Samson 33" Chrome Fishtail Exhaust Install on 2021 Harley Davidson Heritage Classic

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Lenny K

Lenny K

3 жыл бұрын

Detailed unboxing and install video of Samson Cholos 33" Chrome Fishtail Exhaust System on my 2021 Harley Davidson Heritage Classic.
Update: Guys at Samson were super helpful and quickly resolved the right side saddlebag bracket issue. They shipped me couple of brackets for good measure :)

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@kiwimek
@kiwimek 3 жыл бұрын
Bike looks great! Love the look and the sound!
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!
@bradlozano2571
@bradlozano2571 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK I love your Gangster Low Rider look of your Heritage Classic👍😎
@jamesemond7290
@jamesemond7290 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful! And the sound is perfect! Love it.
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rarebreed9208
@rarebreed9208 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the 3rd set of fish sticks on my '72 FLH I bought back in 1980. Nothing ever looked or sounded as good as they do. Nice bike.👍
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! They definitely complete the look and sound great.
@gunner9010
@gunner9010 2 жыл бұрын
All chrome!! Very nice!
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mcscotty325
@mcscotty325 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! That color on that bike is so nice. This bike is crying for chrome lower fork sliders. Do it, bro!
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I’ve been looking for them for the 2021 models but can’t seem to find them yet. I will keep looking 😀👍🏻
@michaelgray8766
@michaelgray8766 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the heritage could look like that!
@tamasjoelle6568
@tamasjoelle6568 Жыл бұрын
Nagyon szeretem a videóidat, nagyon ügyes vagy. Gratulálok Magyarországról. Csak így tovább.
@JoseSanchez-un5xo
@JoseSanchez-un5xo 2 жыл бұрын
Your My Hero lol 21 Heritage is my first bike and I’m learning from you Boss, Thankyou! Lol
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Thank you :) Enjoy your bike and stay safe!
@bradleyyounger8499
@bradleyyounger8499 Жыл бұрын
I think Samson makes some of the best quality exhaust.. and in my opinion sound amazing. I had a set of street sweepers years ago and I'm hoping to put on some fishtails soon on my evo heritage
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
Yes they do. Exhaust sounds fantastic..
@openureyes
@openureyes 5 ай бұрын
Sounds great
@FLHCSfan68
@FLHCSfan68 Жыл бұрын
Sounds and Looks Sweet
@jamesrobert2842
@jamesrobert2842 3 жыл бұрын
Love it brotha!
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rywa5788
@rywa5788 2 жыл бұрын
I actually went into the dealership looking for a deluxe and went home with a heritage after finding out it was discontinued. I never knew how much I would appreciate bags and a windshield until I tried it . 😆 No regrets at all.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. I had a Street Bob and wasn't planning to upgrade, until I saw this on the dealership floor 😃
@12babyapes59
@12babyapes59 Жыл бұрын
No tuner required?
@KaitlinMMorales
@KaitlinMMorales 2 жыл бұрын
I just switched from my 883 to my 21 heritage 107. Sound familiar!? I have watched several of your videos and we definitely have the same style so thank you for your how to on your Heritage! :D I have the crimson and pearl.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Glad my videos were helpful. Crimson abs pearl is a beautiful color. Good luck with your bike and ride safe!
@12babyapes59
@12babyapes59 Жыл бұрын
😂1200 sporty to 114 FLHCS blacked out, feels like I am sitting on a lazy boy😅
@ThePNWRiderWA
@ThePNWRiderWA 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good look. I realize 2-2 will give up some power and idea if it’s very much. I do like the low end grunt
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
2-1 will definitely net more power. I had Two Brothers 2-1 on my Street Bob and it was a great fit for it. But for Heritage, true duals just gives me that old school look I was going for. I am ok with loosing a little power 😀
@overlandhunter1181
@overlandhunter1181 2 жыл бұрын
Looks bad ass.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lenny, After the Samson true duals were installed and the right side bracket issue was resolved, the saddlebags can be properly re-installed. Need saddlebags when riding two-up. ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Saddle bags are back on the bike! 👍🏻
@romeyrome3219
@romeyrome3219 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good and sounds amazing
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@romeyrome3219
@romeyrome3219 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK I'm about to order the same size you got but it's asking 1 7/8 or 2 1/2 what did you go with
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@romeyrome3219 what are you referring to?
@romeyrome3219
@romeyrome3219 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK You're exhaust you went with 33 length but what's the with diameter. on the website it gives me two options to pick from 1 7/8 & 2 1/2....
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@romeyrome3219 Not sure where you see this but Samson does not mention anything about it. Here is the link: samsonusa.com/shop/new-m8-true-duals-for-softail-33-chrome/
@donspiteri6814
@donspiteri6814 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video again mate. I see you have the screaming eagle HD Leeds did you take the tank of. Would like to see a video of that, like to keep you busy lol thanks Don
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Actually all the lights are stock. Haven’t changed any yet. Now, the headlight and passing lights are LED and come stock from the factory like that. The only non LEDs are turning signals and brake lights.
@timbailey3126
@timbailey3126 Жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful. How far do they stick out past your rear fender? Do you have any side profile pics showing the fender in relation to the end of the pipes?
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 33” are not very long (main reason I got them). They only go about 5 inches past the rear fender.
@lennyboy57
@lennyboy57 2 жыл бұрын
Great video do you have to re map or dyno after? ✌🏼
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. No you don’t have to re-map until the intake is changes. As long as you don’t introduce more air no re-map is needed.
@gambietti
@gambietti 3 жыл бұрын
Coming along nicely! What about a tune now that you installed a full exhaust?
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’ll get a tune once I am ready to replace the intake. Don’t really need it with a stock one.
@gslife1
@gslife1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pipes! I’m still waiting for my pipes to come in. Already been 2 months
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Took me about 10 weeks before they were shipped.
@gslife1
@gslife1 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK Frustrating having to wait so long. I’m sure it was totally worth the wait though
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@gslife1 Definitely worth the wait. Hang in there 👍🏻
@hssanalsadik9106
@hssanalsadik9106 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet looking bike! Are there oxygen sensors on the stock mufflers? Because as far as I know 2021 H-D did some updates
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes still the same 2 sensors one per pipe in the front. You can see it in the video when I change them.
@hssanalsadik9106
@hssanalsadik9106 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK thank you for the prompt reply brother! Unfortunately here in our region H-D updated to 4 sensors which is sucks due to the regulations. We can install those exhaust on the 21 models but the check engine light will be on. Waiting for the after market companies to do something about it
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@hssanalsadik9106 That sucks. Hopefully aftermarket tuners will figure out something soon.
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Very informative video. Question: are the fishtail end caps removable? ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hello again, Another question: are O2 ports pre-drilled for 12mm or 18mm bung?
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyleesawyer5277 I believe they are 18mm but not 100% sure.
@maxomationable
@maxomationable Ай бұрын
Does it fit also on a FLSB?
@donaldduck2405
@donaldduck2405 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.....!
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Mohammad-wd7tm
@Mohammad-wd7tm 2 жыл бұрын
👌
@The_Puddle_Pirate
@The_Puddle_Pirate 2 жыл бұрын
Did the left side have movement after tightening up? Mine kinda moves from side to side. It’s not as sturdy as the right side.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there is a little bit more movement on the left side vs. right side because of the bracket placement and thickness. Also, make sure your cross pipe clamp is nice and tight.
@shadowrayray
@shadowrayray Жыл бұрын
Without the fishtails on the bike can you tell me where the pipes would end ? Would they be aligned with the rear fender if removed?
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
It ends in the middle of the fender.
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hello again, Sorry about the near duplicate message. My question is: the saddlebags can be re-installed? Correct? ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. 👍🏻
@johnrafferty5407
@johnrafferty5407 7 ай бұрын
How did you get the right saddlebag re-installed? Did you just use the bracket from left side?
@LennyK
@LennyK 7 ай бұрын
I got in touch with Samson and they sent me the missing brackets (eventually).
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Just curious what fuel management system you are using. Great video. ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I am not using any. Don’t really need to tune anything until I change the air intake.
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK Hello, Thanks again. The cycle runs and sounds OK without a fuel management upgrade? This is my first H-D with fuel injection. Previous cycles were carbureted Evo and TC 88. When I do upgrade to Samson fishtails, air cleaner will be H-D Scramin' Eagle extreme flow with Zippers Thundermax fuel management. Any opinions will be appreciated. Lots of info out there. ES P. S. A cam upgrade to an S&S cycle 465 gear driven cam will occur in the future.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyleesawyer5277 sounds like you have a great plan for your bike. As to your question, yes the bike runs and sounds great. These bikes do not run lean, so unless you introduce extra airflow, there is no need for a tune. I will be upgrading to Screaming Eagle intake and tuner in the near future.
@jcvc9095
@jcvc9095 Жыл бұрын
What is your new gas consumption after installing the samson exhaust? How many miles a tank?
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I haven't been paying attention to the MPG 😂
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Did you order the pipes directly from Samson, and if so do you have a part number. The part number I found on the web-site is S-670-1. ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kathy. I ordered it through a reseller DCP - Direct Cycle Parts. The part number is S-670-1
@markhomuth4627
@markhomuth4627 7 ай бұрын
After putting Sampsons on several bikes in the past, this time I'm trying Freedom Performance on a 2018 FLHC I just picked up. I'll report later on how they turned out. I noticed in your video, that you did not need to remove the heat exchange cover or loosen it to remove or install head pipe. My instructions tells to do so. Did I miss something on your video, or did you work around it? Thanks
@markhomuth4627
@markhomuth4627 7 ай бұрын
Oh and BTW, I also lowered my bike after watching your video on that! After the pipes, I'm putting on hard bags!
@LennyK
@LennyK 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I was able to work around the heat shields, but they are simple to loosen and remove. Good luck with the Freedom Performance👍
@kurtiskimla2871
@kurtiskimla2871 11 ай бұрын
What size in diameter are these? In the process of ordering and have a 1 7/8 option and a 2 1/4 option
@LennyK
@LennyK 11 ай бұрын
I am not 100% sure about diameter of the pipes, but here is the actual exhaust I got: www.directcycleparts.com/shop/exhaust/full-systems/samson-true-dual-crossunder-m8-headpipes-w-33-cholo-fishtail-slip-ons-for-18-21-softail-chrome/
@Godmaceplus1
@Godmaceplus1 2 жыл бұрын
Sick bike, what seat is that?
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It’s HD reach solo seat. I did a video on it as well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZuDm7WUl5fcdZc.html
@laraguerra1
@laraguerra1 2 жыл бұрын
How much tha package cost?? Got same bike for 3 weeks and don’t like te original mufflers
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Around $700
@Leo-Dk
@Leo-Dk 11 ай бұрын
Wow amazing bike❤... Does that fit on heritage 92 model? What was the price for those fishtails?
@LennyK
@LennyK 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I don’t think so. New Heritages have a different softail frame.
@Leo-Dk
@Leo-Dk 11 ай бұрын
@LennyK Thanks for quick reply..im going to find out wich 1 I can mount on my baby boy 👶. I love that look and sound,its fucking amazing
@LennyK
@LennyK 11 ай бұрын
@@Leo-Dk thank you!
@frankdoomin
@frankdoomin 2 жыл бұрын
Love the look and the sound! Can I some info i going to Order one Thanks
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the link: samsonusa.com/shop/new-m8-true-duals-for-softail-33-chrome/?attribute_set-type=Head+Pipes+and+Mufflers+%28Sold+as+a+set+only%29&attribute_year=2018-2020+Softail+Models
@frankdoomin
@frankdoomin 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK Thanks
@chenwang9232
@chenwang9232 2 жыл бұрын
I like the bike and sound, I just wand install samson fishtail for my 2021 heritage 107 (same as yours), I'm a little worried because some one say samson has cheap quality, especially in the surface plating treatment, I don't know it's true or not, I wish had your opinion. Thanks
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
Samson is the company that started fishtails. They are one of the highest quality exhausts, and that's the main reason I got them. It's been about a year so far and no problems in quality at all.
@chenwang9232
@chenwang9232 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lenny, you've relieved me. I want to install it myself, it's a very interesting thing. Again, do I need to replace the gasket? Thank you so much.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@chenwang9232 ​ It's always a good idea to put in the new gasket where the connection of the downpipes are to the cylinder heads. Mine was basically new when I did it so I did not have to change the gaskets.
@chenwang9232
@chenwang9232 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyK Thanks brother.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@chenwang9232 My pleasure
@TopShotLLC
@TopShotLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Lenny K I have a quick question. I've contacted samson several times and they tell me they don't have an exhaust for the new heritage classic 114 . I have a 21 as well. They told me in emails that the fishtail for 18 and up softails won't work on the heritage due to clearance issues and they are in r&d and expect a release soon. Then I come across your video. I didn't really notice you having clearance issues do you have any idea what they are referring too? Thanks
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
107 and 114 is the same as far as the exhaust goes. They absolutely have it, but they call it 18+ M8 Softail. There is no fitment issues, but you do have to ask them for Bag mounting brackets. Here is the link for exhaust: samsonusa.com/shop/new-m8-true-duals-for-softail-33-chrome/?attribute_set-type=Head+Pipes+and+Mufflers+%28Sold+as+a+set+only%29&attribute_year=2018-2020+Softail+Models
@TopShotLLC
@TopShotLLC 2 жыл бұрын
@Lenny K thanks for the response yeah I took the bags and windshield off day one and will never put em back on. I slammed it with air ride and put carlini bars doing a vicla, all blacked out. I'm going to order this today.. thanks!
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@TopShotLLC no problem. Good luck with the exhaust. They do have a bit of a wait for it but I think it’s worth it 👍🏻
@kathyleesawyer5277
@kathyleesawyer5277 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lenny, Just want to double check something: you mention that the saddlebag mounting right-side bracket needs to be specifically requested? Samson didnt simply forget to add the bracket to your parts packet? I perused the Samson accessories section on the web-site but only found exhaust mounting brackets. Would you happen to have a part number for the saddlebag mounting bracket? Thanks again, ES
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyleesawyer5277 Hi Kathy. According to Samson, they do not automatically ship the specific Heritage brackets for saddlebags. So if oyu are ordering the exhaust for Heritage you have to make sure and let them know to include these (two) brackets. Unfortunately I do not have the part number for them, but if you call or e-mail them, explain exactly what you are looking for. They will know what bracket to send you.
@dillon6847
@dillon6847 3 жыл бұрын
Do these have baffles?
@LennyK
@LennyK 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. They are removable.
@super16g123
@super16g123 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice any power gain or loss with the true duals?
@LennyK
@LennyK Жыл бұрын
I honestly have not. I would not be surprised if there may have been an HP or two loss but I did keep the baffles in to maintain the back pressure to minimize any power loss.
@super16g123
@super16g123 Жыл бұрын
They definitely look good and sound amazing bro. I have a 2018 heritage myself and have been leaning towards fishtails as well. Looking at what's available, I think the Samsons look the best on the new Softail frame. The bassanis sit too low and look odd with the stock bags and guards and the freedom fishtails sit way too wide. That short video you made showing the pipes with the bags convinced me which way to go. Thanks.
@peterbergeris6510
@peterbergeris6510 2 ай бұрын
What's your estimated time for installation?
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 ай бұрын
Couple hours
@peterbergeris6510
@peterbergeris6510 2 ай бұрын
@@LennyK Reason I asked was because I had my dealer install ( I bought the header pipes from Samson n chikla upswept slip ons from Steady custom cycles for my 08 flstn with all the parts for installation. Was told everything is on but the mechanic said it was a bear to install. So the parts dept billed so many hrs n now they may need to adjust for more because of more time which don't know as of today. Originally I was told 2 1/2 hours. I still have baffles to install which I didn't know at the time of purchase, that pipes came without n they will be shipped to dealer next week. Let them drill the hole to install. Should I pay the extra $ it took, if that happens or negotiate.
@LennyK
@LennyK 2 ай бұрын
@@peterbergeris6510 definitely negotiate. They quoted, and should stick to the price/hrs quoted. The install is not very hard at all.
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