 жыл бұрын
I just found out that Kishimoto came back to the Boruto manga from chapter 52 onwards, and now it _immediately_ makes sense why the writing of the female characters has been bugging me in these recent chapters. I thought this was weird, because the new writers had turned most of the female cast into such good and complex characters! Yeah, the ending of Naruto had left a lot of them in unfortunate positions - most of them giving up the ninja life to become good little housewives, for example - but the writers did what they could with what they had, especially for the new generation. But then suddenly, Sumire, who had always been portrayed as clever and competent, got talked down to really condescendingly by Amado, and kept acting very gullible and clueless during that whole conversation. And then a new character was introduced - Eida - who has absurdly powerful abilities, but she allegedly doesn't fight. Instead, she wants her (male, of course) Knights in shining armor to protect her. That, in and of itself, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but then there's also her main character motivation: she wants to make a boy fall in love with her. It's practically all she ever talks about, and she's constantly simping over Kawaki and Boruto, even though they don't even know her yet. I thought she was such a disappointing character once I learned what she was all about - I had come to expect so much more from Boruto's female cast. And yet here we were, with a character who acted even _more_ boy crazy than most female characters in Naruto did. And then I found out that Kishimoto was the one who wrote her. And suddenly, it all made sense. 🙄
@amalajohn1127
@amalajohn1127 2 жыл бұрын
lmao but my girl Sumire :'( and Eida isn't really interesting... Sarada might be the best girl that Kishi has written, and that's because he wanted to make her 'strong-hearted'. Maybe like the other Uchihas.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
@@amalajohn1127 That's another problem. Every conflict in shippuden could be tied back to the uchiha clan. Everything was about them.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
also, kishimoto at this point I think should just retire. He's clearly only in for boruto for cash and developing his male characters while letting most of the female characters degrade. He did fine with naruto but at this point I think he should just hang up his pen
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 2 жыл бұрын
Bro kishi introduced a very powerful female character with unique powers and personality. And no none of them gave up their shinobi lives and none became full time housewives as they all are still ninjas.
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 2 жыл бұрын
Lappland Kun that’s major cap
@catgirl-jj8no
@catgirl-jj8no 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of things that annoys me while trying to watch Naruto as a girl. It's aggravating to watch the female characters have potential and then be completely squandered
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 2 жыл бұрын
You think you got it bad, you should see any girl I've ever met that grew up watching Yugioh. MULTIPLE of them.
@catgirl-jj8no
@catgirl-jj8no 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherb501 Yike, never watched Yu-Gi-Oh but I definitely can imagine it being pretty bad
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 2 жыл бұрын
@@catgirl-jj8no For the first six shows? At LEAST every lead girl got brainwashed by a villain in some capacity, there was never a female 'rival' or main antagonist*, and a protagonist only lost a duel to a female character TWICE in nearly 1000 episodes, with *huge* asterisks. And trust me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of female mishandling. I could go on if you want. Thank Ra the seventh show came along when it did; it's been a virtual renaissance for women in this franchise, and they're still a minority of the cast! *barring whatever one counts the oddly-gendered-tho-probably-not-cis Yubel
@catgirl-jj8no
@catgirl-jj8no 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherb501 man that is definitely a yikes... Glad Pokemon is better lol
@razkable
@razkable 2 жыл бұрын
I agree in small doses but at the same time it's bias and what you want its not an issue with the series wanting to be unique and author choosing these paths for his story and making complex deep girls and subtly you guys miss what kishi and the anime staff did with these females...sure ten ten was wasted but you guys act like sakura tsunade chiyo hinata kushina ino anko temari konan didn't matter at all...that's a lie..they did matter...sorry to say it and some enjoy them for what he did do with them
@mysteryman9488
@mysteryman9488 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Konan completely outplayes Obito but since he had bullshit uchiha hax powers he still won. This is how dirty Kishimoto treats female characters they are either obssesed with a male character or genuienly strong but not strong enough to actually take out an important character.
@mrstarnation4171
@mrstarnation4171 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of flex would've that been? You know what would've been amazing was that Obito would have died in that battle and get brought back by Kabuto. If Kishimoto wanted her to die. That paper bomb trick making her chakra pool deplete heavily would've been a better reason. Dying from using too much chakra killing the bad guy? Far better than how she was treated. Legit Konan had so much potential. She could've died heroically actually hindering their plans but instead she just got piped down and pretty much a fodder character
@subashira
@subashira 3 жыл бұрын
lmao ill be real thats just how uchiha works - it has less to do with konan being a woman and more to do with "uchiha hax gg"
@mysteryman9488
@mysteryman9488 3 жыл бұрын
@@subashira Fair enough. How about when Sasori literally said he let Sakura and Chiyo kill him?
@subashira
@subashira 3 жыл бұрын
@@mysteryman9488 uh what about that? i mean the fight was pretty good in general and it definitely allowed both chiyo and sakura to show alot of their ability - i dont see the problem?
@mysteryman9488
@mysteryman9488 3 жыл бұрын
@@subashira It means that they didn't win on their own even after everything, Sasori could have killed them if he wanted to. Compare that to the rest of the cast who actually beat their opponent. Naruto one shotted Kakuzu, Sasuke beat Deidara and even Shikamaru beat Hidan using his intellect Sakura is the only one that just gets a mercy win.
@lebreadpan
@lebreadpan 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that kushina ended up as a housewife was such a dirty move. You're telling me she had the 9 tails and a pure blood from a prestigious clan wasn't enough material to get the hokage tittle? It had to be the blonde sonic 💀 Edit: half of the comments fighting and the other decaying of laughter for the "blonde sonic" commet it's doing it for me lmao
@kyleward7417
@kyleward7417 3 жыл бұрын
That's because 4th was already shown to be a Hokage by the start of the show, and Kishi was making story as he went along so of course Kushina had no chance of becoming Hokage, nothing to do with sexism.
@lebreadpan
@lebreadpan 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyleward7417 So why couldn't kiri make her the hokage from the start? So he created the male one and left the female character for later is what you're saying? Basically she didn't exist or matter and when she was shown she had to be rescued, became a housewife, made a child and then got killed with no other aspirations in life. Minato got a lot of skills and was feared by nations meanwhile kushina was reduced to the basics of stereotypes in woman. That's sexism
@kyleward7417
@kyleward7417 3 жыл бұрын
@@lebreadpan Because Kishi simply didn't thought of her that's why? Yeah he made the male character first and left the female for later, that's what I said, got any problem with that? Why should Kishi make her Hokage from the start? She had Nine Tails so she was kept in secret under protection. "Basics of stereotype" women don't hit their Husband and those husbands weren't afraid of their wife like Minato was.
@lebreadpan
@lebreadpan 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyleward7417 bruh why couldn't he make them both at the same time its not that hard. And she could have been hokage or a high rank ninja just fine. If not hokage why not an anbu? The point is that kishi can't make female characters, all of them are so bad and nobody is talking about hitting here. She still was reduced to just a mother, that's a stereotype.
@yeri3887
@yeri3887 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but Kushina didn’t rlly want to become hokage she just said that when she was new in the academy to seem strong.
@riymeep6708
@riymeep6708 Жыл бұрын
People need to realize that your target demographic is not an excuse for bad writing
@francisconavarrete3031
@francisconavarrete3031 Жыл бұрын
But their not bad written just not important ya don't all said it's bad written because it's a trendy word and ya day the same shit on why with actually saying anything
@riymeep6708
@riymeep6708 Жыл бұрын
@@francisconavarrete3031 Well, I would argue that sidelining characters that are meant to be important is bad writing, at least for those individual characters, but good point
@francisconavarrete3031
@francisconavarrete3031 Жыл бұрын
@@riymeep6708 ok I am saying that back in the day Naruto wasn't seen as badly written until people commenting on potholes and the side lighting the side characters which then they assume is badly written because literally the editors and shoonen jump I made him change certain things aspects of characters by the feedback of the fans literally fans did not like certain aspects of characters and just like now they have to go with the majority because otherwise it will be canceled,look at Boruto they do they're female characters way better I even say better than jjk since a lot of them had development characters about them and even fight against powerful villains but it's nowhere near as popular as Naruto
@darkgenius2002
@darkgenius2002 Жыл бұрын
@@francisconavarrete3031 no, that's false. All females characters in Boruto, are the same. Horrible writing and disastrous development. The older one and the new one. Naruto's female cast are one of the worst in Shonen anime and manga
@illuminoeye_gaming
@illuminoeye_gaming 8 ай бұрын
@@francisconavarrete3031... the entire video is about the actual bad writing lmfao
@kitkat8711
@kitkat8711 Жыл бұрын
I remembered when I first watched the show not having any problems with Tsunade and Sakura having healing abilities, in the case of Tsunade I just thought it was more awesome, a powerful woman with her fists who can also help allies in the medical field, I even found it a bit inspirational because it showcased that she was also kind in nature and could kick ass, and she created it herself, I saw a role model of what I wanted to be when I was 10. And then every woman was relegated to healing like you said. That was the moment I felt left down as a woman, realizing Kishimoto never cared for characters I wanted to see myself in. EDIT: Studio Ghibli gave me what I wanted
@younglingmaid2526
@younglingmaid2526 Жыл бұрын
Studio Ghibli’s writing >>>
@scotthayeswwe
@scotthayeswwe Жыл бұрын
Do anyone have a link to this fanfiction? I'd be interested in reading it
@NeyamStar
@NeyamStar 7 ай бұрын
Frrr
@cassi6528
@cassi6528 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the argument that "Shonen is made for boys" like that's a valid reason to not put any effort into writing an interesting female character. FMA is just as much a shonen as Naruto is but even the most irrelevant bg female characters are better written than any of the main female characters in Naruto.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 3 жыл бұрын
Winry,Lust,Izumi and Olivia are good characters.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 3 жыл бұрын
@Hani Mohamed Abdullahi There's an "r"?
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 3 жыл бұрын
@Hani Mohamed Abdullahi That's confusing.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 3 жыл бұрын
@Yʊӄǟʀɨ Yǟӄʊʍօ Her too. Honestly, the women in Naruto are most different types love struck weirdos(except Tenten). Ino(she's still thirsty for him even when she's married) and Sakura were annoying. Hinata was practically a stalker. Temari and Karin were Tsunderes. Tenten was the only normal one.
@tab4account128
@tab4account128 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr i am a girl and i am way more into shounen then any other genre
@Cyberneticfrk
@Cyberneticfrk 3 жыл бұрын
Sakuras crush on Sasuke should've stopped in the chunnin exams. The chunnin exams showed Sakura could be strong, independent and smart. Examples would be her doing the test without cheating in the first part, her being able to trick and hold on against three adult ninjas on her own on the second part of the exam, and her being able to break free from Ino's jutsu in the third part. They could've just made her realize that she didn't actually like Sasuke in a love way and only acted that way because it's what the other girls did and she didn't want to be the odd one out. I mean, god dammit, she's physically the strongest ninja in Konoha and runs the hospital by herself! But nooooooo, let's make her super obsessed on Sasuke even after he threatens to kill her!!!!1!1 Edit: I also forgot to mention Sakura was the best at chakra control, being able to climb the tree at the first try.
@animesakura3557
@animesakura3557 3 жыл бұрын
She was never obsessed with sasuke romantically after he left, I think this is how you pay attention to it and how it's written more than how you, individually see it. You remember that fake confession? yea tho I fucking hated it because it had done no justice to her character and she was MANIPULATED before hand which basically gave her no time to actually think it through and she had no moral support from anyone in the village after the news there is one thing you can find in it and it's that she rather have Naruto than sasuke and she was willing to keep her only friend who had always been there for her rather than sasuke. She even said it when Naruto was leaving the village that he always understood her. After sasuke left I'm not gonna say all romantic feelings disappear because even irl it doesn't work like that but she definetly went to develop and put what's right over how she feels, she was willing to kill sasuke just for naruto's sasuke and YES we all knew she couldn't have done it would you want to kill someone you spent all your years on getting back and someone you liked? even in the final valley when sasuke was going to fight Naruto kakashi said sakura doesn't want to have you romantically she just wants her friend back (not exactly what he said) Even tho her getting stronger was for bringing back sasuke, Naruto was still her motivation in helping him bring sasuke back and she's even said it many times that she'll get stronger with him to get sasuke back. Sasusaku is a complex dynamic so I won't touch on their actual relationship but just wanted to point out she was never romantically obsessed with sasuke after he left.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 3 жыл бұрын
@@animesakura3557 she still ended up marrying the dude, meaning she still ahd feelings for him despite all the shitty things he did (granted the fact the story tries to ignore and forget all the shitty things Sasuke did so he can be redeemed is another issue but still)
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 I think Sasuke should have DIED to show the futility of revenge, rather than have him just get over his revenge obsession, have him be a tragic character who was ultimately destroyed by his need for revenge. Have Sakura realise Sauske never loved her and her point of maturity being getting over her shallow crush for him.
@animesakura3557
@animesakura3557 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 she married him 4 entire years off of what happened and why are we blaming sasuke for his actions while he was mentally ill and traumatized? I get many of you don't understand mental illness nor how it works but her marrying him is out of the question as it happened years after whatever fucked up shit he did to not only her but to her teammates aswell. Sasuke changed and took around a years by himself to be redeemed he felt sorry for his actions and desperately tried to change still years after.
@animesakura3557
@animesakura3557 3 жыл бұрын
@Yʊӄǟʀɨ Yǟӄʊʍօ I wasn't dragging hinata but sharing my opinon, this isn't an excuse but the TRUTH after sasuke left sakura was never ROMANTICALLY obsessed with sasuke but put her feelings aside and wanted to rescue him as a friend not as his lover which many ppl throughout the show have said so bye if you don't have anything to say don't reply to me and create uncessary attention
@rivermaxwell3834
@rivermaxwell3834 9 ай бұрын
But also Sakura's obsession with Sasuke is creepy and uncomfortable, and despite what people say, it is creepier than Naruto's obsession because Sakura's obsession is undeniably romantic. And while any obsession is a creepy one, a romantic obsession is also a violating one.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 9 ай бұрын
And now JJK failed its female Characters. 1 (the constantly-naked-One) has a confirmed Domain Expansion but we didnt get to see it. Aside from that, i guess Woman arent good enough to have them
@rivermaxwell3834
@rivermaxwell3834 9 ай бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 damn, I'm not entirely caught up, but that sucks. I watched it a while ago and don't remember everything; I've been planning on rewatching it, and it's disappointing to hear.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 9 ай бұрын
@@rivermaxwell3834 Yah i thought for the longst time it was a masterpiece but the Female Characters just fall behind, all of them, eventually
@rivermaxwell3834
@rivermaxwell3834 9 ай бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 Even so, I think appreciating it while acknowledging it's faults is the best way to go. It might have issues but I think it definitely is better than a lot of anime out there!
@Planetdestroyer.138
@Planetdestroyer.138 7 ай бұрын
It's funny how Naruto is worst than her he even cried to the raikage so he doesn't kill Sasuke lol
@raynegruber5368
@raynegruber5368 2 жыл бұрын
As a girl, I have loved naruto, and still do. But.... I don't pay attention to the girls, because that's a fast path to depression.
@Mr_Mistah
@Mr_Mistah 2 жыл бұрын
It really isn't. The female characters in Naruto are written wonderfully. Even better in Boruto. Who cares that they aren't written by garbage modern political standards?
@raynegruber5368
@raynegruber5368 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Mistah I did not mean anything about politics.
@blaykay-4797
@blaykay-4797 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Mistah Good female characters isn't "PolITicS". go outside, dude. you're actually paranoid.
@Mr_Mistah
@Mr_Mistah 2 жыл бұрын
@@blaykay-4797 You know these comments are from months ago right bud? And I don't understand what you're on about. Work on your English before replying to me
@blaykay-4797
@blaykay-4797 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Mr_Mistah & this vid's a year old, you point is? Lol, I know English, you know Right Wing Buzzwords. also your name's Mistah, c'mon BuD X)
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, if you give your female characters strong internal philosophies and motivations, you can actually give them much more interesting reasons to like your male characters than "I just think he's neat."
@a7xguitar666
@a7xguitar666 3 жыл бұрын
i legitimately cant remember a reason sakura had for liking sasuke besides "hes hot". and that never once changed in the entire franchise
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 3 жыл бұрын
@@a7xguitar666 Does that mean, if he'd had a "depressed, fat Thor" type of character arc, she just would've dropped him?!?
@a7xguitar666
@a7xguitar666 3 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofthecervino3366 no cause that man is gorgeous
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 3 жыл бұрын
@@a7xguitar666 Fair enough! XD
@a7xguitar666
@a7xguitar666 3 жыл бұрын
@Will Diesel its fine for a preteen girl in ep one. Not when its still the only reason 5 years later at the very end of the series
@ace3021
@ace3021 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is....Naruto and Sasuke ending up together makes more sense than NaruHina and SasuSaku lol
@firstnamelastname-zf3gg
@firstnamelastname-zf3gg 3 жыл бұрын
For many of anime fans they were first gay ship.: ) But seriously, they have so much sense than any of female male pairings in Boruto. Just seeing that scene when two go in past conforms it.
@sageseeker9197
@sageseeker9197 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, even Naruto and Sakura getting together would have made some sense. I mean I saw them more as siblings cause they had that kind of energy, but even so they would have made a little more sense than Sakura and Sasuke bc they would have spend all that time together trying to get Sasuke back. Also, Hinata should had an arc where she takes back her place as the Hyuga heir. Just saying.
@fulana_de_tal
@fulana_de_tal 3 жыл бұрын
it would be at least as toxic as sasusaku, tho, sasuke ending up with anyone from the original team 7 is so messed up because both naruto and sakura had an unhealthy obssession on him and he just tried to kill them multiple times in response, man should've ended alone
@fulana_de_tal
@fulana_de_tal 3 жыл бұрын
​@Batman what? homosexuality is not something to be "promoted", it's like saying "let's not promote blond hair", people are born like this and it's completely normal and natural, you know? let's not promote homophobia
@KZ1ILLI0N9
@KZ1ILLI0N9 3 жыл бұрын
@Batman nigga I know you trolling but don’t use Batman’s name to promote it
@9xprincess
@9xprincess 2 жыл бұрын
Also Tsunade didn't become a good wife and wise mother only because the love of her life Dan died young. After that she is so traumatized that she leaves the ninja life and can't stand the sight of blood. Every ninja and especially the Three Sanin sees and experiences violence but its only a/the female character that gets so scared from it that she literally can't fight. Kishimoto even added a moment where Dan saves Tsunade even though he is dead during the War Arc.
@Palepetal
@Palepetal 11 ай бұрын
Eh, trauma effects people differently. Kakashi also had a traumatic experience losing his romantic interest Rin when he was very young, and never seemed to be romantically interested in any women afterwards. Tsunade is similar in this regard, if she worked on getting over her trauma she could move on from it but she instead chose to drink and get into debt. Jiraya is also similar in this, he does not marry any woman after Tsunade refuses him. Jiraya does not display the same issues Tsunade does, but really a man who falls in love with one woman but won't move on if she's not interested speaks to his inability to move on. Possibly from trauma as well.
@maria04050
@maria04050 9 ай бұрын
​@@Palepetalkakashi never had any feelings
@subratanandy2142
@subratanandy2142 9 ай бұрын
​@@Palepetal we know trauma affects people differently , but you don't become a doctor without encountering gut-wrenching deaths . Tsunade was a top tier neurosurgeon for God's sake .. kishimoto just didn't know what it takes to be a doctor. He just wrote her badly 😂.
@pastelnightowo5425
@pastelnightowo5425 2 жыл бұрын
You know it sucks when I’ve read the whole series and seen most of the anime and when you mentioned Hinata struggling with her younger sister being better than her and high familial expectations I went “wait, she has a sister??”
@razkable
@razkable 2 жыл бұрын
Watch episode 389 of shippuden...we get a great sister moment
@anotherpawn
@anotherpawn 2 жыл бұрын
It's filler and is as canon as mecha Naruto. A nice episode, yes. But it doesn't change anything for the series.
@pandawan4
@pandawan4 3 жыл бұрын
Sakura's ending actually makes me sad. She got the husband she wanted, the man is barely home despite being affectionate towards her. Their daughter grows up with no father figure (and trust me, that can mess people up in real life). She's supposedly one of the greatest medics in Konoha, head of the medical department, etc. but somehow has trouble paying off mortgages (even with Sasuke's wetwork money pooled in, really?). And the last time we see her in the manga, my girl is dusting shelves like a common housewife. Like, why even bother making her a medical ninja with a loud but kind personality if you just gonna portray her doing common chores instead of actually using her medical knowledge in the end?
@thefallen8143
@thefallen8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocy.9165 you CLEARLY didn't get the point of the video OR this comment for a fact. Jesus. (-_-)
@thefallen8143
@thefallen8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocy.9165 and your reasons for that? You aren't entitled to your own opinion, you're only entitled to what you can argue for. Justify your statement.
@thefallen8143
@thefallen8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocy.9165 Dude, the video is literally about how poorly Sakura's character was written; it takes us through the could've beens and should've beens and it clearly states that it was the author's fault that Sakura's main motivation was seeking love and validation from Sasuke and in the pursuit of that she made horrible decisions. Also, you can force a horse to a lake, but you can't make him drink. There was no obligation for Sasuke to marry Sakura but he did. And it was out of love, their marriage is enough proof of that. Sasuke wouldn't have married Sakura if he didn't want to; my man can defy the laws and become a terrorist, and you think he'll bend to the will of a person to marry him if it wasn't out of his own choice? Sasuke is Sakura's husband, and he is bound to treat her right. And OP right here just points out how Sakura, despite her amazing qualities, was dimmed down to the traditional gender roles of a housewife in the Anime. Your argument seems pretty unreasonable to me.
@thefallen8143
@thefallen8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocy.9165 Any person would want to have a legacy left behind. Naruto wouldn't have had to use talk no jutsu on Sasuke, Sasuke would of course have wanted to carry on his clan to create a legacy. Also, if Sakura really deserved to suffer, why did she end up with Sasuke then? Don't you think that the biggest punishment for Sakura would have been to not get the person for whom she did all that she had done? What was the point of getting Sasuke and Sakura married if she didn't "deserve" to be happy? That is cause she did deserve to be happy. Trash personality, you say. She forced her love on Sasuke her whole life, you say. Did that ever negatively affect Sasuke? No. Sakura destroyed herself for him. She made decisions that negatively impacted her own life, not Sasuke's. And suddenly not everyone calling her out is her own fault? That is just blatant victim blaming. Sakura's main motivation according to the author was Sasuke so obviously he never tried to fix her obsession with him, whether through self reflection or any close acquaintance or mentor. And character development is the main point her. According to what you say, Sasuke deserved a life sentence for his terrorist activities. But he came past that point, didn't he? He deserved to get a second chance. So does Sakura. One of the best Kunoichis, the best medic in town, a dependable mentor and mother. She is one of the most wonderful characters in Boruto and no one can deny that. I am sorry if you think people cannot overcome their discrepancies and change for the better so that they can have a happier future. Sakura deserves happiness as equally as any other character in Naruto and Boruto.
@thefallen8143
@thefallen8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocy.9165 My intention is not to justify Sakura's actions, it is to indicate how of a person is able to overcome their shortcomings they should have the right to be happy. Hyper fixation was the main attribute linked to Sakura by kishimoto. Yes she ignored everyone and everything to seek validation from sasuke. That is bad writing, but hyper fixating is human. Also, trauma is not an excuse for someone's behaviour. Sakura was a child when she bullied Naruto. It doesn't matter if she had trauma to back it up or not. What matters is she becomes one of his best team mates in the future and therefore she overcomes her shortcomings. Sorry if I wasted your time, but it seems as if you are just blatantly hating on Sakura for personal reasons. Everyone who changes for the better deserves happiness. Please do not use the excuse of "bad intentions" to justify hate towards her. It was lack of skill on part of kishimoto, and rapid character development without any context that led straight to sasusaku ship becoming canon without delving deeper into their relationship. Also, I prefer you read Sakura hiden and sasuke shinhiden to understand how their marriage is actually happy and mutually committed.
@esmagiyar3338
@esmagiyar3338 3 жыл бұрын
Even Fairy Tail - a series that sexualises women all the time - had better female characters. Most of them had their dreams and goals. Kana wanted to have good relationship with her dad, Lucy wanted to write a book and go on adventures, I'm pretty sure Biska wears the pants in her marriage with Alzack and Ul was a walking legend and a disaster of a mother, if you think about it. Elza Scarlett is one of the strongest guild members and was shown to hold her own in battles, yet she is still very much a woman. She is more than just an attractive girl and more than a warrior, she is a kind and compassionate person, a loyal and caring friend.
@chikitita6763
@chikitita6763 3 жыл бұрын
For real though. Although the show was full of blatant fan service I eventually got tired of, and though I did not watch it for the plot as well, the dynamics of the characters were well done and I watched it for that.
@johans3164
@johans3164 3 жыл бұрын
When fricking "Fairy tail" does something better, you know you f*cked up
@istalkghosts497
@istalkghosts497 3 жыл бұрын
I will always have respect for hiro mishima for the way he has portrayed his female characters despite the disturbing fanservices. So far as kishimoto is concerned, he has lost all my respect for being a blatant liar and a sexist pig
@chikitita6763
@chikitita6763 3 жыл бұрын
@@johans3164 yea. Though I'll be honest. I enjoyed Fairy Tail despite the friendship mess that it was. I watched it for the characters instead of the plot. I never thought there'd be an anime where I don't "hate" at least one female character.
@istalkghosts497
@istalkghosts497 3 жыл бұрын
@@chikitita6763 wendy marvell, the youngest cast of the fairytail manga is more well developed and mature compared to adult sakura haruno. And by sakura haruno I mean the married sakura haruno
@lightsideofsin8969
@lightsideofsin8969 Ай бұрын
The most disrespectful thing that Kishimoto has done to Sakura is getting her and Sasuke together in the end. The only redemption he could have given her was to have Sakura move on from Sasuke, not forgive him for all the abuse and have her become happy regardless. She doesn't have to hate him but she could have at least acknowledged that her whole motivation was an unhealthy obsession and that Sasuke never treated her with the dignity and respect that she deserved. She could have stayed single and maybe her healing from all of this could be messy but her final act could have been to finally value herself over a guy who never even truly saw her (because let's be real, Kishimoto never gave her anything worth seeing).
@chimeiamv
@chimeiamv 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that always gets me... most of these male's power don't even come from physical strength, but from their eyes or the ability to master supernatural talents. So making them stronger for no reason doesn't really add up. One of the characters, Guren, was strong and capable with her crystal style, but that was relegated to a filler arc and she never posed a true threat to many people. She was also relegated to a motherly role eventually, too. Also, what is with all the powerful kunoichi being allowed to beat up their male counterparts and it played off as comedy? To me, it just reads as "Obviously they could never pose any real threat or even hurt the men, so it's just hilarious to see them get out their hysteria-flooded frustrations" or something.
@jasonyu6584
@jasonyu6584 3 жыл бұрын
Sakura: invents anecdote that a whole frickin villiage couldn't figure out in less than 20 minutes and beats the crap out of Sasori Kishimoto: "Alright that's enough feminism for today" Edit:(Not y’all arguing down there lmaooooo)
@SilverAukahzy
@SilverAukahzy 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute awesome coment
@miss_chelles1338
@miss_chelles1338 3 жыл бұрын
Ehhh. I would consider that just 'girl power' instead of feminism. But yeah you have a point.
@justchilling704
@justchilling704 3 жыл бұрын
@@miss_chelles1338 Yeah, screw feminism.
@onadaTotihotiH
@onadaTotihotiH 3 жыл бұрын
That must have been quite the story
@Finngrinder
@Finngrinder 3 жыл бұрын
Modern feminism sucks. enormously. hard.
@petes1772
@petes1772 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that the women had some of the most interesting powers in the Naruto universe. Sakura and Tsunade could literally punch boulders into oblivion. Ino had the ultimate intel ability to possess people, see/hear through them, and even connect the consciousness of multiple people for thought sharing. Tenten had a nearly infinite pool of projectile weapons (eat your heart out, Gilgamesh). And Konan literally parted the sea with her paper seals. To this day, I cant believe that the Manga pushed the females aside by accident or poor writing. It must have taken effort to make so many powerful/nuanced powers worthless in the grand scheme of the show, and that's when we are only considering ninjutsu.
@GabrielMoura-qe1xr
@GabrielMoura-qe1xr 3 жыл бұрын
That's not really more interesting, anything Sakura and Tsunade could do with their strenght, the actual strong people could do better (Madara just drawing the sword of his Perfect Susano'o)and healing is usefull and Sakura kept Naruto alive in the War when he lost Kurama but, ultimately, not flashy enough for Shonen. To posses people Ino had to send her mind to the target leaving her body defenseless. Tenten didn't have that, she had a bunch of random normal weapons inside scrolls(a very finite number) and as Temari showed very useless, there was nothing special about them, don't compare to Gilgamesh which with his swords could actually pierce mountains and kaiju, not even gonna say more about the actual special weapons he has, Tenten thing was throw a bunch of weapons and hope it does something. For Konan to do that she needed a lot of time and preparation and it was an one off thing, a last effort to kill Tobi, not something she could do again(without more time and prep).
@whoislailah3388
@whoislailah3388 3 жыл бұрын
literally ino could’ve been so cool honestly i was rooting for her and ten ten but look at where we are😔
@GabrielMoura-qe1xr
@GabrielMoura-qe1xr 3 жыл бұрын
@fire lord No, not even close, just explaining what they had to work with because Kishimoto didn't give them much. Most of it was generic, and I agree it was a waste of characters, but KISHIMOTO needed that sweet Op Hax Eyes GG or Monster Inside you makes you god thing.
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
hinata?...the hyuga style is so cool
@whoislailah3388
@whoislailah3388 3 жыл бұрын
@@razkable well yeah but honestly ten ten was the only female ninja out of the kunoichi in the leaf village that was trying to become a strong ninja but for herself and not for somebody else or some boy.. like hinata and sakura and partially ino. But she still didn’t get any screen time at all. (coming from a hinata stan)
@geminiguy6032
@geminiguy6032 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Sakura try to protect Naruto and Sasuke by setting traps and playing mind games against the sound ninja during the Chunin exams made me invested in her character because despite thinking outside the box, she acknowledged how weak she was compared to the rest of Team 7 and I couldn't wait to see her catch up or possibly exceed the rest of the team. Unfortunately, after Sasori, she never really developed further (I haven't seen Boruto so maybe there's some more development there) which is a shame, cuz Tsunade was so op when she first appeared.
@francisconavarrete3031
@francisconavarrete3031 Жыл бұрын
What she was stronger then said and Yamato lol
@subratanandy2142
@subratanandy2142 9 ай бұрын
In Boruto , Sakura is quite op , owns a hospital, yet can't pay off her home loan..
@jacinto1477
@jacinto1477 Жыл бұрын
I always hate how people defend Kishimoto with the he " admitted he's uncomfortable while writing female characters",and I'm sorry but you write female characters like you write male characters, unless you re writting about characteristics specific to girls,you dont have an excuse. And as far as Im concerned ,Naruto is a shounen ,so we are not exploring a female mind and way of thought, so Kishimoto has no excuse.
@indedgames4359
@indedgames4359 8 ай бұрын
He just cant write Women. The end
@ICEcoldJT
@ICEcoldJT 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s human nature not to realize the true value of something, unless they lose it.” - Orochimaru
@darklight6921
@darklight6921 3 жыл бұрын
maru was fine representation of non binary.
@nullakjg767
@nullakjg767 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkyphantom92 Its true. But orochimaru does have some good original shit. My fav quote of his is what he said to kimimaro. "Maybe there is no purpose in life, but if you linger a while long enough, you might just find something of value in it. Like how you discovered that flower, or how I found you."
@rybread17
@rybread17 3 жыл бұрын
Yo JT!!
@user-jf1vl3zd8y
@user-jf1vl3zd8y 3 жыл бұрын
@ICEcold JT bruh i just seen you in the comments of vontoocut’s latest vid 😂
@Dj-fb8bs
@Dj-fb8bs 3 жыл бұрын
@@nullakjg767 he do be spitting even though he was a crazy snake 🐍 😂
@user-yn6fz8yp2c
@user-yn6fz8yp2c 3 жыл бұрын
as a woman, the misogyny bleeds into the fan spaces as well, the burning hatred men have for sakura while praising hinata for the most part always made me really uncomfortable , sakura has a lot of qualities men demonize in women they are attracted to (fiery, flat chested, loud, etc) while hinata has a lot that men deem to be appealing (quiet, doting, bigger chested, completely loyal to the guy she likes, sweet), sakura & hinata are two sides of the same coin in a lot of ways, but sakura will always be demonized for not fitting that perfect wife role, which is a byproduct of the female characters only being valued in the context of men
@solar_cpg8833
@solar_cpg8833 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the fan base, but as an actually fan of the show who is also a man, I can give you multiple reasons why Sakura is hated that gave nothing to do with misogyny and the biggest reason is the contrast treatment of Naruto and her crush Sasuke, it’s to the point where naruto could be killed by sasuke and she would still side with him, her characteristics have nothing to do with the reason people hate her, and her loudness is usually fun to watch and listen to, but sometimes she says dumb things. Hinata was never really liked by the fan base and I only personally liked her when she demonstrated loyalty as a friend to naruto and helped everybody else, her quietness was irritating and I personally wished she had sakuras confidence. Both girls are completely loyal to their guy except Hinata won’t forsake her friends for naruto because she believes in helping as many people as possible.
@solar_cpg8833
@solar_cpg8833 3 жыл бұрын
@Robin Baby Sakura literally spent most of her time being a burden throughout the show at least hinata was useful with her byakugun, Sakura literally has no jutsu and her main ability is to heal... not to mention her chemistry with Sasake is even worse than Naruto, sasake has actively pushed Sakura away and tried to kill her multiple times and she was still in love with him the whole series whereas Hinatas crush on Naruto makes more sense because she saw him as a hero for standing up to her bullies when she was younger. Naruto never actively rejected Hinata and the worst thing he’s ever done is friend zone her a couple times, he was already in love with her during the pain arc. Hinata is not the best girl instead she’s the quiet girl that got lucky with the successful guy whereas Sakura is the Fiery Girl that never gave up on the most popular guy. Karen had more compatiblity with Sasake tbh
@beanbean9364
@beanbean9364 3 жыл бұрын
personally, the reason I hate Sakura is the way she treated Naruto. Literally for 80% of the show she treated Naruto terribly and even if she did care for him she'd always do something to mess it up. Unlike Hinata where all she wanted was Naruto to notice her, but even besides that we see that she respected Naruto because as kids she knew the person he really was. Although I can understand that there's a lot of fans that do demonize Sakura because of her qualities, I don't really understand it either cause even tho I don't really like the character, I've always personally found her pretty XD.
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty 3 жыл бұрын
Personally i just don't like her whole sasuke obsession. Like girl get a life outside of dick and the dicks they're attached to, you can have goals AND be a romantically inclined person. I hate that trait in people, the obsession with sex and love taking over EVERYTHING.
@beanbean9364
@beanbean9364 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty omg I completely forgot about that somehow 💀. Yea that is the worst thing that I have seen in any type of show, like wtf
@dah3071
@dah3071 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been neat to see Sakura take the combat medic role and twist it around, using healing on herself to overcharge her physical capabilities or even reverse it to sap out opponents chakra so that she can stand on par with the rest of team seven despite not having as many techniques and abilities at her disposal, basically creating a new style of combat for combat medics to use in the process
@gohcinderace8204
@gohcinderace8204 Жыл бұрын
I mean that's kinda how she fought against Kido Tsumiki.....
@chillfactory9000
@chillfactory9000 2 жыл бұрын
might i add that their introductions alone give us a view of who they are, and therefore show just how fucked up this is: naruto gets introduced when he's vandalizing the hokage faces, giving us the impression he's a playful silly kid sasuke is introduced by showing how brooding he is, not to mention his allusions to his family and sakura is introduced by showing how much she loves sasuke.
@HienPham-ow5ky
@HienPham-ow5ky 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, i agree lol🤣.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with that. All three of them were quite ignorant of the path it took to get to their goals, its just that sakura didn't grow out of her childish goals and instead strove to make a new one that was better.
@jacquelinetsui1346
@jacquelinetsui1346 3 жыл бұрын
Even if a series is targeted to a younger male audience, that just makes it all the more important to write multi-faceted female characters along side the male cast. Set a good example and show young men that both men and women are capable of so much, and the beautiful relationships that can come from embracing the good and the bad in each character, no matter their gender.
@grim6387
@grim6387 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, PREACH IT
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, although men should pretty much always be the best. Otherwise it won't make sense. Men are just wired differently from women.
@cobweb8129
@cobweb8129 3 жыл бұрын
​@@icebox1954 ...no? the main difference of men and women in combat is average physical strength/muscle mass AND I REALLY DONT THINK NARUTO CARES ABOUT MUSCLE MASS OF ALL THINGS. besides, if they were all trained for this, they would all be equally competent with a few outliers.
@thelistener5440
@thelistener5440 3 жыл бұрын
@@icebox1954 Ah, your standard troll. U mad? Try again, little snowflake.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 3 жыл бұрын
​@@cobweb8129 They wouldn't be equally competent, not even close. And besides the Raikage and his family then you are right, physical strength really isn't focused on. But I never mentioned muscle strength I wrote that men and women are wired differently. The reason men dominate is because they are by nature more aggressive and prone to be more disagreeable at the extremes. That has nothing to do with muscle strength, but rather how the male brain functions, which is why men will always be the best ninjas. You seem to forget that no one cares about the faceless, average ninjas that are chunin, who were born without much talent, heir to a ninja clan or godlike powers. In that men and women might be equally bad. But at the extremes men will always be better (unless you are the mother of all chakra from a Japanese fairy tale).
@KarlaIvethXD
@KarlaIvethXD 3 жыл бұрын
It bothers me that Hinata began the series as the heiress of the Hyuga clan and just ends as Naruto's wife. Imagine that power couple, the Hokage and the Hyuga clan head, but she ended as a housewife. Nothing wrong with that but she had so much potential
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 3 жыл бұрын
Everything's wrong with that as that's a MASSIVE downgrade.All the female cast becomes housewives like they're mothers before them.
@tenmei4180
@tenmei4180 3 жыл бұрын
Hinata was literally the worst character ever for Naruto to marry, I hate how she is so fucking shallow in personality in all the series except for Boruto, she is so shy that Kishimoto forgot to give her redeeming qualities for being a shy gal, just a stalker of a protag, she had really great potential with the beef between her and her sister and clan but it was wasted
@zethyne
@zethyne 3 жыл бұрын
but becoming head of the Hyuuga clan was not her goal at all
@zethyne
@zethyne 3 жыл бұрын
@ꜱᴏꜰɪᴀ ᴍᴀɴᴛᴇɢᴀ well, you're not the author to decide. we have what we have
@siddharthsuman3429
@siddharthsuman3429 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that except Temari Kishimoto did dirty to every female character in Naruto
@Alias2112
@Alias2112 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see there are other people who enjoy Sakura in the first Shippuden arc, in my eyes that is the best version of Sakura and by the end of the arc after a top tier fight against Sasori with Chiyo and learning from her, even as a kid, I felt excited about what Sakura was going to become. Especially seeing how far she had come since the start of the series, and then everything just devolved completely from there and I was only left wanting more of Kazekage rescue arc Sakura
@razkable
@razkable 2 жыл бұрын
She has her moments after but yeah fight wise she only had the sasori fight really...
@Smith-fg1qb
@Smith-fg1qb 9 ай бұрын
Considering the fact that we don’t get too many Sakura moments in shippuden that’s comparable to what she did in the kazekage rescue arc, it’s not much of a surprise
@mileania7287
@mileania7287 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto and Saskue's marriages seem so lifeless. I've always known it was because they couldn't be together.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 2 жыл бұрын
All these writers and their misogyny inadvertently writing the most homoromantic characters ever...just absurd...
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherb501 the fact that half the comment section is defending kishimoto's shitty writing shows how equally misogynistic they are. Not worth getting into a debate over them with how much backwards mental gymnastics they will do to defend the series
@subratanandy2142
@subratanandy2142 5 ай бұрын
If Sasuke was a girl , Naruto would've become the best tragic romance ever 😂.
@georgespiggott5615
@georgespiggott5615 3 жыл бұрын
if anything i think the anime ADDED a lot of sexism instead of toning it down. in the manga, becoming a medic takes a lot of time and skill, but in the anime literally all the women do it... because they're women? idk. it also upholds hinata as being perfect for naruto just because she's quiet, shy, busty, and obsessed with him. they never really help each other grow or change or even have a conversation that doesn't involve hinata fainting, running away, or declaring her love. she's basically a side character for most of the show who has no ambitions other than getting with naruto. i really wish they'd done more with her.
@ghostlyyin
@ghostlyyin 3 жыл бұрын
I agree bro. Hinata is a good character but is poorly written. She only got her big moment in Naruto the Last and that was just sad.
@georgespiggott5615
@georgespiggott5615 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostlyyin I was very disappointed by hinata honestly. She had a great backstory but she never lived up to that potential. Imagine if she became the head of the Hyuuga clan and abolished the caged bird seal in Neji's memory or something! But instead she's just focused on romance like every other female character except Tsunade.
@ride9581
@ride9581 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostlyyin the last wasn't even written by kishi he wouldn't have given her that too lol
@thelistener5440
@thelistener5440 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgespiggott5615 ... and except for Tenten! She is at some point shown to care for Lee in what could be seen as a romantic interest, but it is so vague that it could be as well not be there. The fillers actually did a great job with SOME of the female characters (like showing the development in the second Chunin Arc, and having solid female characters like Guren and Fuu), but the authors totally missed the opportunity to do something with Hinata. Maybe they expected there will be something by Kishimoto himself in the main story, but it never came, and then it was too late. But I totally agree with the medic stuff. I was so annoyed by that!
@georgespiggott5615
@georgespiggott5615 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelistener5440 fun fact: in the manga hinata is on fewer pages than tenten
@m1lrrrrrrrrr
@m1lrrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
Literally, any fanfiction writer can write better arcs for female characters.
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. No joke the Naruto fanfiction stories are more entertaining and gives more attention to detail on female and male characters equally.
@faith4657
@faith4657 3 жыл бұрын
Ok read that instead
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 3 жыл бұрын
@Alien Spider Ikr. I know a couple of good Naruto fanfiction stories. I can share you the link if you want.
@kashishsaxena222
@kashishsaxena222 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingnamor7777 Oh please share, I would love to read them...I recently finished the series
@frannava2463
@frannava2463 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingnamor7777 Yeah by destroying their personality and inserting the way fanfic writer interpret the character
@Skyehoppers
@Skyehoppers 2 жыл бұрын
The moment that made me realize how poorly Naruto's female characters were represented was during the tsukuyomi portion. Tsunade, the most competent and successful kunoichi in the series, has as her ultimate dream that her dead husband was Hokage instead of her....disappointing. I think ultimately this has something to do with how overworked mangaka tend to be. Kishimoto was very young when he started the series and worked on it constantly without any breaks. He didn't really have the chance to challenge the gender roles he grew up with and took for granted. He didnt have the time to read a wider range of other manga and understand that perhaps he could be writing his women better.
@Galvatronover
@Galvatronover 2 жыл бұрын
No I think it’s more to do with the man than the time limits There was no Time restrictions for him to make Sakura a better character
@sofac8252
@sofac8252 Жыл бұрын
Tsunade is the most well written female character in naruto and this scene is filler
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 6 ай бұрын
And he didn't have freedom because original he wanted to have more arc before the chunin exam but the editor forced him to cut down and tusnade and sakura were supposed to have a fight in the pain arc but that's was cut because of time to deliver
12 күн бұрын
I mean, Dan's goal WAS to become Hokage, that was never Tsunade's goal, she only became one after the village asked her and was then inspired by Naruto.
@talynhastime9343
@talynhastime9343 2 жыл бұрын
On one of the Castle SuperBeast podcast episodes, Woolie laid out everything wrong with how the narrative of Naruto ended up being in the last third, and how it felt like Kishimoto had an almost neurotic obsession with forcing someone to *accept* forgiveness and be redeemed, and not only that, but how everything turns out sunny and whatnot. Now this video makes me think that a “happily ever after” is removing all agency and personality from its female characters. Way to go, Kishi.
@MessedUpSystem
@MessedUpSystem 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think that Sasuke and Sakura becoming a couple in the end was just insulting. Insulting to Sakura for all the abuse she has suffered, insulting to Sasuke who didn't really have any feelings for her until he literally gave up denying her, and insulting for the audience for having to see such a forced romance
@zahraa4149
@zahraa4149 3 жыл бұрын
And the fact that Sasuke didn't even know what his daughter looked like is just the cherry on top lol
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 3 жыл бұрын
thats a shonen for ya. dont complain about lack of romance then there are animes made specifically for romance.
@avablobbity4757
@avablobbity4757 3 жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd that's just shitty writing. There are shonen that have better romantic relationships
@MessedUpSystem
@MessedUpSystem 3 жыл бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd yes I will complain, that's not lack of romance, that's just a bad writing and a insulting couple formation
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 3 жыл бұрын
@@MessedUpSystem u know the show itself told u its gonna be bad by being battle shonen without drama. u shouldve known from the moment u seen the tags. (adventure, shonen, comedy). the holy trinity of shitty anime. unless there is "drama,mystery,sci fi,thriller,psychological" tag its gonna be shit. there is literally no exception to this rule. complaining about it would only stress u out. instead watch something like steins gate,re zero
@lovelypanda8676
@lovelypanda8676 3 жыл бұрын
What I hated the most is that despite all the girls figthing over boys throughout the whole series, the guys never really gave a shit about the girls romantically, not counting silly crushes like Naruto liking Sakura. And thus, none of the couples that got together when they grew up makes sense (except Shikamaru and Temari, but I feel like that's only because this whole man vs woman thing was a part of Shikamaru's character). They had to give us a movie to make Naruto fall in love with Hinata because there was almost no evidence of him being interested in her romantically in the anime. Him getting super mad over her "death" in the Pain arc was such perfectly wasted potential, as it could've been a first step for him to realize he has some feelings but nothing was done about it after. Sasuke and Sakura seems even more stupid, because not only did Sasuke give zero fucks about Sakura, he even kept hurting her over and over again, and there's no way a girl keeps loving a guy that shits on them constantly unless they have serious mental issues... Ino and Sai never had a connection, other than Ino crushing over Sai's looks. And the list goes on. I get that this is a shounen anime, but if you're going to include romantic subplots, put some effort into them, at least for the main couples ffs.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. If you don't want to dedicate time to romance, or even female characters...fine...I guess...but then don't shill them if you aren't going to DO anything with them!
@CapeEniEer
@CapeEniEer 3 жыл бұрын
yeah sasuke and naruto chose their wives solely because "thats what men do".... the show reflects Japan's somewhat fucked up culture
@eldritchcupcakes3195
@eldritchcupcakes3195 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, but Sakura having mental issues does sound likely- and that’s not a dig at her either. She literally repressed her thoughts and feelings to the point where a different entity (inner Sakura) formed. That’s not normal. (And I don’t think she’s her conscience or anything, and the point of the subconscious is that you don’t notice it. So-)
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 3 жыл бұрын
@@CapeEniEer So you can see why America likes it so much.
@LegendaryCaptain
@LegendaryCaptain 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Choji and Karui never interacted once in shippuden
@gookelli
@gookelli 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has watched Naruto and Naruto Shippuden all this year as a young adult it was always a glaring disappointment to see Sakura, Hinata, and many other females characters arc's pan out (or the complete absence of an arc at all). Sakura grew so much during the training period, and it was so great to witness her truly impressive skills as a medical-nin and as a clever fighter in the first arc of Shippuden. Not only was Sakura the most visible kunoichi, but she was also just a regular ninja not from any notable clan or already caught up in the existing lore. The writers missed a great opportunity to have great representation for girls as well as for anyone trying their best. It just sucks that we as the viewer just have to kind of connect the dots about how she got there and what exactly her motivations are. And she does have motivations outside of catching up to Naruto and being acknowledged by Sasuke, but they are seldom addressed. Her pining for Sasuke however, had to be forced down our throats every chance there was. I know consensus on Boruto is mixed, but our only hope is that Sakura's daughter Sarada will be given the spotilight as an incredible kunoichi who is an equal to Boruto, not just someone for him to marry someday. Sarada establishes herself as being one of the top ninja in her class and makes her dreams to be hokage clear early on in the show. Perhaps her character arc will be able to overcome so many of the failures of her mother's.
@odette4059
@odette4059 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that kishimoto was writing a pretty die hard ship between the 2 main boys without even _knowing_ must say something
@blue1584
@blue1584 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol... seriously how did he manage to accidentally(?) write such a beautiful, meaningful, and heartfelt relationship between Naruto and Sasuke, and not even realize that it’s way better than any of the “actual” romantic relationships in the story...
@yYSilverFoxYy
@yYSilverFoxYy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, he could write male characters but not females. Many writers have the same issue so they end up accidentally writing a well developed romance between two guys. Real “romantic” stories can’t write good chemistry between characters for the same reason. Everything gets overshadowed by the male/female dynamic. And this is how I got into shipping male/male only.
@ashskullz
@ashskullz 3 жыл бұрын
@@blue1584 what's was so beautiful about it? Naruto obsession with sasuke was the most annoying thing i ever seen in any anime history
@KingkyLeor
@KingkyLeor 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashskullz i'm gay af but i agree like damn even i'm not that desperate, i honestly shipped naruto and sakura as a kid because they were simp losers
@blue1584
@blue1584 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashskullz Well personally, I think it’s beautiful how they found comfort in each other’s existence when they were both completely alone, how they understood each other more than anyone else, how they were each other’s very first friends, and how they cared so much about each other that they were willing to die for each other multiple times. I personally think it’s beautiful that Naruto never gave up on Sasuke, even when everyone else did. And that Sasuke, who was willing to cut all ties with everyone else, ultimately couldn’t sever his bond with Naruto. And I think that it’s quite poetic and beautiful that it was ultimately his bond with Naruto that saved him from continuing down a path of darkness. I suppose whether or not you find these moments ‘beautiful’ is subjective, but it’s impossible to deny that their relationship is the most well developed in the series, and the most central to the plot and their character arcs.
@daveadrian492
@daveadrian492 3 жыл бұрын
You telling me that Kushina had the Kyuubi but only became a housewife?
@ShadowSkyX
@ShadowSkyX 3 жыл бұрын
Minato was basically her protector because heaven forbid she learn to protect herself better with or without him. She merely existed to keep kurama sealed inside her due to her being uzamaki. The episodes do show how tough as nails she is at least. It's a 180 that Naruto is basically told and technically forced into learning how not very long after becoming a shinobi.
@naveenjacob2440
@naveenjacob2440 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSkyX Wait, was she even a housewife?
@Toshimi1043
@Toshimi1043 3 жыл бұрын
She also had the dream of being Hokage. She got to be a Hokage's wife and another one's mother instead.
@naveenjacob2440
@naveenjacob2440 3 жыл бұрын
@@Toshimi1043 I mean it was also Orochimaru's desire to be Hokage as well as Fugaku and many others. Minato was just supremely skilled. I think Kushina deserved a cool fight though
@ferael0013
@ferael0013 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Kushina and Minato were both working, and alternated between house care and missions. Both were shown "house wife" types of outfits at some point.
@MomoAfterDark
@MomoAfterDark 9 ай бұрын
Naruto failed ALL its characters not named Naruto or not having the last name Uchiha. RIP Neji.
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 8 ай бұрын
Goatkashi 😷
@heliotype9591
@heliotype9591 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit you had me at the fact that not only are you talking about this as a straight man and an anime fan so intelligently, and the way you went in depth about the misrepresentation of Sakura and Hinata it held my attention for every second, and at the END when you talked about representation when you mentioned Non-binary people such as myself HOLY SHIT DUDE you damn well earned my sub, thank you so much for talking about this
@ladyblubel
@ladyblubel 3 жыл бұрын
I think one character that particularly puts this into light is Kushina. When she was introduced, she declared that she wanted to be Hokage. Instead, her husband became Hokage and she became a housewife who died young without making any statement for herself beyond “Naruto’s mom” and “Last Nine Tails Jinchuriki” It’s just an interesting situation when you consider that Naruto was exactly the same as her - outcasted, wanted to be Hokage, had kids - and he managed to accomplish all of that
@kyleward7417
@kyleward7417 3 жыл бұрын
That's because Minato was already shown to be Hokage in the first chapter and writer was making up story as he goes, so obviously he can't make Kushina into Hokage all of a sudden because of some stupid representation.
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
makes you wonder..who was her sensei
@thelistener5440
@thelistener5440 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyleward7417 That does not mean that they could have done something more interesting with her. Also, since she was introduced much later when it was already clear Minato was the one to be Hokage, they just could have given her a different goal, and accomplishing this. It's not that hard.
@kyleward7417
@kyleward7417 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelistener5440 There are countless "could've" and possibilities, and her character wasn't really important enough for Kishi to make a whole different role for her, considering she only shows up for Naruto to get KCM mode and had no relevance to the story. "They could've given her a different Role, it's not that hard" Why? Why exactly should they give her a role? Go ahead and answer that and I might take you seriously, SJW.
@thelistener5440
@thelistener5440 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyleward7417 Like all female characters. You are just proving OP's point. Thanks.
@MrPF
@MrPF 3 жыл бұрын
You guys talking about how Hinata and Sakura weren't given the proper treatment, imagine me, a Tenten fan A character that was done so poorly that most of her actual characterization came from the Rock Lee comedy spin off (which is severely underrated)
@spacewinter
@spacewinter 3 жыл бұрын
Yea. It's a meme now how little screen time she is given.
@bm1259
@bm1259 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I got to "tenten fan" and I just had to laugh. But in all seriousness this is just a problem in shounen which sucks fucking ass tbh.
@glistening7178
@glistening7178 3 жыл бұрын
@@bm1259 I wish there was shounen created for women and girls.
@bm1259
@bm1259 3 жыл бұрын
@@glistening7178 Well that kinda contradicts the shounen genre title. Something that would probably get given the genre Shoujo and I doubt japan would just get rid if that separation.
@YightLagami
@YightLagami 3 жыл бұрын
@@glistening7178 Bleach and One Piece do better jobs at writing female characters. Also, Magical Girl genre is probably the closest to what you will get to in terms of that. Wonder Egg Priority is a recent show this season which you might like
@greatpretender6470
@greatpretender6470 2 жыл бұрын
Sakura: just wants Sasuke Hinata: just wants Naruto Ino: wants any hot dude I swear Temari and Tsunade is the only good female characters.
@Croach193
@Croach193 9 ай бұрын
“How Naruto failed its female characters” As if Naruto didn’t fail every single character who wasn’t Naruto or Sasuke for the exact same reasons, and not just its female characters.
@keezara9166
@keezara9166 8 ай бұрын
Fair enough point, but I think the women had it far worse tho
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 27 күн бұрын
@@keezara9166 So true😔
@andri7037
@andri7037 3 жыл бұрын
I swear Naruto and Sasuke felt more like a reasonable romantic relationship than any other couple in the entire franchise
@full--metal
@full--metal 2 жыл бұрын
ah yeah the famous when a show tries to be so painstakingly straight it becomes gay phenomenon
@jeremiahogunfuwa9187
@jeremiahogunfuwa9187 2 жыл бұрын
Please stop Swearing.
@anoushkashenoy692
@anoushkashenoy692 2 жыл бұрын
@@full--metal I dislike shipping gay ships over the canon straight, but dear god, does so many animes (and western tv shows too) make the main male friendship somehow more romantic than the actual intended romantic relationship.
@holls8991
@holls8991 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@VA-kz7vy
@VA-kz7vy 2 жыл бұрын
This is true, couldn't help but laugh at the realization that Sasuke and Naruto are a more understandable and working relationship than most. What the hell
@adam.n-steve
@adam.n-steve 3 жыл бұрын
About the "women = healers" thing, the opposite can also happen. When male characters are kind and caring, they're often framed as boring or uninteresting. When Demon Slayer came out, ppl complain about Tanjiro's kindness and empathy and the same thing happened with Fantastic Beast. Ppl idea of an "interesting male character" is often a cynic who thinks he's smarter than everyone else due to his dark past like Sherlock Holmes. It does make him complex but a kind person can also be complex or be a cynic and still be empathetic. Society values kindness only when it is in women and when male characters are kind, they often do it to gain the love interest not because they really are.
@SHEESHAW100
@SHEESHAW100 3 жыл бұрын
They say that about Midoriya too and irritates me even when I havent watched the show.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 3 жыл бұрын
I mean let's be real here. Tanjiro is pretty generic even for shounen main characters. It would have been better writing if he wasn't that kind before and the trauma and understanding of suffering made him realize the nobility in kindness and respect for life.
@yelenasimp2936
@yelenasimp2936 3 жыл бұрын
I will never get ppl who hate on Tanjiro or any main male characters for being “too kind and caring”. Tanjiro’s kindness or just his entire personality is the main reason why he’s one of my most favorite characters.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 3 жыл бұрын
@@yelenasimp2936 It's why he's generic. He's a dime a dozen. Shounen are mostly geared towards boys and boys usually don't find kindness to be a greater virtue than being stoic or interesting as a character (rightfully so). I have seen hundreds of Tanjiro in my time. He is simply boring and uninspired. Pretty much a Gary Stu.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 3 жыл бұрын
​@@miki_lla402 I counted that in when I claimed he was generic. Sympathy for your foe is pretty much universal for a shounen MC. That Naruto is using talk-no-jutsu is a side-effect of that trait. His basic nature is the same as every other shounen MC. He's kind and considerate, he's stubborn, he has sympathy for the enemy, he grows stronger easily and is uniquely giften in some way or another, he is morally right all the time, he's self-righteous, he's likeable by most and easily acquires friends. He has some specific reason to pursue his goal and follows the hero's journey. As I said, generic shounen MC. You set the bar pretty fucking low imo.
@zuu876
@zuu876 2 жыл бұрын
naruto will always remain one of my favorite anime show, but that doesn't mean i'm blind to its flaws. the poor representation of women didn't only affect that image of women in naruto, but what it also did is create a lot of "out of nowhere" moments and plots that were never finished nor developed, especially when these characters play a big role in the story. and people who watch the show don't want to get deep into why a particular female chacracter annoys them, they just spit hate without realizing that they don't hate the character but how poorly they're written. when i was watching naruto as a teenage girl i remember always re-writing parts of the female characters for myself and making them more "interesting" in my head, because it always felt like what information i was given wasn't enough
@HienPham-ow5ky
@HienPham-ow5ky 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this 💯👍
@Mr_Mistah
@Mr_Mistah 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto isn't a poor representation of women and it never has been. It's a poor representation of feminism, which doesn't represent women but rather an ideology.
@blurryy6423
@blurryy6423 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like naruto and fandom
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
But he wrote some good female characters
@tactly5060
@tactly5060 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Mistah the hokage of the series is a woman tho and they legit had a segment with shikamaru and his dad talking about equality and shit between them
@trueblueedits4673
@trueblueedits4673 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is the strong men in this series could've justifiably been women and no huge rewrite would have to take place. The lack of truly powerful female characters definitely highlights antiquated gender rolls being superimposed upon a fictional world and story for sure. The way anything "feminine" in the story revolves around and serves as a means to an end to the "masculine” is certainly troubling as well.
@elbarto4069
@elbarto4069 11 ай бұрын
Why tho there is no reason for them to be woman not everybody in anything always has to be like you
@kof2001
@kof2001 3 жыл бұрын
Always bothered me when Madara completed the Infinite Tsukuyomi and all male characters dreamed with the most variable dreams, but all female characters dreamed about living a romance
@addictedtoair1351
@addictedtoair1351 3 жыл бұрын
Except Tenten and Temari, and we have rock Lee who still simping for sakura in his dream
@kof2001
@kof2001 3 жыл бұрын
@@addictedtoair1351 It's ok for Rock Lee (and Choji) cause we have other guys wanting other things but for the girls we have just Tenten and her dream is even worse because what she wants in manga, is Guy and Rock Lee's personal accomplishment. Her dream isnt even for herself. At least in anime they did a good job exploring her dream in a different way and added a dream for Temari too
@abobanger9054
@abobanger9054 3 жыл бұрын
@@kof2001 what was temaris dream again? I only remember something with shikamaru and her parting their ways
@addictedtoair1351
@addictedtoair1351 3 жыл бұрын
@@abobanger9054 temari's dream is to become a respectable and dependable big sister
@abobanger9054
@abobanger9054 3 жыл бұрын
@@addictedtoair1351 ohh yes i remember now
@olenka2456
@olenka2456 3 жыл бұрын
I realise there's just one female character in Naruto who: - have much screen time (unlike Tenten,Temari,Shizune etc) - have motivation that is not about men (Sakura,Hinata) - shown without any love to men just to substantiate their decision (Konan and Tsunade) - is not sexualized (Tsunade,Hinata) - not being obsessed with men (Ino,Karin) - doesn't refuse warrior "job" so they can be housewives (Kurenai,Kushina) Guess who is this?? Grandma Chiyo!
@exotwicevelvet5137
@exotwicevelvet5137 3 жыл бұрын
i just noticed.😅cool
@iananderson4754
@iananderson4754 2 жыл бұрын
👍 at least he made one
@kingnamor7777
@kingnamor7777 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Incredible detail statement and I never of thought her in that way until now.
@oas.rimmee
@oas.rimmee 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rebecamendez5456
@rebecamendez5456 2 жыл бұрын
she has always been best girl
@ratsinmamouf
@ratsinmamouf 2 жыл бұрын
Avatar the Last Air Bender managed to tackle this exact problem very well
@thegenericviewer7439
@thegenericviewer7439 2 жыл бұрын
Kishimoto: Gives female characters cool abilities Me: :) Also Kishimoto: Never has female characters display their cool abilities Me: :(
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