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Omar Ramahi

Omar Ramahi

2 жыл бұрын

A discussion on the meaning of Salat in the Mushaf (aka the Qur'an)
by Dr. Omar Ramahi

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@vakilahmad8085
@vakilahmad8085 Жыл бұрын
God has told me to tell people to read Quran, this is a message from Allah .... Dr. Omar Ramahi, I thank you for your brilliant research of Gods word ...
@harishaneef26
@harishaneef26 2 жыл бұрын
AL salat is indeed referring to a spiritual practice the goal of which is to maintain the highest thoughts throughout the day and this is achieved through zikrullah ( commemoration of God ) . Highest and purest thoughts eliminates the lowest and impure thoughts which is why GOD says al salat removes us from fahsha ( evil ) . Spiritual practices are integral for a believers spiritual development and purification , al salat being a very effective one as it involves disruption of one's activities during the day and night to commemorate God.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
it's what your prayers are.
@ariariski1418
@ariariski1418 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you make debates with some salafi schoolares so many people know who you are and your channel grow. People must wake up from the takfiri thinking of sunni shia sofi and all other sects and come back to Allahs sunna
@henryseva1
@henryseva1 Күн бұрын
Sir it would have been most effective with any effort for visuals. Or a link where we could read ths very important lecture. It requires "deliberation" ie thorough undrstanding. Help us
@31aicirtl
@31aicirtl 2 жыл бұрын
Subhan’Allah brother, I agree with your understanding of “Surah”
@ObeysGod
@ObeysGod Жыл бұрын
Based on my understanding, salat can encompass a physical activity but it is not the exclusive meaning.. Here's why I say this.. Allah says... All we asked of them is that they..1. Believe in Allah alone,...2. Establish regular salat,.. 3. Give in Zakat... Then Allah says that such is the PERFECT SYSTEM.. Perfect means nothing needs to be added to it... So now, if this is Allah's perfect system, where is righteous conduct? Isn't that a mandate for salvation? One of those 3 perfect elements in the perfect system has to encompass righteousness right? In my understanding, Zakat means purity... How to give in purity? It can be money or it can be good conduct. Allah asked... Who would like to loan to Allah a beautiful loan of righteousness?... So you see, Zakat is establishing a purifying of our conduct by spending our money and our time doing righteous deeds.. We learn of these deeds from the Quran..Salat would therefore be establishing a regular habit of following closely making a constant connection to the doctrine that teaches us these deeds. Keep in mind that Allah says that the remembrance of Him is the focal point of salat. So you can remember Him by upholding the doctrine which is what salat is and the result of upholding the doctrine becomes your Zakat. Nothing wrong with doing a physical prayer but don't think for one second that a ritual prayer keeps you nearest to Allah.... It is your conduct in upholding the doctrine Salat is establishing a regular habit of making a strong connection between you and Allah and His doctrine and in doing so, you are giving in zakat
@AfsarKhan-gb1og
@AfsarKhan-gb1og Жыл бұрын
Sir the great, Brother Omar All your lecture are superlative great. During the last ten years trying to understand the Quran the deeper getting into it the farther getting away from science of hahadees, consensus and mainstream. Your sessions are value added. I convey my msg to people "Read and understand your own Quran yourself" it is your's, so own it and yourself, indulge your efforts and Sincerity Allah will guide you. Finally I conclude by expressing " Salat and Zakat is a system where Deen Islam revolves around it". So salat as namaz rituals may be a smallest component of salat system. Zakat is not a charity as 2.5% once in a year may be a smallest component of Zakat system as helping by money. Gifts as sdaqats as Fard all round the year but Zakat is not Fard. Correct and guide me on my undestanding.
@12good101
@12good101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much brother. I sometimes wonder if these so called scholars even understood arabic.
@aloshmadala8858
@aloshmadala8858 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and answers many questions.. love your explanation brother omar!
@hussainqadri5682
@hussainqadri5682 Жыл бұрын
Understand Qur'an and try Ur best to follow it is the Sala And apply in daily life.and pray to only Allah.
@inhumanhyena
@inhumanhyena Жыл бұрын
Salaam Dr. Ramahi. I've just started exploring your work (on salat and nasakh thus far). Your insight has been valuable, subhanAllah. I would have loved to had attended this class/discussion live as there are a number of details I picked up on in my own (continuous) research on "salat" which I would be interested in your thoughts on. Personally, I've found the word "adherence(s)/adhere" ect to be the best and most flexible translation of salat, though I also found "connection" to be a useful translation, and it's inherently related to "adherence". In certain verses the implication appeared to be referring to "support" ("yussalee", traditionally "bless"), while the word "correspondence" also seemed to also work specifically in the proper noun usage of the word (as-Salat). Though my understanding has always been that the "form" wasn't as important as the content, and that the necessary ingredient was the "dhkr". Aside from the fact that we can't all equally assume the form (physically), God never makes it explicit, and if it's considered a matter of worship, then I believe this is extremely personal in terms of what form it takes. I began to view the proper noun usage as a reference to the transmission of the Quran and it's adherences to the believers ("establishing" (rather than literal standing) "the correspondence") for Allah's remembrance (including the recitation of verses). My impression is that it also is something meant to be habitual ("scheduled practice"). I had noticed that the majority of references to the proper noun variation seemed to refer to two periods of time in the day (rather than five). When I read "at the two ends of the day and the nearness of night", I understood this as a reference to dawn and dusk (two ends of the day which are near to night/between night and day on the opposite ends of the day). I also noticed that the verses that established the times of day when dependents must give privacy or request time (as in 24:58), that Salat, again, is only mentioned twice, at dawn and at dusk, while noon time is mentioned as when the garments are put aside (the end or break in the work day?) with no mention of as-Salat. While in verse 50:39 God tells the prophet to glorify God in praise before the sunrise, before the sunset, and in the night, while never using the word Salat. And finally, the night time is "defined" within the verses on the Ramadan fast to begin at the sun's decline beneath the horizon, so we know the night begins at dusk. I also never found the terms "asr" nor "dhur" or "maghreb" used to refer to the Salat in the Quran. There's even a Hadith which use "wusta" (a Quranic word with the general meaning "moderate/justly/balanced, though translated as "middle" by "traditionalists") to refer to a "middle prayer". More specifically, I read a Hadith that suggests that the Quranic verse referencing "salat al-wusta" was revealed using the word "asr" and God changed it. Of course, it would not make much rational sense (that God could make a mistake in terminology), but the fact that such a Hadith exists suggests that some other Muslims also picked up on the missing "prayer name". Also, there's the Hadith where the Bedouins are portrayed as praying 3 times a day, and where the Prophet suggests that their 'isha is the same as "maghreb" or something like that. Anyhow, I have a theory that reconciles both the established tradition (the ritual prayer(s) of the Prophet) and apparent inconsistencies with the Quran (differing times and lack of ritual details), though I would be curious as to your take on this, as I've seen quite a variety of different approaches, and I'm certainly a student of this dīn first and foremost.
@BaniAadama
@BaniAadama 9 ай бұрын
@inhumanhyena I have the exact same reading of The Salat as you laid it out. I allowed myself this exercise to get there : forget how I am currently praying and just see if I could figure it out exclusively by studying the verses. Naturally the answer is No. Adhering to a code of conduct as commanded by ALLAH is really what help us fight evil by consistently being mindful of ALLAH (Taqwa) in our daily dealings. Many people pray five times a day however I doubt the billions of ‘physical Salat’ offers daily have that positive impact in the world as evil and greed, intolerance is still very much present in our daily lives. Now let’s just imagine for a minute people just adhering to the Deen or the global order as commanded by ALLAH at all time… then we’ll really become True Servants of ALLAH (IbadaAllah).
@mirsalondon8829
@mirsalondon8829 Жыл бұрын
Words in Quran have to be consistent every time it's mentioned . If we think of Salah as a ritual , we have a problem with Allah's Salah . If we take it as connected to someone , than it fit's everywhere . Now how this connection works between Allah and us and vise versa ??? Allah makes Salah upon us for a purpose , we find it on the same verse . It's to bring us out from darkness to light . If we look through out Quran what is the thing that bring us out from darkness to light , it always point out to the revelation . So the point of connection is the revelation . Allah getting connected to us via revelation and we get connected or getting close to him with revelation . Aqeem Assalah , perform Salah means perform what's in the revelation . Is Salah a ritual ?? NO it doesn't fit with Allah's Salah . Otherwise allah would have used another word . That's my understanding but Allah knows best
@GuideMeToTheRightPath
@GuideMeToTheRightPath Ай бұрын
Why a word has to have a single meaning? In every languages a word can have multiple meanings. We know that jihad means struggle but also means risking your life in a defensive war. Do you think that the word jihad has only one meaning?
@Hasan...
@Hasan... 27 күн бұрын
​​@@GuideMeToTheRightPath You're 💯 right. The word Ayaat means Verses and (in another context) Signs. The word Kitaabin has dual meaning within the Qur'an. Salaat has multiple meanings, one of them is indeed Prayers (that 99.99% Muslims been doing since the beginning)... When they categorise the dual/triple meanings of other verses according to the context, why can't they do the same with Salat !?! That's insincerity and/or inconsistency. Qur'an is 100% clear, each meaning fits perfectly based on its context. Salaat as a ritual prayer fits perfectly well in the Verses of Direction towards Masjid Haram, Wudhu before prayers, Standing, Bowing, Prostrating, Shortening prayers in travel, Keeping weapons while praying when in danger, etc etc! It's crystal clear 🤷 ..and it fits well with the "living Sunnah" (i.e. ongoing practice learned and taught by generations of Muslims uninterruptedly)
@thesignsofgodareamongyou8306
@thesignsofgodareamongyou8306 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion brother Omar, God willing i will buy your book. Peace and God bless you In sha Allah.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother/sister. Many thanks for your kind words. I hope and trust the book will be of benefit to you insha-Allah.
@AbdurRouf-zn4xs
@AbdurRouf-zn4xs 26 күн бұрын
Zikr is remembrance. Salah to closely follow/adhere to the commandments of God in Quran. 4:103 says salat is the Qitab (qutiban) at the specified time.
@babajamal6599
@babajamal6599 6 күн бұрын
Salaam Dr. @omarramahi2019 . For timestamp 44:50, you made a statement that there is a problematic conclusion of salat being a timed book. However I do understand this was a view from 2 years ago. Per your updated understanding of KTB being the act of putting things together, can we conclude that the verse is saying that Salaat is a well organized process that has been put together and is timed?
@phs8014
@phs8014 Жыл бұрын
For the Question at the ending mark regarding as-salaat, It is a abstract noun , for example : justice , it can and should be physical but it is an abstract construct/quality/state that drives you for justice wether it is through activism , dialogue , protests , media and etc... THERE IS NO PHYSICAL FORM , our goal is for justice. i have a question to Dr.omar , is as-salaat an intentionality for a daily drive and purpose? Or niyaat(intention) for living? Because it seems like it taps into one of our features that is we are a social creature.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
the word salat appeared several places in the Mus'haf. Iqamat al-Salat implies an act that may carry a physical form. Salat, in general, implies connection.
@phs8014
@phs8014 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 yes , it is the mother of all intention , pure connection. i think what i meant when i say "there is no physical form" is that there isn't a "ritualistic form" or a "sequence" to do al-Salat. like justice, there are no "ritualistic form" to establish / carry out justice, there are many variables to achieve justice.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
nonsense
@MaratTurgunbaev
@MaratTurgunbaev 2 ай бұрын
​@OmarRamahi2019 how to perform both physical and spiritual salat then? Is there any specific guidance, words or duas or suras mentioned in the Quran? Thanks!
@tabuya6891
@tabuya6891 2 жыл бұрын
Fa=thus, therefore, hence, henceforth. Wa=and. Thumma =then, thereafter.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
S-L not S-L-W, in addition, never read Ayas individually. Yes it means to connect, and the normal way Muslims pray/do salah is the best way to do that. In addition the salah is mentioned in hadith to mean reading Qur'an (Abd el-razaq al-san'ani). Dhikr is dhikr/remembrance. Analyze the words analytically. Reading the Qur'an is Salah, Praying like how every non sufaha2 do it is Salah. Every Salah is Dhikr, but not every Dhikr is Salah, otherwise Salah LiDhikr would be redundant. Yusaloon means to connect/visit/touch. S-L; Salah, silah. Qiyyam, Ruku', prostration are all mentioned in the Qur'an, the prophet said pray hlw you see me pray, and that is the way all prophets prayed, we are preserved it. There is no need to even rely on Hadith, we have reports from the Tabi'een that detail it, the physical movements, the position of the hands, the flare of the elbow they're all included in the oldest collection of Hadith Musannaf Abd el-razaq al-san'ani, ignoring all of that and basing it on an epistemological fallacious argument is ridiculous.
@mobyinayet5383
@mobyinayet5383 2 жыл бұрын
Could "Zikr" not involve reading Allah's Book individually and collectively?
@ninimusta336
@ninimusta336 2 ай бұрын
I'm struggling with the Salat concept
@djelalhassan7631
@djelalhassan7631 7 ай бұрын
As I understand it Salaat means, to turn towards and follow very, very closely and connect and communicate with the Qur'an/Reading and Allah/The One Absolute Authority alone. Salaat has nothing to do with Parsi Namaz or a prayer whatsoever.
@sohrtseyidli
@sohrtseyidli 3 ай бұрын
This is the truth
@djelalhassan7631
@djelalhassan7631 3 ай бұрын
@@sohrtseyidli Salaamun alaikum/Peace is your responsibility to make
@hassanabdur-rahman1559
@hassanabdur-rahman1559 3 ай бұрын
You connect to Allah subhanahu by praying. Prayers are a means of communication with Allah.
@hassanabdur-rahman1559
@hassanabdur-rahman1559 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish that I could have joined this discussion. The brother and I have the same train of thought. Maybe it because we are both electrical engineers. Although I am only a practicing engineer and I don't have the advance education in electrical engineering as he has.
@qamarabdullah8858
@qamarabdullah8858 2 жыл бұрын
Salamun alykum dr omar.. I hope you continue discuss the words of ALLAH SWT. In surah Ash syam I heard very exciting explanation from Dr hany acthan. You can listen latest presentation about imam al mahdi..
@qamarabdullah8858
@qamarabdullah8858 2 жыл бұрын
According to dr hany ...al ard is ibrahim locution which is meaning al ard = scripture ( quran ) while samaawat = the layer of understanding.
@qamarabdullah8858
@qamarabdullah8858 2 жыл бұрын
When we applied the hidden meaning...I think it makesense.. and end up beautiful ly.... what do you think dr omar....thanks
@momoalnajjar
@momoalnajjar Жыл бұрын
In reference to your interview on ibadah, what would you say is the difference between عَبْد and عابِد, or عِباد and عابِدون?
@salahudeenm.s.6775
@salahudeenm.s.6775 2 жыл бұрын
super. salli li and salli ala -clear explanation. may Allah bless omar ramahi. i cannot afford to buy his book. greatest challenge.can i get it in pdf format.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother. Can you contact me at oramahi@gmail.com
@pa23708
@pa23708 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Oumar you said that Salat in 4:103 is physical activity (ritual?) and it may be the imitation of the prophet. My observation is that your definition of Salat is not consistent throughout the Quran. In 33:56 is it physical? . So how one can perform that physical activity? where can we find the instruction in the Quran ? If it is an imitation from the prophet ? Thank you very interesting discussion.
@tabuya6891
@tabuya6891 2 жыл бұрын
Sura jum'a =faidha qudwiyati ssalaat =when the salat has concluded......!!!
@nbasam8542
@nbasam8542 9 ай бұрын
Salam, Very interesting lecture, makes investigate and think. Brother, for example, this Aya can be understood 22:77 "Yā 'Ayyuhā Al-Ladhīna 'Āmanū Arka`ū Wa Asjudū Wa A`budū Rabbakum Wa Af`alū Al-Khayra La`allakum Tufliĥūna". I'm talking about the words Arka`ū Wa Asjudū, Sujud or Sudshūd. Thank you. I have subscribed to your channel
@Fareeha_Saleem
@Fareeha_Saleem Ай бұрын
57:03 is there any book or work that explains the theme of surah not in a traditional way which I know
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Ай бұрын
thank you for your question. I am not aware of any. Unfortunately.
@hamzaamir1218
@hamzaamir1218 Жыл бұрын
Aamir Shahzad Wah Cantt Pakistan
@juantellez275
@juantellez275 2 жыл бұрын
4: 103 is correctly translated by Mr Ramahi as saying " when you have decided to do salaat then remember Allah " , ...wow...I never knew that til I saw this video and did my own research...other verses of quran translate quza as decree or decide also and all words have to match to be consistant...
@mohdariff1619
@mohdariff1619 Жыл бұрын
Ordered and read your book.. 👍..
@hassanabdur-rahman1559
@hassanabdur-rahman1559 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Omar, is it possible that I could join your virtual study group of the Mushaf? I am learning a lot, but I have so many questions about the language and the grammar. I have been trying really hard to translate and understand the Mushaf, but my knowledge of the Arabic grammar is very limited.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother Hassan. Please contact me at oramahi@gmail.com and I will connect you with brother Mumtaz who is the organizer of these sessions.
@deprintdigital56
@deprintdigital56 Жыл бұрын
salam Dr. Omar... I found the hadith says that the number of salat was as a resut of isra miraj journey of prophet Muhammad and he met prophet Musa and followed his advise to get reduction number of salat. In that jouney prophet Muhammad also met prophet Ibrahim. I have a question in my mind ...why did not prophet Muhammad consult with Prophet Ibrahim instead of prophet Musa?...or why did not Prophet Muhammad consult with prophet Ibtahim after he got advise from prophet Musa while Prophet Muhammad was instructed to request such reduction. In other ayat witihin quran, Allah instructed prophet Muhammad to follow prophet Ibrahim religion.....following his tauheed. So, prophet Mhammad should consulted regarding salat while he had a chance to meet the prophet whom Allah instructed to be followed. I am feeling that hadith is also quite contradict with our prophet behave where prophet Muhammad is also known as an obidient person to Allah so he will not let the chance to meet prophet Ibrahim just passing by wihtout any conversation.
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 Жыл бұрын
Brother Omar do you have a complete translation of the Qur'aan /Mushaf. With soo many wrong translations in circulation. I think we have to have, at least one, corrected or well understood one for this and future generations. 😢.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
salam Sister Zuleika. I wish there was one. Translating the entire Mus'haf implies we understand the entire Mus'haf. However, we can translate parts that are of interest to us and that would require knowledge of the Arabic tongue (Lisan Arabi). I can resemble this to mathematics when I say x + y = z. I can easily translate represent the x, y and z with "Arabic" letters but I have to explain what the symbols "+" and "=" mean.
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 thinking out aloud brother Omar! . Allah reward you for your efforts of being of a service to genuine seekers. . However what puzzled me, growing up, in a traditional environment and traditionalist generation, as a seeker of truth, growing up, having a hard time differenciating between the over flooded market while Qur'aanists haven't even put one single corrected translation together. We appreciate their academic levels of education but no aid to the enquiring youth of this generation or future. Means we are no different from previous sectarianism generations. Even if we take the initiative to become true submitters and educators the damage that's done can not be undone. Eg how do we undo false translations, or volumes of contradictory Hadiths still in circulation for that matter?
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
@@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 salam sister. The Mus'haf is an ocean. Each generation will be able to understand some part that earlier generation could not understand. The classic modus operandi of earlier mufassirs (exegetes) is that they assumed that the entire Mus'haf can be interpreted.
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 wa Alaikumus salaaam Dr Omar..... I agree! Each person's experience with Al Qur'aan is personal as well the Hidayah that Allah sends to them. When we delve into this ocean we discover multilayered meanings... This is meant to impress that in the universe created by Allah nowhere is there homogeneity and uniformity; there is variety everywhere. From the same earth and by the same water different kinds of trees are appearing. Even the two pieces of the fruit of the same tree are not uniform in color and size and taste. In the same mountain one will see a variety of colors and a great difference in the material composition of its different parts. Even among human beings and animals one will not see two offspring of the same parents exactly alike. If a person seeks uniformity of the temperaments and dispositions and mentalities in this universe and is bewildered at the differences which have been alluded to in( verses 19-22) above, it will be his own perception and understanding to blame. This same variety and difference, in fact, point to the reality that this universe has been created by a Wise Being with great wisdom; its Maker is a Unique Creator and a Matchless Fashioner, Who does not have the same model of everything before Him, but has a variety of countless and limitless designs of everything. Then if one ponders over the differences in human temperaments and minds, in particular, one will see that it is not a mere accident, but in fact the masterpiece of the wisdom of creation. If all human beings had been created with the uniform temperaments and desires and feelings and inclinations and ways of thinking, and no room had been left for any difference, it would have been absolutely useless to bring about a new creation like man in the world. When the Creator decided to bring into existence a responsible creation, a creation having power and authority, the necessary inevitable demand of the nature of the decision was that room for all sorts of differences should be provided in its nature and structure. This is the main proof of the fact that the creation of man is not the result of an accident, but the result of a wonderful and wise plan and design. And obviously, wherever there is a wise plan and design, there must necessarily be a Wise Being working behind it, for the existence of wisdom without a Wise Being would be un-imaginable.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
@@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 salam sister Zuleika, beautifully said indeed. I would add that we have yet to understand how Allah "works". The designs of Allah take time, but we are, many of us, most of us, are thinking of Allah as a "person" and projecting our actions and abilities and intellect, etc., on Him. Thank you for your comments. Much apprecaited.
@hamzaamir1218
@hamzaamir1218 Жыл бұрын
I want to understand quran in true spirit. Is this channel for me ???
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
salam brother Hamza. I hope this channel will help us understand the Mus'haf in a better way. It is a modest effort towards that goal.
@shawon728
@shawon728 2 жыл бұрын
Salam brother, it's really informative video. I don't understand the verse 4:43. Don't approach prayer when you are drunk. Is it indicating ritual prayer?
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam Brother Mohammad. you have raised an excelelnt question. First, I think the verse is talking about sedation more than intoxication. Sedation may arise from drugs (medical or otherwise), whereas intoxication may arise from drinking alcohol. Secondly, I believe salat in the verse is the "ritual prayer" as the continuation of the verse indicates. (Alcohol may lead to both intoxication and sedation, but not sedation only).
@shawon728
@shawon728 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 Thank you brother for reply. Now, I understand the verse. I was confused about intoxication and sedation in this verse, now cleared. May allah give you more knowledge. I'm going to start reading your book very soon.
@KALLHASH
@KALLHASH Жыл бұрын
If ur drunk u cant reflect use Logic self correct u Will g’et drown , salat is self correction check where is ur iman and be honest and let Allah guide you
@hamzaamir1218
@hamzaamir1218 Жыл бұрын
I never understood the quran. Just used to recite as it is a ritual in Pakistan
@KALLHASH
@KALLHASH Жыл бұрын
Thats What they teach u to not reflect understand self correct they want sheep they Can control and says amin,
@hamzaamir1218
@hamzaamir1218 Жыл бұрын
Assalam o alaikum
@aloshmadala8858
@aloshmadala8858 2 жыл бұрын
I have 1 million questions brother omar.. So bottom line… are we as muslims obligated to emulate/ imitate the prophet and perform ritual prayer 2 or 3 or 5 times a day? Do we have to face in the direction of the kaaba? If so why?
@djelalhassan7631
@djelalhassan7631 7 ай бұрын
None of the above.
@momoalnajjar
@momoalnajjar Жыл бұрын
How would you interperet 62:9-11 where the word qada is used? The traditional understanding is that when the congregation has concluded (qudiyat) then disperse in the land and seek God's bounty.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
I fully understand that that traditional interpretation of qadha implies to be done with something. However, this interpretation is not consistent with many verses. Just few example out of numerous examples, take a look at 3:47, 4:65, 15:66, 17:4, 19:35, and others. Interestingly 28:27-29 may shed further light. Notice that in these verses, Allah uses the word atmamtah in clear distinction from qadhayt. Clearly the two words imply different meanings/concepts.
@stukafluka9940
@stukafluka9940 2 жыл бұрын
On one hand you ascribe a very broad meaning to Salah (as remembrance of God) which seems perfectly logical, while towards the end you settle for traditional Salah by sticking with and accepting it as over 1400 year old traditional practice (which has transformed into a ritualistic exercise) initiated by Prophet Muhammad. I wish that were true, but unfortunately falls short of reasoning and logic. Quran mentions that majority can be wrong (6:116) and leans heavily towards exercise of reason and thinking by rejecting all that does not measure up to the test of reason while accepting only that which filters through the lens of critical examination and logical inference (39:18).
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother. Not exactly, I did not settle for anything aside from what the Mus'haf talked about. I did say that Salat may encompass thikr without a specifc form as well as Iqamat al-Salah, which has some form to it. I also differentiated between salat on and salat to. Regarding 6:116, I am not sure if I understand any relevance between what I presented and this verse. I never resorted to what the majority are doing as the correct thing and/or standard.
@harishaneef26
@harishaneef26 2 жыл бұрын
Just because the majority does something does not automatically make it wrong . The Quran only says never to accept the " majority " as the basis or proof . The Salat without doubt is a physical spiritual practice. Verses such as 5:3 clearly points to that. Salloo , salawaat etc have same root but the Salat when associated with iqama and zikr is clearly a spiritual practice.
@shawon728
@shawon728 2 жыл бұрын
@@harishaneef26 what about Quran 4:43. Don't approach to prayer when you are drunk. It seems it's talking about ritual prayer.
@obaidulhaque7687
@obaidulhaque7687 Жыл бұрын
@@shawon728 How ??? Its could be non physical salaat also … isn’t it !?!?
@shahidmian4633
@shahidmian4633 Жыл бұрын
Brothers, the concept of Salat has not been correctly comprehended in this discourse. Remembering Allah before establishing Salah means to first ascertain what Salah is. Allah’s zikr while laying, sitting and standing means being ignorant, semi literate and enlightenment , respectively. When the concept is clear to one’s satisfaction, then you can establish Salah.
@abdalazizariff5154
@abdalazizariff5154 2 жыл бұрын
Qur'an When the 22:41 They are the ones who, if We grant them rule in the land, establish Salaat and give Zakaat. They enjoin virtue and forbid vice. And in their governance all affairs are decided according to God's decrees. [Establishing Salaat = Establishing the Divine System where God's Commands are closely followed. Giving Zakaat = Setting up the Just Economic Order in which wealth circulates freely to nourish every member of the society, and the basic needs of all individuals are taken care of] [Are we given rule in the USA or Canada , then no salat and no zakaat-? ] When the Exalted Messenger [as] left for Madina to protect himself, he was given rule in Madina. One group who played games with this night journey are the Sufis.
@semracalik3040
@semracalik3040 2 жыл бұрын
@abdalaziz arrif selam, what do you mean by playing games by the sufis brother? 🙏
@snapoz1
@snapoz1 Жыл бұрын
Qadaytum means finished my brother.. and the verses were talking about the salat during war and preferred one rakaah then when war is finished we have to perform it normal as two rakaas.. please read 46:29 وَإِذْ صَرَفْنَآ إِلَيْكَ نَفَرًۭا مِّنَ ٱلْجِنِّ يَسْتَمِعُونَ ٱلْقُرْءَانَ فَلَمَّا حَضَرُوهُ قَالُوٓا۟ أَنصِتُوا۟ ۖ فَلَمَّا قُضِىَ وَلَّوْا۟ إِلَىٰ قَوْمِهِم مُّنذِرِينَ ٢٩ Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Qur'an: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, "Listen in silence!" When the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
salam my dear brother. I don't find it convincing at all that qadaytum means finished as Allah uses the work "intahoo" (in several places in the Mus'haf) that convincingly implies the act of finishing something. However, qada and qadaytum, and relevant derivatives in the Mus'haf imply something different which is closer to rendering a decision or similar.
@snapoz1
@snapoz1 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 Thanks for replying brother, Intahoo means stop or stopped depending on how we read it not finish please read the following verses 2 : 192 - 193 4 : 171 8 : 39 And let me know your thoughts, Also have you read the verse that i have mentioned above in my first comment? Thank you
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
Regarding 46:29 I cannot conclude that Qadha implies done with or finished
@HameedButt-io3ur
@HameedButt-io3ur 4 ай бұрын
When I completed
@dr___sqazi5145
@dr___sqazi5145 2 жыл бұрын
Brother what about wasjidu warkau marakieen for maryam It is reverse order sajidah f/b ruku??
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother. You made a fascinating observation. I really cannot say much aside from observing that Allah used "wa" meaning "and" rather than "then". Another point here is whether sujood and ruku were used (in the context of maryam's story) to indicate the physical act of prostration, etc., rather than a different meaning (recall how Yousuf saw in his sleep the planets making sujood! The planet is a ball-like figure so what does shujood of a planet means?)
@dr___sqazi5145
@dr___sqazi5145 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 absolutely brother ! Other point grammatically wastainu bi sabr wa Salah If one object is abstract noun patience Other should be abstract as one verb connecting the nouns... Patience does depend upon situation Similarly Salah as per situation Example 1) after a death of a person our Salah is to bury him or her So on... Please comment.
@dr___sqazi5145
@dr___sqazi5145 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 brother I have read your book.. "Small book of 400 pages with enormous message!"
@crazystreamer9438
@crazystreamer9438 8 ай бұрын
Humans have been ordered to say Allahu Ahd and AllahuSsamed but they say AllahuAkber while akber is not an attribute of Allah
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 8 ай бұрын
you have a great point
@crazystreamer9438
@crazystreamer9438 8 ай бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 thank u brother ..i m from pakistan and i wish u give a lecture on this and on the age of the Prophet in accordance with suratulQadr that is 123 years and 4 months i.e his demise was on 71 hijra and was not on 10 hijra thus the whole history and traditons prove fabricated false. Thakns in anticipatin
@UALIS123
@UALIS123 2 жыл бұрын
Salamun Alaikum brother Omar, Can I post a very informative video regarding salaat?
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
salam brother Shoaib. I have not yet created a playlist. The videos on this channel have only my ideas and therefore I will be solely responsible for them. If I were to post other videos directly then I would also be responsible for the content. Therefore, I would seek your forgiveness for not being able to post other material now, but later once I create a playlist. Sincerely, Omar.
@UALIS123
@UALIS123 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 Salam brother Omar, Thank you for the clarification it makes sense. Jazak Allah
@AY-vv3oj
@AY-vv3oj 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam brother Ali Can you kindly forward the link for the informative video on salat?
@semracalik3040
@semracalik3040 2 жыл бұрын
@@AY-vv3oj can you send the link brother? 🙏
@psubahan9010
@psubahan9010 Жыл бұрын
Bro what the meaning of salaat
@tabuya6891
@tabuya6891 2 жыл бұрын
Faidha qadwaytum =and when it has been decided /decreed on you. Fa CAN SOMETIMES MEAN wa =AND.
@snapoz1
@snapoz1 Жыл бұрын
Salam brother, Please note that Salat is not just zikr (remembering) salat will include remembering and praising and thanking Allah and seek forgiveness and asking for any help we might need. 5:91 إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ ٱلْعَدَٰوَةَ وَٱلْبَغْضَآءَ فِى ٱلْخَمْرِ وَٱلْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ ٱللَّهِ وَعَنِ ٱلصَّلَوٰةِ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُم مُّنتَهُونَ ٩١ Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
@ariariski1418
@ariariski1418 2 жыл бұрын
Pls visit UKs dawah place and debate them their so your channel grows more
@KALLHASH
@KALLHASH Жыл бұрын
Debate them they dont use intellect Logic How Can u debate with an emotional being Thats dosent use Logic
@ridethelightning9
@ridethelightning9 Жыл бұрын
So is it 3 prayers or 5 prayers. When I read the Quran I reed 3 prayers
@jawadnasir6903
@jawadnasir6903 10 ай бұрын
Pls can you explain in detail what are Malaika ?
@djelalhassan7631
@djelalhassan7631 7 ай бұрын
Malaika means 'Messagers sent'
@rizwanshaukat5654
@rizwanshaukat5654 2 жыл бұрын
Salamun alekum. Dr omar stresses on that salat is for the zikr of Allah. Now let's try to define what is zikr and what salat . In surah jumaa(gathering) in ayat 9 and ten zikr is mentioned and also salat. First it says on the day of juma when you are called for salat so hurry to zikr of Allah . In today traditional salat what people do they recite quran so recitation of quran is zikr Allah and what is in quran , instructions of types of matters.it means zikr is is something very important and in ayat 10 once the salat or I would say salat is meeting for quranic revelation and consultation as Allah also say in other surah amruhum benahum shuraa. So once the salat or juma gathering is over so zikr Allah kaseerah so that you may be successful. It is not mere saying Allah or subhan Allah no no it is definitely more and what is more that whatever in the salat was mentioned meaning God's instructions so by keeping always the zikr in mind will make you successful. This is how i understand..
@ashabqahaf2967
@ashabqahaf2967 9 ай бұрын
Sura 62:9-11 qada means finish
@KB-pd9yh
@KB-pd9yh 5 ай бұрын
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@GloballyIslamic
@GloballyIslamic 8 ай бұрын
I wish you had toucched on 2:238 in this video.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I have not studied 2:238 in depth to comment on it. I hope I will in the near future.
@adnandizdarevic6989
@adnandizdarevic6989 2 жыл бұрын
He said:“ Salat is not just a 5 times prayer“. Can you please elaborate and give references to this claim. Thank you
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
Salam brother I cannot disprove the negative. The Mushaf never described salat as a 5 times “prayer”
@mainulbakul2067
@mainulbakul2067 Жыл бұрын
Al-Baqarah 2:239 فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ فَرِجَالًا أَوْ رُكْبَانًاۖ فَإِذَآ أَمِنتُمْ فَٱذْكُرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ كَمَا عَلَّمَكُم مَّا لَمْ تَكُونُوا۟ تَعْلَمُونَ English - Sahih International And if you fear [an enemy, then pray] on foot or riding. But when you are secure, then remember Allah [in prayer], as He has taught you that which you did not [previously] know. Brother can you please clarify what allah has tought us previously about salat?
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
salam brother. I really have not studied this verse well yet. I think it needs careful study in light of its context and also in light of the theme of the Sura and finally, in light of the semantics of all words involved.
@mainulbakul2067
@mainulbakul2067 Жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 Thanks brother for your reply. In future if you have have clear understanding please share with me your thoughts. Thanks again.
@dr.zainab6283
@dr.zainab6283 Жыл бұрын
it is said SALI means connection. it is not known for what/
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the context
@ammargabermasoud4335
@ammargabermasoud4335 2 жыл бұрын
Omar Ramahi
@Tony-jj9zb
@Tony-jj9zb 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with your interpretation or understanding on Surah 87, Verse 15. The "fa" part simply means and. Hence the translation without interpretation is as follows: Quran, 87:15, وَذَكَرَ اسمَ رَبِّهِ فَصَلّىٰ By remembering the name of his Lord and observing the contact prayers (Salat). [End] Quran, 93:7, وَوَجَدَكَ ضالًّا فَهَدىٰ He found you astray, and guided you. [End]
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
But "fa" is not "and". Allah uses both in different places in the Mus'haf, why should we assume they mean the same?
@Tony-jj9zb
@Tony-jj9zb 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 I shared with you another example from the Quran where "fa" was used. Surah 93, Verse 7.
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-jj9zb Yes, but in 93:7 "fa" does not imply "and". There is a difference between وَوَجَدَكَ ضَآلًّا فَهَدَىٰ and وَوَجَدَكَ ضَآلًّا وهَدَىٰ clearly the two states of being guided and being not guided cannot exist simultaneously. The "fa" denotes a sequential event.
@Tony-jj9zb
@Tony-jj9zb 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 So what is your understanding the translation is for 93:7?
@Tony-jj9zb
@Tony-jj9zb 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 Alhmdulillah, I have been following the Quran alone for almost 10 years now. So I agree with your stance on hadith.
@skidachilles3749
@skidachilles3749 2 жыл бұрын
Let me give you a gift of critical thinking, seeing about how open minded you are. let me ask you guys questions, do you know any of the lattest technological equipment that dont have any manuals? Next, if Al Qur'an is from Allah and a tool to connect with Allah, is it possible that it doesnt contain any manuals about how to operate the Qur'an correctly? If you cant find it, is it possible that Allah forgot to put it in? Or maybe we as his followers who cant find such manuals are not capable to uncover such manuals? What do you think is the most probable?
@killbill9035
@killbill9035 2 жыл бұрын
What's your point? The Quran is not a piece of machinery.
@momoalnajjar
@momoalnajjar Жыл бұрын
many things do not require a manual
@skidachilles3749
@skidachilles3749 Жыл бұрын
@@momoalnajjar then the Qur'an is not a perfect creation from Allah, if I agree with what you say. When the Qur'an is being called completed and perfect.
@lizaazman6243
@lizaazman6243 Жыл бұрын
Have you watched Marvelous Quran channel? According to Dr Hany Atchan, Quran itself provides the methodology of understanding it. You can check his playlist on methodology.
@skidachilles3749
@skidachilles3749 Жыл бұрын
@@lizaazman6243 Salamun Alaykum 🙏🙏🙏, hope this can answer your question.
@adnandizdarevic6989
@adnandizdarevic6989 2 жыл бұрын
59:15 IMHO Qur’an is not talking about food that we should or should not eat. For me, such superficial translations are in a way disrespectful to the Qur’an. الْمَيْتَةُ talks about something that is intellectualy dead, unlogic, goes against reason, ignorant and as such unable as to achive higher conscious.
@Dawood-Mushalam19
@Dawood-Mushalam19 Жыл бұрын
Every so-called “Qur’ānist” will tell you that salat refers to something else because THEY don’t personally make salah. Salat is a ritual & community prayer done in unison with fellow believers 5 times a day per the Qur’ānic narrative. Your *opinion is used to only validate not making salat 5 times a day. My challenge to any of you so-called “Qur’ānists” is to start praying 5 times a day, and see if it doesn’t draw you closer to God while simultaneously drawing you away from sin. One other thing, if you people think our manner of salat comes from hadith sources, you’re sadly mistaken. There is no summarized demonstration of performing salat from start to finish in ANY hadith. Why? Because our salat has been established since the time of Abraham (AS) as part of millat Ibraheem, i.e. the (religious) rites & practices of Abraham. Allah doesn’t need to explain something that was already in practice for thousands of years before the Qur’ān, just as well, Allāh doesn’t need to explain how we should practice circumcision, yet we know circumcision is linguistically implied in the word “millat” whenever it’s mentioned. You people are lost, and I say this as someone that doesn’t support the hadith literature .
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
I think you are making a very hasty generalization about what you refer to as "Qur'anists". These broad generalizations don't contribute to our understanding of anything.
@CRISPSolutions
@CRISPSolutions Жыл бұрын
Did our Prophet read the things we read in tashahud?
@OmarRamahi2019
@OmarRamahi2019 Жыл бұрын
@@CRISPSolutions According to my understanding which is based on the research that I did, in the so-called "Islamic tradition", there are multiple (sometimes reaching 10 or more) forms of the tashahud. So you posed a very interesting question. Based on what Allah stated in the Mus'haf, that the Prophet should not call (id'oo) anyone else except Allah, I believe that the tashahud, in whatever form one choose to adopt, should be towards Allah and no one else.
@KALLHASH
@KALLHASH Жыл бұрын
U belive In Allah like pagans thru idols u just do it thru imams scholars and hadith he sayd he did without prof , u dont belive In Quran , i chose Allah before eny man
@Adar195
@Adar195 11 ай бұрын
@@OmarRamahi2019 correct.
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517
@zuleikajuliedeldar5517 Жыл бұрын
when fa-idhā فَإِذَا ا ذ ا you (have) finished qaḍaytumu قَضَيْتُمُ ق ض ى the prayer l-ṣalata الصَّلَوةَ ص ل و then remember fa-udh'kurū فَاذْكُرُوا ذ ك ر Allah l-laha اللَّهَ ا ل ه standing qiyāman قِيَامًا ق و م and sitting waquʿūdan وَقُعُودًا ق ع د and (lying) on waʿalā وَعَلَى ع ل ى your sides junūbikum جُنُوبِكُمْ ج ن ب But when fa-idhā فَإِذَا ا ذ ا you are secure iṭ'manantum اطْمَأْنَنْتُمْ ط م ن then establish fa-aqīmū فَأَقِيمُوا ق و م the (regular) prayer l-ṣalata الصَّلَوةَ ص ل و Indeed inna إِنَّ ا ن ن the prayer l-ṣalata الصَّلَوةَ ص ل و is kānat كَانَتْ ك و ن on ʿalā عَلَى ع ل ى the believers l-mu'minīna الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ا م ن prescribed kitāban كِتَابًا ك ت ب (at) fixed times mawqūtan مَوْقُوتًا و ق ت
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
S-L not S-L-W, in addition, never read Ayas individually. Yes it means to connect, and the normal way Muslims pray/do salah is the best way to do that. In addition the salah is mentioned in hadith to mean reading Qur'an )(Abd el-razaq al-san'ani). Dhikr is dhikr/remembrance. Analyze the words analytically. Reading the Qur'an is Salah, Praying like how every non sufaha2 do it is Salah. Every Salah is Dhikr, but not every Dhikr is Salah, otherwise Salah LiDhikr would be redundant. Yusaloon means connect/visit/touch. S-L Salah, silah.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
Qiyyam, Ruku', prostration are all mentioned in the Qur'an, the prophet said pray hlw you see me pray, and that is the way all prophets prayed, we are preserved it. There is no need to even rely on Hadith, we have reports from the Tabi'een that detail it, the physical movements, the position of the hands, the flar of the elbow they're all included in the oldest collection of Hadith Musannaf Abd el-razaq al-san'ani, ignoring all of that and basing it on an epistemological fallacious argument is ridiculous.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
صل اللجَامُ يَصِلُ صَلِيْلاً؛ وصَلْصَلَ مِثْلُه: أي صَوَتَ. وكذلك البَيْضُ إذا نَقَفَتْها السُّيُوْف. وسُميَ الخَزَفُ صَلْصَالاً لذلك؛ وهو الذي قد انْطَبَخَ. وصَل اللحْمُ يَصِلُّ: إذا تَغَيرَ، ومَنْ قَرَأ: " أئذا صَلَلْنا في الأرْضِ " فَعَلى هذا المعنى. وأَصَلَّ اللحْمُ أيضاً. وماءٌ مُصِل: خَبِيثُ الريْحِ. والصَلُ: الدّاهِيَةُ من الشَدَائِد. وهو نَعْتٌ لكُلِّ خَبِيثٍ. وصَلَتْهُم الصّالَةُ: أي باقَتْهم البائقَةُ. وصَلَلْتُ الرَّجُلَ بداهِيَةٍ أصُلُه صَلّاً. والصلةُ: الدّاهِيَةُ. وهذا صِلُ هذا: أي قِرْنُه وحِتْنه. والصلةُ: المَطَرُ القَلِيلُ، وجَمْعُها صِلَالٌ. وأرْضٌ مَصَل: لا يَزَالُ بها صِلَالٌ من مَطَرٍ أي شَيْء بَعْدَ شَيْءٍ. والصلاَلُ - أيضاً - : أَشْيَاءُ تَنْبُتُ من مَطَرٍ قَلِيلٍ أو خُضْرَةٍ رُعِيَتْ ثُم تجبرت. والصلةُ: الأرْضُ، لَزِقَ بالصَّلَّةِ. وخُف جَيدُ الصلةِ: أي ما يَلي الأرْضَ منه. والصلَالُ: ساقُ الخُف، وجَمْغه أصِلةٌ. والصل: من أحْرَارِ البُقُول. والحَيَّةُ أيضاً. والسَّيْفُ الماضي، وجَمْعُه أصْلالٌ. ورَجُلٌ مُصَلْصَلٌ: سَيد ضَخْمٌ خالِصُ الحَسَبِ حَسِيْبٌ. وصَلْصَلَ الرجُلُ الكَلِمَةَ: أخْرَجَها مُتَحَذْلِقاً. والصَّلْصَلةُ والصُّلْصُلَةُ: بَقِيةُ الماءِ في أَسْفَلِ الغَدِيْرِ. والصُّلْصُلُ: طائر تُسَمِّيه العَجَمُ الفاخِتَةَ. وناصِيَةُ الفَرَسِ. والقَدَحُ المُرْتَفِعُ الجِدَارِ، وجَمْعُه صَلاصِلُ. ودارَةُ صُلْصُلٍ: لعَمْرِو بنِ كِلَابٍ. وصُلْصُل: ماء في جَوْفِ هَضْبَةٍ حَمْرَاء. والصَّلَاصُ: ما مَلسَه السيْلُ من الجَبَل، وجَمْعُه صُلْصٌ. والصَّلُّ: يُقال صَلَلْنا الحَبَّ؛ وهو أنْ يُعْمَدَ إلى حَبٍّ قد اخْتَلَطَ بالترابِ فيُصَبَّ فيه ماءٌ فَيَنْغزِل كُل على حِيَالِه، يُقال: هذه صلَالَته. إغلاق
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 11 ай бұрын
S-L not S-L-W, in addition, never read Ayas individually. Yes it means to connect, and the normal way Muslims pray/do salah is the best way to do that. In addition the salah is mentioned in hadith to mean reading Qur'an (Abd el-razaq al-san'ani). Dhikr is dhikr/remembrance. Analyze the words analytically. Reading the Qur'an is Salah, Praying like how every non sufaha2 do it is Salah. Every Salah is Dhikr, but not every Dhikr is Salah, otherwise Salah LiDhikr would be redundant. Yusaloon means to connect/visit/touch. S-L; Salah, silah. Qiyyam, Ruku', prostration are all mentioned in the Qur'an, the prophet said pray hlw you see me pray, and that is the way all prophets prayed, we are preserved it. There is no need to even rely on Hadith, we have reports from the Tabi'een that detail it, the physical movements, the position of the hands, the flare of the elbow they're all included in the oldest collection of Hadith Musannaf Abd el-razaq al-san'ani, ignoring all of that and basing it on an epistemological fallacious argument is ridiculous.
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