Salt Water Shore fishing: Why use a Conventional Fishing Reel vs Spinning reel?

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6 жыл бұрын

Salt Water shore fishing varies from beach fishing, pier fishing and jetty fishing to fishing brackish marshy shorelines. A conventional reel will sometimes be more effective than a spinning reel, and vice versa. Different terrains sometimes call for specialized gear. Today we are talking about when you should use conventional fishing reels and when you should use the standard spinning reel.
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@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Y’all are the best. We are trying to answer as many people as we can. But we may not be able to answer everyone! Hope you enjoyed our little adventure.

@christianmorriswilliams7072 6 жыл бұрын

Senko Skipper oh by the way do you have the fish brain app? If you do please let me know so I can add you

@smv1013 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Cali tell me the spot plzzzz😩 🤧I won’t ruin it.

@sandiemejermller7650 6 жыл бұрын

Senko Skipper hey Senko , my name is Steffen and i am writing from my wifes account wich is why the name says Sandie , anyway i am a fan of yor channel and your awsome videos , I live in Denmark and was wondering if you would ever consider visiting this little country to do some surf casting :) ?, you see here it is a novelty to some extent and i am curious what species can be caught here with the exception of cods and herring and the occasional trout, what do you say ? :) , thank you for all the videos, looking forwad to some more :) , perhaps some ouside the US .

@calebshanks340 6 жыл бұрын

Was a great vid but I prefer spinning myself.

@texican8441 6 жыл бұрын

Is that braid on that penn

@pitbolo266 5 жыл бұрын

Was hard watching you wind in on a loose drag while fish was running

@loucifer323 5 жыл бұрын

Never reel in when your drag is going you'll twist the line plus tighting your drag

@thualfagarmaryouch9114 3 жыл бұрын

I see uncle phill back there with that puff bar

@sithic2241 3 жыл бұрын

Was the first thing I came for the comments for lmao

@sithic2241 3 жыл бұрын

Dudes just enjoying his evening chilling lol

@alexrodriguez9271 6 жыл бұрын

Dude you guys are awesome. Both of you are extremely unorthodox but extremely informational for new fishermen/women. You remind me a lot of myself when I was learning to fish. Keep up the great work and keep the vids come. Blessings to you guys and the fam!! 👍🏻🐠🐟

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, alex! Haha we like to keep it a little unorthodox as long as we are helping people 👍🏼 we appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks for being part of our community

@chepachii 4 жыл бұрын

Was a very enjoyable vid. You really captured the session and bought the vibe to people. All the best.

@yousifa4002 4 жыл бұрын

“No need to refrigerate it as long as u keep it in room temperature or in a refrigerator”

@jpk3582 4 жыл бұрын

He is saying you can keep it in room temperature, or if you want to put it in refrigerator.😂😂😂🤔🤔

@MythicRealTrap 3 жыл бұрын

FPS Gaming He meant no need to put it the freezer. If you have common sense then you would know what he exactly meant 🤡

@jrudmanjr 4 жыл бұрын

You should do a video on “how to scale your drag”. It’s basically setting the drag at a percentage of the line weights breaking strength using a hand held fishing scale, around 25%.You’d be surprised how tight your drag should be for 10-12 lb. braids.

@HeySkipper 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video idea, thanks for the suggestion!

@damianowens5066 6 жыл бұрын

Hi I have read quite a few comments about why you lost your fish! Fish do get away sometimes that's why it's called fishing and not even catching, it's all part of the game! 🎣👍

@scottminarich6313 5 жыл бұрын

Great advice on your videos. Thanks for sharing!

@allansisson355 6 жыл бұрын

I know that feeling and I've had that look on my face. Great job with the camera and the editing. Caught what fishing is all about, and the true moment. Spinning reel all the way.

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you! It was still a great day of fishing. Appreciate you commenting 👍🏼

@matthewhaney5002 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you this video is exactly what I needed

@musicofthesoul7383 6 жыл бұрын

Try tightening ur drag. Its spinning waay too much. Thats why u didnt catch that last fish

@POPOkakaFURZ 6 жыл бұрын

and maybe also dont reel in while the fish is pulling line

@NomeSayin9 5 жыл бұрын

And get rid of them damn bells too it's not Christmas yet lol

@alejandro3485 5 жыл бұрын

I wanted to reach through the video and grab the rod

@rebepalma2430 3 жыл бұрын

J-mac 😂

@alphaomega9387 3 жыл бұрын

what's a drag?

@CarlosBadCo 5 жыл бұрын

I really loved the educational moment for the baitcast conventional reel!

@hotchihuahua1546 3 жыл бұрын

I’m sure the fish appreciates your food preparation skills ! 😁 Thanks for the lesson and happy fishing ! 👍

@billgroel4463 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job thank you for sharing

@johnfrank8403 6 жыл бұрын

That shot for the outro was an amazing setup - nice job Erin!!!

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!! I appreciate it! 😊

@pabpab871 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. It was fun to watch! Notice that your line is twisted on your spinning reel? Every crank against the drag puts another twist on your line. You have to tighten down the drag a bit or pump the rod and take up the slack . Have fun!

@StanleyOrchard 6 жыл бұрын

Been using a Penn Int (also a gift from my dad) for many years, caught great fish off her. We use it at the beach for our own videos! Great content, thanks for posting man and happy fishing!

@rogueandreel1357 6 жыл бұрын

Man, I felt that loss in my hands too! Hopefully another day will bring you better luck!

@marquezfamily2378 5 жыл бұрын

Sup Senko, been fishing with conventional reels for some time I realize that taking off the line laying control increases your casting distance. Here in Hawaii we use the pen senators 4/0 and up for ulua fishing with 13 foot poles. I always wet the line before casting lessons the burn on the thumbs when casting a sinker. And yes still get that birds nest even after all these years. Keep doing what you, tight lines and Aloha from Hawaii.

@RonDevito 2 жыл бұрын

Are these the 100-lb fish you hurl a sinker out, then use a second rod and slide a big bait out with a mechanism that travels over the the line from the first rod?

@marquezfamily2378 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonDevito it's one of the ways we fish called hang bait. In the mainland they call it trolley fishing. Other ways is to cast out a heavy sinker 6oz to 12oz to break away line. Bait is slid down fish sets the hook and the slide stops at a buckle. Lead line breaks and the figh begins.

@kevinharding3356 6 жыл бұрын

nice to see you back

@shawnweed265 2 жыл бұрын

This was a great overview. I like that Penn. It's a real classic. Nice size too.

@kaestongchannel9221 3 жыл бұрын

good evening po happy to watch your blog completely ..i learned alot God Bless po

@jasonsfishingagain312 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, where's this secret spot I'm not supposed to ask about? Couldn't resist.

@Flamearrow54 4 жыл бұрын

Thx for the help man on the conventional rod tips

@HeySkipper 4 жыл бұрын

Sure!

@tomconnally7961 4 жыл бұрын

enjoyed your videos for the last 5-6years keep up the videos

@BlokeOnAMotorbike 3 жыл бұрын

love my baitrunners. I got a few Shakespeare Beta 60FS reels for fast river trolling to lake float, I'm looking at loading one up with 30lb braid and using it for surfcasting.

@ChrisxStyleZ 3 жыл бұрын

ngl...when you asked us audience if it made sense (4:25) i laughed when your camera operator "mmhmm" too

@tayshaunjohnson3111 6 жыл бұрын

Great vids been with u since 14k love your videos

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

You are the best!

@YoloMoloPolo300 6 жыл бұрын

Been here since 1, I win.

@Hairygranny 6 жыл бұрын

love watching these

@ehdz9365 6 жыл бұрын

Good ending! Lol I was cracking up

@jason7371 6 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to use the salted squid, thanks guys

@rebelfishing9616 3 жыл бұрын

Great Presentation

@henrymeyergarvey1947 6 жыл бұрын

AMAZING VIDEO! THANK YOU!!!

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

thank YOU for watching!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

@Cwnidog 6 жыл бұрын

We've all been there Brendan. The nice thing (and trust me, I'm a Red Sox fan so I lived this for almost 50 years) is that there's always next time.

@Michael10293 5 жыл бұрын

Uncle Bill's a vape god

@skixd88 6 жыл бұрын

Great video and Great Channel❗️

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! So awesome to hear that people like what we are doing 😁😁

@KLung888 5 жыл бұрын

Great scenery!

@charlesdietzel7979 3 жыл бұрын

Great video

@gerardhipchen8757 Жыл бұрын

Thanks I have a baitcaster and you helped me to learn to use it

@shafiqroslin400 6 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@CheeNO_007 6 жыл бұрын

This young grasshopper has alot to learn!

@richteghtmeyer5417 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel man. Keep doing what you’re doing. Learning a lot from you. By the way, what’s your uncle smoking in the background back there? Lol. I saw him puffing on something right after you lost that fish.

@fishingegypt8882 6 жыл бұрын

Great episode, we need to learn more about the conventional reels please

@EndlessWeekendlife 6 жыл бұрын

4:30 Great tip. Always wondered how but not wanting to risk it. Cheers

@ReelGuyTv 5 жыл бұрын

For the big sharks and tarpon I like the conventional reels too. Might swap out my spinning reels for the smaller fish one of these days to see how it feels but for big guys a conventional setup is king.

@ccrxotlslszx4472 6 жыл бұрын

Great fishing dude! Striper fishing is the best! My favorite along with Corvina. I think its amazing to be able to catch them from the bank like that! A lot less expensive than a boat for sure. But if I may, one thing I noticed that you are doing in the excitement is reeling against the drag while your fish is pulling line. This causes your line to twist up and its hard on your drag system. But your a great fisherman!

@calebrodriguez3748 5 жыл бұрын

I just realized you were in Maryland. I am km Virginia beach!!! Great channel

@johnwilliams2711 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear your Dad has passed on. Love your vids.

@jhuntnfish6872 6 жыл бұрын

Nice vid guys. And a waa waa wooo for the pulled hook

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Ahaha waa waa woo!

@christianmorriswilliams7072 6 жыл бұрын

I have caught a 24 pound black drum on my 7'6" hurricane calico jack rod with the boca size 5 reel with 12 pound mono with a 20 pound shock

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

😵😵 that must have been a crazy fun fight!

@christianmorriswilliams7072 6 жыл бұрын

It was nail biting.

@bxfugitivo 5 жыл бұрын

Broo i felt your pain 100% 😱😱😱🙈. That happened to me with a monster blue last season . Jumped twice on me and i ended up losing it by the rocks.

@eightgeorge 6 жыл бұрын

Your uncle Bill must be loving it over there in the US. Over here that would be a lifetime catch. He say's it's alright lol, you guys are so lucky here at the other end of the Atlantic we are not so lucky.

@mitchmoe6224 5 жыл бұрын

Avet reels make a great conventional lever drag reel with magnetic cast control. After using the SX model for a while I bought an Avet SX Raptor 2 speed that works ridiculously well for fishing bridge pilings and kayak.

@frostizz2072 2 жыл бұрын

But they cost alot

@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips 6 жыл бұрын

You are a great dude

@rachelbeharry7363 2 жыл бұрын

This man helped me use a whole conventional reel

@stephenjohnson3390 6 жыл бұрын

When you cast, try turning the reel to the side on the follow through. It works with the Avet reels.

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@ychirovonnemanlunas6097 5 жыл бұрын

I hope one daywe fish together im a big fan of yours dude keep fishing you encourage many people amd drag them on oir hobby ! Tight lines dude

@aidandibenerdini4545 5 жыл бұрын

What rod do you use with the penn

@Derek6765 5 жыл бұрын

Pump the rod and then reel and tighten drag. Good video!

@RonDevito 2 жыл бұрын

Skipper.... what is your opinion on levelwind vs non-levelwind for salt water striped bass and blue fishing? Up in NYC metro, the few surf casters who even use conventional prefer non-levelwind, the rationale being a large, heavy fish can destroy the mechanism. There is a slight casting distance penalty with the levelwind as well. For pier fishing, I'm using Ugly Stik 6' pole with an ancient Penn Levelmatic 940 spooled with 20 lb Trilene Big Game mono. I would not put braid on a rod I'm dead-sticking and not on these older reels (unless with mono backing). For these species would you use a current production Abu Garcia C7000, an Avet 6/4 MC Raptor, or an equivalent sized Daiwa Saltist?

@leapyear9460 3 жыл бұрын

You might consider using a true circle hook that turns in on itself. Was hard to see yours but it seemed it may not have been. Once hooked up on a circle it's rare the fish can shake it. Thanks for this video it gives me confidence to surf cast my penn 500

@baxtertribe9825 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Brandon and family I was wondering what is a good rod for beginners and kids? I really enjoy the videos keep up the good work 👊🏾

@hugoosarion4775 Жыл бұрын

One day , we will see skipper teach his son how to fish, and the cycle of fishing will continue, i have spoken .

@bobscruggs8886 6 жыл бұрын

I bought my first bait caster rod and line for $ 2. 98 cents back in the 1950's guess I'm old anyway I do a lot of surf fishing here in Florida and using top gear like Shimano's spinning reels in the $ 200 range even though I rinse after each use I found bearings have a habit of seize up or something else breaks after a year or so I send them back to factory some times in a baggie since I can't seem to repair or fix myself Shimano charges $ 25 and normally sends me a new reel which takes 6 to 7 weeks to get back what a great service but a loss of fish time. I recently purchased a Seigler SM bait caster multipier reel lifetime warranty spooled with 20lb mono and a 12foot surf rod I can cast further than my surf spinning reel outfits with less sinker weight and the control of big brutes is much better and I actually out cast an air launch bait tube guy on the beach today. I can take a part a bait caster and do a deep clean and grease without any problems but my hands and those small screws defeat me every time especially the bailer. True it takes time to learn to throw the multiplier reel but once you do you will be using the spinner much less.

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, bob! I love hearing your story about buying that baitcaster for $2.98! What kind was it? I love those vintage reels 😁

@1shawnv1 6 жыл бұрын

What 12” Rod did you use with that reel? I’m looking to purchase a surf setup now, all of my reels are spinning reels

@shivjuicinwr142 6 жыл бұрын

Bob Scruggs so you're about 60?

@bobscruggs8886 6 жыл бұрын

Almost 77

@bobscruggs8886 6 жыл бұрын

can't remember I used it for Carp fishing and would sell the Carp for $ 1- 2 then buy a Pepsi and cupcakes then get back $ . 02 cents foe refund on bottle things sure have changed.

@chalo186ga 6 жыл бұрын

Just a humble piece of advice you never keep reeling when the fish is running, hence why you lost the fish. Live and learn. Good video and tight lines.

@boatlifeboatlife795 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video guys

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting, Jason! Happy to hear that you enjoyed it 😁

@azzbulla 6 жыл бұрын

Them feels when they spit the hook :( outro song was a perfect accompaniment haha. Head up Brendon you'll pump the next one :)

@tjaywallacejr4933 4 жыл бұрын

Hello skipper, I have some old Penn conventional reels from I believe the 90s would your recommend using them over my spinning rods?

@1planters Жыл бұрын

What's up buddy boy. I have a bucket full of shimano spinning reels that I use more than anything and I have a few level wind bait casting reels like an Abu 7000 that lay the line back on the spool. Now I'm finding I "need" a straight up conventional reel to add a little distance to my cast. Do you think you get a lot more distance with a conventional than with the level wind baitcasting reel. Any suggestions? That Penn international looks sweet but I thought I'd try some just a little bit cheaper. I don't need another reel if I'm not going to use it. The added distance would be sweet in the canal tossing 4 and 5 oz jugs. Will I increace my distance or am i wasting money. Thanks.

@davidstock5279 5 жыл бұрын

I have the drag set to the tightest because I’m afraid if I use the drag, the fish is fighting in the water for too long and it will eventually break off. Am I right?

@edwinaparicio1240 3 ай бұрын

I just got a conventional reel and I went to a lake to practice how to cast. I don’t know why it goes into gear as soon as I swing the rod forward. Am I doing something wrong?

@tinekawilliams2715 4 жыл бұрын

hey skipper the 975 penn has a cast control on the left side inside slows the spool so no bird nest there is three settings 4, 2, 0,

@samwood1799 6 жыл бұрын

We call those Multiplier reels over the pond though ideally we wouldn't use one with a guide (for casting we use those ones on boats) because it reduces the casting distance, saying that I still use my cheap NGT FRL-LS3000 reel for casting and that has a guide. Also if you want to get even more distance from it try learning to pendulum cast :)

@sugarsnap7883 Жыл бұрын

looks like you culda had your drag a little tighter for that one that got away on the spinning reel. Fish only needs to pull drag on its hardest runs,.. nice video, great reel info, remember to mention the advantage of spinning reels for casting lighter rigs and lures, simce the conventional needs some weight to throw.

@Skyline-hu3zg 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Skipper How to tell the difference between a surf casting rod and a surf spinning rod. I'm a bit confused surf cating rod dont have trigger aswell.

@ThePreparedNorseman 6 жыл бұрын

A reason i like spinning reels with rear drag is the ease of ajustment playing big fish!

@sarcasticahole1492 Жыл бұрын

What kind of rod did u use? I couldnt find surf rods with enough guide rings to be used with Conventional Reels.

@PentButler 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have tp distribute the line whenn reeling on a conventional reel?

@gmbotond Жыл бұрын

Beautiful ending

@guadalupebenavideziv3781 3 жыл бұрын

What size Shimano was it? What kind of rod? My son gave me a Shimano 1200 baitrunner but I can't figure out what would be a good rod for it. I prefer 2 piece .

@Anthony-jh5xc 6 жыл бұрын

Not sure if anyone has ever told you but you are never supposed to crank a spinning reel if the fish is going for a run and peeling your drag. Reason: you'll get line twist. Something that will equally ruin the hell out of your day as much as overrun will. The proper way is the pull up on the rod (not high sticking) then on the way down crank. If you're not getting line twist then maybe it doesn't matter. As far as conventional reels/baitcasters if you're fishing at night into the sunrise I prefer a spinning outfit since you can't see a damn thing at night to manage the overruns. Other than that I prefer a conventional because they cast smoother, less chance of line twist, and typically are more rugged and stronger, though spinning reels now are pretty strong. Keep up the good videos and I hope the best for your success with fishing and your business. Tight lines.

@Anthony-jh5xc 6 жыл бұрын

There's not a lot of documentation out there, and if you're interested in learning about cranking into the drag, this pro talks about it at 1:00 into his video about line twist. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMhzgKqE0qero2g.html

@douglasfletcher6746 6 жыл бұрын

What rod do you have with the 975?

@jeffersongalima5494 6 жыл бұрын

hi I'm a beginner.i go fishing once a month only.what kinds of fishing reel can you recommend for me.i really love beach fishing and pier fishing.i have a qunhai sg 6000

@ginogibbons8346 6 жыл бұрын

I felt your pain and anguish! The sad music was hilarious though.

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

😂😭😂😭

@wjl1988504 3 жыл бұрын

*Very convenient,not bulky has a good feel in the hand I did order a second one which is much shorter in length for short casting. If you’re not fishing for sharks it’s a great deal.*

@badass.bob1 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see more baitcaster info

@paul.aragon 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video quality. What camera did you use? Was there a separate microphone?

@Elmaspinche 6 жыл бұрын

tighten your drag that why you lost that fish they will bend your hook fast so you have to get them in as fast as possible

@HeySkipper 6 жыл бұрын

Next time 😭

@mikeries8549 6 жыл бұрын

Last night I hooked up with what had to be a 20# flathead. Had it at the gunwhale on the boat. It had been spinning a lot. That's what they do. At the last second it flipped it's tail and spit the lure into the boat. Waved bye bye with it's right fin then splashed me with it's tail. Was using a pretty light rig with 20# test braided line. Rhino rod. El cheepo. At least I got to see mine. ;)

@southernfishing4123 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry I missed the live broadcast it’s crazy right now in Sarasota Florida we got the 88 Daniel tarpon tournament so that’s been a bit nuts got the CCA tagged red fish catch and release there’s all kind of fish you can enter in to that thing and the freshwater FWC has tournament year around so it’s crazy right now love the videos I have both conventional and spinning and I just depends on where I’m fishing and for what?😎

@crimzontides 5 жыл бұрын

Liked your video. Question: I bought a pen battle 2 6000 reel and a Shimano trevala S fast action jigging rod. I tried attaching my reel to the rod and it feels like it doesn’t fit. What would anyone recommend me do? Replace the reel or rod? Any suggestions

@RustyShakleford1 5 жыл бұрын

Chris Nguyen file sand or cut the reel untill it fits!

@aubreyowen5146 4 жыл бұрын

Try a reel that is not a level wind. maybe a slosh 30. Its a GREAT surf fishing reel and will handle the fish you can catch from the surf! Great vids!!

@kaizenlife1152 6 жыл бұрын

What size rod are you using with the conventional? Thank you

@lenas884 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video on how to use your thumb for conventional reeling in? Please also cover how braid behaves vs mono on this setting.

@maclloyd2 5 жыл бұрын

I was told to not reel against the drag. I always do it and I have "learned" several times the hard way to try and not do it. I end up having to respool every time.

@dkat1108 4 жыл бұрын

Now you know how your buddy Louie feels in your other video....The big one that go away ....so many fish! so so many, that feeling sticks with us all.

@Fargosportsmassage 3 жыл бұрын

What is the best reel casting long distance 20 40 pounds salt water? Thanks

@sharablellama4476 3 жыл бұрын

Hey skipper if you read this I want to learn how to use a conventional reel with braid for casting I always use mono so I don’t burn my finger can you give tips on how to use my thumb on braid thx.