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We all know the reason Goku sacrificed himself was because he knocked up Chi Chi the night before the Cell Games and he preferred to train then raise a son/daughter.

Here's my theory: When entering the time chamber, goku says that he's going to be stronger than everyone but gohan is going to be stronger than him. Goku wanted gohan to take his place and look after everyone because unlike him, Gohan was a better suited protector than he was. He understood what the risk of just existing posed to everyone even before the fight began. When he woke up from the heart virus, he changed in perspective. He likely planned to sit back like roshi did once he trained gohan. Roshi also said that it's hard to believe that there was a time where he was the strongest. I think goku entered a similar state of mind. Just as roshi surrendered in the tenkaichi budokai, Goku surrendered to cell because he accepted that he was no longer the strongest. So with the lives of his loved ones on the line, he made a decision, no more putting their lives at risk. This would be his final gift to his loved ones and gladly hand over the responsibility of protecting them to his son who deserved that role more than he did. With a smile on his face, he assured his own death and the protection of his loved ones

Completely forgot this guy existed but I’m glad I have found him again

I think it would've been out of character if Goku did instant transmission back to Earth. Leaving King Kai to die(who is one of his masters, and the reason why he is strong the way he is)and not staying. Because if he left, it would've almost been a rude move, which is already messy because it's King Kai's planet. Him staying showed respect to King Kai as if saying, "Cell being here is my fault, so I am going to take on the consequence." This is the heart of Goku💯

Tien’s tri beam against semi perfect Cell was essentially a self detonation. He was using his life force for that maneuver too. Hence him being able to stall Cell whom is vastly more powerful than him.

Cell stated that in the super form of super sayain they could bulk their muscles with energy, so because of his durable body he could just for all his energy into himself to surpass the power needed. Basically a blob energy bomb.

Fun fact semi perfect cell took absolutely zero damage from anyone. Not Vegeta, not trunks, not even ssj2 Gohan. He got punched around by all of them but not even a scratch or a busted lip.

In the manga cell basically blows up as soon as they get to king kais. A few seconds at most but goku would still have to concentrate on someones ki to get back while under pressure. Also cell has 17s bomb in addition to his explosion technique. If gero can build androids and tank bred bugs that can kill freeza and everyone else with ease (without trunks interference), then he can design bombs that can kill them post time chamber. Dragonball is full of impossible magical and scientific feats.

Goku’s death made perfect sense. He clearly states he noticed how earth was constantly attacked and in danger due to people after him, Plus Gohan had already surpassed him in power. He was passing the torch down the line and just trained in the other world

Vegeta used a partial self destruct in the tournament of power

I like how he puts er on words that doesn't have an er on them

Plot armor. That is the true enemy of dragon ball story telling.

Here's one possible explanation, which I used to believe: The bomb in Cell's body was not related to his Ki power but rather an autonomous device designed as the last resort. Kinda like a nuke. It's components may seem mudane when inactive but once you put them together it relases gargantuine amounts of energy which obliterates everything in it's wake. Still I find your point pretty valid.

I would theorize that goku didn’t want to survive the explosion not so much that he couldn’t. So his guard was down just like how he could be damage by a laser with his guard down, a weaker cell could kill him if he wasn’t trying to block it. I think he just didn’t think out the king Kai part and was an unintended causality

I had an interesting thought. As we know, Cell has the DNA and abilities of all the Z-fighters. That includes Tien, who in this very arc has shown to be able to use Life-force conversion attacks at a much greater efficiency than anything we've seen before, punching FAR above his weight class. If Semi-Cell at a much higher base is able to pull off a self destruct with Tiens proficiency at converting Lifeforce into power, there's no telling how insane his Selfdestruct multiplier might be.

If a scientist can create two cyborgs and other artificial lifeforms, powerful enough to kill the Z fighters, including Goku then, what makes you think they cant create bombs powerful enough to kill them? You gotta really think about this.

The "realization" people use to justify Goku's death doesn't work because the Android Saga happened even when he died in the Trunks timeline. Buu further cements that, because that too was going to happen without him

Self-sacrificing blasts are much much more powerful than power normally accessible for a fighter. Majin Vegeta case, Majin Buu case. And it was a direct blast.

maybe because like you said about the life force with his power of frieza cells that increases his destructive power immensely will be able to kill goku easliy.

I think that cell's detonation was more powerful than other similar attacks in Dragon Ball because he had 17 absorbed and we know that 17 and 18 had bombs in them. What if the bomb multiplied the power of the explosion thus killing a weakened Goku

You're right! All arguments are supported with facts. Glad to have my mind opened on this subject matter! I never thought about this 😂

Cell was bluffing about blowing up upon being attacked because it took time to gather that energy to blow himself up. If Gohan fired a full power Kamehameha, cell would've been obliterated energy and all.

I agree to a point. He thought he was the problem for the earth, so he decided to die thinking it would fix and it did for 7 years. The earth has never had that long if peace before.

I was always under the impression that Goku used instant transmission as a one way trip and he was too drained of energy to make the trip back.

Goku couldn't transmit back to Earth because there was simply not enough time, before Goku transmits to Cell and has his emotional speech to Gohan Cell said there were only 10 seconds left before he explodes, when Goku was on King Kai planet there was only like 1 second left despite on the anime the scene looked like it was quite long (and in fact was) and the reason why it killed Goku was simply because the self destruction of Cell had a higher power level than Goku SSJ full power, just because the warriors power level is lower than the other warrior doesn't mean his attacks are overall weaker, an attack or a self destruction blast can be higher than the stronger warrior power level that is why Goku died on King Kai planet

If goku didn't take a senzu bean in the manga (so in canon) then it makes 100% sense why he didn't survive the blast. He was so weak after fighting cell that even a cell Jr, who is apparently less than half as strong as cell himself, was able to completely wipe goku. So after all that beating i wouldn't be suprised if goku was weaker than Semi-perfect cell or only a little stronger, which is why even a 2x boost to power for s-p Cell would be enough to obliterate him.

I think it was probably more towards the fact that the earth would've blown up and the space vacuum killed everyone as opposed to the blast itself

Cell is a saiyan hybrid. He had been manipulating zenkais throughout his battles. When reverted to semi perfect he probably wasn't as weak as we all thought. He maxed out his ki with his final attack which seems to have been enough to kill goku and king Kai at that

I havent fully watched the vid yet, but we remember that Perfect Cell was terrified of 16 blowing himself up, and 16 was far weaker than Cell. In fact, one could argue it would have worked, since 16s bomb was removed. If he could have tanked it, it would have been written as such.

But, the thing is, Goku had this planned since the Room of Spirit and Time. Goku saw Gohan's potential, and knew, upon going to check on Cell and show off to Korin, that Gohan was stronger than Cell. He knew his time in the sun was up, and he wanted Gohan to take over as Earth's Defender, like he took over for Roshi. And it's very clear in the Manga that he didn't take a Senzu. The Senzu also have a funny effect when Toriyama drew their healing power, of also cleaning up scratches and scuff marks on them. Why else are Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha all perfectly no worse for wear after Trunks gives them beans. Goku, however, is still shown with those scuff marks and blood coming from his mouth. He's Not Healed yet, and what's more, they have to wait until Dende to heal Gohan, so perhaps they were out of Beans entirely. But, back on King Kai's planet when Cell exploded, Goku's Instant Transmission needs to lock onto someone to move back and forth. This act needs time. During his entire speech to Gohan, his fingers are on his head. He could have been searching for King Kai, someone far away from anyone else. The Only place he could think of to save as many people as possible. Now, even if it wouldn't take him time to Lock onto someone else to teleport away, He'd be leaving King Kai (a friend) die to save everyone. Goku isn't that heartless, and may have chosen to go with him, with the notion now fully solidified that Gohan can do it. He can protect everyone on Earth, and later he came to the understanding, "No, I should stay dead." TL;DR: Goku was still injured, Instant Transmission takes time to lock onto targets very far away, He didn't want King Kai to die alone, and he trusted his son could protect things.

The time it takes to speak is pretty much ignored in most fast movement scenarios in anime, it's there for somewhat of a narration, making the plot more interesting, so saying Goku had no time is acceptable in my opinion. Regarding tanking the blast, I'd say that self destruction of different characters should not be treated similarly as far as power scaling goes, because it counts as a technique. Just like how normal ki blasts, the kamehameha and the final flash are very different. Chaozu's is probably like a normal blast with minimal power, and Cell's is likely a special one with a ridiculous multiplier. His visual change also shows that it's different

You can’t hold your breadth in space the pressure would force it out

Tbh it's never made sense to me that gero could even create a threat great enough to hurt any of the sayians. The androids were humans and there isn't a single element on earth that can withstand a super saiyan punch, goku/vegeta power up too quick and they could blow up the earth. The fact a human could create them without alien tech never made sense. Even with infinite energy, it's not infinite output. Maybe electricity at high enough volts/amps could hurt them, but that's still a maybe.

Cell wasn't going to kill everyone from the explosion. He was taking the planet out to kill everyone, but it has to be more dramatic then just pointing his hand at the ground and blowing the planet up. He knows they can't breath in space and would all die with him.

On top of that semi perfect cell explosion might be greater than his own

Couldn’t Bulma just design a bunch of powerful androids that could self destruct to take on whatever threat that may arise

*sees the title of the video* now you have my attention 👀

Almost as if Toriyama was flying by the seat of his pants making shit up 😂

Goku didnt feel right doing king kai like that. Had to go out with him

Goku didnt take the bean if you took a looking at the anime or manga goku was Still battle damged so safe to say he was still on low health...

Just based off the title of this video not even Cell should’ve survived this explosion. He actually should’ve been defeated when goku hit him with the instant transmission kamehameha because by cells logic as long as some tiny cell in his head remains intact then he can regenerate indefinitely. Goku literally blew off the entire top half of his body and left nothing but the legs. Gohan beat him so bad to the point where he couldn’t maintain his perfect form anymore and spit out 18. So how can a weaker imperfect cell regenerate from an explosion that would’ve destroyed the earth and also back into his perfect form?!?!?!

Love the video, but you kinda answered your own question here 7:34. Cell's explosion is his version of the android's bomb, it works the same, and they could not blast him away as suggested, that would only trigger the explosion. Remember how #18 threatened Cell? Also if a miniature bomb in the android's chest could possibly end life on Earth, is it really that unbelievable that Cell, while using his entire body as the bomb, could have enough power to kill Goku?

In a world where death is not permanent, no one takes dying seriously.

If he's teleporting to King Kai's place from Earth, is it even a death?

great videos

I mean at the time it made perfect sense gohan was supposed to take over as the main character. I believe die hard goku fans got upset at the time and Akira thought it would be better for the fans to stop being upset by leaving goku as the mc. Imo they didn’t have to do gohan dirty tho after straight up gave him the Yamcha treatment for a long time lol

Goku didnt have enough energy to teleport back. What didn't make sense was Goku staying dead

there was so much that didn't make sense in the cell saga im baffled why you picked the one thing that did make sense

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to keep things simple cell + kaio planet explosion = you cant survive unless you have regenerative powers wich goku doesn't have if cell exploded on earth he would kill everyone just because of the earth explosion

I always see it as an alternative way of storytelling of being similar to future trunks time line. Goku is gone Gohan losses an arm in battle Cell cheap shots Trunks Thats what i always think of when watching it

Would have made for sense for gohan to take the lead role after gokus death, gokus journey as a martial artist, a fighter, and even father (though piccolo did a better job) but the training Goku and gohan did before the cell games make it clear that gokus father role was used up and further developed gohan and himself as a character. To me, Goku dieing makes sense if they went through making gohan the main character like in the early buu saga as well as making Goku having the passing the tourch tone or letting the new generation taking the lead as Goku himself said. jiraiyas death did that very well in Naruto shippuden. This is they both of those character feel bland because gohan is turned into a side character while gokus character in dragon ball super isn’t as good as the one in z because the one in super already completed his story so making him the lead role in super is kinda off putting so as him defeating buu when his premise was for the generation to take the lead. His death was His end of his story

This may be a hot take, but Dragon Ball is an anime. And as we all know, the strongest any attack can be in any anime is done with bladed weapons. Trunks is the strongest character in the universes.

By time gohan had cell spit out 18 the Saiyan as could’ve jumped in and blast him and no sacrifice had to be made by goku

"Vegeta could have held his breath for a minute"... Really bro? The lack of atmosphere in space causes your blood to boil immediately and for all liquid in your eyes and mouth to boil immediately... You literally boil alive. You could have easily Googled that and you'd have your answer

I feel like goku dying is just as simple as him not wanting to be known as a huge dick and let king kai, bubbles, and Gregory be the only ones who died. Cuz think of it, would goku forgive himself if he took cell just to go kill his old master lol

Let’s not forget that Cell and the Androids key purpose is to destroy Goku, so I feel like if that move is designed to destroy anyone it’s probably gonna be Goku. Just a thought though

The Manga makes Sense if he was weakened. I always thought about the things you mentioned

I explain Moro’s explosion limit away by it not being on purpose. The others are actively trying to cause explosion of mass destruction, Moro would have been resisting it though. Now what I can’t explain is how Earth survived an hour of a raging Broly wailing on Frieza. You’d think Earth would be looking like the ToP stage lol.

Gokus death made absolute sense gohan eas suppose to be the main character and the editors stopped it

moro destroying the galaxy is a misstranslation

Y'know what that is a confusing thing. Goku was way stronger than semi-perfect cell so it doesn't even make sense how he was vaporized by cell's explosion

weak explosion? what are on about the self destruct from cell can kill anyone as much as final flash can kill perfect cell who was way stronger than vegeta. we learned this since the fight on raditz a death move is a death move goku also took cell and his death was instant. goku decided he was taking cell out of the picture with himself when he said "bye bye everyone"

i believe this was the last time dragon ball actually stuck by special techniques and abilities remember when krillin could kill but only cut fireza's tail with kienzan? when burter was the fastest in the universe? i believe that was it cell's self destruction would eradicate entire solar system but king kai's planet is completely different palce you know something to make sense

Maybe Goku lost energy against Cell Jrs? They each are probably stronger than 2nd form Cell. Also maybe using instant transmission someone against their will costs more energy?

Instead of bringing cell to king Kai planet bring him to other world somewhere away from ppl then teleport right back to earth.😒

i find it funny that the only sui attack that worked was the saibaman's xD

Dragon Ball fans need to understand that Dragon Ball simply has bad writing. There's no explanation for 90% of what happens. Now to be fair, we can pick apart anything these days. Including real life.

I agree

Anyone know the game? 0:56

Plot m8

Why is the tittle wrong?

Thank You bro i was waiting for this video i will support you bro but i have a question is it possible for cell's explosion to be able to kill Majin vegeta ssj 2 or goku ssj 2 from the buu saga ???

Why didn't goku just let go and go back?

1:30,majin buu was roughfly four times stronger than majin vegeta,and still got almost evaporated from vegetas self destruct thecnique,an aweakened goku taking a whole blast with the whole life esence of cell was obviously going to kill him Also gohan was probably going to die in space somewaht damaged after cells explosion,becuase he cant survive in space you know

Nappa is not 6.5 times stronger than Chiaotzu. Power levels were exponential at early levels. Its only when they get way higher do they start becoming linear. Nappa was probably over 20 or even 50 times stronger.

Well I just believe that Goku didn't want to die he was the only one who could transmission But anyways , God bless everyone who comes across this comment 🔥✝️🕊🙌🏿

2h

This may just be headcanon, but Goku’s death makes perfect sense. You can’t rewrite history. Goku was supposed to die due to the heart disease and Trunks interrupted the process. The end result was still the same because he sacrificed his life to defeat Cell. Goku was never supposed to survive until we got the Buu saga retcon.

I know I’ll get dumb replies but what ever. There is no big logic to figure out here, the reason he died is cuz he’s not that strong. Said the same thing when vegeta died from freiza blowing up the planet. There’s no contradictions, it’s just dragon balls who care more about gokus ability than the story. He couldn’t tank it cuz he’s not that strong. Saitama will win, super man will win, and this is another video where people have to sit there contemplate stupidity instead of recognizing they don’t understand the abilities of the show that well.

I don't think Otherworld even had the "space is a vacuum" thing that Golu and the other Super Saiyans would have had to worry about on Earth, so it's not like he'd have suffocated once King Kai's world got deatroyed.

I’ve always wondered, why do you call Tien a role model?