Nice video keep up the good work Sam

That was a Great video, yeah everyone called out the shifting but they'll have to post their own, looks like in manual transmission option all those cars are competitive, so that's 😎,. The fans want times .round 2 Sam???! Overall great Video very entertaining

He can’t drive every time a car wins in the video he switches over to the winning car lmao

@@yuyuyu9029 Lol so true. Any time its a manual trans race, I always think to myself "whatever car Sam is driving is going to lose". Every statistic can be in his favor and it doesnt matter. 😂

I learned from your grandma like you said

@@SamCarLegion 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ouch 😮

He was shifting pretty slow. Like it or not.

He’s Canadian what do you expect lol

Ong and they're only doing roll races so the stang wont woop em all lmao 😅do it from a dig the supra wouldnt have won

@@302fishin literally, his shifts easily lost him some of those races

The guy in the mustang is Sam 😅

@ravenguevarra6165 Uuumm they did both type roll race and drag, what were you watching lol

@@dub88accbiggest clown on KZfaq

@williebailey91 hahahah I was thinking the exact same thing! Also, the manual mustang really does require the driver to be very experienced with the shifts to get the most out of it. Remember the days when manual was faster? Now days, the new automatics are faster, but just not as engaging or fun when it comes to a drag race.

He always great granny shifts the cars, I love his quality of videos but I literally just ask he drives the car harder

He shifts fine, you guys can't take an L from the mustang community, always the driver mod needed, yet you can't drive any better.

@@yeetimusputimus1985 ive put down 2/3 of these cars already in my stock mt82 23. And have video to prove it. I just havnt seen a Z in person or else it would be 3. If you would like the videos ill gladly send them

​@yeetimusputimus1985 homie he was absolutely taking naps between a lot of those shifts

bullshit, kid I smack the fuck out of some gears. The front end of the car should NOT drop between shifts. you hold the gas pedal to the floor and smack that bitch like it owes you money. straight up 100% no bullshit the front end of my mustangs never dropped when racing them.

Shift at 6 thousand rpms lol the coyote needs to rev....

I agree 100%

@@joddaley6510 also shortshorts 2nd to 3rd.

One would think after all this time Sam would realize he can't drive a manual with any kind of urgency with his shifts. Sam, if the cars are manuals, let other people drive until after all these years you finally go take a couple racing courses and learn how to shift fast.

He needs to redl8ne that thing. it's a v8

The worst I've seen in a long time.

Mustang 2024 succs

😅😅😅

Mustang lost

@@Flamemog you think anyone didn’t notice that genius? Let’s see you shift quicker than him.

Yeah dude drives like he's driving an 18wheeler

😂😂😂 you are a fool for that one.....

It's a mustang, it would've still lost.

@@hpickettz34right….its not like the 10r80 absolutely gaps all alike competitors. Let’s disregard facts 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@jaybo9044 and the supra zf8 would whoop all of them

@@hpickettz34 this supra was the 6 speed not ZF

Watching the Mustang slow and drop back after each shift tells me the driver wasn't rowing the gears but dropping RPMs before each shift. My point would be proven if they used a timing device like a Dragy.

This

Fr!

Auto vs Auto removes the driver comparison but introduces transmission comparison. Some amount of variation in the results is inevitable

@@cosmic_gate476 some amount, but it’s minuscule compared to the variation of manuals. Also the transmission is very much a part in the cars performance so that’s less of a variation and more of just another aspect of comparing speed in these vehicles.

@@clayh2643 It’s definitely enough to add a few tenths to the 0-60. Ppl asking for swap to auto are those who drive auto, using granny shifting as an excuse (yes the shifting is bad)

B/c the Supra would have won and then all angry muscle car guys would have invaded Canada.

Don't you mean the BMW won?😂

I guess losing by 3 car lengths is winning if you're an import fanboy.

My thaughts exactly if i had been given a new supra i wouldve scrapped that bmw motor for a 96 supra motor ​@freedomfirst5420

@@BrianBeckman probably because he said america vs america........ The supra and Camaro are both 12.2 from the go so thats that

Not quite 386 to the wheels but definitely more than 386 bhp, I saw a stock one get dynoed at around 360ish to the wheels

He has tremec and no lift shift. No matter how fast i go he has shorter throws, hence why he is faster. But hey, you don’t know this stuff so leave it the pros. :)

@@SamCarLegion I guess these are the little details people want to know before races. Go in details & be specific since they’re all manuals

@@SamCarLegion honda has the best manual transmission. with any manual civic, you can do power shift. longer throws or not, I'm as fast as an automatic with these cars because you can power shift really quick and the synchro let u do that. I had a wrx, and I could not do power shift like in civcs because subi trans is shiet the synch won't not let me do it too fast... most cars are shiet manual trans. and this stang has a shiet one, better to get an automatic in this case. I have a bmw G42 now and it's automatic and I prefer that to a bad manual transmission that you can't do fast powershit.

@@SamCarLegion the GT has no lift shift too.

@@SamCarLegionno dude, you need to work on your shifting… like, bad.

Someone that actually understands mustangs. 👏👏. They are stupid long throws

I've had two versions of the MT82 now and the throws aren't (in my opinion) the problem. It's the gear spacing on the current "D4" version that really holds it back. The 2015-2017 version of the gearbox with this 486 hp version of the Coyote would likely have edged out the Camaro in the quarter mile.

Well, it’s a mt-82 D4 so SUPPOSED to be more reliable

@@mikeyfourbarrel8473well said., the 15-17 gear ratios are the best out of any mt82

Look. The MT82 isn't the best, but that's no excuse for shifts this slow. This isn't Sam's car so I get the caution, but if you're willing to beat on the car a bit you can shift extremely quickly. You should be snatching into the next gear almost as soon as you're pushing the clutch pedal and then stabbing that throttle right after. The only real issues issues are obviously this is going to be harder on the trans but if you're racing you should expect wear and tear, and if traction isn't good this could cause the car to break loose because you're not modulating the throttle very much as all. Pretty much just flooring it. At the fastest the car should damn near sound like an auto car. And I definitely understand Mustangs. Until recently it was my daily for 2 years. Now it's an occasion car.

I have one! Glad I didn’t settle for a mustang or Camaro

Supra would still beat all of them.

@@hpickettz34 not really.

@@hpickettz34 no it wouldn’t 10spd 5.0 gapping supra any day 🥱

@@Unkown323 yes they do.

@@Unkown323 yep, Coyote all day

more like bizarro

That’s called slow shifting. It’s not rocket science lol

@@Limited-uq2yk Yeah, I noticed that as well.

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ not doing the mustang right

@@Limited-uq2yk It was slow shifting but the Mustang would have lost to all three cars regardless. It's slow and overpriced. Total disappointment FORD!

All ss/lt1 since 2016 till now have dyno'd around 400-430whp range(auto on the lower end, manual a little higher)which puts it slightly under rated and puts the crank number to 475-495 crank hp

Also camaros(im sure most other performance cars) are octane sensitive, so even using 91 octane you will not get the full potential(max ignition advance). If available, ive had great luck with sunoco 94 octane.

I would buy a Supra if any. Maybe I will.

🤣🤣🤣

Driver mod….

B58 🔥

Thank you

Correct, it does have a weight problem with the heavy S650 chassis.. but the engine is the best of the bunch by a mile. NA rev's of a coyote are special. Chevy Camaro: 455 BHP / 3760 lbs = 0.121 BHP/lb Toyota Supra: 382 BHP / 3343 lbs = 0.114 BHP/lb Nissan Z: 400 BHP / 3519 lbs = 0.114 BHP/lb Ford Mustang GT: 455 BHP / 3827 lbs = 0.119 BHP/lb

@@twistedneckthe new mustang with active exhaust is 486 HP by the way

​@twistedneck Supra Hp numbers are wrong, those cars have around 440hp to the crank.

his shifting point was off

LoooooL 😂

I’m a Camaro guy through and through but the new mustang s650 is faster on the drag. My 24 s650 10 speed is way faster and gets to 120 way faster than my 2020 10 speed SS

Not the Supra

@@CrYpTiCGoku Odd because my stock 23 SS walks FBO s650 Stangs every weekend.

@@MountainHobbler you’re talking about mods then eh? Wait until you find out mustangs can hold way more boost than Camaros lol

@@MountainHobbleryou mean the S650’s that CANT be tuned? The bolt ons are barely doing anything for them. As someone who owns a S550 and a C7 I call BS about walking them every wknd.

Nooo waaay. I also have the mt82 6mt Mustang and I shift mile faster than this guy 😅

I appreciate that!👏👏👏

maybe switching drivers would be cool also.

Soon

@@SamCarLegion Can't wait!🔥🔥 🔥

I am having some issues with the Racebox hence why

@@SamCarLegion I take it you are using two units? You should post time of one. Viewers can then estimate the other car's time based on race outcome. If you only have one, then you should get two. So times are captured on the same races.

@@jamesmin2837 why post one if the other one doesn’t work?

@@SamCarLegion That's like saying why race at all, if you have no times.. The times don't determine outcome of the race tests. All it does is validate the quality of the runs. This is especially important with cars that are Manual Transmission and RWD, both that are prone to driver error. If you were running low-mid 12s with the Camaro Mustang and Supra, it shows that all cars were driven well and outcome is good. If you ran 13s, then there's tons of driver error and outcome isn't that "valid".

@@jamesmin2837 these races are enjoyable, regardless. If you don’t like them, you don’t have to watch them.

You stated the obvious we all know that and nobody buys a manual over a auto cuz they think its faster . Yall really Yap just to Yap

@@Jmarzx talk about yapping lol you are the one responding. No asked you too🤣 you must not be around the car scene, “aww it’s not a manual” is something you always hear especially driving a v8.

No lift shift 🙏🏼😍

Yeah, his conclusion has me confused. The Mustang lost against the Supra in both races but somehow he says he's impressed by the Mustang. Like, what?

Hard to reach any conclusions from this video to be fair. Bogged launches every time and slow 1-2 shifts. The Camaro, Mustang and Supra manuals all run around ~12.5 in the 1/4 while the Z is around 13.0. I suspect most of the times in this video are low to mid 13.

Mustang is trash.... they only fast boosted

Wish they were all autos first time I seen a mustang lose to a supra and a z always back n forth with the Camaro though

@@jmb1998 That's weird. I've always seen the Supra come out on top.

Supra vs Camaro done in another video