James 2 video below here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epybmb2JktrPdo0.html

You are not saved by works, however by your deeds you are known.

Actually, he does have some good points.. We are truly given salvation as a gift only by grace from Him by believing. However, if your faith is not producing any signs of being saved and set apart, then you’re just the servant that buried the talents.

I think you are splitting hairs here.. he never said its our faithful obedience that saves us, its our obedience BORN out our very faith. When he says 'faithful obedience' he doesnt mean 'perfect' obedience, he means the obedience is born out of faith in Christ, which it should be. And out of this faith is born 'works' good works born out of faith. You seem to be missing the forest for the trees here i feel.

I have been watching Sam Shamoun for over 2yrs and His teaching is on point. You didn't watch the full video. I agree 100% with Sam here

I think I actually agree with Sam in what he’s trying to say. You cannot go around saying you have faith with zero evidence of it.

Faith is Obedience Without some level of obedience, we cannot call it Faith

‭2 John 1:6 KJV‬ [6] And this is love, that WE WALK after HIS commandments.

Sam’s right on this one. Keep seeking and you’ll arrive at the correct understanding of salvation.

I don’t know, Caleb, that he’s wrong. He seems to be clear that faith comes first, then faithfulness in following Christ’s teachings. I don’t hear him saying that works are required for salvation. The Bible does say to work out your salvation.

‭Revelation 2:10 KJV‬ [10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: BE THOU FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH, and I will give thee a crown of life.

He prays to Mary. Enough said.

This went a little far calling Sam mentally unstable. He is a brother in Christ, and he does lot of good thing he is a human he will make mistakes I think it’s should be a great idea to call him and talk to him about that and he will learn from you instead of embarrassing him. About being abusive first you need to learn what group of people Sam deal with , he deal with Muslims and if you are trying to convince Muslims you have to act like how Sam acts so I support your channel but sometimes don’t just make videos because you see one error then you make a person to be portrayed as a false teacher.

Caleb, your gift of discernment has helped me so much! Many thanks as always. ❤✝️👍

Those verses from the first few chapters of Romans are about being converted (Abraham declared righteous in Genesis 15). James 2 is about life after conversion (after Abraham was declared righteous, Genesis 22). Noah is listed in Hebrews 11… If he would have believed without works the ark would not have been built. People that say they believe in Jesus but don’t do what he said are building on sand.

Let's pray for sam 🙏in JESUS mighty precious name Amen.

Works... obedience is a result of faith. You will know them by their fruits. You first trust in Christ, then you obey his commandments. They are connected but faith always comes before works

will you ever make a response to kyle’s video on your critique of orthodoxy?

Another Great teaching Caleb. Many scriptures are in support of your teaching about faith. Ephesians 2:8-9. Thanks again for your efforts.

Hes right. Why call Him Lord but dont do what He says? Make ur calling and election sure but bringing urself into subjection or be castaway like Paul said.

He was not saying : Faith + Works. You can't walk away from a man who is suffering and think that you are doing a good deed. We are Not saved by works either. Can we just simply sit without helping anyone and say that we have faith in Christ? No. That is correct. If we love God, we will AUTOMATICALLY work. But if we WORK with an intention to go to heaven. It is work based salvation. But if we Have Abundant FAITH, we will AUTOMATICALLY work. The word AUTOMATIC is important. It is the fruit of the spirit. When we are having faith, we will do works. But if we do works and thinking that: "I am obeying GOD." Then, we have to investigate our heart whether we are doing those works to get to heaven or doing it because we love the LORD? It is very simple to understand. God is sacrificial. So, when we do works and think that work is necessary for salvation. Then it means we are NOT doing works because we are SACRIFICIAL like GOD. Instead, we are doing those works to get to heaven. ( That is not SACRIFICE ) SACRIFICE = FORGETTING about our desires. ( So, we cannot do works to earn heaven. )

Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

Please debate him face to face, dont just find fault behind him

So if he’s preaching another gospel. Why would you recommend any to go and watch his channel? Don’t get it twisted

Another huge issue with Sam is not merely his ungainly, abusive behavior but the fact that he doesn't appear to have a priest or pastor who holds him accountable. Had he gone to the Assyrian Church in the East, Orthodox or Catholic churches under a priest there's no way his priest or bishop would allow his narcissistic tactics.

‭John 14:15 KJV‬ [15] If ye love ME, KEEP MY commandments.

I used to live by this kind of teaching and I understand its devastating effects. You will begin to question your salvation and have mental issues...anxiety will be prevalent. No wonder he says "please forgive me! Please forgive me!" He doesn't believe he has already been forgiven. Peace comes when you truly believe Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and our righteous deed are filthy rags.

How can His grace be a Gift if we have to earn it?

What Sam said already makes sense to me. I don't see anything heretical in his statements. I beg you to stop spreading discord among Christians. That is truly the last thing we need right now.

May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your ministry brother

Sam isn't wrong here. We are saved when we trust Jesus as Lord. We can't have faith without obedience. Obedience helps complete our faith.

Sam teaches Catholicism

Brother Caleb, I have to side with Sam on this one.

Excellent video brother. Way to handle the word of God with a diligence defense!

"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." -(Isaiah 8:20)

I really feel pity for people who dont have time to preach the gospel to the needy but they keep find fault to every preachers. Remember one day each one of us we have to stand infront of God's throne and only God will decide who is right and who is wrong.

Sam Shamoun finally coming under scrutiny from fellow Christians? Who’d have thunk? God bless you.

I think people like nt wright, and Matthew bates and edit mcknight etc define pistus as believing loyalty, allegiance to a king essentially. So it’s more of HOW we live opposed to what we believe. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it more. Matthew bates book is called allegiance alone

I’m so glad I’m saved by the completed work of Christ. If it had anything at all to do with me, I would be so lost. Romans 7:15-20

Sadly, Sam comes from a works-based Assyrian church, then he 'becomes' an evangelical Christian, then dabbles with the Orthodox Church and now he's a fully paid-up member of Roman Catholicism. This is the road to full-blown Works Salvation

Great Video Caleb! well done man. I think when Sam says "Faith IS Faithfulness" he is preaching a kind of works-based salvation - no way around it. Maybe a few additional points to yours: Romans 10:9 "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." This text shows that genuine faith is not merely a mental assent or simply a profession, but there is a possession element to genuine faith. That is to say, faith takes hold of Christ. So genuine faith is both a profession "declare with your mouth" and a possession "believe in your heart". I am saved not because I prayed a prayer once upon a time (Though that is an expression of my faith), but because I believe now in that Christ is MY saviour and has risen from the dead - and so take hold of him through faith. When Sam says "Faith IS Faithfulness" he immediately shifts the focus from the sufficiency of Christ to our own performance (works). Whether he intends to or not. But my "faithfulness" will always be imperfect, and if I cling to it for my assurance I will be discouraged (those who claim to be without sin are liars). But when I look to Christ and cling to him in FAITH (not faithfulness) then my assurance is secure - because although my faithfulness is imperfect - Christ is not. James is evaluating whether we had living/genuine faith to begin with - he is not saying Faith is Faithfulness. I have heaps of respect for Sam - sad he said what he did in this one.

I'm also an admirer of Sam Shamoun, and also have reservations about his recent dabbling into EO/RC excesses i.e. prayer to saints & icon veneration. But he's a great brother who has defended the faith against Islam.

Saved through faith. But works are the proof of true faith. Otherwise the faith is empty just as the body without its soul.

‭1 John 2:4 KJV‬ [4] He that saith, I know him, and KEEPETH NOT HIS commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

You are correct, it clearly isn't based on fear, works or anything other than the mercy and grace of Christ. It is by faith and choosing to be baptized that we follow Christ, look up to him for all things and believe on his name in all things...James chapter 2 opens up comparing a rich man and a poor man, and that's exactly what 2:24 is about, this whole chapter is about those prosparity preachers vs. the poor essentially. One wouldn't put themselves over others essentially, not a cause for salvation, so yes, Sam is off big time here in this regard. Romans 4:5 King James Version 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Luke 23 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. Animal Sacrifices never took away sins, only Christ has, animal sacrifice was just to remind us of the law and to help us follow them. Hebrews 10 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law Parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector

I used to love Sam, though he became increasingly callous and crude to even his listeners, then started teaching Catholic doctrine. A real shame, he is very smart and has done a lot of good to expose false JW and Muslim teachings

The most optimal understanding is that salvation is by faith, which necessarily leads to works, rather than faith alone in isolation from the life it ought to produce , so Sam is technically more right.

We must be honest here, Sam is wrong in this regard of faith equaling works in regards to Salvation. Scripture is our ultimate authority no matter how we love Sam but we stick to scripture even he contradicts it in a specific matter.

I trust brother Caleb's objectivity in discernment and Sam is very or extremely good against Islam I have a lot of respect for both you guys❤

First off, I'm not a fan of some of the things Sam says and how he says them. However, you are not being just with Sam in this video. To start, I noticed that you conveniently read only the beginning portion of the definition of pistis in the Vine's dictionary. It goes on to say: "The main elements in "faith" in its relation to the invisible God, as distinct from "faith" in man, are especially brought out in the use of this noun and the corresponding verb, pisteuo; they are (1) a firm conviction, producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation or truth, e.g., 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12; (2) a personal surrender to Him, John 1:12; (3) a conduct inspired by such surrender, 2 Corinthians 5:7 . Prominence is given to one or other of these elements according to the context. All this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural exercise, which consists of an opinion held in good "faith" without necessary reference to its proof." Pay attention to number 3 especially. This agrees with John in 3:36 where faith is equated with obedience; this also agrees with James when he says that faith without works is dead (btw, the term "faith alone" is only found in James, where the whole phrase is "NOT by faith alone"); this all also agrees with Paul when in the first and last chapters of Romans he refers to "the obedience of faith." What Sam is saying is not works-based, for if it were he would be saying that we earn our salvation through our works. But what he is saying, as the Scriptures teach, the faith in Christ that saving is a faith that obeys God. No doubt Sam, as the Bible, is teaching against antinomianism, which many think grace teaches unfortunately. You have misrepresented not only Sam, but worse, the word of God, and therefore God Himself.

PSALMS 119:115 "Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God." KING JAMES VERSION (KJV)

It makes sense to me that being faithful requires us to live the way Christ wants us to, I could say I’m grateful about my car, but if it’s dirty and unwashed, am I really grateful? Also, Sam is a warrior for Christ, and while he is not perfect, he answers some fools according to their folly, which is appropriate in some cases.

Calling obedience to God heretical is a dangerous place to be.

GREAT VIDEO EXPOSING THAT FRAUD

Thank you for posting this video. It's so nice to hear from one of Gods ministers who tells us the truth. God bless you.

I PRAY HE GET RIGHT WITH THE WORD OF GOD AMEN

Right on brother, as usual! I think what's confusing for many is the phenomenon of so many "believers" living unholy lives, thinking their mental agreement is their faith. Frustrating. If you actually believe, your actions will show it!

‭Revelation 22:14 KJV‬ [14] Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

1 Corinthians 13 1 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a FAITH that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

The Demons "believe", but repentance is not an option with them as it is for those who choose to BELIEVE on The Name of Jesus Christ

Why is it so hard for people to understand this? You are saved by grace alone. However without works (wedding garment , talents ,oil) God will not accept you.

Thank you for this video! You are brave!

My dear Brother, can you Please do a video on the "Sound Mind" that only God can give us, and what it means in regards to people getting dementia and other mental/brain problems? I struggle with this because my mother, sometimes she is the Best "Christian" to talk to, but most of the time, it is like trying to talk to the devil himself, has God turned her over to her own delusions? This has been this way all of my 55 yrs, and I want to be able to reach her, but I honestly do not know how to, your help would be ever so much appreciated, God Bless!

Eve sinned coz she disobeyed.. so what’s wrong with being obedient?

My issue with one of Sam’s arguments in the clip you provided is that it seems like he is trying to draw a parallel between the angels’/demons’ belief in Jesus and man’s faith in Jesus. Man’s eternal salvation through Jesus Christ is a completely separate issue from the fallen angels’ eventual eternal damnation. Why is he trying to draw some sort of correlation between the two?

Thanks

Thanks for exposing this guy!

You know you should have done brother? You should have contacted sam and discuss that matter with him before making a video like this to discredit the man. Shame on you sir for trying to degrade your brother in christ before talking with him first.

Sam has such a vile mouth. He uses scripture to justify his wicked mouth.

Funny how God keeps doing the sorting right before our eyes, out of their very own mouth as they call others false! 🤔Wild! We are to Obey! Obedience is not works!!! I once liked this channel! Moving on! ✌🏼

One who has faith in Christ, must obey Jesus Christ in action. So, I do agree with Sam Shamoun

sam shomoun i agree with because with real faith comes obedience how can one say they have faith with no obedience to God, it feels like your telling people not to do works when its not saying that its more saying just dont count on them saving you but we still need to do works even ministry counts as works! Proverbs 20:11 KJV - Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right. Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Proverbs 16:3 KJV - Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established. Matthew 16:27 KJV - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 2 Timothy 4:5 KJV - But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. Revelation 2:26 KJV - And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Ephesians 4:12 KJV - For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

He is doing exactly what JW's do with faith. In their translation they will put "faithfulness" instead of "faith". So sad considering his ministry has helped me so much to know how to deal with JW's false teachings. But honestly I stopped listening to him a few years ago when he said that Calvinist have a different and false God just like the JW's. edit- JW's translate it "exercising faith" or "exercise faith"

I think people get confused with the word works in James faith with deeds verse. The works in James verse isn’t for salvation but to show your faith in Him. If you follow Christ and have faith, you won’t lose salvation but you should show your faith by serving Christ.

Thank you brother Caleb, please always stay teaching the truth and exposing falsehoods. God bless you.

Sam Shamoun is a legend. He's one of the very few Christians who confront Islamists.

Sam point is the very point on the whole book of James, faith that produce good works. Faith save you, and the new life in christ, in you cause you to produce works of love. Both are right.

Jesus said " I am going to the father. YOU will be doing the works I was doing and even greater works when I leave."... Are you going to disobey Jesus? Are you going to disobey the holy spirit? Are you going to disobey the father? They are one...

Thank you

Sam has made an entire series on this, so I would say it would be great to see iThinkB to contact Sam for a friendly conversation as it's hard to comment on a slither of a 2 hour plus video. They are both great at teaching, maybe they both can teach each other and us while they converse and share scripture 🙏

To be justified is to be saved from eternal punishment for our sins because of repenting and putting our faith in Jesus who died for our sins and rose again. Being cleansed by His blood. That scripture in no way undoes all the other scriptures. They compliment and agree with each other as the Bible is the whole Word of God. One scripture does not undo the others. They all go together. If we don't speak it with our mouth then we do not truly believe. For if we believe we will speak it. They work together. Belief and speaking from the heart and spirit and from faith; and belief and repentance. It's all one and the same. You can't have one without the other. You don't have one without the other. The law and statutes show us plainly that we are sinners and no amount of self effort or good deeds will change that. Nor will it purify our hearts or wash our sins away. It won't change us. Only the blood of Jesus will wash our sins away and only Jesus can save us. The Holy Spirit will change us if we let Him. He is a person. Some faith is dead. That is they spout the words and they think they believe but there is no fruit to back it up. No works. The cares of life choke it all out. Again works do Not save. However they are proof of genuine enduring belief and repentance. They are proof of salvation. Dead faith can't save. Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Isaiah 53 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels True faith will act. It will produce repentance and good works. Because of having true faith. Works do not save but they are a result of true faith that reaches the heart and soul and changes us. Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace

James 2 speaks of this ; faith with works are dead.... no contradiction but spiritual understanding needed; salvation is only through Christ Jesus but obedience and repentance is a sign of this change in Christ.... we water down salvation when we think we can live without repentance and obedience; it is biblical; maybe the difference between those who will be raptured and those who remain for further refinement.... pray for understanding

Romans 1:4-6: “…Jesus Christ our Lord, 5through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the *obedience of faith* for the sake of his name among all the nations, including you who are called to belong to Jesus Christ…” Works do not save, but they are a consequence of genuine faith.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. ☝️☝️☝️❤❤

One must distinguish between works of the law (which some rely on for righteousness) and good works (righteous acts of the saints) which God prepared beforehand that we might walk in them. Maranatha

You are saved through faith in Christ Alone.

Obedience is Not works it is a blessing that God gives man for God loves us unconditionally and helps us to obey his Words. Commands. AMEN. You should be careful calling someone a heretic, Jesus said go and Sin No more. Amen.!

‭2 Peter 3:14 KJV‬ [14] Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may BE FOUND of HIM in peace, without spot, and BLAMELESS.

‭Revelation 3:5 KJV‬ [5] He that OVERCOMETH, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I WILL NOT BLOT OUT his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Romans 3:24-28 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. ☝️☝️☝️Salvation is by faith alone through grace alone❤

James affirms that deeds (or actions) are the byproduct of a living faith. Works do not justify us or make us righteous before God, nor are they the means to salvation. Rather, our deeds are the fruit that grows from one who is obedient to God’s commands and transformed by His grace. James 2:26, we read jesus say: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." genuine faith is accompanied by corresponding actions! Sometimes the truth is hard to,accept, but it doesn’t change the fact that Sam speaks the truth.

15:30 Yes, what you said here is so right. A living and active faith that produces works.(Gal.5:22)

God is love. We all fall short and sin. Love is just and merciful. Because God is loving He must judge sin, we all stand judged. Because God is merciful He provided a way out from under the weight of the law and for us to be regenerated. If we trust Jesus shed His sinless blood, died and rose from the grave He forgives us of our sins and gives us a new heart that wants to look God as our Father genuinely and delight in Him, freeing us from being slaves to sin. The rest is our mind catching up with that reality and taking hold of His teaching and truth until He returns, or we die. We aren't saved or kept saved by obedience. We can only be lost through unbelief (trusting in our own righteousness, to be or remain saved) or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (attributing clear works of God, healing/deliverance, to demons and Satan). Commandments aren't have to's, they are what we do because we actually want God's direction and It's what fulfills us. You can't be born again without the desire to honor God. (Works based salvation "Christians" and "lawless Christians" are both wrong.) We love because God first loved us. Jesus is God, the Son, "the first and the last", God along with God the Father "the Lord God", this title is mentioned with being tied to God in Isaiah 44:6-8, and that same is sent along with the Lord God's Spirit in Isaiah 48:11-16. Jesus further claims this title also in Revelation 1:8-17. Leave catholicism/orthodox/protestant churches that preach strife, or inform them.

Good job ‭Romans 4:5 KJV‬ [5] But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

We are saved through faith in Jesus Christ through grace alone, faith is believing that everything that needed to be done for you salvation was fulfilled by Jesus Christ through the cross. Nothing you and I do can save us and if it were so, that would make Christ's crucification meaning less.

‭Revelation 3:3 KJV‬ [3] Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and HOLD FAST, AND REPENT. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

I trust in Jesus and his promise of salvation no matter how badly or how many times I fail him. Not an excuse not to try, but we’re already saved the moment we believe in what he did and the gospel of salvation, and that is the fuel that makes me want to do better.

Man bout time someone else said it

Do one on one debate on this topic

Be careful not to judge... especially when it is by the work of The Holy Spirit... Let God be the Judge...