Sam Harris and Cenk Uygur Clear the Air on Religious Violence and Islam

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9 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris (Author, neuroscientist, Co-founder of Project Reason) and Cenk Uygur (Host of The Young Turks) have a discussion about religion. Sam and Cenk also address questions from the audience.
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@DustinMDEtmanski 8 жыл бұрын

Am I supposed to like for Sam Harris or Dislike for Cenk ?

@MrSmertnick 8 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@Rellikan 8 жыл бұрын

Not a conundrum at all. The liking system in KZfaq is flawed when it comes to these types of videos because in this situation Cenk gets benefit when you like the video for Sam Harris or for Cenk. If you liked the whole discussion then I suppose you should like simply because Cenk's organisation made this particular discussion possible and comment here why you disagree with him.

@Rellikan 8 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's highly likely he probably will never read most comments here because there's too many. What is it you are trying to convey?

@Rellikan 8 жыл бұрын

I don't think he was a complete failure. If enough people see your view some will upvote it.

@chibhatt24 8 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@anzebenko6466 8 жыл бұрын

I think it's very racist how Sam Harris mops the floor with Cenk.

@Clifton100 8 жыл бұрын

HAHaaaaah

@teotop958 8 жыл бұрын

My coffee came out of my nose...

@Plutonia001 8 жыл бұрын

That's gross, that's racist!

@MuckaRoomi 8 жыл бұрын

haha great one!

@devinnicolle3791 8 жыл бұрын

+Robert J Barnes I love this comment

@LuigiMordelAlaume 2 ай бұрын

Holy crap this is 9 years old and literally nothing is different. This is so depressing.

@welliamd2463 2 ай бұрын

yup, now he thinks nazis were benign...

@LuigiMordelAlaume 2 ай бұрын

@@welliamd2463I just heard around 30% of evangelicals believe they'll have to resort to violence to maintain America. I wish we had stats about how many Germans voted for the Nazi party when Hitler rose to power... I wonder if it's a plurality of support around 1/3rd...

@motorhead48067 Ай бұрын

@@welliamd2463He said Nazism is benign by comparison to Jihadism. If we’re being remotely charitable it’s pretty clear that he was just trying to say that Jihadism is worse than Nazism, not that the Nazis were literally benign. I mean let’s use our thinkers for a second here; you really think Harris thinks that the Nazis were benign despite everything he’s said in condemnation of them and of the Holocaust? Come on now brother. The very fact that he’s using Nazism as his point of comparison with Jihadism in and of itself tells you that he thinks Nazism is bad.

@Maverick5588 9 жыл бұрын

I honestly felt like sam was talking to someone just as bad as a religious nut. Or a father trying to explain a simple concept to a small child and getting nowhere. Is it that hard to understand that muslim and christian texts are not equal? Ffs.

@krishnamurtidude 9 жыл бұрын

agreed. well said

@semicron5159 9 жыл бұрын

sha1017906 Yea but Sam Harris's main point is that well all know these religions are BS. Except that Islam unlike Christianity commands its followers to do nasty violent things as opposed to Christianity which says some fairytale deity will do nasty things

@VampageRampage 9 жыл бұрын

Semicron so glad you didn't respond to that bleeding imbecile with a second reply, ty for being bigger than 90% of youtube retards including myself :/

@muken48 9 жыл бұрын

Semicron I would argue that Christian history is dripping with blood. Do those murdered people not matter because they cannot speak for themselves now? This 'Holy Spirit' or 'Paraclete' or what ever name you choose to use, motivated people to burn other people at the stake. This realm will end, one way or the other, through war or in several million/billion years at the center of our galaxy due to the forces of nature. Assuming we get to the several million year mark as a species, how could those future human beings look back at our history and say that one religion was less violent than the other?......oh yeah, we have the heads being cut off on video tape.

@albert3671 4 жыл бұрын

This is basically a 3 hour commercial for Sam's book on meditation, because he shows that he has the patience of a saint.

@restlessmind8921 4 жыл бұрын

lmao that's brilliant

@cityman1111 4 жыл бұрын

And totally outclasses Cenk intellectually.

@mosehlewi3081 4 жыл бұрын

Harris looked completely irritated. He continued cutting Cenk's exchange. These are not indications of extraordinary tolerance.

@mosehlewi3081 4 жыл бұрын

@@cityman1111 Matthew 10: 34 “Don’t think that I’ve come to bring peace to the earth. I haven’t come to bring peace but a sword. 35 I’ve come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 People’s enemies are members of their own households. 37 “Those who love father or mother more than me aren’t worthy of me. Those who love son or daughter more than me aren’t worthy of me. 38 Those who don’t pick up their crosses and follow me aren’t worthy of me. 39 Those who find their lives will lose them, and those who lose their lives because of me will find them. Luke 12: 49 “I came to cast fire upon the earth. How I wish that it was already ablaze! 50 I have a baptism I must experience. How I am distressed until it’s completed! 51 Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, I have come instead to bring division. 52 From now on, a household of five will be divided-three against two and two against three. 53 Father will square off against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother; and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” Luke 19 "As for my enemies who don’t want me as their king, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

@anunknownentity1637 4 жыл бұрын

@@mosehlewi3081 sorry, but those verses are metaphors there not meant to be taken literally

@maxbants7737 3 ай бұрын

I don't believe at all that Cenk is failing to grasp the various criticisms that lie unique in Islam, he is simply practicing selective-ignorance and defending it out of favour for his mother culture and even says as much early in the interview.

@mohamudhersi8850 Ай бұрын

If we talk barbarism it is more of christians than muslims. It is in the Quran that you get if you kill a human being is as though you are killing the whole of humanity. When Jews are persecuted in the hands of christians it is muslims who always protected them. What islam is against for instance immorality, abuse other people and kill other without a reason. It is absurd someone like Sam Harris to defend west and attack. When Muslims ruled the holy land they protected all people who live in Holy. Later when christian crusaders captured they killed almost all people in the town regardless of their religion Muslims, Jews etc. When later Salahudin Al Ayubi conquered he did not kill the people in the town regardless of their affiliation. Look today what christians are doing in support of zionists persecution of the Muslims in Palestinians. Therefore, when you compare the followers of the two Muslims are superior in terms of high moral ground compared to christians. Christian UK and USA (christians) who we can not finish the atrocities you have done to the other non christians communities in the 20th and 21 cenntury. Start colonialisation of other people, viatnam war, Middle east disaster, Afghanistan onslaught (20 years of atrocities), continued support of apartheid zionist state and so on and so forth. If we compare as whole people Muslims were always more peaceful than christians. That is fact.

@RainbowYak 4 ай бұрын

As a Historian, I do need to make some corrections regarding both Cenk's and Sam's remarks about the Middle Ages. Cenk in particular seems to have been greatly influenced by TV documentaries, which unfortunately depict Europe's Middle Ages as an extremely bleak, barbaric and bruel time. This is largely a modern spin, however, as Sam pointed out. Contrary to Cenk's assertion, Europe DID have libraries; many of them in fact. One of the largest and most famous medieval libraries was that of the monastery of St. Gallen in Switzerland. It still exists today and it can be visited (it's a really beautiful place). Medieval libraries were private but this was equally true for the ones found in the Arab world. Public libraries are a very recent phenomenon in world history. Europeans also founded universities as early as the 12th century. The late Middle Ages in particular were a time of great learning and innovation. To claim that all the Christians back then were fanatics is ludicrous. There was an entire class of clerics who were really pious but ALSO very interested in the natur al sciences, medicine, engineering etc.. Today we call them scholastics. Scholasticism was highly influential in the history of science and philosophy and the Renaissance likely wouldn't have been possible without it. The Middle Ages also weren't as cruel as is often believed today. For example medieval people did NOT burn anyone at the stake. There were no witch hunts. All of these events happened during Early Modern times (16th-18th c.). Even the inquisition didn't really get going until Early Modern times. This is important because something significant happened right at the end of the Middle Ages: the reformation. Contrary to popular belief, it was the Protestants, NOT the Roman Catholic Church, who harbored deeply sexist, anti-semitic and otherwise toxic beliefs. This actually makes sense when you look at what these people preached. All the famous Protestant preachers used the phrase "sola la scriptura". Today we'd call them religious fundamentalists because this is literally what they were. They believed that only the Bible mattered and that it should be interpreted to the letter. The most radical of these religious zealots called themselves Puritans and ended up moving to North America. This is another common misconception about history by the way: the Puritans weren't pushed out of Europe. In fact, most European kingdoms at the time (and the UK in particular) treated them with a great deal of tolerance. The UK under Elizabeth I. even enacted some protections for Jews, so why would they hunt down fellow protestants? In truth, the Puritans WANTED to leave because they couldn't stomach the liberal values in Europe. They moved to North America specifically so they could build their own little theocracy over there, being sure that no one would bother them in their fanaticism. Lastly a word about anti-semitism during the Middle Ages: while anti-semitism doubtlessly existed, Historians generally differentiate between structure and events. It's important to do so because if we don't, we get a very twisted view of the past. For example natural catastrophes were singular events, they weren't structure. Now, in the case of anti-semitism, pogroms did occur but they didn't occur every day or even every year. Let's not forget that we're talking about a time spain of 1,000 years here! Not every person in the Middle Ages was a raging anti-semite; in fact, the overwhelming majority probably wasn't. People in the past weren't different from us today, they had just as much empathy and love as we do. People did have far less information back then of course but nowdays we've got a lot of fake news. In my opinion, religion certainly contributed to anti-semitic pogroms but it wasn't the decisive factor. The decisive factor was the lack of law enforcement. If 200 neonazis today would try to commit a pogrom in Cologne, the city government would immediately call on their police force and perhaps the federal government would even call in some military unit. Medieval cities did not have this option, so once a pogrom got going, there was very little anyone could do to stop it. And while it is true that Jews were prohibited from taking on various jobs, which is doubtlessly anti-semitic, they often excelled in fields such as medicine or trading, where they were usually highly respected by their Christian peers. So, it's important to be very nuanced about these things.

@declanbrown5056 4 ай бұрын

This was a very insightful and interesting read, thank you for sharing! Out of curiosity, do you have any material like books or fact based historical websites you would recommend to someone like myself whos not very knowledgeable on these things?

@TrunksG-or4s 3 ай бұрын

All that shit for 5 likes

@SADGOD633 3 ай бұрын

@@TrunksG-or4swell it’s 9 so it’s worth it..

@Anacaona92 3 ай бұрын

Gem 💎

@placebojesus5652 3 ай бұрын

@ConnorGrayaon-or4sy @SADGOD633 Now it’s 10 likes so I think he’s finally got enough likes to feed his family and live in peace now and forever.

@vpr3i 7 жыл бұрын

I'm more intrigued by Sam's patience than his intelligence.

@shanilemeow2942 6 жыл бұрын

vpr3i Medititation for many years.

@justinclark216 6 жыл бұрын

His patience is on another level. I admire it.

@diegocervantes7946 6 жыл бұрын

those 2 go hand in hand, you cant separate.

@comanchio1976 6 жыл бұрын

+deflair lais Not necessarily. Some brilliant people can have a volatile nature. Which can be quite entertaining. I find Sam's approach/character more admirable, though.

@diegocervantes7946 6 жыл бұрын

+comanchio1976 no doubt. I just said that because Chunk doesn't have patience for shit when he hears something he disagrees with, then goes on with a very UN-intelligent response and sometimes rant that doesn't make any sort of sense. I dont totally agree with sam but i am more influenced to listen and ponder someones thoughts when they aren't screaming "OF COOUURRSSSE!" "JUST LOOK IT UP"

@sephdm 4 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that Sam still has hair by the end of it. I would have torn all of mine out.

@jgambler1188 9 жыл бұрын

This interview did cenk no favors.

@ToveriJuri 8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Gamblore Most of what he says doesn't. He's the broken clock type of guy when it's comes to being right about something.

@MattFoleysGhost 8 жыл бұрын

Cenk's mouth in general does him no favors.

@YuMa-oi1mj 8 жыл бұрын

+Ray K and how is that any different to the total simplyfied statement made by Sam? "poverty doesnt cause crime. Islam does. hurdur" And whats with all you uneducated people and your "I see snow, so global warming is not real" logic. Just because someone is educated and fighting "against" the USA doesnt mean he believe in 72 virgin or allah. And what kind of idiot would call those people "happy". They go to a warzone to die. How the fuck can you call their previous life "happy".

@eliteviktor3 8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Gamblore Nono, at 56min he did have a solid fucking point!

@JordanMedina 8 жыл бұрын

+Yu Ma ...... Just listen and watch jihadists as they make their last prayers before blowing themselves up. They are in religious ecstasy. "We love death like the enemy loves life," say the true believers. You are thinking logically in saying that this is madness, and that no one could think or live this way. However, it's a sad fact. Think before you talk shit.

@brotherben4357 4 ай бұрын

How can anyone take Cenk seriously? He’s an embarrassment sitting oppoosite Harris.

@richarddiago3710 5 ай бұрын

Sam Harris is so good at remaining focused and on point within the context! I wouldn’t be able to remain as calm as he was 😆

@slove102784 5 ай бұрын

He’s evil

@gammagongetya8967 5 ай бұрын

@@slove102784not an argument

@davidzeto2446 4 ай бұрын

It would seem he's so calm because he approaches everything with a rather juvenile academic conception of reality without a lived understanding that dry logic does not apply to anything.

@MaxPowers2.0 3 ай бұрын

@@davidzeto2446…yes because juveniles are KNOWN for being calm.

@davidzeto2446 3 ай бұрын

@@MaxPowers2.0 there are no real lived in stakes for him. So yeah, he has a juvenile conception of things albeit in an ostensible mature (I would proffer morose) tone.

@libertyordeath1211 6 жыл бұрын

I just hope KZfaq doesn't fill my feed with TYT videos cuz I watched this one video.

@12FU 6 жыл бұрын

that would suck!

@GameWorks12 6 жыл бұрын

Caleb Barker they always do that shiy

@jcbynum007 6 жыл бұрын

1) If you sub TYT, you'll see their videos in your feed, 2) If you respond with "Like" or "Dislike" their videos will be in your feed, 3) CLEAR your History playlist often. A lot of the Feed and Recommendations are influenced by your History playlist. :)

@blazedandconfused477 6 жыл бұрын

You can just hover over recommended videos, click on the little three dot menu and select ''not interested''.

@libertyordeath1211 6 жыл бұрын

I appreciate all of your concern. Thanks for the tips

@jgambler1188 7 жыл бұрын

cenks arrogance is unsettling

@LetsBringPeace 7 жыл бұрын

do you have a source for this "Muslims push sharia law in Texas?" I want to read that

@Motsie91 7 жыл бұрын

@John Gosh, how much of an idiot are you that you jumped to that conclusion?

@mattzellner8739 7 жыл бұрын

Che X lol.

@gnifemaul 7 жыл бұрын

Cenk is further up his own ass than anyone I've ever seen except for maybe Donald Trump. Also, you realize that Jews make up .0018% of the global population, right? What possible trouble could an uncoordinated group so small cause for the world at large?

@carlosdanger7263 7 жыл бұрын

Cognitive neuroscientist Sam Harris Vs Cognitive dissonance patient Cenk.

@moviesfan5513 3 ай бұрын

Sam has patience of the saint.

@Valariel 6 ай бұрын

It’s not about whether the Koran or the Bible has worse stuff in it, it’s about whether or not (or what fraction) of its followers adhere to that belief. That is the point they should be discussing.

@Trinitas666 8 жыл бұрын

The ridiculous thing about this interview is that Cenk actually believes he has the upper hand and is outwitting him. It's amazing how oblivious he is to how badly he got beaten. It's like he can't stop being smug and conceited, regardless of how foolish he looks.

@Barwinsb 8 жыл бұрын

that is a personality flaw that Cenk has even to this day. He doesnt do his homework before a debate, and when he runs out of things to talk about he resorts to character attacks. so that means this was 2hr 59min of character attacks.

@RobertJBarnes 8 жыл бұрын

He knows how to draw attention to himself. He's louder. He speaks energetically. He cuts of the other speaker. We wins all the shallow stuff. But if you listen, Sam cleans his clock.

@RobertJBarnes 8 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris fancies himself a liberal but Cenk has since called him a fake liberal . . . SH does argue like a sedated Shapiro. Logical and fact based but without the 5 cup coffee buzz. Cenk uses emotions and body language. I'm slowly being pulled from being a liberal to a principal based conservative.

@Barwinsb 8 жыл бұрын

come to the dark side. all answers become clear with a sound foundation of principles of the founding fathers and a clear moral compass of non-aggression.

@JayPlaysModern 8 жыл бұрын

Regressive liberals hate being called out by classical liberals.

@Maranatha2216 7 жыл бұрын

The humiliation of Cenk Uygur

@lizjoe21750 7 жыл бұрын

If only Cenk knew he was being humiliated, and/or admitted it. Now THAT would be a sight to see!

@jimmeshtick8908 7 жыл бұрын

Ooooooooofcourse! 🍔🍟🍕🍝🍗🍩🎂🍰🍮🍫😵

@chadyd99 7 жыл бұрын

This was borderline like having a conversation with a 5 year old for Sam Harris.

@FutureAndFinance 7 жыл бұрын

ahahaha

@alecjkrueger1 7 жыл бұрын

It seems his only desire is to disagree, so many times he agrees then disagrees with little BS side points..

@miguelpalma8389 6 ай бұрын

What an enlighting discussion. Do it again!!

@tanushko 5 ай бұрын

Cenk is like: "But the christians killed a lot more people than muslims!" Sam is talking about the doctrine, which is fundamentally different. Straight lines from doctrine to behaviour. That's the key here that Cenk doesn't seem to be able to understand, because he takes it personally. He says he isn't muslim (religiously), but he is a muslim culturally, which is why he can't resist to feel insulted by Sam's explanations.

@markhermanson2046 9 жыл бұрын

Sam lays out clear concise arguments, none of which are bigoted or racist. His points are data driven and relevant to today's world. He is indeed considering all sides of the argument. Cenk continually sets up straw-men of Sam's position, as many have done. If you rationally consider Sam's position and carefully listen to his wording they make a lot of sense.

@heyhey89674 9 жыл бұрын

He lays out clear and consice arguments many of wich are wrong, like the idea that the Syrian or Iraqi people would care if ISIS soldiers died in an airstrike. What they do care about, as we have seen in dronestrike tormented areas, is if their familymembers die and civilians. The fact that Harris seems to ignore this is yet another idication that this guy is taken way to seriously and doesnt know what the hell he is talking about.

@markhermanson2046 9 жыл бұрын

Auraruth8 He explains clearly how bad he thinks collateral damage is. Did you watch the whole thing?

@D3nchanter 9 жыл бұрын

Auraruth8 Mark Hermanson The problem I have is that Cenk really can't understand sam's VERY simple point about doctrines having straight lines to how people behave and how christianity and islam are not the same.

@markhermanson2046 9 жыл бұрын

Denchanter357 Right, he corners Cenk on this point twice. 1. Why aren't the Christians in Palestine participating in the violence, they are in the same socio-economic position. 2. Why do we take a person at their word when they claim to have committed crime for material reasons, but some dismiss it when they give a religious reason. They both agree on most of it .. it seems they disagree as to what weight all of the environmental, political, economic, religious, mental, and societal factors hold. Fine, they can all play a role.. but it's only religion claiming to be the one and only solution, the system that claims to trump all other factors.

@st105900 9 жыл бұрын

Mark Hermanson Denchanter357 i think cenk clearly understand sam's premise of beliefs leading to action. and sam does make logical conclusions based on this premise, which however are wrong. not because he got the premise wrong, but because his premises are insufficient. as a counter-point to your question, if doctrine leads to behaviour, then i find it logical to ask why there hasn't been any muslim voilence in USA? here is a thought experiment, i hope you will be honest with yourself: if all the muslims in middle east suddenly by some miracle renounce islam right now, do you think the violence would stop tomorrow? the honest answer is no! i find cenk's point of view more nuanced. it seems to me that harris is so engaged in his own thoughts that he forgot that some of his writings are squarely in a political arena. and there are much better political analysts of the middle east than harris. also being irreligious or being an atheist is not equivalent to being an islamophobe.

@jackstar5208 8 жыл бұрын

Who lets Cenk debate? He just embarrassed himself!

@julie-mt2xr 8 жыл бұрын

Disagree. Sam contradicts himself the entire conversation, not to mention his stammering every other sentence.

@fredthemanish 8 жыл бұрын

+Julie Irvin sam rarely ever stammers, he is definitely one of the most articulate people alive, cenk keeps saying dumb shit and it throws him off.

@ephilbin 8 жыл бұрын

Can you point out where Sam Harris contradicts himself? I'd like to see your point.

@nicholew350 7 жыл бұрын

A genius... People watch these videos just to see him make a fool of himself. Doesn't TYT make money off view counts? Someone is making bank off of his stupidity. I still believe he thinks he's winning though.

@marishanameyer6132 7 жыл бұрын

Actually he did not at all. I have noticed this with atheists before they do not think for themselves, they think like dawkins or Harris...etc...just as bad as religious people really.

@Dr_Muad_Deeb 5 ай бұрын

3 hours of Cenk missing the point

@amarkernawi3217 27 күн бұрын

Sam Harris, I applaud your courage, your knowledge about the subject.

@OzymandiasRamsesII 9 жыл бұрын

Cenk Uygur is maddeningly obtuse in this interview, seemingly determined to misunderstand well-explained distinctions and showing a disregard for the accurate representation of his guest's views.

@gavrielkostonov1234 9 жыл бұрын

I lost the very little respect I had for Cenk Uygur long ago. For all the self-righteous pomp he gives off when speaking on human rights, he has taken the position that the Armenian Genocide never happened. A self proclaimed Liberal that takes the same position as the current Turkish regime is most suspect.

@TheMuskokaman 9 жыл бұрын

This is what happens when you play football or pro boxing. ;-)

@rationalagenda7083 9 жыл бұрын

from what I understand, Harris isnt expecting everyone to agree with his ideas on Islam, but what he does expect is to be able to raise issues for mature intellegent discussion without hysterical reactions. He has a point - very well illustrated by Affleck

@NathanielHarari 9 жыл бұрын

I actually took a couple of notes of things which occurred to me during this discussion, but I haven't written it up yet. I'm not sure if I will, but it made some things very clear to me while watching it.

@NathanielHarari 9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks. Not sure it's really worth my time though. Most people here know my opinions already and I'm not certain most want to hear me repeating myself. :)

@vladnigmo6785 9 жыл бұрын

Cenk looks very emotionally invested in protecting Islam.

@vladnigmo6785 9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo the whole conversation is like intellect trying to talk with emotion :)

@aucourant9998 9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo He was raised a Muslim. So, it's very difficult for him to over-come the brainwashing.

@olie171 9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo I know why this fat fuck endlessly defends Muslims. He might be agnostic but his parents and other family members are Muslims so he has a soft spot for them. His so called "progressive" point of view is so one sided and when he describes himself as a liberal, he made a fool out of himself. Have you ever seen him this passionate and angry when he talks about Other religions? I think Cenk should come clean and be honest about his true

@Vickytoriahirt1234 9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo Because his family is Muslim. His mother is a Muslim and everything.

@MadGunnerO_o 8 жыл бұрын

***** yes

@henry6451 Ай бұрын

I would love to hear a body expert analyze the sitting postures of these two. They are distinctly contrasting..

@steventai65 2 ай бұрын

Note to self: Don't debate an intellectual giant unless you are totally prepared, or Cenk

@076657 7 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris' patience is UNBELIEVABLE.

@aghadmtl 7 жыл бұрын

and Cenk's stupidity is INFINITE

@076657 7 жыл бұрын

Also true. He can't understand that hitting two birds with an arrow is less probable than hitting one. He thinks it's the same probability because it's so small. Very dumb guy indeed.

@aghadmtl 7 жыл бұрын

OF COURSE! OF COURSEEEE!

@Exodus27 7 жыл бұрын

He is a real-life Jedi

@er9875 7 жыл бұрын

Thats what long term meditation seems to do

@duartepereira5529 5 жыл бұрын

Sam: We gotta think deeper. Cenk: error 404.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062 5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals talk with intellectuals.

@rileystewart9165 5 жыл бұрын

I think Cenk is smarter than average, just not in Sam's Domain. Also you can obviously tell Cenk is intimidated based on his hands, face and posture. This can make it harder to demonstrate your views.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062 5 жыл бұрын

@@rileystewart9165 Well, I'd argue that he is more knowledgeable than average, not 'smarter'.

@rileystewart9165 5 жыл бұрын

@@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062 certainly more knowledgeable. No question.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062 5 жыл бұрын

@@rileystewart9165 His TYT is also paid for and funded by globalists with specific political interest. I have no doubt that they give him certain knowledge that he must know for certain topics. He was essentially a lawyer who studied management. This also contributes to his ability to think clearly on certain topics, regardless of how ignorant he chooses to act about certain things that people such as Sam Harris talks about here.

@endthecorruption6663 6 ай бұрын

Such a great, honest and genuine debate, 9 yrs later

@gobrownstd54 2 ай бұрын

Funny listening to Cenk talk about Christianity and the Bible like he knows anything about it. And it's always entertaining listening to an Atheist also talk Christianity.

@sxyy2559 6 жыл бұрын

I don't know whether to like for Sam or dislike for Cenk

@ericmckayrq 6 жыл бұрын

Me too

@drewdalasta5062 6 жыл бұрын

it's a TYT video. easy dislike.

@paigehensley5226 6 жыл бұрын

same... but I disliked forCenk. Thumbs up for Sam, but I don't want to inflate TYT heads with a like.

@morningstar4873 6 жыл бұрын

Dislike for the TYT

@fromearth6282 6 жыл бұрын

gabs s Word...

@Tommah1000 7 жыл бұрын

The intellectual distance between these two men is quite astounding.

@NRGFL0 7 жыл бұрын

It's like watching a football player discuss islam with a scholarly person... oh wait...

@iDalisMediaTV 7 жыл бұрын

I disagree, in fact Cenk continues throughout the interview to rephrase and wrap his questions up for the audience, he may have to work on his expressive wide eyed nature which lends itself to you thinking he may not be as intellectually prowess as Sammy boy....but I disagree. He in fact as the interviewer, has a much greater burden than Sam since he has to carry the interview, keep the pace, know the next question, listen in the moment and keep the audience informed all at the same time. Which is alot harder than it looks.

@danieljohansson3082 7 жыл бұрын

Watching this discussion made me feel like Cenks mom must be his dads cousin.

@Thegrandvoodoo 7 жыл бұрын

+iDalisMediaTV Hosting an interview is a sign of intellectual prowess? do you know how dumb that is? something tells me that you would be unable to think your way out of cardboard box.

@kevinparsley6806 7 жыл бұрын

One of them is trained in philosophy, where one class would teach focus on truth values and how to construct arguments. Frankly, some of the arguments, while valid are not constructive. The goal of those arguments are clearly to illustrate that divide, and ultimately to discredit.

@chrisnoyes3906 5 ай бұрын

Summary: Sam: all religions aren’t true Cenk: yeah but my previous religion isn’t as bad as the others!

@highpeaks3598 5 ай бұрын

Cenk now claims to be a Muslim now. He always was an Islamist, just said he was agnostic to be trendy and be acceptable to gullable liberal whites.

@thetruth5574 5 ай бұрын

Yeah! Don’t know why anyone takes Cenk seriously

@snorttroll4379 3 ай бұрын

And islam is actually bad?

@arturospeaks 7 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris: The Sun is hot. Cenk: I agree and disagree and this is why.

@iMarimbaFTW 7 жыл бұрын

Cenk: Well, you're not even mentioning the military. Sam Harris: ...What? Cenk, we're talking about the sun.

@ManserJordan 7 жыл бұрын

Art'uro TM could not agree more

@SwagWagen 7 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris: The sun is hot. Cenk: Why yes sam, it is hot. Everything is hot. Heat is the random motion of atoms a vibration. Its only hotter, relative to us. To a supernova it would be cold. Its all relative...a mixture. How it really went.

@Skindoggiedog 7 жыл бұрын

SwagWagen (incorrect spelling, btw) didn't even watch the video. He didn't even watch it. Did not watch the video. Yet here he is telling us how it went. Tell me that's not amazing. That there exists a human being that could spend their time doing such a thing.

@Fetidaf 7 жыл бұрын

Skindoggiedog, his name is a play on words with "Volkswagen" i believe, so its the the correct spelling and not relevant to any discussion thats currently happening in any way/shape/form, back on topic now... I think that's a very accurate assumption of how the hypothetical argument would have happened...

@ashyboy1324 7 жыл бұрын

"Sam Harris is an intellectual black belt" - Joe Rogan

@DonDraperism 7 жыл бұрын

Hardly, but Cenk may very well be the most stupid person on the planet.

@ashyboy1324 7 жыл бұрын

Ajay Harry I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything with less value than what you just said. See what I did there? You probably didn't.

@SM-wu4fp 7 жыл бұрын

Cenk testifies to his ignorant bias very well by defending Salon the cesspool of fake news .

@ashyboy1324 7 жыл бұрын

Igor Dvorzhak chomsky is a great intellectual and to be honest sometimes Sam's criticism of Islam comes off as motivated by something more than dedication to an honest understanding of ideas, however I dont think Chomsky's assessment is complete. Take a look at Hitchens' views on Chomsky I think they're on point.

@mastervolume1508 7 жыл бұрын

Joe Rogan is smarter than all of you. That's for sure. When was the last time Sam Harris wanted to talk to you?

@willthebeast8002 5 күн бұрын

This is a 3-hour long conversation about theology splitting hairs, literally. Two atheist sitting down proving each other's point that religion leads to turmoil and disconnect. The irony of this video is in and of itself the reason why religion will never get us off this rock...

@SuperSpeedMonkey 6 ай бұрын

Imagine talking to a 5 year old for 3 hours.

@FiveGeeks 7 жыл бұрын

this is why I stopped watching tyt

@000121m 7 жыл бұрын

FiveGeeks The dude is thick as shit. This entire interview was utterly cringeworthy. I felt terrible for Sam as he tried to get through to this idiot.

@FiveGeeks 7 жыл бұрын

Hey I just posted a Alex Jones parody commercial on my channel, can you guys check it out and let me know what you think ?

@Thsicnfnsjsbxnf 7 жыл бұрын

FiveGeeks I came back to TYT just to watch this. I left as fast as I came.

@davidfgranger 6 жыл бұрын

I was going to like this comment, but you're on 666.

@ChicagoMike85 6 жыл бұрын

FiveGeeks have you ever se at fiveguys?

@4DsProductions 8 жыл бұрын

This interview is the reason I now say "I used to watch TYT" I wonder how many people here feel the same way.

@eelsify 8 жыл бұрын

My name is eelsify and I used to be a regressive

@4DsProductions 8 жыл бұрын

Same here. Those were dark times lol

@tomharcourt2553 7 жыл бұрын

Same

@dailygrindism 7 жыл бұрын

Bobby Tannock feel the same way

@VVoicu25 7 жыл бұрын

Used to watch it regularly. I can't stand it now

@susanlorraineknox5780 6 ай бұрын

Watching this for the second time. Can't get enough.

@yoo_zen 4 ай бұрын

Get a history book! :)

@PaulLadendorf 7 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else notice the difference in emotional maturity between the two...not to say anything about intellectual ability.

@Hunn1313 7 жыл бұрын

Quite a bit. Mr. Harris was speaking to an arrogant child. Cenk is embarassing, unwilling to listen. Cenk just waits for his turn to speak; most of the time not waiting but rudely interrupting.

@yoboychilli8173 7 жыл бұрын

at least cenk is not as bad as the emotional ben affleck

@FilterBySubgenre 7 жыл бұрын

true

@g0vinda337 7 жыл бұрын

Yea Sam Harris acts like a 5 year old. Everytime you see a Sam Harris video he has to spend a half hour defending himself. Watching Harris speak is like watching Donald Trump.

@alexistousignant722 7 жыл бұрын

Trying to get other people to understand you should have the highest priority in a discussion. With Cenk constantly ignoring points he made, that did already answer his question, Sam had no other choice but to elaborate on his ideas and stands on certain issues. If there was someone that acted like a 5 yeah old, it would sadly be cenk here...

@jameshayes2934 9 жыл бұрын

It is a disappointment that Cenk didn't seem to understand logic or reasoning and seemed more interested in rebutting rather than discussing

@neilwendylauren 9 жыл бұрын

IMO he does understand. He is being intellectually dishonest.

@neilwendylauren 9 жыл бұрын

***** Good point

@freemanwalking1867 9 жыл бұрын

James Hayes FUCK ALL U IGNORANT BIGOTS!

@TheMusterionOfRock 9 жыл бұрын

borhanus Then watch it again, because you didn't understand what he said. He is not playing any blame game, but you have to be honest about that religions are not the same and some religions are worse than others.

@neilwendylauren 9 жыл бұрын

borhanus Then you need to read some of his books. The irony of your comment is that most of Harris's criticism is specifically directed at Christians.

@GargamelTheGreat 5 ай бұрын

This was an amazing 3 hours, honestly. I don't like cenk but this convo with Sam was just...wow. You should absolutely make videos like this again.

@Amos_Lee 4 ай бұрын

Can we get an update? Very relevant conversation for today.

@BarrelShape 8 жыл бұрын

LOL the number of times Sam Harris spends 5-10 minutes trying to explain a complex point of argument, Cenk utterly fails to understand it, and Harris just facepalms silently and says "Let's move on..."

@anetteedington4355 8 жыл бұрын

because cent is an idiot

@BarrelShape 8 жыл бұрын

Samantha Brenner He's been completely consistent on this issue. If you read his books, you'll recognize the same arguments as you see him using here. The true hypocrisy is that after hearing (and claiming to understand) all of these arguments from Harris himself in the three hours he generously granted to TYT, Cenk continued to slam Harris WITH THE SAME MISREPRESENTATIONS OF HIS VIEWS THAT HE WAS ATTACKING BEFORE THE INTERVIEW. it's absolutely baffling - until you realize that maybe Cenk really is too dense to be able to wrap his head around the actual arguments Harris is making.

@SuperCatTime 8 жыл бұрын

+Anette Edington Fiddy?

@christopherceasar5353 8 жыл бұрын

lol just trolling everywhere.

@benbourke7353 8 жыл бұрын

"Ok Sam well now I'm going to tell you why I think you're wrong".

@arcenox 8 жыл бұрын

This was not a proud moment to be a Turk...

@SuperTyler53 8 жыл бұрын

true

@kennyphelps1160 8 жыл бұрын

And anytime anyone with any kind of intelligence or IQ ends up debating any of your young Turk friends it will not be a proud moment for you look forward to this happening anytime and intellectual is brought on the show your panel simply isn't up to the task of dealing with the higher intelligence

@rajkoelguapo12 4 ай бұрын

lol

@joecahill1994 4 ай бұрын

Quite a pleasant discussion to listen to. Thank you Sam and Cenk!

@davidwhite2949 Ай бұрын

Thank you, Sam Harris, for your clarity We would like to think that all cultures, all doctrines, are the same and are of equal value, but they’re not

@schilling3003 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think Cenk understands basic logic and reasoning.

@josephinhiding3595 7 жыл бұрын

One of the things both of these guys keep arguing about are Sins of the past, of the religions. I'll argue, that i's less relevant than the evolution of the religion, the development of it's moral philosophy, and consequently where it stands today. What I see is that Western religion has advanced by being exposed to the philosophers of the 18th and 19th century while Islam is still behind a couple hundred years (well at least 200). Religion in the west still plays a significant role that the philosophers failed to fill . philosophers left behind a moral void, in my opinion.

@AppleJacksCereal 7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Schilling Cenk is a word twisting angry man who constantly bullies his opponent and panders to his audience (talking about his politicon videos)

@shannongoatright7025 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think this is surprising. A very, very small percentage of (at least Americans) are required to take philosophy 101, which is typically, basic logic and reasoning.

@dubbatrubba1759 7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Schilling sCank just wants to win the argument regardless of how much he lies.

@Weez2202 7 жыл бұрын

He went to Columbia Law. Much of his commentary makes me wonder how he got in but he's not an idiot.

@KyleClements 7 жыл бұрын

Cenk is trying so hard to misinterpret what Sam Harris is saying. Is it deliberate dishonesty on Cenk's part, or just his profound ignorance showing?

@longgone23 7 жыл бұрын

What you call misinterpret is him being critical?

@zylo999 7 жыл бұрын

When he cannot even find common ground on the definition of the basic laws of probability, yes I do think he is misinterpreting.

@longgone23 7 жыл бұрын

Well, he might not be much of a philosopher. But that wasn't the most important point in the debate was it? For example his points about slippery slop of torture is not a bad one, just because Harris manages to sound more brainy and logical doesn't mean he is right. Now it's Trump's presidency. I'm glad torture is not allowed.

@shannongoatright7025 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's deliberate, I think there's suggestion shown throughout the video that Cenk is unable to detach his own bias from his viewpoints.

@hittman1412 7 жыл бұрын

Cenk is just dumb.

@Williamwilliam1531 Күн бұрын

So THIS is why some channels turn comments off, lol

@nickdac8190 6 ай бұрын

In today’s India there seems to be more animosity towards the Muslin Mughal Empire than towards British Empire!!

@a354681 4 ай бұрын

and still India has one of the most populations of Muslims then any other Muslim country?? And that too Muslims are doing better than ever before financially, socially, politically and education wise? Muslims of Indian do not need your support. Typing reckless messages in KZfaq. Visit India and see it for yourself!

@mrt445 Ай бұрын

The British Empire are no longer an issue in India or out of India. In fact the UK currently has a Prime Minister of Indian descent who can practice his Hindu faith openly and it's not an issue for anyone.

@munish259272 Ай бұрын

You are crazy

@MaddinW1993 7 жыл бұрын

Take a shot every time Cenk agrees with himself

@robertbaur3145 7 жыл бұрын

and die of alcohol poisoning??

@kawhileonard3745 7 жыл бұрын

brotherBox 😂😂

@conjandysecurity 7 жыл бұрын

2 minutes in... hickup

@vikingd517 7 жыл бұрын

10 mins... drunk as a skunk...

@harrisonjananto91 7 жыл бұрын

brotherBox end of video = dead

@kamiltrzebiatowski9331 3 жыл бұрын

Cenk: "I'm not an expert on this." Sam: "But I am." GOLD.

@thefearlessobserver3455 3 жыл бұрын

A Jordan Peterson line

@perpersson442 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobcorra4798 1:16:00

@Fireoncityy 3 жыл бұрын

That's really far from what was said

@Fireoncityy 3 жыл бұрын

@Reggie Jackman sam didn't claim he was an expert in this moment. Watch what was said. Sam is more than qualified

@Dodo-dy1uq 3 жыл бұрын

Timestamp please

@moathdw910 2 ай бұрын

I would never get bored listining to Sam! I love his logic and his way of expressing things!

@MarkJones-n 2 ай бұрын

Why Sam even agreed to sit down with Cenk is baffling. Cenk also thought that running for president of the US was a great idea. Sit down and go away Cenk. Your hot-headed diatribes and bad ideas are legion.

@MeserithSama 6 жыл бұрын

Did Cenk just disagree with probability?

@thorondor4012 6 жыл бұрын

Samuel Simms OF COOOOUUURSE he did

@fulca4389 6 жыл бұрын

Cenk just discovered another branch of probability theory... professor “it’s probable that” student: “hmm, based on Cenk theory, we just don’t believe that!”

@conneradamek474 6 жыл бұрын

JUST GOOOGLE ITTT!

@candycolriv 6 жыл бұрын

C Adamek 😂😂

@dewilew2137 6 жыл бұрын

He really did. I understand what he was trying to say, but he missed Sam’s point entirely. It seems like he just disagrees with everything for the sake of it.

@robg8203 5 жыл бұрын

Damn, I think Cenk has been watching too much TYT.

@jasonwood7340 5 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite comment.

@DeepBanana 5 жыл бұрын

LOLZ well said, he should probably lay off the buffalo meat too!

@JohnAC4 5 жыл бұрын

Deep Banana hehe

@agamemnon4889 5 жыл бұрын

That’s genius

@1972danhall 3 ай бұрын

If anyone says that homosexuality is bad, I will not agree with them. I’m a straight white male. I know many people who are homosexual. I would defend them with my life.

@yumyum723 Ай бұрын

Same here buddy.

@gackerman99 Күн бұрын

9 years later and I sincerely hope that Cenk has, at some point since then, read a single book

@aj-kl7de 4 жыл бұрын

Credit to TYT for not disabling the comments section

@williamwhitfield6225 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't give them to much credit it's more likely thier arrogance that caused this situation driving it. When you turn off comments or take down a video your essentially admitting defeat and waving a white flag. Cenk and TYT will never admit wrong or fault they will just double down on it. Cenk's the kind of guy who walks away from this interview when any sane person can see he looked completely ridiculous and ignorant. And high five all his employees and ho "wow what a asshole that guy is, we really took it to him. I feel like that whent really well for us". And all his employees who are scared to criticize clap and agree.

@jamesnicol7077 4 жыл бұрын

My inclination to agree with this statement is evidence of how pathetically censorious the left has become

@kelvinnguyen3038 4 жыл бұрын

credit to The You Tube?

@jesserogalski1402 4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Just like bombed their own video lol

@Iamradthad 4 жыл бұрын

Lol I never thought of that 😂

@NorCalNBK 9 жыл бұрын

This was like trying to watch a philosopher try to explain logical reasoning to a caveman.... oh wait.

@plaguebringer420 8 жыл бұрын

+ConfrontationalRealist Though he's not exactly a philosopher, he does have a degree in philosophy and can write about it like he was a philosopher. Cenk is a youtube journalist.

@plaguebringer420 8 жыл бұрын

ConfrontationalRealist That's correct. Harris not being a cult leader is another fact. He's a neuroscientist and an author with a degree in philosophy. There's a big difference.

@plaguebringer420 8 жыл бұрын

ConfrontationalRealist So since some people are fans of their's, they're cult leaders? Every popular author has a "cult following", are you just using it that way or seriously comparing his following to a cult? That would make J.K. Rowling, J.R. Tolkien, Stephen King, etc. cult leaders, which kind of dulls the meaning.

@SirGriffin87 8 жыл бұрын

+ConfrontationalRealist You say very stupid shit. I bet that you are alone and no one likes you.

@Rifkin777 8 жыл бұрын

+GamersInfoOn Cenk couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag. He doesn't understand fallacies, nor does he understand logic.

@07105larry 5 ай бұрын

This is what a civilized conversation/debate looks like. I wish we could see more like this between adults.

@thetruth5574 5 ай бұрын

There was one adult. Sam Harris LOL

@amyh9512 4 ай бұрын

@thetruth5574 how so? 🤔

@integralmark 25 күн бұрын

this conversation was an amazing accomplishment by both men

@AndyG_MTB 6 жыл бұрын

This intellectual bullying, Sam's playing 3D chess and Cenk's still trying to get the hang of hungry hungry hippos

@reticularimismariocuomos3823 6 жыл бұрын

AXG remember when Clinton was playing chess and 3D chess and in real world trump won cuz he was playing hungry hippos and twister!!

@Nero-xv 6 жыл бұрын

A better anology would be tic tac toe. The complexity of Sam's arguments are very clear to wrap your head around.

@stefjonesee6180 6 жыл бұрын

AXG hahahaha nice one!

@12FU 6 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha

@GuamTippedOver 6 жыл бұрын

too funny - legit laugh out loud

@collarbonehigh8713 7 жыл бұрын

I'm embarrassed for Cenk and I'm frustrated for Sam.

@karah64 3 ай бұрын

Cenk is just there to be argumentative and nothing else!

@elizabethjgall8054 5 күн бұрын

I found this very interesting and informative. I have very little other reference point but as a beginning, thank you.

@mitchgoldstein6720 2 күн бұрын

Listen to some Sam Harris podcasts👍

@lambert1702 7 жыл бұрын

Poor Sam having to deal with this obtuse simpleton...

@DentfreeEurope 5 ай бұрын

Such an amazingly good and needed talk on this very delicate subject !!! It's a 3 hour long debate, but boy, it has been all worth it !!🤗

@micahmartens7770 8 жыл бұрын

Uygur is unbelievable. He doesn't even get the simple logic in Harris' arguments.

@NeoFryBoy 8 жыл бұрын

He was just defending his singular position, which is that he's right and Sam is wrong. Some of his best arguments are summed up as, "No, you're wrong. I won't agree with that."

@NeoFryBoy 8 жыл бұрын

+Afiba Abdul there have been 30 jihadist attacks in 20 countries this year alone. Over a 1500 people injured and over 600 killed this year alone. We're not even halfway through the year. That doesn't include public stonings or "honour killings" which are 100% driven by Islamic teachings.

@mahmoudahmed6426 8 жыл бұрын

he's just trying to extend the interview with his professor. nice work cenk

@Darkeydance 8 жыл бұрын

As a quick aside, both Cenk and Sam agreed that honour killings are not a consequence of Islam. It was actually a remarkable moment of the interview.

@N07NA 8 жыл бұрын

If those attacks are informed by christian beliefs, and you poll the populations and there's an alarming rate of ppl who agree that this is acceptable behaviour, than yeah, that should probably be adressed. What does that have to do with the issue discussed here though? Does one abhorrent act of one religion excuse the abhorrent act of another?

@americanhooligans 5 ай бұрын

Years later and Sam is still a Saint for dealing with Genk the way he did.

@farhadoveisi2248 4 ай бұрын

Cenk, sam is %100 rught about everything

@eleanorfitz2143 9 жыл бұрын

Cenk seems unwilling to give Sam an inch in trying to understand what he's actually saying. Could have been a much more effective dialogue if he had attempted to do so.

@Nycad2k 9 жыл бұрын

***** Dude, look at all the other comments. For the plurality of top comments, the initial remark is responded to germanely. But because she's a woman, you disregard the content, and only compliment her on her looks. I'm not down with the whole micro-aggression, SJW froth, but jesus, at least establish a pretense for your trivializing response. :\

@98bigbutt 9 жыл бұрын

I saw clips of this video and as a TYT fan, I was disappointed with Cenk and his ultimately cutting off Sam Harris' points of view with the truth of these Islamic Jihadists are causing the most trouble in this world through mass murder and avoiding the topic to not accept the realities of these atrocities. Good job Sam Harris.

@TayyyKLDN 9 жыл бұрын

Eleanor Fitz u look like a racist

@OscarGonzalezTheRealOne 9 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Eleanor Fitz. This interview had so much more potential.

@deadshot1995 9 жыл бұрын

Eleanor Fitz It seems every time Sam makes a valid point and backs it up with strong evidence, Cenk has to go back to acting as if he's being somehow intolerant or stereotypical, no matter how clear Sam makes it that this isn't the case.

@ziadayyas8612 8 жыл бұрын

Sam is in a whole intellectual league of his own. How gross and racist of him.

@andrewcase2010 8 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@melinagomez8427 8 жыл бұрын

hahahahahahaha

@shader5410 8 жыл бұрын

its gross its racist -batman

@fapl985 8 жыл бұрын

You can't compare an intellectual expert in one area with a journalist.

@BioStuff415 8 жыл бұрын

indeed...

@discorrdat 5 ай бұрын

Philosophy doesn’t make it right. What about your morals? What about your intuition? What about your heart?

@Cedrou21 4 ай бұрын

Wish I had 1/10 of Cenk’s confidence 😂😂

@highdesertsunset3011 5 жыл бұрын

I don't think Cenk even understands Sam's rebuttals. This is like watching a child arguing with an adult.

@RichardEnglander 4 жыл бұрын

Does he not get them on purpose or is it just beyond him?

@Mylada 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardEnglander For me it seems like Cenks cognitive dissonance kicks in before he even gives himself time to understand what is actually being said

@RichardEnglander 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mylada yeah, it's ok because Cenk makes the standard bad arguments, I've been having a similar chat on my FB and the same poor counter points come up. There is definitely better Harris to listen to, but here the fault definitely isn't that of Harris. Cenk is just a Muppet

@LeviNotik 4 жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same thing. Cenk is really a low intellect person.

@LabTech41 4 жыл бұрын

@Damon Dogwood To be fair, you should watch this, if you have the time to do so; even though it's cringe AF at times, it provides a wealth of understanding as to the dementia that's sunk into the left in the last decade or so. I mean, imagine what Harris had to endure by being a part of this: we could all learn by that example.

@brianbransfield 6 жыл бұрын

This is like Floyd Mayweather fighting my Grandmother.

@5easy 6 жыл бұрын

stephen Toth painfully unfunny

@stephentoth6003 6 жыл бұрын

Axhiro Madlander Aww man, i remember when i posted that thinking "if Axhiro Madlander doesnt find this funny im just a failure, and hell never invite me to go hang with the cool kids" . So thank you for being honest. I guess ill never get jiggy with it now

@5easy 6 жыл бұрын

nice man, you passed the test by not caring about my judgement. Welcome to the frat.

@user-fw3hp7bb6d 6 жыл бұрын

What a comment 😂😂😂

@alexanderthegreat7985 6 жыл бұрын

agreed

@newinformation1942 5 ай бұрын

To some, religeon is but a tool used to control those seeking guidence.

@josephwonder6388 2 ай бұрын

Cenk! Brilliant talk! I learned so much from BOTH of you. By far, one of the best debates I've seen on your show. It has always been a subject close to my heart. I missed the online furor over Mr. Harris' past statements, and interpretations online, but I think it was brilliant of you to get together the clarify, and air out differences. Thank you!

@MrRyanSD Ай бұрын

I may have missed it, what did you learn here from Cenk?

@covill07 4 жыл бұрын

If I was to wager a guess, I would wager that 95% of why Cenk left Islam is because of bacon.

@Justinsingleton83 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@JButterZJ 3 жыл бұрын

the reason he left is only to always say that he left and take that as an argument why he is objectiv

@cullenarthur8879 3 жыл бұрын

@@JButterZJ so he's faking when he say's he's an atheist to appear unbiased when it comes to islam?

@jensen8058 3 жыл бұрын

@@cullenarthur8879 honestly I don't know about Cenk. But I know so many people doing this for the exact reason you mentioned.

@cullenarthur8879 3 жыл бұрын

@@jensen8058 personally, I find that hard to believe. I'm an atheist, so I find it easy to believe that he's an atheist. For a Muslim to leave Islam and declare he's an atheist is not a small deal, and most likely would not be done for such a stupid reason.

@13CaptainPrice 6 жыл бұрын

It was inevitable, but this was the day The Young Turks died

@ilcrawfo 5 жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

@danieldevito6380 5 жыл бұрын

13CaptainPrice Actually, TYT was dead on arrival. How could they have ever expected to be credible when it's just a group of radical, liberal morons, lead by the biggest imbecile they could find?

@theylhompst 5 жыл бұрын

Then Ben Shapiro stomped on their grave...

@clayefferson 6 ай бұрын

Always enjoy when peeps allow conversations that represent opposing sides. Well done

@coreymonsta7505 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, just Sam

@ilikemr2s 5 жыл бұрын

Check says he is atheist but gets reeeeeeeal defensive when it comes to Islam.

@jjmcweaver4522 5 жыл бұрын

and early in the debate he states that even though people disavow their birth religions they still tend to get defensive when someone criticizes them....he meant that towards sam i think but its blatantly obvious thays why he defends islam so furiously and attacks jews and christians. its his familial religion. bottom line whos the ones commiting the atrocities here and now? which religion is unable to catch up with the times?

@junkscience6397 5 жыл бұрын

25:35 Cenk basically refuses to admit the validity of the Pew poll (and his guest's claim that "extremists" does not mean "30% of the religion".) 26:10 Cenk: "NO!"

@ES350gitgapped 5 жыл бұрын

Which implies nothing except that he cares about people, even those he does not agree with.

@ES350gitgapped 5 жыл бұрын

@Kim Numero Uno The Armenian genocide thing passed. Wasn't that addressed on TYT by Cenk and Ana? Having a different opinion on Islam vs other major religions does not mean it's a bias. I see how his reactions appear biased, but I think that's just how he converses. I'm with Sam Harris on this debate/discussion, regardless.

@bricecate 5 жыл бұрын

He even laughed off atheist who used to be Christian's, saying people always defend the ideology they grew up with, then fights hard to defend islam.

@terrygrant9140 5 жыл бұрын

Cenk actually believes he is Sam's intellectual equal. Cenk's chair is smarter than he is.

@BastiaanvandeWerk 5 жыл бұрын

It's worse - he even seems to believe he's the smarter of the two.

@travelssrb 5 жыл бұрын

Cenk level of hubris is just outstanding in this video. There is nothing more dangerous than a moron who thinks he's intelligent. Cenk thinks he won this debate along with the one with Ben Shapiro and it just goes to show his intellectual delusion.

@stealthassulter 5 жыл бұрын

You don't even know what intelligence means... So shut the fuk up

@joelundheim1060 5 жыл бұрын

Sam is obviously a smart guy, but I feel his analysis is flawed, Cenk is right in calling him out on a.

@bfrankwithme4514 5 жыл бұрын

@@joelundheim1060 you're right lol

@causeimapunkrocker01 Ай бұрын

If you only knew what was coming in 2024, this conversation will be so different...

@nestopoeta 3 ай бұрын

More relevant today more then ever

@DigThugDoug 4 ай бұрын

Wow. Cenk’s conversational style and energy is so cringy at times that it makes this debate a hard watch. It’s clear that one participant is much more knowledgeable in not only the whole idea but the details as well compared to the other

@politicalpulseshow 6 жыл бұрын

The Better question you guys are missing here is, "How did Sam manage to keep his leg in that position for 3 hours straight?"

@naieemali1114 6 жыл бұрын

That's his physical stance that perms into his superiority complex.

@cembalina8454 6 жыл бұрын

Eye on America News Years of meditation??

@MrSHIRLEY81 6 жыл бұрын

and jiu jitsu

@omarlives 6 жыл бұрын

I was noticing the same thing but he switches his legs if you pay even closer attention.

@seanbinghamvldable 6 жыл бұрын

Or why nobody ironed the bottom of Cenks pants. He looks like a child dressed him. lol Am I the only one driven nuts by that???

@Lucas-ih4th 6 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris, the most patient person on planet earth

@7Be 6 жыл бұрын

Lucas Jakobsen Idk, I think is have to give that to Richard Dawkins for putting up with that Creationist lady. Can't remember her name.

@asif9877 6 жыл бұрын

When did this happen? WHEREISTHEEVIDENCE WHEREISTHEEVIDENCE! lolol

@MCMaterac 6 жыл бұрын

dr Jordan Peterson has lot of patience as well, trying to reason them SJWs.

@tidal9 6 жыл бұрын

Because it's considered rude to get impatient with retards.

@xvipurplemoney7793 6 жыл бұрын

I think it’s because he meditates

@novfromlr 4 ай бұрын

Love how they leave out the child sex slaves in the tulmound

@khudadatbaluch7884 6 ай бұрын

Allah is most capable of helping them prevail.

@TechGamesAU 4 жыл бұрын

It was at this moment, five years ago, I unsubscribed from TYT.

@valjohnson7112 4 жыл бұрын

same lol. somehow this video came up in my recommended again today so I came back to look at the comments

@jonnyboy5357 4 жыл бұрын

Im just arriving to the party...arrived here from watching trump best roasts videos lol..i seen right away tyt for what they were..scum...cant fkn stand them! Lol

@danielmclean3733 4 жыл бұрын

This was the night Dave Rubin quit

@DeepSkyDude 4 жыл бұрын

Same.

@vaden706 4 жыл бұрын

Ditto, this was my moment of clarity... since then after seeing their regressive, racist agenda driven show I was appalled that I ever followed their channel. Now I stop by on occasion just to laugh or red pill the comment section

@BRBWaffles 7 жыл бұрын

I like how Cenk brings two giant stacks of paper, and Sam just brings his brain.

@Klash716 7 жыл бұрын

BRBWaffles it's an interview. That's what usually happens. Have you ever gone to a job interview and brought paper with you or is it usually the other way round

@bradgarrison7256 7 жыл бұрын

Those giant stacks of paper are audience member questions and Sam's writings...

@bobbymoore3862 7 жыл бұрын

Brad Garrison is it?? I believe so also cuz I believe u r righr

@dolam Жыл бұрын

I know that it only a stack of questions in front of him, but I think that this is the best comment yet.

@vernchaput6368 Жыл бұрын

@@bobbymoore3862 he said it was 75 questions sent in to him in very beginning of interview

@livealoha50f 6 ай бұрын

Problem is religion is in sanity . It’s coo coo crazy. On all levels -this is going to be funny in 100 years. This debate is over. We have science, give it up